In 2019 I was in a safe house for trafficking (so obviously religious) and 3 different mlm's came into our home and tried to sign us up. They said they were trying to give us the gift of wealth. Most trafficking victims get 5-25k in a victims fund in the first few months. They actually tried to convince me that giving the mlm all my money was the best decision I could make for my future. I complained to the 'non profit' who ran the safe house. They made me feel unmotivated and lazy for not signing up. They are no longer a non-profit and are being looked at for fraud. Imagine that....
@LiaanaKuolmi Thank you! I have gone to the fundraising events and connected with the people running them and even got to speak on stage once. You should have seen their faces when I walked in. I'm sure they assumed I wouldn't make it like everyone else, but my anger kept me going. They ran up and started hugging me and gave me and my friend a 1,600 table for free at the event when I walked in. Oops it looks like they effed up lol. I actually got to speak to the mayor in a private room and he recorded it. That 'non profit' has lost almost all of it's funding and the fbi no longer uses them as a safe house they just get hotel rooms. 😁
@@gingerlee726 Amazing.💖 So glad they lost funding!! Consequences for such groups can be rare - it's great that you were able to make sure these people actually didn't get away with their crap.
As a native American that shit infuriated me to hear. Our people were hurting, being abused by the authorities there, losing their home having water tainted when water is life and she used it as a photo op and sales situation? Also idk about all tribes but there's many unless you are native and have explicit permission by the owner of said tipi, you are NOT to take photos in front of it, inside of it etc. and never go inside. I'm not surprised but it's infuriating. And to say a white buffalo women showed herself? What in the racism caucasity bullshit is that? The fact that this is only one bit of the fucked of things she's done is terrifying
Forgive my ignorance, but is it traditional to be gifted a name by a tribe as it's an honour? One can't just make up their own. Waltzing around the camp and taking advantage is so disrespectful to me.
I grew up on the border of ND and MN, many of my friend had family at the protests The way she acted makes me sick. These people were fighting against what would be a malicious disaster. And she used it for clout basically
I agree as far as her actions we’re disgusting and reprehensible, but you’re not much better. You casually drop a racial slur against white people as though it’s it’s nothing. I don’t understand why society now thinks their racism is ok but not others’ racism. Congratulations, you are a bigot. I would be in able of using a racial slur because it is against everything I was raised to believe. You are clearly comfortable with it. You are the evil you profess to hate and I am sick of people being proud to be bigots while condemning others as bigots. Don’t be a hypocrite, proudly state that you are a bigot and I’d have more respect for your then cosplaying as moral authority. Pathetic.
I joined late and thought you were using the term mystery school, mystery school, mystery school repeatedly because the schools had no legit credentials or licensing. But nooooo, the effing name of these scams is actually mystery school😂 what in the scooby doo is going on with these people?
If I’m a coward for wearing a mask about a possible death illness for my high risk brother, and super high risk grandma 🤷🏻♀️ I’m okay with that. I would rather be cautious and careful than be the cause of what could happen- and that goes for anything.
Her calling herself a death doula is. Incredibly insulting, to say the least- I'm planning to go into that field and it is NOT something to be taken lightly. You don't talk to the already deceased, you work with those who are still alive but flickering out. You are, ultimately, a lifeline for the family.
Yes. This was my Avocation of 30 years. Hospice Death Duola is a Incredibly Intimate and PRIVATE relationship between family and their Providers. NEVER would I have PRETENDED to channel messages from their ancestors. I AM Twice Born had a NDE on an operating table and then spent 30 years of Service and Learning with Elders and others in Transmutation end stages. It's Abhorrent to Steal from the Dying their Time with their ACTUAL Loved ones and REAL family cannot be replaced. We don't curse living beings in my family. Its awfully tempting when humans like this defile such a Holy Space sigh.
Thank you to everyone who was brave enough to speak out!!! Thank you to all the members who helped make this as well!! She has a little girl. Ugh that’s frightening
It's wild to me when MLM boss babes suggest to use someone complimenting you as a pitch opportunity. Imagine telling someone you like the way they dye thier hair and they go "Thanks, want to know how I can afford it? You could do it too."
Oh God, compliments can be so dangerous, I was working as a cashier and complimented a woman's nails, and she told me it was Color Street. 🤦🏼♀️🤦🏼♀️ She didn't try to recruit me or anything, but I hate that I said anything positive about the product.
To be rather honest, as a (begrudgingly) life-long resident of South Carolina I can speak to how extremely normal all of that is here. Yes, even skinning poor lizards. The fey ain't got shit on people from Kershaw & Union counties. I can assure you of that. 🤣🤣🤣
Sounds to me like a mental break or manic episode. Wild, why would you reassemble bones? What did you do with the meat? It takes a looooong time for a whole animal be rendered to just bones even if you're actively trying to do it on purpose. Why would you do that? Was she selling reassembled coyote carcasses?
Angela made a statement in regards to the Holocaust that is inaccurate. She said and I'm paraphrasing here that Jews were targeted because of their religion. Judaism is an ethno-religion and a (closed) culture that is 4,000 years old. When Jews are targeted it can be because the antisemitism is religious based, ethnic/racial based, or both. The Holocaust targeted Jews due (debunked) race science and eugenics. We were targeted for being ethnically/racially Jewish rather then for being religiously Jewish. Which is why Jews who were not religiously Jewish were still targeted in the Holocaust. This is very important to understand about the Holocaust.
Genuinely curious here, I thought there were also religious reasons mixed in? H*tler was very inspired by Luther, who was very antisemitic, and quoted him in Mein Kampf. From what I understood, he was quite Christian as well and this was a particularly violent vein of Christianity. I always thought there was a mix of both religious and ethnic/racial motivators - the one they used in the narrative depended on who they were taking to and so on. Thank you for sharing your knowledge! I’m interested in hearing more
@@communistsharks6889idk who he thought he was "inspired by" but Hitler was NOT a true Christian or following God's teachings at all whatsoever. Certainly not the teachings of Jesus in the New Testament. He was full of HATE, not LOVE. He also tried to play God by trying to ethnically cleanse a group of people. He did not have the right to end peoples' lives or torture them how he did; he was a monster.
