We The People: Science in India - Blinded by faith?

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  • @madhum7100
    @madhum7100 6 місяців тому +2

    The truth is, India isn't the exporter of technology to the rest of the world & this explains what kind of quality of research that we're producing. We export millions of graduates overseas.

  • @amitkolhe4155
    @amitkolhe4155 2 роки тому +7

    Full marks to Science ... Negative marks to Religion !

  • @KBSINN
    @KBSINN 3 роки тому +26

    over-exaggeration of the past only makes a civilization redundant to advance further every civilization must ensure in the development of advanced technology for that investing in scientific R and D.

  • @satyamkumar8853
    @satyamkumar8853 7 років тому +29

    Science is not politics ... In India top Institute like IIT they are just making best labour of this world ... Never thought about Nobel price or R&D

    • @premprasad3511
      @premprasad3511 6 років тому +5

      Satyam Kumar iits are not top scientific institutions as they were created primarily to produce quality technical manpower for industry. It is only in the recent years that the iits have become active centeres of research.
      Top research centers in India are iisc, tifr, Bose institute, rri, .... But these institutions, while certainly world class , are not training undergrads. As a result of this very few young people end up being taught by active scientists during their formative years and are therefore are not nurtured from the start..in fact teaching undergrads will have to go hand in hand with research in order to create a true spirit of science at all levels.
      The problem traces back to the early years after Independence when our education and science policy were adopted but never really nurtured. India segregated research and teaching institutions to ensure that the very limited funds could be channeled for the most optimal results. However this policy burdened some institutions with over the top teaching duties with no time for research, and isolating research centers from the mainstream education system of the country..
      This is main reason why the general public are more aware of iits than say a bose institute or the Saha institute !!
      Compare this with science in other countries where research is mainly pursued in universities and undergrads receive their education from done of the best in the field...
      Imagine a Nob laureate or a would be winner of the cherished award teaching a fresh bsc student...
      They are left awe inspired at a young age, and are prodded to tread the path of discovery....

    • @anilkumarsharma1205
      @anilkumarsharma1205 5 років тому

      read my comment so we got Tourism industry award

    • @NileshKumar-zr2jx
      @NileshKumar-zr2jx 4 роки тому +2

      In India there can never be scientific temper

    • @YadvendraSinghRawat
      @YadvendraSinghRawat 4 роки тому +2

      @@premprasad3511 "IITs are not top scientific institutions" ? ... Man choose your words wisely. If technology is written in the name of a institution, that doesn't means research doesn't exist there. I am a Civil Engineer/Geodesist Post Graduate (MTech) from IIT KANPUR and done lot of research and modelling on gravity and Geoid ... Dude if you think that IITs have zero research YOU ARE EXTREMELY WRONG AND MISTAKEN.

    • @premprasad3511
      @premprasad3511 4 роки тому +2

      @@YadvendraSinghRawat I'm as proud of IITs and IITians as you are friend and I'm not insulting the revered Institution of IIT. They certainly have many big accomplishements. I do work closely with several IITs and other scientific Institutions and I'm aware that they are indeed doing a lot of good work. In the recent years - last 10 years or so - there's been a surge of interest in research at IITs certainly. However the focus of IITs traditionally is not on research ! It is to teach high quality engineering. The professors at IITs were never encouraged to pursue research. Only now there's some shift. The research culture and output from IITs is certainly not world class in that sense. You may have done world class work , no doubt , and good that you are doing that . There are many others I know who do brilliant work , but those are isolated pools of excellence , not coherent Institutional efforts that consistently copiously produce high class research output. If you want to continue the argument, list out 5 "ground breaking" discoveries by the IITs in the last ten years ! Can you do that ? I mean really groundbreaking ..like the invention of of laser, transistor, integrated Circuit, a new material like graphene or nanotubes, breakthroughs in leds , quantum computing , space technology, aeronautics ... something like that .. something accomplished for the first time , something with a global impact ...
      Don't just cite number of papers and citations.

  • @anitakumarinayak5353
    @anitakumarinayak5353 3 роки тому +4

    Don't hide the glory of scientific history of India in the shadow of mythology

    • @Pain53924
      @Pain53924 Рік тому

      What does "Scientific History" even mean?

