Saw The Thing for the first time last month. Completely lived up to the hype and still holds up 40 years later. Nothing more to say other than it deserves all the praise it gets!
Im glad it got the chance to be later recognized for what it was even if it bombed in theaters. A true cult classic and one of the best films of all time.
I love the "Let's warm things up" scene. That is the moment where they commit themselves to a suicide mission and in a sense gain power from it. No chance of survival holding them back, it is do and die kamikaze time.
The fact the defibrillator scene ended up with the Thing going up in flames for real, leading to Rob Bottin having to spend days painfully rebuilting it all again from scratch, makes me appreciate the hard work put into practically effects, even more.
Now most of the effects you see in films and especially TV is CGI garbage. Like even something simple like a fireplace in a scene will sometimes be CG fire, which NEVER looks good. It's mind boggling they spend what they do for CG rendering when the practical effect has to be so much cheaper.
@joeyservo agreed. Cgi can be ok, if utilised smartly. But man, I saw on FB that on Spiderman: No Way Home that Nick Furys tranq gun was CGI. Seriously, couldn't even fix up a cheap Prop. I just dud a review on Evil Dead, and in that I mention the effort and clever thinking Sam Raimi went into to make that movie, despite his limited resources.
The interesting thing about this movie is when you read the actual script. As Dr Copper was not supposed to die by getting his arms bitten off, but survived up until Palmer turned. Meaning, there was still issues to who was meant to die originally. Amazing how in the time that this was made, the crew managed to handle the story changes in a timely fashion.
Cheers for inviting me on for this Drinker. I really enjoyed it and was a ton of fun. Almost forgot we were live until we got to the superchats, just like chatting down the pub.
I watched The Thing last weekend with my 20 year old son, he thought it was fantastic. We're watching Big trouble in little China this weekend... it's all in the reflexes
Came here to post this. Extremely comfy commentary. I think it was originally recorded for the laser disc. Lots of cool insights and their chemistry is out of this world. Hoping we get another collab out of them before either of them croak.
@@PanzerblitzRnRit’s so comfortable you forget when they go completely off track. I laughed when after 20 minutes of them talking about barbecues and baseball they suddenly realise and get back to the movie.
So are the other two they did together for Escape from New York and Big Trouble in Little China!. And Carpenter and Piper together on They Live is great too.
Although I've read it was discounted by John Carpenter, there's a fan theory that in the ending, Childs is a 'thing'. When MacReady offers him a swig from his bottle of booze, it's actually one of the molotov cocktails he'd been using. When Childs drinks it without reacting, MacReady realises Childs is infected and laughs to himself, resigned to his fate as he knows he's in no position to do anything about it.
I saw this on its original theatrical release. The theater was empty except for me. About half way through I almost got up and left because I was that freaked out. I’m glad that I stayed. This movie is brilliant on many levels. I’m an actor-my stage name is MacReady because of this flick.
First saw this on DVD when I was 11. Couldn’t get past the dog kennel scene. Tried again when I was 14, got through it, loved it, and refused to be alone with my dog for a little while! 😂
For me, wot makes practical effects superior is that the camera angle on them is usually carefully considered, with the camera continuously moving. Versus CGI, where the camera's focus is static and the effect is just shoved up the viewer's nose.
Agreed, we have all sorts of examples where even really primitive movies benefit from great cinematography. Every movie can benefit from it while it is mostly lost in newer movies, where they adopt over the top special effects over cinematography and practical effects only slipping in some stunts to keep people interested
@@occultnightingale1106 You need CGI for some stuff, but its way overused and looks out of place nowdays. Just look at the T-Rex from Jurassic Park a perfect mix of both worlds.
Take a short story with a great premise, a brilliant director of horror movies, an amazing cast of talented actors, and possibly the greatest practical effects magician....throw that lot into a blender of blood and guts and imagination.... and you get this masterpiece. It's as good today as the first time I saw it 40 years ago.
Not as horrifying as Norris's chest bursting opening. Seriously, there needs to be a notice that reads: "Warning: Pregnant woman should be advised not to see this film."
John Carpenter is a masterful director and what i love is that he has never revealed "who was first". It absolutely builds that paranoia as drinker says and every second of the movie is filled with tension and absolute horror.