Nope. Every few hundred years, people rebrand hatred of Jews to seem acceptable. In the 1400s, people said “I don’t hate Jews, I just hate their religion.” In the 1900s, people said “I don’t hate Jews, I just hate their inferior genetics.” Also “I don’t hate Jews, I just hate their language.” This is where the word “antisemitic” came from, it was a rebranding of the previous word, which was just “Jew-hatred”. So no, at the time of the holocaust people were actually distancing themselves from the idea that religion motivated their hatred.
as someone who has ehlers danlos, it absolutely blows my mind she was allegedly told to stop taking her meds. eds causes issues in MANY parts of the body and most of the medications we require are life saving/changing. Chose to die? meant to happen? OUR LIVES ARE ALREADY SHORTENED ENOUGH im so sick seeing this
I have to wonder if she’ll watch this. I feel like the narcissism in her won’t allow her not to watch. This was really well done by the way- I love the workaround of people doing voice work to protect the anonymity all those who spoke out! Can’t wait for part 2.
I kinda feel like the narcissist in her wouldn't allow her not to watch it... even tho its basically an 1:12 minutes of CC dumping on her, she has to know what people said about her so she can figure out who said what and trash them if to no one but herself... I think she just has to know if people are still afraid of her, if they're still suffering from what she did to them.. I think she'll watch, but I doubt we will ever know
Lmao this is how I ALWAYS feel when I watch anything on her channel. Or anything about any scammer, MLMer, worst UA-camrs, etc. I’m like “omg this is wild, how have I never heard this? Then omg I’m so glad I’ve never heard of these people” 😂
@@GF-wn2mv Do you mean Sektpodden, have they talked about this woman? Thank you for the tip👍 For those understanding Swedish, I really recommend Sektpodden!
And then to flat earthers. I have a few people on my facecrack list I keep for the spectacle. They went from crunchy mom/hippie shit to ultra woke to faaaar right. Now they are flat earthers. It has been wild watching. Strangely, you get an absolutely hilarious meme here and there 🤣
This! I started to notice it after covid and as a hippie artist witch who lives in the woods, apparently my algorithm was primed for it. Now it's a train wreck I can't look away from. I did some reading up on it because these sets of views are so different; equal parts hyper individualistic points of view meets the guys digging the pipeline to rightwing crazy town. Its unreal. Good example would be kat von d.
I am not really sure it is entirely a "pipleline" per se. As someone who has been involved in pagan "witchy" spaces online for 20 plus years the red flags were always there. Even that snippet of an interview from her witchy phase is just a collection of buzzwords that someone who is actually in those spaces would probably realize makes no sense. It would be like some random trying to convince people they are an evangelical by dropping words like "testimony" and random bible verses even when it makes no sense. These people just latch on to whatever community they think they can find marks in or that they think they can manipulate for whatever their goal is. Kat Von D went through a similar "transformation" on almost the same time frame interestingly. To be fair Kat never claimed to go feral like Sumner.
It’s because irrational thinking allows for irrational ideas. If you allow yourself to believe in one irrational thing, you’re more likely to buy into other irrational things like conspiracy theories and cult leaders being gods. That’s why religious people are such easy targets for mlms and conspiracy theorists, they already believe in irrational ideas. They’re very gullible people in general.
@@virtualgambit577 Hate to break the news to you but just as many atheists join cults and atheist cults exist. Being a Sam Harris fan doesn't magically make you any more "rational". Many so called new atheists are just as irrational and prone to cognitive dissonance as anyone else.
Love how she kept saying that Covid wasn’t real but just said this morning that she has been dealing with Covid the last few weeks and was struggling. 😒
For real? I came to know of her during Covid when she said that it was the worst crime against humanity, worse than the H0locaust, admitted to assaulting children wearing masks, and then when she got into her “wild birth” phase shaming women who have hospital births, consider birth a medical procedure, and that we should all be consuming raw liver and raw milk.
This is different than a lot of your other content. I can tell you put a ton of extra work into creating this, and while I've heard this story before, new details have come to light in this video. It is obviously a testament to the time put in to interviewing and searching for primary sources. You should really be proud of the work you've done here. I love the other content too of course, I just wanted to say this was an excellent video. Thanks, I really needed a distraction from the nightmare that is inorganic chemistry homework
Thank you. Truly thank you. I've genuinely learnt so much from you. I'm really grateful i discovered you're channel. I resonate on another level with the stuff you're sharing. I'm high functioning autistic, your presentations make sense to me💚😊🏆
OMG!! This was amazing reporting! Thank you!! Hanging on every word, compelling! Waiting for updates!! And as more people come forward. Because they will!!! Wow!!!
Honey, no one in their right mind would claim that one. I am right there with you. As I was listening I kept saying to myself: “what.. that’s not what they believe? What are you going on about?” And then I thought about it. She wouldn’t *dare* use that spiel on those who know these things since they would know she was lying. Also probably why she would change her story so often. Without a doubt, she’d run into someone well versed in one field of mystism and would have to change it in the hopes that they wouldn’t know.
She’s evil!! I can’t believe she said Sheree “chose” to die. The delusional behavior paired with narcissism is disturbing. I also have EDS and this stresses me out. Mine is not as severe as Sheree’s sounded but yike this whole situation is yucky
Oh my! I thought she just did monat. Not all the other things. I was enthralled with this part one that I did laundry, the dishes, and vacuumed. Apparently I need Chelsea's deep dives to be productive! 😂
The 666th like on the Monat Witch video feels like a good luck omen for the day 😂 Chelsea, I’m LOVING these intense deep dives, your content just keeps getting better and better. (And Ethan is also doing amazing with these! That’s a LOT of clips to source and sort)
You should go! They're amazing! There are certain times of the year you can see the Orcas passing through. Highly recommend kayaking around the islands. Seals will swim right up to your yak.