  • @g.reaper7946
    @g.reaper7946 3 роки тому +3

    Future report: it sucks even more today

  • @timepickle8443
    @timepickle8443 5 років тому +7

    6:45 👏👏👏👏👏👏👏

  • @parthabanerjee1234
    @parthabanerjee1234 2 роки тому

    5 years have gone by and we have started doing scientific research on cowdung. Modi's promise to male India a scientific powerhouse has come true.

  • @navi2gaur
    @navi2gaur 7 років тому +40

    Yea some believe earth is flat bcoz their book said so... hahahba

    • @The_Formidable
      @The_Formidable 7 років тому +3

      You meant Vedas?

    • @OnkarShrma
      @OnkarShrma 6 років тому +7

      @@The_Formidable Well vedas were only mythological books who were claiming that earth is not flat.

    • @AshrafAnam
      @AshrafAnam 6 років тому +4

      ​@@OnkarShrma LOL. Do you even read your own scriptures? The Vedas clearly call Earth "bhugola" which means *earth as a flat disc* (which Hindus claim means spherical earth, but it DOESN'T) - one of a stack of seven *concentric discs* surrounded by seven concentric oceans. Further, it compares Dyaus (sky) and Prithvi (earth) to wheels on an axle, *yielding a flat model.* Also the word it uses for Earth's shape is "parimandala" (circular). The Puranas describe the earth as a flat-bottomed circular disc with concentric oceans and continents.

    • @OnkarShrma
      @OnkarShrma 6 років тому +4

      @@AshrafAnam bro are you high on weed. Astrology is studied in India since ages. Read that too. Flat earth believers trying to find s escape path others 😂😂😂😂

    • @AshrafAnam
      @AshrafAnam 6 років тому +10

      @@OnkarShrma Astrology is widely considered a pseudo-science. There is no truth in it. The very existence of "Rahu" and "Ketu" shadow planets creating eclipses renders Hindu astrology as invalid.

  • @AshrafAnam
    @AshrafAnam 6 років тому +17

    The Vedas call Earth "bhugola" which means *earth as a flat disc* (which Hindus claim means spherical earth, but it DOESN'T) - one of a stack of seven *concentric discs* surrounded by seven concentric oceans. Further, it compares Dyaus (sky) and Prithvi (earth) to wheels on an axle, *yielding a flat model.* Also the word it uses for Earth's shape is "parimandala" (circular). The Puranas describe the earth as a flat-bottomed circular disc with concentric oceans and continents.

    • @himanshusingh5565
      @himanshusingh5565 5 років тому +5

      1) Vedas didn't call earth "bhugol" . Bhugol means "Geography" not " Earth" , there is a huze differance .
      "Bhugol" means round Surface . (Idiots think "Gol" means only 2D circle )
      2) Study some mathematics *Solid Concentric Circular Disks* doen't exist . Concentric Circles and Rings do exist .
      *"Disks with same axis"* is more suitable statement for your illogical deduction .
      3) "Prithvi" means something with high velocity and "Prithvi" itself represents *non-stationary" object.
      4) "Parimandala" has many meanings - *"Round" "globe" "circle" "a type of Insect" "Circumfrence" *

    • @AshrafAnam
      @AshrafAnam 5 років тому +1

      @Satyam Singh Yeh Sanskrit hai, Hindi nahin gawar kahika.

    • @AshrafAnam
      @AshrafAnam 5 років тому +1

      @Satyam Singh what????

    • @Neversimp
      @Neversimp 2 роки тому

      @@himanshusingh5565 earth is neither spherical its giod idiot

    • @narutoff08
      @narutoff08 2 роки тому

      @@himanshusingh5565 well said, its because of idiots like these the one commented above that the ancient indian science /wisdom is intentionally being misinterpreted and losing its value

  • @aaashu6592
    @aaashu6592 3 роки тому +11

    Research ki kya zarurat hai boss jo kuch bhi naya developed hoga uska credit hum le lenge 😆😆😆😆 bol denge 5000 saal pehle hum log ke paas yeh tha

  • @gagansharda4505
    @gagansharda4505 6 років тому +4

    The religion which came in the path of progress of science can't Stop for them

  • @comradestalin7694
    @comradestalin7694 7 років тому +33

    What can you expect from this government...when the prime minister says earthquake was caused due to anger of "dharti maa"

  • @ssa6227
    @ssa6227 5 років тому +6

    Purane India ke science ke baat ker ke
    Lynchistan bana diya
    Education ministery 12 fail ko de dee aur Budget kam ker diya
    Wah purane India ke gaane gaoo aur lynching kero
    Ram Rajya aa gaya
    Ya shayad Taliban raj? Na woh toh Muslim hain
    Yeh Ram Rajya hai LOL

