【尋味老香港】消失中的蜑家人|Hong Kong其實係蜑家話發音?為何水上人曾經長期被岸上人排斥?
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- Опубліковано 22 сер 2024
- 兩個世紀前,沒有人會想像到這個小漁港會孕育出這樣一個傳奇;也沒有人想到傳承千年的蜑家水上文化,終有一日會淪為一個歷史詞彙。課本上對蜑家人的描述實在少得可憐,但你會有衝動想跳出歷史書,重回這個香港發跡地,做半日蜑家人嗎?
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小弟係離島水上人,今日小弟問過家母(78歲),佢話你播嘅咸水歌係屬於‘死人嘆’(即殯喪歌),歌詞大概係多謝阿媽生我,標出手腳長大養我育我之類。家母話亦有結婚嘆同其他日常嘆。
我哋以前有長輩過身,家母亦會去幫忙去詠’嘆‘,識嘅人應該少得非常。
我自己唔太覺歧視,可能爺爺嫲嫲有做生意關系。到我呢一代最初由離島搬出市區也有,但改變為岸上人口音以後,我就唔太覺得。但好我太太嘅親戚就會有,事關佢哋會覺得香港仔中心比較污糟,因為比較多水上人。
最後關於殯喪,其實某些地區有政府嘅永久墳場,呢方面算係對原居水上人肯定。
多謝你呢個vlog,加油
喊惊!一般80幾歲以上先識囉!
@@pcheung1899 少弟嘅祖母亦有搵過人幫我喊驚,因為小時候身體比正常小朋友差
咩叫肯定? 你唔係"半世人都係做漁民"政府係唔會比你用漁民永遠墳場, 你比錢去D 咩咩漁民合作社(咩人心照啦) 乜人都可以係漁民...
肯佢老母個定啦...
i dont mean to be so off topic but does anybody know of a way to log back into an instagram account?
I somehow forgot the login password. I would appreciate any tips you can give me.
我係80後香港漁民後代,細個住過漁船,父母目前仲有出海捉魚,我識少少水話但首嘆歌唱乜我就聽唔明了~呢個topic真係好有feel~雖然我唔係香港仔人~🤣🤣
大澳人90後,由細到大都係大澳讀書長大,習慣左大澳話即係蜑家話,到大個出去讀書生活,有次就黎落雨行雷,自己爆左句打石胡,同學完全唔知係乜,好尷尬😅不過我好proud of 自己係蜑家人後代,好多謝你願意了解,仲出埋片
雖然我嫲嫲爺爺就係水上人,條片講既好多我都唔知😂😂
關於水上人女人既地位可能我嫲嫲比較強勢,調返轉頭我哋大家都驚佢Haha
一直都覺得爺爺嫲嫲各種魚都知真係好厲害,明明字都唔係太識。
戶籍呢個令我覺得驚訝,我太嫲太爺好似無呢個問題,佢哋安葬於某水上人墳場(每年都要“車”船過去)
我哋屋企當年亦都排到公屋。
細細個都有同嫲嫲爺爺“車”船,最鐘意捉到蟹,嫲嫲綁完繩,搞佢“同佢玩”😂有水警經過會好驚 次次都好大浪~
聽過家姐會係頂層放風箏,我就未試過😂
我自己細個係艇都要綁繩,唔係精神病院嗰種,唔係太識形容
葫蘆....在此懷念一下只見過相嘅伯伯,嫲嫲爺爺一直有提起你。
前幾年換過一次艇,本身隻艇已經好多年,有職員聯絡過吖嫲可否提供參觀 可惜出咗少少問題 最後都冇。
今年嫲嫲爺爺亦都決定賣艇賣牌照,下年就要交船。
想不到以前非常極之嫌棄又熱又焗又多蚊既地方,依家居然會唔捨得.....。
遲啲應該都冇乜機會再去西貢(姓鄭,或者可能睇緊呢個留言嘅你係我親戚😂
(題外話幾年前被訪問既妹姐,以前經常坐佢搖舢舨,聽嫲嫲講都唔做啦,隻船比政府定唔知咩用萬幾蚊買咗,遲啲好似會喺挪亞方舟展出~)
非常多謝你拍呢條片:)
睇完呢條片隨便寫,文筆唔好😂唔好介意:)
多謝你嘅分享 感受到好真誠
非常欣賞你每一條片 可以見到你是用心 和花時間去制作。多謝你介紹咁多我從來未試過 聽過 見過的地方。 🙏🙏
讀書時有同學係蜑家人,亦上過佢屋企條船玩,但係從來未深入了解過蜑家人嘅歷史。轉眼半過世紀過去,緬懷香港,多謝阿俊🙏結尾音樂令人無限感慨!