Worth the wait; looking forward to part 2. Kudos to the members who helped with their voiceover skills. Also, your script reading is definitely getting smoother, Chelsea. Good job all around!
They didn’t put Amy Carlson in a closet. They wrapped her in Christmas lights, blankets.. they also drove her body across country. The cops found her in bed in a shrine.
Yea I noticed that too, because i remember how grotesque that part of the story was... however, mistakes happen. I wouldn't say that means this wasn't well researched.
From what I remember about the Amy Carlson case, it was initially reported that her followers did put her into a closet briefly before relocating her across the country. I remember because the first video I watched on her cult only mentioned the closet and other two videos I watched mentioned it was a bed and entirely omitted the closet. Then a forth video I watched stated that investigators had been alerted to her having passed away, they searched for her and did not find her but were told soon after that they hadn’t looked in the closet. By the time they had gotten a search warrant for any rooms in the house she was in, she had already been relocated. Another video I watched that wasn’t even about her stated that there were multiple conflicting reports on where her body was located. So I don’t fault Cece on only finding the closet part and not the others as she was only covering this wicked woman and not Amy.
I feel awful for Angela's victims, they sound so disappointed in themselves for trusting and following her but it is terrifying how easily you can be sucked into this. I was a Jehovah's Witness and the tactics are all the same for these cults. I had horrible things happen to me within it but I still stayed. I had the same guilt these women do but you're so overwhelmed by their wording and actions towards you and often feel you have nowhere to turn. I hope they can recover/heal from this and know they are not 'weak' or 'stupid', it happens to a lot of people.
I'm a death doula - trust me when I say that people want you to focus on their loved one & ensure they have a calm, pain free death. They do not want to hear about your ability to communicate with the spirit world. Ever. Unless they ask, which they won't
The BITE model appears identical to an abusive marriage. I love this deep dive! I am currently struggling with witnessing the repercussions someone I know is living with because of the person's spouse. We can find joy in our lives without being manipulated. I suppose that when you've been broken, you forget the joy you once had. If Seth McFarland's Lois Griffin can realize where to find joy, then we can as well. (So, sue me - _Family Guy_ was the parallel I found for my husband to understand.) I wish so much healing for the people who opened up to you, and want to remind them that they can find joy in more than the words of a boss babe. I thank them and hope their words help your audience avoid cults and other such nightmares.
Oh hell yeah let’s go. Just started my Saturday chores and CC pops up??? Fate much?? Thank you for the efforts with this video. I’m glad you didn’t post it before it was ready.
I am a spiritual person. Anything you want to know is free. You don’t have to even interact with any people if you don’t want to. To me, spirituality allows you to take what resonates and leave the rest, WITHOUT trying to recruit others to believe the same. Also, you can trust me because I live in the woods (in a house cause I manifested it 😂) #coexist
As a Coloradan, I apologize for the number of cult leaders that wind up in our state. I don’t know what about it attracts them so much, but this keeps happening for some reason…
I am an ex-cult member (not this one). The years in and practicing their “teachings” were the most devastating years of my life. Many people were hurt by my false beliefs, not just me. And that is what upsets me the most, the leader hurt me and ruined my life, but what is worse, is how her false beliefs and abusive practices hurt so many other people.
The San Juans are amazing. I took a ferry ride touring several of the San Juan islands during a visit and thats what made me decide to move to WA. 😍 I've been here 24 years now, best decision I ever made!
Love the mix of content you’re putting out!! And that it’s still focused on looking out for people thru educating & pointing out those 🚩 🚩 Congratulations on all your achievements & success🤙 🍻to many more
I almost think it’s worse… I think she knows what she’s doing, and is just pretending to be a little delulu at times so if shit hits the fan, she can claim insanity or whatever. I think she’s too smart for her own good and is using her charisma and intellect to manipulate people
@@SweetlyxJulesI have a feeling you're right. I suspect mostly it is an act because she has pivoted and started to target _this_ group of people now, having fleeced the witchy types she indoctrinated into her cult initially as much as she can...I suspect they either started to get wise, fall off or started rebelling against paying her thousands anymore. It just so happens that the boss babe MLM types seem to primarily thrive through the right wing god squaders, so now she has reinvented herself for that. Honestly, I suspect if she hadn't intended on taking as many of her cult followers with her as a downline then it wouldn't have surprised me if she would have changed her identity completely, even. Not saying she doesn't have a little delulu going on, because some of what was said...makes me suspect she does have something going on mental health wise. But I also suspect there is a heavy dose of narcissism going on (not sure if to the extent of NPD, or maybe anti-social personality disorder, which covers psychopath & sociopath - there are things that were definitely sparking thoughts of the latter based on previously watching a disgnosed sociopath talk abojt her experiences & viewpoint).
You are making this first cup of coffee so much better. Your deep dives are perfecttttttion. Can't wait for part two. 💙 Random but she sounds so much like my sister it's making me uncomfortable. The communing with the trees shit is WILD and familiar. She has also claimed "homelessness" when she was staying at an air b&b. I am fully expecting her to become one of these cult members/leaders one day. Halp. 😅 *Jesus' ho friend* 😂
My second time watching... This is just mind-blowing!!! Such a well done video Chelsea!! (and the awesome Ethan!!)… Killed it!!! PS My first comment as a member!!! 🩷🔥🔥🌶️
Oh I’m loving this! I love the way it was edited. I love your in depth and commentary. I’m only 30 minutes in but I’m hooked and totally watching again lol 😂 Your Marnie video is my comfort video when I can’t sleep 😂
This is such a weird thing to knit pick, but as someone who is actually from the place the first enslaved Africans arrived, it ain't South Carolina. It's Hampton, Virginia. My hometown doesn't love that fact, but there's a good historic site run by the National Park Service that's worth visiting. It's attached to Ft.Monroe, another fascinating historic site.