    • @aniketkumarsingh3860
      @aniketkumarsingh3860 4 роки тому

      taliban raj me yeh bol nhi paate beta to yeh ram rajya hi hai duniya me sbse pahele hamara hi calendar tha jo sun pe base kr kr banaya gya tha tm logo ka nhi jo chand pe base kr ke banaya gya hai or science is all about discoveries and evolution what is true today may not be tomorow it's about getting bettert and better in the research

    • @nausheensiddiqui8745
      @nausheensiddiqui8745 2 роки тому +1

      @Aniket kumar Singh promote the pseudoscience somewhere else.
      You believe in astrology and I don't so it's not about science it's about pseudoscience and wrong beliefs

    • @ssa6227
      @ssa6227 2 роки тому

      @@aniketkumarsingh3860 By the way moon calendar is more accurate.
      I am not belittling India's achievements.
      But you chaddi gang are.
      India was a secular accepting society. This is why all scientific growth. What you are making has nothing to do with ancient India or Hinduism.
      You people are just pure evil. Creating hate and chaos all over India. Destroying everything good about India.
      Say what you like doesn't matter if India burns.

  • @sujayraomandavilli4732
    @sujayraomandavilli4732 4 роки тому +7

    We need the next generation of Post-Hindutva thought leaders. Period. No more - no less.

  • @dhrbolai
    @dhrbolai 3 роки тому +1

    2022 ane ko hai...

  • @anilkumarsharma1205
    @anilkumarsharma1205 5 років тому +4

    put the genome of sandalwood with sugarcane genome so we got more perfumes now when we found that ashes which gives us fragrance in making utensils cleaning
    this type of experiment shows tourism industry a new wave

  • @mohit92260
    @mohit92260 3 роки тому

    Full video?

  • @jayeshdhaware8726
    @jayeshdhaware8726 7 років тому +1

    upload full video

  • @deveshsingh1233
    @deveshsingh1233 3 роки тому

    Gupta jee of DRDO is the quintessential bania bhakt. Shame on you

  • @dhrbolai
    @dhrbolai 2 роки тому

    2022 aa gaya

  • @sainathpendkar
    @sainathpendkar 3 роки тому

    very good debate

  • @anilkumarsharma1205
    @anilkumarsharma1205 5 років тому +2

    put the genome of sandalwood genome mixing with bamboo tree so we got fragrance in cheaper rate and oxygen too soon oxygen tourism increased rapidly

    • @rajnikanttiwari4156
      @rajnikanttiwari4156 4 роки тому

      Bro these are super educated people as they want to act like or speak English like if you want to talk with these idiots and waste your time. It's our stupidity.True scientists just work they don't cry like leftists.

    • @rajnikanttiwari4156
      @rajnikanttiwari4156 4 роки тому

      Also they don't try to bring RSS or BJP or anything in between any scientific talks.

    • @ex009adityarajsingh2
      @ex009adityarajsingh2 4 роки тому

      @@rajnikanttiwari4156 they are murderers of rational thinking and pseudoscience activist and chutiya vedic scientist they must be stoped for the sake of oneness the sake of future

  • @anilkumarsharma1205
    @anilkumarsharma1205 5 років тому +2

    NDTV walon kuch samajh jao

  • @gmpatra5296
    @gmpatra5296 7 років тому +3

    anand Sharma is a pakka congress man

    • @mrbean2121
      @mrbean2121 7 років тому +5

      Toh Scientific temperament wale log kya tujhe bjp me milenge? Nahi na.

    • @PeterWayne77
      @PeterWayne77 5 років тому +2

      And you are pakka andh bhakt of Jumla Party

  • @inderbadesha7368
    @inderbadesha7368 7 років тому +10

    Excellent discussion

  • @curious9650
    @curious9650 7 років тому +2

    Hum Mars Pe, Chand Pe Ya Kisi Or Planet Pe Nahi Land Kar Sakte.....!!!! Its a Proven Science, Humse Jhoot Bola Jaa Raha Hai, Aeroplanes Helicopter, Banaane Bahut Asaan Hain....!!!!