水佬話:
呔椅=釣魚
嚟嚌=好少
開生=出發補魚
有無樹呀=有無事呀
氣佳'=去街
姑肉-地布
脊蒙-織網
Full水-落完雨上舢舨清積水
太卜=太婆,阿馬=阿嫲
大No面、細No面=左面、右面
吖賣呀=奇怪
仲有幾乎每個漁民返學都會俾老師鬧講粗口,
只因佢地講左句。整能晒張枱
能=污嘈
yo晒=好嘈
食飯叫hack飯
瞇晒=就滿瀉 / 打石湖=就嚟打風 / 膠kok=發泡膠箱 / 埋街食井水=上岸 / 床會讀成牆 / 浮撚甩=形容男仔好輕浮 / 好Lao=形容女仔好姣
@@claudiaau6261 我識嗰啲水上人叫 食野飯 就係食飯嘅意思
開薪,唔系開生
我家族是水上人,小孩時候已住在公屋,記得孩提時代常常被鄰居排擠,歧視,常常因所碎小事跟鄰居爭執,後來年長了才發現,街坊鄰居們認為我們水上人衛生文化低下,後來回想也真是,孩童時代我們是沒鞋穿的,一整天赤腳通處跑,四圍遊玩,還有水上人是習慣坐在地上開飯的,家裏衛生條件甚差,老鼠曱甴通屋走,街坊鄰居門其實見到我家人便怕怕,後來年長了再留意其他水上人的生活習慣和境況,發覺跟我家的習慣也相近似,我想這也是人們普遍對水上人的觀感就是這樣的🤔
The same with me... and I am one of these "smelly village people's daughters"... Who the hell are these people who say this kind of BS and rude things ? You can kind of blame the British government for not extending the qualifying aspect of identity and control. Cos they lost identity issues from day one...
我地住艇住得好干净、那个木板都非常光滑的!因为用水太方便了……
先生你好
我係50後大澳漁民後代子女又大個咗嚟香港仔居住我識聽那姐姐盼的歌詞幾句佢話第一句係阿媽…這首歌是阿媽過了身
這首歌好少唱嘅因為係唔吉利用
又搶第二😆
近排睇咗唔少片,貴台質素實在好太多了💪🏻
二十歲出頭依家仲翻緊學嘅人表示細個完全冇聽過蜑家人呢個term... 真係好多嘢都式微緊T_T 莫講話以後嘅小朋友仲知得幾多歷史,又或者佢哋以後讀嘅又到底係唔係真正嘅歷史...... anyway真心又學咗好多嘢 多謝你哋!
Because they were not taught who these people were.. That is why. So many people, seems to be, in a way, rewriting history. Erasing history, more like ! It is a "slang" to call these people "water people"... but given the context of those times... They were just maybe another migrant, or they were legitimate... but never had true registration in HK. So you can thank the British government for their handy work as well. This is why people now fight tooth and nails.... "Tanka" or "Water people"... It is odd also that, their boats.. or the educated, never gentrified them or helped them to gentrify their boats either... This would not happen in Europe. Ever. You just do not close or kill off the culture altogether.
Liked! Thx 阿俊~
呢集同大台D專題節目冇分別,正!
最正係...冇旁白,就咁影住問船家流叔要可樂而俾碧泉...
一開頭就睇左個UA-cam既官方廣告😁😁恭喜你有得上Fan Fest👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻實力有目共睹!我Instagram投左票,支持你最後既決定!你頻道絕對有能力比旅遊局更好咁宣揚到香港文化😊😊
唔好話你一個30歲左右既候生仔,我大你咁多我都唔熟蜑家人既歷史!你講多D故事,一個鐘一集我都睇!
你搵既鹹水歌,聽落有少少似閩南話,我都係一句都聽唔明😅但覺得語調好悲涼😭原來蜑家女人咁慘
阿俊好有潛質做播音員、聲音清脆悅耳🤩
但廣東話咬字未係好準
airineee 偶爾都有啲懶音🤪
。。。之前佢係港台節目做過!!
tan ching mr.cheng no wonder
Syl Tsang 我聽似係潮汕/閩南口音
身為水上人後代
水上人最唔認同d人稱呼佢哋做蜑家人😂
講嘅系水話唔系蜑家話
食嘅野往往係簡單清蒸、白烚而唔系濃味嘅椒鹽、避風塘炒
水上歌(嘆歌),多數新界水上人大姐例如大埔,塔門等水上人喜慶或者白事會嘆下歌
二三十年前本港漁業最為輝煌,出海遠南至南中國海,東至台灣外海,北至南韓
只可惜一切已成過去,內地過份破壞式捕撈
魚場生態被破壞
夕陽行業,青黃不接。老一輩想傳承後生一代都唔想落船
本港漁業快成追憶
你d片真係好正,多謝你咁用心介紹香港文化
Thank you for your efforts and sharing this video. Very informative and a culture that the younger generation of Hong should know about. Keep up your good work!