I remember in summer of '82 when John Carpenter's The Thing was playing in the same theater as E.T. I begged my parents to take me to see The Thing, they insisted that we see E.T. I consider this Mr. Carpenter's Sistine chapel. He's made great films throughout his amazing career, but this is truly his masterpiece. Thank you Mr. Critical Drinker for celebrating one of the greatest sci-fi horror movies ever made.
"I know you gentlemen have been through a lot, but I'd rather not spend all Winter TIED TO THIS ****ING COUCH!" Epic movie with so many epic lines. But my favorite part is during MacReadys blood test...where Windows legitimately doesnt known if HE is the Thing (which is hilarious and utterly terrifying)
The Thing is basically the movie Alien...but so many differences in excellent ways. I can watch either on repeat and I honestly can't decide which one is my favorite
I used to be a serious insomniac when I was in my late teens. I'd find a random movie on late night cable to watch if I couldn't sleep. I discovered The Thing at 1AM on a week night. Such a great viewing experience.
The one thing that people don't mention about the dead human at the Norwegian base is he also cut his own throat and it's not simple slice he's REALLY cut into his throat deep. That alone for shadow's how bad things will get.
This was really fun. The thing is one of my favorite movies of all time. That synth heartbeat sound. The howl from the first infected scientist. Was terrifyying to me.
I stumbled upon The Thing on TV at the age of about 11 one night when I was allowed to stay up and the parents had gone to bed. So I was sitting there by myself in the middle of the night, 11 y/o, when the dog starts coming apart and of course nearly shit myself. Edit: Wait wait wait wait, what?? The Thing recreated Bennings' clothes. Wow, I never picked up on that all these years. So the "clothes" on Thing Bennings was Thing flesh chameleoning as clothing. LMAO That never dawned on me, I'm so stupid. I think Lance is wrong about infected people thinking they're still human, that full takeover takes time. We see how fast the Thing can morph and grow. Look how fast Norris' head grows those legs and eye stalks. Look how fast Windows was completely turned after being attacked by Palmer, with the weird noises he was making. I think the Thing is just smart enough to pantomime and throw off suspicion. When they're doing the hot wire test, everybody is nervous when their blood is about to be tested. But when they get to Palmer he just makes that nonchalant, shrugging sort of expression, like, "Oh well, you got me."
Absolutely love Evil Dead, changed my life when I was a kid. Finally got my wife to watch them the other as we are seeing the Evil Dead musical in a few weeks! Yes she enjoyed the movies and now knows where my humor and mannerisms come from.
The thing is such a quality horror film. Not knowing who you can trust until it's too late, seeing the thing take on frightening forms of its victims, but never seeing the thing itself. Easily one of my top 10 horror films of all time. 🎉
Drinker, I love these one-on-one shows. When you have a bunch of guests, they end up having to lob in the odd funny bit just to be heard. This is a much more relaxed and better format. I also think John Carpenter deserves more respect. What a fantastic body of work he has done. Big Trouble in Little China, Halloween, The Thing, Escape from New York. Even the low budget Dark Star is a fun and interesting movie. Weird and pissed off, what a line.
Spoiler: The best part about the "you gotta be f-ing kidding" guy is that by that point he is already a Thing. That makes you wonder how aware the individual Things are at any moment. Are they sleeper cells that only awaken under certain circumstances that benefit the Thing? Was that a genuine reaction based on the absorbed personality of the guy, or was it the Thing pretending to be shocked to help disguise itself? Those kinds of questions are why I love this film.
I wondwr this myself since watching..is the "thing" person aware they are a thing on some level. Norris having pain prior to hos "heart attack" he seems confused and its hard to figure if hes actually aware hes the parasite.
Well we know by Blair's analysis that it can take you over on a cellular level, but we also see Bennings transformed quickly, so Palmer may have been in midtransformation.
@@johnmurdoch8534 or, he wanted to be put out there to have privacy building his escape ship. Trashing the helicopters originally was not to keep the team there, but get him the parts he required.