  • @saddamm.a5773
    @saddamm.a5773 7 років тому +5

    APPRECIATE NDTV FOR PUTTING SUCH IMP DISCUSSION

  • @anilkumarsharma1205
    @anilkumarsharma1205 5 років тому +1

    put the genome of various kinds of spices genome with sabzi genome with oil plants genome so we got ready made materials for cooking in microwave oven, just pickup, cooking it and eat😋😋😋😋😋😋

  • @anilkumarsharma1205
    @anilkumarsharma1205 5 років тому

    spicy fruits aromatically and automatically by mixing genome of sandalwood with sugarcane genome and coconut genome so we got more efficient sorbet automatically in one shot
    just pickup the fruits and cooking in microwave oven so lots of energy saved in making long food cooked recipes

  • @dhirajsrivastava2622
    @dhirajsrivastava2622 4 роки тому +1

    Ndtv itself is most unscientific

    • @akscs373
      @akscs373 2 роки тому

      but this debate is not

  • @yusufashraf8365
    @yusufashraf8365 7 років тому +15

    What a beautiful debat
    Very bad Bjp government

    • @siddharthmehta6220
      @siddharthmehta6220 7 років тому +6

      Agreed. This govt is of morons. Oh btw, creationism is a myth. There was no Adam, Eve, in fact there is no god.
      It's laughable when Muslims speak in favor of science, just as much as when these chaddi-dhaari hindutva gang spurt out their version of vedic "science." Pardon me if my presumption is wrong that you're a Muslim.

    • @siddharthmehta6220
      @siddharthmehta6220 7 років тому +3

      Pankaj, hence why I asked for a premature apology in the case that he's not a practicing Muslim, or at least rejects his religion's bullshit.
      But in my experience, Muslims will just about say anything to show their opposition to BJP. Even speak in favor of science, how ironic right.

    • @saddamm.a5773
      @saddamm.a5773 7 років тому

      Pal, religion something is a personal matter, governance aint

    • @saddamm.a5773
      @saddamm.a5773 7 років тому

      Sidd, and plz dont point saudi, as its non of my business

    • @manojh.p.5097
      @manojh.p.5097 7 років тому

      I felt nice to see Nobel science category prize winners debate science nad scientific thinking and bashing new government

  • @anilkumarsharma1205
    @anilkumarsharma1205 5 років тому

    all the India become fragrance factory if we put the genome of sandalwood with genome of pepal tree or genome of rose and various fast growing plants like keeker trees or babool or bamboos tree or toot tree or various fast growing plants
    we can put the genome of fruits in woody plants so we got fragrance in cheaper and easier form
    if more pollen germination plants genome mixed with sandalwood genome then we got fragrance at very cheap rates
    water hyacinths plus sandalwood genome can change the world wide pollution solution because water hyacinths flooded soon the water and if it becomes fragrance source then average person can use it's ashes for making fragrance in cheaper rate for homes
    this will increase the tourism industry soon😝😋😝😋😝😋😝😋😗😋😗😝😗😝😗😝😗😋😋😝

  • @Education_purpose87
    @Education_purpose87 5 років тому +2

    Science cannot explain human relationships be it with self or others that is where science pause and spiritualism begins and bhagwad gita explains in detail the different human relationships and also self

    • @Education_purpose87
      @Education_purpose87 4 роки тому

      Science can explain ?
      1. The existence of million degree Celsius temperature sun, the air ,the water and the harmony among these super powerful entities ?
      2. The controller of the sun,air and water and their harmony ?
      3. The reason behind life in humans and animals and the difference?
      4. The controller of millions of stars and planets?
      5. The reason of source of energy of sun ?
      6. The reason of existence of emotions?
      7. The reason of existence of laws of nature?

    • @priyankasharma-mi2ke
      @priyankasharma-mi2ke 4 роки тому +5

      @@Education_purpose87
      0. Science can explain how you are typing on a device.
      1. Sun's high temperature is due to high pressure.
      2. No one controls them. They function due to interactions between them and all this can be simulated in computer by physics laws.
      3. Yes, the theory of evolution describes who we are and why we are.
      4. No one controls them. It's not like a remote control.
      5. Fusion of Hydrogen into Helium.
      6. Chemical reactions in brain.
      7. That's what scientific theories are for.

    • @Education_purpose87
      @Education_purpose87 4 роки тому

      Each and everything is controlled otherwise nothing can exist and function.

    • @kap1069
      @kap1069 3 роки тому +1

      @@Education_purpose87 i searched up 'dumb bullshit' and I dunno who i saw this comment. Why?