I'm only 5 minutes in, but I was like, why does this sound familiar? I'm positive that I listened to a podcast that was created by a victim of this woman (not going to mention it, just in case). They have three episodes talking about being sucked into a cult for an entire year. I'm going to have to listen to it again, as it's been months, to confirm. But I'm positive it was this woman. Okay, it IS in fact about this woman. They call her Bird Mama (which is what she preferred her followers to call her) to prevent suing, but they called it "The Phoenix Experience". So it is definitely confirmed. Again, I'm only about 5 minutes in, so you probably interviewed them yourself. Thank you for talking about this, Chelsea. So many people were affected by this, so I'm glad more people are being made aware of this.
amazing part 1!! looking forward to part 2. 🤩 learned a lot and you are right .. with the system in the US as it is .. stay-at-home mums and single moms are easy targets for these scammers.
There’s also a claim that Sharee passed from status epilepticus (a seizure lasting longer than 5 minutes; as soon as it hits 5+ minutes the survival rate decreases until
1:01:14 I love how you took a moment to explain and warn about MLMs. Monat is just one of the many. Although I'm goddamn THRILLED Monat is crashing and burning. All of the MLMs have got to go!
Rewatching today! Wild that at an hour in I don’t even realize it’s been an hour. One sign of a great deep dive. Thanks for all that hard work! Here’s hoping Angela stops all this and gets some help.
Seriously, this video 😳🤯 well done Chelsea! Unbelievable research and editing (go Ethan!) I hope this video reaches at least one person in her cult that changes their opinion of her. People need to open their eyes
I love these style documentaries you do. I was so engaged the whole video and I’ve never even heard about any of this lol. Now I know. This Lady’s a nut. I’m looking forward to part II
I’m still laughing about her marketing and networking advice at the end…. “Walk up to people and if they compliment your nails, say, ‘My pretty nails are dead. And my hair is dead too. They’re the same. They’re dead. Hi, my name is Angela, and I sell shampoo” lmaoooo
One issue is that collecting bones for this individual was a part of their religious faith. Although many people do not understand pagan practices. It is not accurate to call practicing bone divination a mental illness. Indeed, this woman did exhibit many characteristics of someone who is struggling with a cluster personality disorder, but her faith and practice should not be scrutinized.
In 2019 I was in a safe house for trafficking (so obviously religious) and 3 different mlm's came into our home and tried to sign us up. They said they were trying to give us the gift of wealth. Most trafficking victims get 5-25k in a victims fund in the first few months. They actually tried to convince me that giving the mlm all my money was the best decision I could make for my future. I complained to the 'non profit' who ran the safe house. They made me feel unmotivated and lazy for not signing up. They are no longer a non-profit and are being looked at for fraud. Imagine that....
Fabulous job for speaking out!!! You rock!!
@LiaanaKuolmi Thank you! I have gone to the fundraising events and connected with the people running them and even got to speak on stage once. You should have seen their faces when I walked in. I'm sure they assumed I wouldn't make it like everyone else, but my anger kept me going. They ran up and started hugging me and gave me and my friend a 1,600 table for free at the event when I walked in. Oops it looks like they effed up lol. I actually got to speak to the mayor in a private room and he recorded it. That 'non profit' has lost almost all of it's funding and the fbi no longer uses them as a safe house they just get hotel rooms. 😁
@@gingerlee726 Amazing.💖 So glad they lost funding!! Consequences for such groups can be rare - it's great that you were able to make sure these people actually didn't get away with their crap.
That’s diabolical
@@gingerlee726 that is epic. I’m sorry you went through that but so proud of what you did after! 👏
As a native American that shit infuriated me to hear. Our people were hurting, being abused by the authorities there, losing their home having water tainted when water is life and she used it as a photo op and sales situation? Also idk about all tribes but there's many unless you are native and have explicit permission by the owner of said tipi, you are NOT to take photos in front of it, inside of it etc. and never go inside. I'm not surprised but it's infuriating. And to say a white buffalo women showed herself? What in the racism caucasity bullshit is that? The fact that this is only one bit of the fucked of things she's done is terrifying
Forgive my ignorance, but is it traditional to be gifted a name by a tribe as it's an honour? One can't just make up their own.
Waltzing around the camp and taking advantage is so disrespectful to me.
@@KelseyDrummer from everything ive ever been told yes it's given to you by your elders typically after you've found out what your spirit animal is
I grew up on the border of ND and MN, many of my friend had family at the protests
The way she acted makes me sick. These people were fighting against what would be a malicious disaster.
And she used it for clout basically
As a Canadian native I feel this 100%
I agree as far as her actions we’re disgusting and reprehensible, but you’re not much better. You casually drop a racial slur against white people as though it’s it’s nothing. I don’t understand why society now thinks their racism is ok but not others’ racism. Congratulations, you are a bigot. I would be in able of using a racial slur because it is against everything I was raised to believe. You are clearly comfortable with it. You are the evil you profess to hate and I am sick of people being proud to be bigots while condemning others as bigots. Don’t be a hypocrite, proudly state that you are a bigot and I’d have more respect for your then cosplaying as moral authority. Pathetic.
I joined late and thought you were using the term mystery school, mystery school, mystery school repeatedly because the schools had no legit credentials or licensing. But nooooo, the effing name of these scams is actually mystery school😂 what in the scooby doo is going on with these people?
it’s giving jinkies!
Zoinks!
The fact my fiance and my son are watching scooby doo right now. While I’m watching this 😳😳😳
This is hilarious
I wouldn't do that shit for a whole box of Scooby snacks 😂
If I’m a coward for wearing a mask about a possible death illness for my high risk brother, and super high risk grandma 🤷🏻♀️ I’m okay with that. I would rather be cautious and careful than be the cause of what could happen- and that goes for anything.
Exactly!!! I had my son 3 months before the pandemic shut down. I was a new mom and scared to death. I’m also high risk as I have asthma.
thank you both! as someone who is immunocompromised, i appreciate it, truly ❤️
Informed caution is a survival skill. Only stupid people know now fear.
Slap my a$$ and call me a coward
Geuss you haven't heard that they came out and said everything that was imposed during Covid had no scientific basis behind it...