I have an admission .... Me and 2 mates, at age 10ish watched 'The Thing's at the mates parents place as the adults where bbq and some box wine party ..... When finished we went outside and our parents asked what the hell was wrong as we were sickly pale and freaked out ..... We had just watched The Thing and had the souls terrified out of us like no other movie ever achieved. And I admit, 40 odd yrs later I have NEVER BEEN ABLE to re-watch the thing .... Relieving the tale brings back OMG moments and things that I had honest to god blanked out ..... I have to do one of those self deprecating lol now but my mind absolutely freezes up at the thought of trying to watch it ..... Maybe I at least download it and find someone cute to hold my hand as I watch 😊
@@siradro I know ... I've just downloaded it as I'm watching this discussion, this YT video is just a great one and why I enjoy the drinker getting critical and with a guest who I've just subbed to now as well .... I KNOW I got to watch it again, I'll have my spare underwear 🩳 on standby .... But yes I'm a god dam 50yo chicken 🐔🐔🐔🐔 I'll add a comment if I make it .... So funny that a movie 4 decades later can have an effect ... Wish me luck drinker and buddies!!!
I can totally buy they'd have flame throwers around just to melt ice off outdoor equipment. When I was near Sapporo in the winter, there was a little old japanese guy going around with an oldschool flame torch melting ice around the manhole covers.
Oh man! I’ve been waiting for this one! This movie is a master class in good storytelling and isolation horror. Can’t wait to listen to the conversation! Drinker, I’m grateful for your love of good quality cinema! Keep doing what you do!
Great conversation! One thing I think you guys missed talking about was the scene where MacReady was talking into a tape recorder about the situation. The "Nobody....nobody trusts anybody now....and we're all very tired " was haunting, and also quite interesting that he rewound the tape and recorded over that part.
Myself and my dad used to regularly watch movies together when i was a kid , it was our "thing" that we bonded over , he seen the thing in the cinema and it was probably the only movie he praised like hell.
In the book the Thing had to kill its victim in secret as it had to turn into its natural (defenceless) form to absorb and assimilate the body especially as dead brain cells turn into mush after only 4 minutes. In the book they had cattle which had been infected but they had injected the cows milk with no ill affects (other than one of the characters puking when he found out). So when Blair says it can imitate its victim perfectly he's not joking.
My first experience with this classic was in the early 80s on HBO with some friends. I was elected to go on a beer run early into the movie. When I returned, my friends could not describe the scene I'd missed. It was the one where the alien took over the dogs and morphed into this incredibly ferocious being. I did finally see it on a subsequent repeat on HBO and I could easily understand how my friends couldn't describe the scene. An absolutely epic film. Thanks for the memories, Will and Lance!
@@THEOUTCASTSCREATIVEIncidentally, would you happen to have any details to hand concerning the 1986 ITV screening of 'The Thing'. I'm pretty sure it was advertised alongside 'Jaws' (the gimmick for the latter i seem to remember was a surfboard with the word JAWS written on it with a bite taken out of if it) and before it was screened there was a static image of one of the posters with a scary sort of voice over by one of the announcers. Oh and all the bits using the F word were all edited out so my first memories of watching the film are minus some of the best bits. I believe the screening was in July of that year if that helps 😁
I saw it opening day back in 1982. Having read the short story "Who Goes There?" I realized something was up as soon as I saw the guys in the chopper shooting at the husky. I remember the theater being pretty packed, but when I came back to watch it again there was a 90% drop off. This of course was the year we had a lot of classic movies come out in a short period of time. Conan the Barbarian, Blade Runner, The Road Warrior, The Wrath of Khan, Poltergeist all came out that late spring and early summer of 1982 (along with E.T.). I always thought The Thing just got lost in the whirlwind of incredible cinema viewing.
I just rewatched this with a friend! Such a great movie; you might even call it a prayer for human selflessness in its own way. I hope I can make a film, myself, that measures up someday.
I've always wondered how Benning's freakishly large Thing hands fit through the sleeves of his coat. Did you notice the wires attaching the chest-burst Norris arms to the ceiling when MacReady is burning it?
One of the greatest horror movies ever made! Top class practical FX, sound design and tension throughout make this one of the best! John Carpenter is one of the greatest horror directors and this is his one of his top movies.