    • @Education_purpose87
      @Education_purpose87 3 роки тому

      The control over sun and the planetary bodies should exist in harmony for not only humans to survive but the nature because humans and humanity depends on the controlled universe 🙏

  • @Proudofmynation
    @Proudofmynation 6 років тому +3

    Stop privatization of education.

  • @anilkumarsharma1205
    @anilkumarsharma1205 5 років тому +2

    cactus's and banana genome mixing will gives more complex compound which gives us energy
    or cactus plants genome mixed with oil plants genome so we got oils at large scale
    i will provide my knowledge since i am not a true scientist but know that ways which are called top observations
    put the genome of sandalwood with bamboo tree genome mixing will gives detergents and soap industry a boon
    simply we got cheaper fragrance😋😌😋😌😋

  • @anilkumarsharma1205
    @anilkumarsharma1205 5 років тому

    put the genome of chilly and potato genome mixing and oil plants mustard plants seed so we got miswak
    miswak, mustard oil plants, potato
    all three are easily produced at once so we got ready made materials for cooking in microwave oven and eat😋😋😋😋

  • @parthabanerjee1234
    @parthabanerjee1234 2 роки тому

    The former DRDO "scientist" cannot pronounce Einstein and gave a completely false account of Einstein's thesis (it wasn't rejected) and Einstein's thesis was not on Relativity but on molecular dimension. It is a shame that such ignorant people are called scientist in India and they even get to DRDO.

  • @curious9650
    @curious9650 7 років тому +4

    Ye Sab Scientists Hain Ya Gadhe...???? Dono Me Koi Fark To Hai Nahi, Humse Puch Lo Scientific Tempor Kya Hota Hai....!!!!!

  • @mirrormirror6732
    @mirrormirror6732 6 років тому +3

    Indian scientists created this universe.

  • @gmpatra5296
    @gmpatra5296 7 років тому +2

    ndtv anchor seems to be speaking for the congress

  • @premprasad3511
    @premprasad3511 6 років тому +1

    Pythogorous theorem was ceratinly known to Indians and even more than that including calculus, infinite series, number theory, and several aspects of astronomy..
    While we need to separate fact from fiction and fantasy ( the the ones at the science Congress) from science, it is also important that we don't dismiss the real accomplishments of ancient Indians in sciences.
    Scientific accomplishments of Ancient Indians are well researched and acknowledged by much of the mainstream global scientific community. Western scholars like Stephen hawking, Marcus du satuoy, and several others have even referred to these in their works.

    • @ex009adityarajsingh2
      @ex009adityarajsingh2 4 роки тому +1

      🤣🖕

    • @premprasad3511
      @premprasad3511 4 роки тому

      @@ex009adityarajsingh2 👍

    • @ex009adityarajsingh2
      @ex009adityarajsingh2 4 роки тому +1

      @@premprasad3511 sudhar jao in bakchodiyon ko likhna chhod do ye tha wo tha maano ki hum gawar the aur aag badho ulta sidha scientific accomplishment bak ke kuch bhi mat kahob

    • @akscs373
      @akscs373 2 роки тому

      ghanta....calculas r contributed by leibnitz nd newton...sbka credit na le...and 10th century k baad hindu scholar gayab ho gye the...sridhanacharya k baad brahminvaad aa gya and sb bhrast ho chuka tha...history pdh le

    • @akscs373
      @akscs373 2 роки тому

      lol hawking did proper experiments, observed things and also read just some teachings not pali sanskrit science from that...

  • @mr.debunk6970
    @mr.debunk6970 7 років тому +3

    Iss debate meh Science se zada Anti Modi & BJP Rant chal raha hai..Typical NDTV Ghatiya debate. 😩

    • @ex009adityarajsingh2
      @ex009adityarajsingh2 4 роки тому +1

      Gandu nagpur hi ye pseudo science ka bakchodi pelta hai sahi gaand mar raha hai

  • @ninadsen120
    @ninadsen120 5 років тому

    welldone ndtv one more SHOWf useleswS debate

    • @timepickle8443
      @timepickle8443 5 років тому +3

      For morons who think Arnab is a good journalist this will look like a "useless discussion"
      Only thing it "shows off" is Modi supporters are morons.

    • @akscs373
      @akscs373 2 роки тому

      hnn bhakto ko yhi lgega