Her calling herself a death doula is. Incredibly insulting, to say the least- I'm planning to go into that field and it is NOT something to be taken lightly. You don't talk to the already deceased, you work with those who are still alive but flickering out. You are, ultimately, a lifeline for the family.
I was thinking that too, claiming to talk to the dead is very disrespectful and not even what that profession even does!
@@itsnotrounditsapyramid Shaking your hand rn. You. You Get It
@@siphonophorespiral I wish you luck in your future career 🙂
Oh shut up you clown
Yes. This was my Avocation of 30 years. Hospice Death Duola is a Incredibly Intimate and PRIVATE relationship between family and their Providers. NEVER would I have PRETENDED to channel messages from their ancestors. I AM Twice Born had a NDE on an operating table and then spent 30 years of Service and Learning with Elders and others in Transmutation end stages.
It's Abhorrent to Steal from the Dying their Time with their ACTUAL Loved ones and REAL family cannot be replaced.
We don't curse living beings in my family. Its awfully tempting when humans like this defile such a Holy Space sigh.
Thank you to everyone who was brave enough to speak out!!! Thank you to all the members who helped make this as well!! She has a little girl. Ugh that’s frightening
It's wild to me when MLM boss babes suggest to use someone complimenting you as a pitch opportunity. Imagine telling someone you like the way they dye thier hair and they go "Thanks, want to know how I can afford it? You could do it too."
Make me want to never give a compliment again😭😂
Oh God, compliments can be so dangerous, I was working as a cashier and complimented a woman's nails, and she told me it was Color Street. 🤦🏼♀️🤦🏼♀️ She didn't try to recruit me or anything, but I hate that I said anything positive about the product.
...Skin lizards and coyotes? Reassemble skeletons? Writing poetry and screaming at trees? Ma'am were you actually abducted by the fey?
And even THEY didn't want her, incredible
We would never never skin an animal. She has no idea what she is 😂😂😂
To be rather honest, as a (begrudgingly) life-long resident of South Carolina I can speak to how extremely normal all of that is here. Yes, even skinning poor lizards. The fey ain't got shit on people from Kershaw & Union counties. I can assure you of that. 🤣🤣🤣
@the_pseudo_nim girl WHAT?! Keep y'all's people the upstate, don't come to the low country, I'm scared lol /lh that's crazy
Sounds to me like a mental break or manic episode. Wild, why would you reassemble bones? What did you do with the meat? It takes a looooong time for a whole animal be rendered to just bones even if you're actively trying to do it on purpose. Why would you do that? Was she selling reassembled coyote carcasses?
Homeless living in the woods with her nails on point in every video. 💅
She needed them that way to skin lizards.
Intro was awesome. Thanks for always putting us on and aplifying people who are falling for these control groups and the people behind them.
Angela made a statement in regards to the Holocaust that is inaccurate. She said and I'm paraphrasing here that Jews were targeted because of their religion. Judaism is an ethno-religion and a (closed) culture that is 4,000 years old. When Jews are targeted it can be because the antisemitism is religious based, ethnic/racial based, or both. The Holocaust targeted Jews due (debunked) race science and eugenics. We were targeted for being ethnically/racially Jewish rather then for being religiously Jewish. Which is why Jews who were not religiously Jewish were still targeted in the Holocaust. This is very important to understand about the Holocaust.
I’m actually shocked that there are people who don’t realize this!
Genuinely curious here, I thought there were also religious reasons mixed in? H*tler was very inspired by Luther, who was very antisemitic, and quoted him in Mein Kampf. From what I understood, he was quite Christian as well and this was a particularly violent vein of Christianity. I always thought there was a mix of both religious and ethnic/racial motivators - the one they used in the narrative depended on who they were taking to and so on. Thank you for sharing your knowledge! I’m interested in hearing more
@@communistsharks6889idk who he thought he was "inspired by" but Hitler was NOT a true Christian or following God's teachings at all whatsoever. Certainly not the teachings of Jesus in the New Testament. He was full of HATE, not LOVE. He also tried to play God by trying to ethnically cleanse a group of people. He did not have the right to end peoples' lives or torture them how he did; he was a monster.
@@communistsharks6889 he did it because of the central bankers
Nope. Every few hundred years, people rebrand hatred of Jews to seem acceptable. In the 1400s, people said “I don’t hate Jews, I just hate their religion.” In the 1900s, people said “I don’t hate Jews, I just hate their inferior genetics.” Also “I don’t hate Jews, I just hate their language.” This is where the word “antisemitic” came from, it was a rebranding of the previous word, which was just “Jew-hatred”. So no, at the time of the holocaust people were actually distancing themselves from the idea that religion motivated their hatred.
as someone who has ehlers danlos, it absolutely blows my mind she was allegedly told to stop taking her meds. eds causes issues in MANY parts of the body and most of the medications we require are life saving/changing. Chose to die? meant to happen? OUR LIVES ARE ALREADY SHORTENED ENOUGH im so sick seeing this
I really worry about people. We really need more mental health professionals and access to them!!!
I have to wonder if she’ll watch this. I feel like the narcissism in her won’t allow her not to watch. This was really well done by the way- I love the workaround of people doing voice work to protect the anonymity all those who spoke out! Can’t wait for part 2.
I kinda feel like the narcissist in her wouldn't allow her not to watch it... even tho its basically an 1:12 minutes of CC dumping on her, she has to know what people said about her so she can figure out who said what and trash them if to no one but herself... I think she just has to know if people are still afraid of her, if they're still suffering from what she did to them.. I think she'll watch, but I doubt we will ever know
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never heard of this woman until you started talking about doing the interviews for this and JEEEEEEZ i’m glad i was ignorant for so long 😭
I’ve known about her for years now and it’s about time someone exposed her. The closest we’ve gotten is some Scandinavian podcast.
Lmao this is how I ALWAYS feel when I watch anything on her channel. Or anything about any scammer, MLMer, worst UA-camrs, etc. I’m like “omg this is wild, how have I never heard this? Then omg I’m so glad I’ve never heard of these people” 😂
@@GF-wn2mv Do you mean Sektpodden, have they talked about this woman? Thank you for the tip👍 For those understanding Swedish, I really recommend Sektpodden!