真係難相信你係一個90後!我都想知仲有冇年輕人對香港歴史有求知欲?香港是如何由港英及香港人,百多年來慢慢建立而成的。往昔文化、粵語片、舊建築等等。
流叔成件衫濕嗮,呢份堅持真係唔容易。只係可樂點解會變咗檸茶唧?
I was in one of the tour boat a while back. Thank you for bringing Good memory to our original fishermen culture and history.
非常用心的製作
呢幾日都忙於做中秋節d野無上網睇俊哥d片,咁啱今日因利乘便去咗一轉西沙,讓我知道有一間隱世法國餐廳,叫" One-ThirtyOne ",唔知俊哥之前有無去試過呢!?在此祝俊哥多多中秋節快樂!
俊哥😀人品非常好👍有口德🙂如果係我😎就會直接話碗粉非常難食🤣
我鐘意睇香港舊時嘅嘢👍👍👍😀
好欣賞你對香港文化求知的熱誠,獲益良多☺️真心feel 到你好鍾意香港😊😊
90 後, 我應該係蜑家人嘅後人。 我嘅 爺爺聽講係水上人, 打杖時就帶住10個小朋友走佬黎香港, 5個大嘅小朋友走失左, 5個細嘅跟住爺爺同嫲嫲跑黎香港。 係香港落腳, 以捕魚為生, 亦生活係船上。 直到我爸爸個代都仲係以海業為生, 但唔係捕魚。 我依一代 從來未試過海上生活。 亦做住一般人嘅陸上生活。 亦唔識聽蜑家話。 有興趣聽多啲香港嘅歷史。
我现在每天拍照香港民众的日常生活,让大陆了解香港的秩序、踏实、幸福,真希望帮助你的节目传递到里面
我也曾經有幸地參觀過水上人的艇户,真糸大開眼界~Thank you 俊 for the video and all detail information.
感謝你的精心製作,令我可回味和更了解我的成長之地!
有種感覺,睇你嘅片,拍攝得好靚,介紹得好清楚,好有生動,睇咗好似去咗咁,好想親身去一次,👍
又系地道香港文化,必须顶👍
Thanks for your sharing. It is very educated and enjoyable!
睇得出你用心製作感覺到你越早越好你進步好多
好正!又學到野❤
俊,抵你多粉絲,加油👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻
Great video about HK history. that dialect sound a little like toishanese . Can't wait for HK to reopen for tourism
呢集让我涨了知识,香港呢个名喺点样来格,多谢!
好有鄉土味。👍
個艘船係雙拖,要一對咁出海先拖到魚,如果三十年幾年前應該三百萬找返少少都造到,
宜家好多都轉晒做鋼船,大約一千萬一隻,又係要一對先可以開工。
咸水歌係無乜漁民知歌詞,佢地全部都係靠口耳相傳咁一代傳一代,平時好少會唱,要到嫁女先會唱。
以前啲住家艇無咁大隻嫁,呢隻係當時算係豪宅了。
粉艇啲野食其實唔係特別好食,只係漁民唔想專登坐船上岸食野時先會幫襯。
曾經有個事實 印尼車返香港 唔記訂米 全程食老鼠班食到嘔
多謝你記錄香港。作為蜑家人後代好多野都係父母聽返黎。好多人都忘記香港係漁港,忘記左呢班原居民。聽呀爸講佢細個拜祖先即係我太太太太公係去大嶼山山上,但好多都搵唔返。
我祝俊哥同多多中秋節快樂🥮🌕
love your video!!! 不如出一下你們的獨家產品,例如TEE,筆袋
支持出週邊
Quality production! THanks
已移民加國滿地可,正是舊石排灣人,帶給我很好回憶;比大台找個美女主持,說廣東話也不清楚好很多。
最大收獲是知道了「香港」『名諱』之出處和源由!
尾曲很有味道,配合主題
原来石排湾即是香港仔,多謝解釋。我住在石排湾,到现在才知道。
哩條片拍得好好呀 !! 正
很有教育意义👍
👍👍👍多謝介紹
吾錯吾錯,好介紹,長知識
Really enjoyed this. Thank you.
咁多部機影一段片,淨係呢份心機已經要比like🖐🏾☝🏾👍🏾
介紹得好好
正呀, Thanks
好重意聽你的講解!👍✌️😀
又上一課, THX
一個好有質素 好有知識嘅影片 如果再長啲就好啦
我屋企都係水上人後代()油麻地避風塘,70年屋企上左岸,d歌我淋我過世啊媽識唱,係真係幾悲情的。
但我覺得水上人好多讀得書小,但其實幾聰明的,所謂仁者樂山智者樂水,2000年左右我有個同事仍然做水上人,佢(女)都坦白但甘後期其實佢地好多都係幚緊d走私客做睇水。
水上人無甘強地域意識,船就係家,祖上住過廣州,澳門,香港。。等地。
水上人因為一出海就吉凶未蔔,而且一沉隻船就差不多破産,所以佢地真係好好感情,水上人覺得比街上人欺負,學歷低,但佢地既感情真係好深好深。。
Awesome Video, very informative and interesting! Keep up your good work!