John Carpenter's movies were relatively low budget, so they had to get really creative with the special effects and that created the best practical special effects. It also forced them to keep the special effects subtle, leaning into that "less is more" philosophy that also worked quite well in Alien: just show flashes of the monster and that enhances the creepiness.
I remember watching it at our local movie theater, that doesn't exist anymore, back in 1982. It was brilliant, the effects was, at the time, the coolest I had seen.
I'm glad you actually linked to Outcasts Creative in the description. So many channels promote their guests in the video without actually providing a direct link to their channels in the description, instead having endless links to their own work cluttering the description box. I find that rude and lazy.
Actually Larry Franco was the one in the blue coat, who got blown up with the helicoptor as he tries to dig the grenade out of the snow. The one with the assault rifle and trying to explain in Norsk is actually German Actor Norbert Weisser, Might have seen him before in Midnight Express, Schindler's List and the Road to Wellville. I could tell he was German speaking in the way he was pronouncing the Norsk Dialogue.
Re the heart attack scene, I once loaned the VHS to a friend who watched the film while sitting on a short-back rocking chair. When the chest burst open, she jump-scared so hard she fell over the back of the chair. :D
Love this movie. And for me the ending is even bleaker than just "!everyone dies" because the thing had survived being frozen for thousands of years, and its inevitable that people would come to investigate what happened. So they'd discover bodies and examine remains and the thing would infect people and 3 years later the world is assimilated.
What just happened here, I was just thinking about this movie and also rewatched drinker,s review yesterday. And today there,s a drinker chaser about it
What do you mean why would they have flame throwers? It' a 12 polar chads! Why wouldn't they have flame throwers? I would highly recommend a short story called "The Things". It is a telling of the story from the alien's perspective. It sounds goofy but it is very well written and 100% serious. Also there is a Dead Space movie with Bryan Cranston in 1991. Also, in Harbinger down near the beginning you can see the Chess Master machine in the foreground.
With the world being blessed with my arrival in 72, I had the pleasure of seeing most of my Desert Island films (Predator / Wrath of Khan / Aliens / The Thing) first time around. I was able to BS my way into Predator underage at the Cinema, and saw both Wrath of Khan and Aliens at the Cinema on release. However late night Terrestrial TV was my first chance to see the Thing (quite possibly Alex Cox's Moviedrome late night films series?) The film rocked and is packed with awesome lines. "It isn't Bennings..." No f'ing shit lol! But it was to be several years later when I got the Blu-ray that the film stealing line to let Garry of the couch was mine to behold!
The character of Clark was most interesting to me..he strikes me as a loner more at comfortavke wiyh the dogs. We only get a few bits of this but we do see it.
For any fans of the John W. Campbell story, the original manuscript was recently found amongst a forgotten group of his papers. Entitled FROZEN HELL, it has 45 extra pages, the original first 3 chapters that Campbell later cut out. They detail the discovery of the ship, its destruction and the finding of the alien in real time instead of Commander Garry’s short summation in the published story. There are also some interesting minor differences as well as a bit of information not in the novella. Definitely recommended.
I like happy Drinker. :) I made a Thing "crab head" Jack-o'-lantern where I used carrots and gourds for the extremities, carved it upside down, and made a little rolling cart for it to skitter around on. 🙃 I did try to burn it with a makeshift flamethrower, with a lighter and arousal spray, but the spray I used didn't ignite (can't remember if it was wd-40, bug spray, or what.) Just burned it in the fire pit instead.
Windows loses it because he comes to realize he had the keys last and they might blame him. The scene where Bennings is getting taken over you can hear Windows drop the keys as he runs away and at that point anyone could of gotten them off the floor.
Saw The Thing for the first time last month. Completely lived up to the hype and still holds up 40 years later. Nothing more to say other than it deserves all the praise it gets!
Just don’t watch the 2011 one 😢
@@heey_im_mike Agree, it doesn't have the tension or script and the CGI is uninspired and boring
Greatest remake of all time.
Will make you have trust issues for a good minute.
Im glad it got the chance to be later recognized for what it was even if it bombed in theaters. A true cult classic and one of the best films of all time.
I love the "Let's warm things up" scene. That is the moment where they commit themselves to a suicide mission and in a sense gain power from it. No chance of survival holding them back, it is do and die kamikaze time.