That pipeline from environmental activist witch to right wing conspiracy theories is absolutely wild.
And then to flat earthers. I have a few people on my facecrack list I keep for the spectacle. They went from crunchy mom/hippie shit to ultra woke to faaaar right. Now they are flat earthers. It has been wild watching. Strangely, you get an absolutely hilarious meme here and there 🤣
This! I started to notice it after covid and as a hippie artist witch who lives in the woods, apparently my algorithm was primed for it. Now it's a train wreck I can't look away from. I did some reading up on it because these sets of views are so different; equal parts hyper individualistic points of view meets the guys digging the pipeline to rightwing crazy town. Its unreal.
Good example would be kat von d.
I am not really sure it is entirely a "pipleline" per se. As someone who has been involved in pagan "witchy" spaces online for 20 plus years the red flags were always there. Even that snippet of an interview from her witchy phase is just a collection of buzzwords that someone who is actually in those spaces would probably realize makes no sense. It would be like some random trying to convince people they are an evangelical by dropping words like "testimony" and random bible verses even when it makes no sense.
These people just latch on to whatever community they think they can find marks in or that they think they can manipulate for whatever their goal is.
Kat Von D went through a similar "transformation" on almost the same time frame interestingly. To be fair Kat never claimed to go feral like Sumner.
It’s because irrational thinking allows for irrational ideas. If you allow yourself to believe in one irrational thing, you’re more likely to buy into other irrational things like conspiracy theories and cult leaders being gods. That’s why religious people are such easy targets for mlms and conspiracy theorists, they already believe in irrational ideas. They’re very gullible people in general.
@@virtualgambit577 Hate to break the news to you but just as many atheists join cults and atheist cults exist. Being a Sam Harris fan doesn't magically make you any more "rational". Many so called new atheists are just as irrational and prone to cognitive dissonance as anyone else.
“Her gift of turning the mundane to the magical” is beautifully said & all too accurate.
Love how she kept saying that Covid wasn’t real but just said this morning that she has been dealing with Covid the last few weeks and was struggling. 😒
There's never been a better time for this quote I heard once: "You can't rationalize crazy."
Similar to a fave of mine, “you can’t make sense out of nonsense”
I'm shocked I've never heard of this woman
For real? I came to know of her during Covid when she said that it was the worst crime against humanity, worse than the H0locaust, admitted to assaulting children wearing masks, and then when she got into her “wild birth” phase shaming women who have hospital births, consider birth a medical procedure, and that we should all be consuming raw liver and raw milk.
Same!! I’ve never heard of her or the school, but enjoyed the video!
From the intro I honestly thought it was about KJ as she seems to have the same issues.
I’m glad I never heard of her. She’s got such an obnoxious voice.
And there are probably a ton more that take advantage of vulnerable people.
Chelsea this is amazing. Thank you so much much for bringing awareness to people like this who are truly so damaging and hurt so many people.
"You always find money for the things you need and want." The fact she can say that let's me know she has lived a life better than she deserved.
I guess those hungry children don't really NEED food or even want it. 🙄
This is different than a lot of your other content. I can tell you put a ton of extra work into creating this, and while I've heard this story before, new details have come to light in this video. It is obviously a testament to the time put in to interviewing and searching for primary sources. You should really be proud of the work you've done here. I love the other content too of course, I just wanted to say this was an excellent video.
Thanks, I really needed a distraction from the nightmare that is inorganic chemistry homework
This is utterly bananas. The story about Sheree…just open mouthed confusion and shock and disgust at that story.
Thank you.
Truly thank you.
I've genuinely learnt so much from you.
I'm really grateful i discovered you're channel.
I resonate on another level with the stuff you're sharing.
I'm high functioning autistic, your presentations make sense to me💚😊🏆
I knew she was nutty but this is crazy. How is she allowed to have or be around children!? Completely unstable.
I feel so sad for her kid. I hope family or someone can step in and at the very least help raise the child. They need more than just her as support.
OMG!! This was amazing reporting! Thank you!! Hanging on every word, compelling! Waiting for updates!! And as more people come forward. Because they will!!! Wow!!!
As a practicing pagan witch who lives in the Charleston area, I just want to say; we don't claim her.
I'm glad one of us said it; none of us claim her.
lol. Reading the comments no one claims her and why would they?
Honey, no one in their right mind would claim that one. I am right there with you. As I was listening I kept saying to myself: “what.. that’s not what they believe? What are you going on about?” And then I thought about it. She wouldn’t *dare* use that spiel on those who know these things since they would know she was lying. Also probably why she would change her story so often. Without a doubt, she’d run into someone well versed in one field of mystism and would have to change it in the hopes that they wouldn’t know.
She’s evil!! I can’t believe she said Sheree “chose” to die. The delusional behavior paired with narcissism is disturbing. I also have EDS and this stresses me out. Mine is not as severe as Sheree’s sounded but yike this whole situation is yucky
I never heard of this woman until you featured her. She sounds like she needs severe mental help. Looking forward to next installment.
Oh my! I thought she just did monat. Not all the other things. I was enthralled with this part one that I did laundry, the dishes, and vacuumed.
Apparently I need Chelsea's deep dives to be productive! 😂
The 666th like on the Monat Witch video feels like a good luck omen for the day 😂
Chelsea, I’m LOVING these intense deep dives, your content just keeps getting better and better.
(And Ethan is also doing amazing with these! That’s a LOT of clips to source and sort)
Me, watching from the San Juan islands: 👀
We do NOT claim her!!
Chelsea and Ethan, I know this was a lot of work but thank you! Absolutely masterful! STUNNIN!!
I’m sorry but when you said they found a dirty woman in the woods playing with bones I almost spit out my drink. 😂
Yes the wait is over part one is here
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if only she could use her delusion for good and not evil 🙄
This!
can confirm the San Juan islands are amazing, highly recommend
I have family that lives close to that area! I gotta go
You should go! They're amazing! There are certain times of the year you can see the Orcas passing through. Highly recommend kayaking around the islands. Seals will swim right up to your yak.