谢谢你让我了解更多香港文化
好想知香港以前既歷史,龍舟既故事。多謝分享😊😊
香港歷史何止蜑家吖,追本塑原,以香港街名就搵到唔少蛛絲馬蹟,新填地街、染布房街、通菜、界限、扯旗山等,
華洋集處,呢啲都有一段段源遠流長嘅故事,交集堆疊成惜日嘅東方之珠,可惜😔
Good Job 👍
喜歡你啲文化片,支持
Thank you very much.
照片拍的好美!是什么相机拍的呢
我係,不過我媽媽結婚就埋街食井水,你講到葬地,香港仔田灣魚民一般都會葬係一個叫鹿洲既島仔,近南丫島附近,成個山頭都係墓地,唔小心就踩地吉窿你就瞓直。
仲有我瞓過幾次船上,其實夜晚係四圍搖,你會唔習慣個頭腦d血四圍流咁,所以唔係一般人適合瞓既地方。
好棒的影片
我住咗大街廿幾年
都無試過租隻船仔出去
1960s~70s年代計劃過填平香港仔同鴨脷洲中間,技術問題無做到,如果填左呢個文化應該留唔到
這套片滿分是100分的話
我會給101 分
人類學的教材
Can share the tour link pls? Interested to join! Thanks
傳統水上人.
大咾便
細咾便
櫓
櫓池
鈎高
食個粉好似食神 那炸面XDDD
恭喜出席Fanfest 出名啦阿俊 😂
Dear Mr LEE. Thanks for the GREAT Video. Some Non-Chinese friends would like to understand more... Is it possible to add ENGLISH sub-title for this video? Thanks.
These people just did not manage to get onto the shores... They are also regional Cantonese, or provincial citizens or something like that. Because whenever you move to another area, officially, you are a migrant. But unofficially... the locals would name you, or give you a pet name. These people have been known colloqually as "water people" or "Tanka" people.... I think they have misrepresented the words for "Tanka" in Chinese. Deliberate or not ? I do not know. But they do have hukuo.. and they ARE.. and SHOULD be also registered. People have to remember that, when the hukuo system came in, not everybody was registered... This is also another issue and fault of the governments and governing bodies. This is also why my mother always buy these dried seafood items... even if it costs a lot of money... So that, their families could survive.... Imagine if they have no amenities and have no bank accounts, and is not even gentrified or acknowledged and dignified by the various local governments....
I do not like HK all this much any more.. People have changed, and they are or have become assholes...
好好睇呀!
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蜑家菜超好吃,推薦大家去金東大,我的飯堂
我父母都是漁民,D水話好正
抱歉,本人認為錯處甚多,未了解香港漁民包含咗幾多藉貫就統稱為蜑家,似乎太表面,我自己係漁民子弟但藉貫寶安。
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香港很多海陸豐渔民。
我公公在世時候,最唔鍾意人地叫佢做蜑家人,佢話水上人就水上人啦⋯⋯
Because it is very rude... In Cantonese, it is called "水上人".... but "蜑家人".. is more like, from those villagers or older families in HK.. way way way before the British ballooned HK.... It is more like their own weitou language which allow some people to be called that. It means something, but the modern cantonese version is not correct... This is what happens when languages, people, and everything is not documented properly.. chaos often happens.. Always happens...
對丫,多數都系話自己係水上人
Any ‘educated’ person calls someone a 蜑家人 is a racist.
歡迎各位稱呼我地係水佬,但唔好叫我地做蜑家,因為我地唔係淨係識搖櫓嘅蟲。
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Hongkong的确好似系蛋家发音
係呀,水面人講「香」字會讀「康」音
香港同外国人都會排斥自己不同类型的人。不同往法,不同口味,不同类型人,這是幾千年的人類文化。
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你原來錶友嚟㗎喎,AP , GO
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無睇你一排,發覺你咬字好左,叻仔,精益求精
其实广东沿海都有好多水上人家,特别是潮汕地区。
潮汕嗰邊同珠三角的不是同一群;珠三角水上人的語言高度一致
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懐舊是自我高尚。如果打魚那麽好,水上人都唔駛上岸。
應該是水上人去参觀你屋企。
其實無水上人叫自己蜑家,好唔尊重人
蜑家人,我諗你要,追數到,民國當政年代!
蜑家人稱號係叫大家人
之前你说 你老婆在珍宝打工的时候 有灵异故事。。求故事 :):):):)
鹹水歌連水上人都未必聽得明,何況其它人