Very magical✨💚
I grew up on Orcas Island beautiful memories
Worth the wait; looking forward to part 2. Kudos to the members who helped with their voiceover skills. Also, your script reading is definitely getting smoother, Chelsea. Good job all around!
The script ready is really rough, glad she’s working on it!
55:13 “really low lows and gorgeous highs” - Sounds like BPD
@@mybirdsofparadise there are highs of BPD? Asking for a friend hahah 🥲
About to say the same thing - she’s literally describing mental illness bipolar 🤦🏻♀️
They didn’t put Amy Carlson in a closet. They wrapped her in Christmas lights, blankets.. they also drove her body across country. The cops found her in bed in a shrine.
What's messed up is that it's really easy to find out that information. Makes you wonder just how much real research was done here.
Yea I noticed that too, because i remember how grotesque that part of the story was... however, mistakes happen. I wouldn't say that means this wasn't well researched.
From what I remember about the Amy Carlson case, it was initially reported that her followers did put her into a closet briefly before relocating her across the country. I remember because the first video I watched on her cult only mentioned the closet and other two videos I watched mentioned it was a bed and entirely omitted the closet. Then a forth video I watched stated that investigators had been alerted to her having passed away, they searched for her and did not find her but were told soon after that they hadn’t looked in the closet.
By the time they had gotten a search warrant for any rooms in the house she was in, she had already been relocated. Another video I watched that wasn’t even about her stated that there were multiple conflicting reports on where her body was located. So I don’t fault Cece on only finding the closet part and not the others as she was only covering this wicked woman and not Amy.
Got my snacks & ready to consume this entire documentary film Chelsea has created! 🎉
Oh heck! Just realized you described most of the pastors and churchs in my area of the bible belt
Yep
I feel awful for Angela's victims, they sound so disappointed in themselves for trusting and following her but it is terrifying how easily you can be sucked into this. I was a Jehovah's Witness and the tactics are all the same for these cults. I had horrible things happen to me within it but I still stayed. I had the same guilt these women do but you're so overwhelmed by their wording and actions towards you and often feel you have nowhere to turn. I hope they can recover/heal from this and know they are not 'weak' or 'stupid', it happens to a lot of people.
Very excited for PART TWO! I know it's a lot of work but wanted to show some love and support for this project.
I'm a death doula - trust me when I say that people want you to focus on their loved one & ensure they have a calm, pain free death. They do not want to hear about your ability to communicate with the spirit world. Ever. Unless they ask, which they won't
This woman is unhinged. Chelsea thank you for bringing awareness
The BITE model appears identical to an abusive marriage.
I love this deep dive! I am currently struggling with witnessing the repercussions someone I know is living with because of the person's spouse. We can find joy in our lives without being manipulated. I suppose that when you've been broken, you forget the joy you once had. If Seth McFarland's Lois Griffin can realize where to find joy, then we can as well. (So, sue me - _Family Guy_ was the parallel I found for my husband to understand.)
I wish so much healing for the people who opened up to you, and want to remind them that they can find joy in more than the words of a boss babe. I thank them and hope their words help your audience avoid cults and other such nightmares.
I've heard it said that cults are formalized group abuse, and abusive relationships are two person cults.
I really like how you do the deep dives, it's enjoyable to listen to and easy to follow even if I am not actually watching ❤
Oh hell yeah let’s go. Just started my Saturday chores and CC pops up??? Fate much?? Thank you for the efforts with this video. I’m glad you didn’t post it before it was ready.
I am a spiritual person. Anything you want to know is free. You don’t have to even interact with any people if you don’t want to. To me, spirituality allows you to take what resonates and leave the rest, WITHOUT trying to recruit others to believe the same. Also, you can trust me because I live in the woods (in a house cause I manifested it 😂) #coexist
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Omg I gasped. Part one. Please let there be a whole season. I’m so pumped for this!
It saddens me how people can disrespect the passing of others and to not be a giving and understanding person at a time of someone's loss and grief.
The quality of this deep dive is so good! Thank you for putting so much time and effort into educating us about high control groups. You’re amazing
As a Coloradan, I apologize for the number of cult leaders that wind up in our state. I don’t know what about it attracts them so much, but this keeps happening for some reason…
I am an ex-cult member (not this one). The years in and practicing their “teachings” were the most devastating years of my life. Many people were hurt by my false beliefs, not just me. And that is what upsets me the most, the leader hurt me and ruined my life, but what is worse, is how her false beliefs and abusive practices hurt so many other people.
Hope you’re feeling better Chelsea ❤
I would sign up for Trixie Mattel to be my teacher every time.
@@cristyhenson4750 it's Katya for me
I want to be the most unhinged
The San Juans are amazing. I took a ferry ride touring several of the San Juan islands during a visit and thats what made me decide to move to WA. 😍 I've been here 24 years now, best decision I ever made!
I couldn't wait much longer to watch this so good morning from a cold Sydney morning, 4am on a Sunday, and I'm ready for the chaos.
Babe, I’m only like through the intro of this video and this is so well done! I can’t wait to watch the rest
Love the mix of content you’re putting out!! And that it’s still focused on looking out for people thru educating & pointing out those 🚩 🚩 Congratulations on all your achievements & success🤙 🍻to many more
EXCELLENT video!!!! I can’t wait for the next one. This woman is wild 👀
She is the definition of delusional.
I almost think it’s worse… I think she knows what she’s doing, and is just pretending to be a little delulu at times so if shit hits the fan, she can claim insanity or whatever. I think she’s too smart for her own good and is using her charisma and intellect to manipulate people
@@SweetlyxJulesI have a feeling you're right. I suspect mostly it is an act because she has pivoted and started to target _this_ group of people now, having fleeced the witchy types she indoctrinated into her cult initially as much as she can...I suspect they either started to get wise, fall off or started rebelling against paying her thousands anymore. It just so happens that the boss babe MLM types seem to primarily thrive through the right wing god squaders, so now she has reinvented herself for that. Honestly, I suspect if she hadn't intended on taking as many of her cult followers with her as a downline then it wouldn't have surprised me if she would have changed her identity completely, even.
Not saying she doesn't have a little delulu going on, because some of what was said...makes me suspect she does have something going on mental health wise. But I also suspect there is a heavy dose of narcissism going on (not sure if to the extent of NPD, or maybe anti-social personality disorder, which covers psychopath & sociopath - there are things that were definitely sparking thoughts of the latter based on previously watching a disgnosed sociopath talk abojt her experiences & viewpoint).
You are making this first cup of coffee so much better. Your deep dives are perfecttttttion. Can't wait for part two. 💙
Random but she sounds so much like my sister it's making me uncomfortable. The communing with the trees shit is WILD and familiar. She has also claimed "homelessness" when she was staying at an air b&b. I am fully expecting her to become one of these cult members/leaders one day. Halp. 😅
*Jesus' ho friend* 😂
I lost a couple of friends during the pandemic when they insisted that wearing a mask was worse than the holocaust.
I just can't with that.
My second time watching... This is just mind-blowing!!! Such a well done video Chelsea!! (and the awesome Ethan!!)… Killed it!!! PS My first comment as a member!!! 🩷🔥🔥🌶️
Oh I’m loving this! I love the way it was edited. I love your in depth and commentary. I’m only 30 minutes in but I’m hooked and totally watching again lol 😂
Your Marnie video is my comfort video when I can’t sleep 😂
I'm from San Juan Island. Didn't know that she was living out there for some time. And yes, very gorgeous and very touristy in the summer.
This is such a weird thing to knit pick, but as someone who is actually from the place the first enslaved Africans arrived, it ain't South Carolina. It's Hampton, Virginia. My hometown doesn't love that fact, but there's a good historic site run by the National Park Service that's worth visiting. It's attached to Ft.Monroe, another fascinating historic site.
This was a great part 1. Cannot wait for part 2
I'm only 5 minutes in, but I was like, why does this sound familiar? I'm positive that I listened to a podcast that was created by a victim of this woman (not going to mention it, just in case). They have three episodes talking about being sucked into a cult for an entire year. I'm going to have to listen to it again, as it's been months, to confirm. But I'm positive it was this woman.
Okay, it IS in fact about this woman. They call her Bird Mama (which is what she preferred her followers to call her) to prevent suing, but they called it "The Phoenix Experience". So it is definitely confirmed.
Again, I'm only about 5 minutes in, so you probably interviewed them yourself.
Thank you for talking about this, Chelsea. So many people were affected by this, so I'm glad more people are being made aware of this.
🎉🎉 hell ya 👏 saving to watch during my low vibrational plate dinner this evening haha
THANK YOU for your hard work on this, CC.
Incredible work Chelsea! Thank you so much ❤
I’m so looking forward to listening to this tomorrow morning while on my train! For now, just a like and a commentary from me! 🎉
Imagine a company having 340,000 sales reps. That alone should make anyone run from these MLMs.
amazing part 1!! looking forward to part 2. 🤩
learned a lot and you are right .. with the system in the US as it is .. stay-at-home mums and single moms are easy targets for these scammers.
There’s also a claim that Sharee passed from status epilepticus (a seizure lasting longer than 5 minutes; as soon as it hits 5+ minutes the survival rate decreases until
1:01:14 I love how you took a moment to explain and warn about MLMs. Monat is just one of the many. Although I'm goddamn THRILLED Monat is crashing and burning. All of the MLMs have got to go!
27:26 Dear Chelsea, thank you for proudly stating your view on abortion as a basic human right❤
Worth the wait. Thanks for serving up sassy facts as always.
Love that I’m here for the premiere! 🎉❤
Rewatching today! Wild that at an hour in I don’t even realize it’s been an hour. One sign of a great deep dive. Thanks for all that hard work! Here’s hoping Angela stops all this and gets some help.
I’ve been so excited for this all week! So good!
What in the documentary!!! I am amazed 10min in! Congrats ❤❤❤❤
This was SUPER interesting. I look forward to part 2.
Seriously, this video 😳🤯 well done Chelsea! Unbelievable research and editing (go Ethan!) I hope this video reaches at least one person in her cult that changes their opinion of her. People need to open their eyes
I love these style documentaries you do. I was so engaged the whole video and I’ve never even heard about any of this lol. Now I know. This Lady’s a nut. I’m looking forward to part II
I’m still laughing about her marketing and networking advice at the end…. “Walk up to people and if they compliment your nails, say, ‘My pretty nails are dead. And my hair is dead too. They’re the same. They’re dead. Hi, my name is Angela, and I sell shampoo” lmaoooo
Amazing video, thanks for all of your hard work, can't wait for part two ❤
great job on part 1, cc! love to support you!!
Happy Mother’s Day💗💐
Watching this while elevated was a journey. Especially the video call with Angela teaching how to recruit. I was very scared. 😳 😂
So blessed to get an upload on a Saturday 🙌🏻🙌🏻🙌🏻
That hair/nails pick-up line at the end was glorious 😂 who wouldn’t like to know more about dead nails and dead hair 💀🙈
I snorted laughing like wtf 😂
I remember when I read the Wikihow about how to leave a cult, one of the articles at the end of it was how to start a cult. 🤪
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Omg😭😵💫🤩
One issue is that collecting bones for this individual was a part of their religious faith. Although many people do not understand pagan practices. It is not accurate to call practicing bone divination a mental illness. Indeed, this woman did exhibit many characteristics of someone who is struggling with a cluster personality disorder, but her faith and practice should not be scrutinized.
I agree. It’s like she looked up pagan practices and new age beliefs jumble it together and spit out nonsense.
Excellent deep dive!! Loved every minute of it CC!!
Wow!! 😮 This was definitely interesting...thank you so much Chelsea for this one and all the work you did to bring it to us. Great job!!
Oooo I've been waiting for this! 💖💖