I’m really happy to see Drinker returning to one-on-one conversations about movies; feels like he hasn’t done that in a very long time.
I've really missed them.
I really enjoy them too. Favourite is Star Trek: The Motion Picture.
.. Those 'Comics' are garbage - The GAME is the 'Sequel.'
The fact the defibrillator scene ended up with the Thing going up in flames for real, leading to Rob Bottin having to spend days painfully rebuilting it all again from scratch, makes me appreciate the hard work put into practically effects, even more.
Now most of the effects you see in films and especially TV is CGI garbage. Like even something simple like a fireplace in a scene will sometimes be CG fire, which NEVER looks good. It's mind boggling they spend what they do for CG rendering when the practical effect has to be so much cheaper.
@joeyservo agreed. Cgi can be ok, if utilised smartly. But man, I saw on FB that on Spiderman: No Way Home that Nick Furys tranq gun was CGI. Seriously, couldn't even fix up a cheap Prop. I just dud a review on Evil Dead, and in that I mention the effort and clever thinking Sam Raimi went into to make that movie, despite his limited resources.
So they aren't fully effects just yet, but they are practically effects! Lol
@@joeyservothe balrog looks good!
The interesting thing about this movie is when you read the actual script. As Dr Copper was not supposed to die by getting his arms bitten off, but survived up until Palmer turned. Meaning, there was still issues to who was meant to die originally. Amazing how in the time that this was made, the crew managed to handle the story changes in a timely fashion.
Cheers for inviting me on for this Drinker. I really enjoyed it and was a ton of fun. Almost forgot we were live until we got to the superchats, just like chatting down the pub.
I watched The Thing last weekend with my 20 year old son, he thought it was fantastic. We're watching Big trouble in little China this weekend... it's all in the reflexes
Jack Burton may be my favorite Carpenter creation
They live and the fog 😍
The DVD commentary with John Carpenter and Kurt Russell is well worth a listen also.
It absolutely is.
This is true for any commentary track with those two. It's just them shooting the shit and Kurt laughing his ass off.
Came here to post this. Extremely comfy commentary. I think it was originally recorded for the laser disc. Lots of cool insights and their chemistry is out of this world. Hoping we get another collab out of them before either of them croak.
@@PanzerblitzRnRit’s so comfortable you forget when they go completely off track. I laughed when after 20 minutes of them talking about barbecues and baseball they suddenly realise and get back to the movie.
So are the other two they did together for Escape from New York and Big Trouble in Little China!. And Carpenter and Piper together on They Live is great too.
I’ve missed Happy Hour. Thanks for bringing it back.
Although I've read it was discounted by John Carpenter, there's a fan theory that in the ending, Childs is a 'thing'. When MacReady offers him a swig from his bottle of booze, it's actually one of the molotov cocktails he'd been using. When Childs drinks it without reacting, MacReady realises Childs is infected and laughs to himself, resigned to his fate as he knows he's in no position to do anything about it.
That’s a popular theory
There's also offshoots, like his breath isn't visible etc etc.
I do like that it's somewhat left on a cliffhanger to be fair
Carpenter confirms they're both human on the director's track but delibertately left it open ended.
My favourite horror of all time, classic story telling with great practical fx. Carpenter for me was a great underestimated auteur.
I saw this on its original theatrical release. The theater was empty except for me. About half way through I almost got up and left because I was that freaked out. I’m glad that I stayed. This movie is brilliant on many levels. I’m an actor-my stage name is MacReady because of this flick.
Man! I’m jealous. I was 8 years old when this movie was released theatrically. Breaks my heart that the cinema was empty. This movie is a masterpiece
Adrienne Barbeau is still alive I'm glad to say 🙂
Yeah, I had to stop and check when they said that. I was thinking "When did that happen?". Fortunately, she's still with us.
Just a great film all round. Excellent set design, fantastic music and eerie sound design, awesome cast, script and story.
Plus the alien... chilling.
The Thing is in my top 5 movies of all time. Almost everything about it displays a master of horror at the top of his game.
I'd put it right up there with Aliens.
First saw this on DVD when I was 11. Couldn’t get past the dog kennel scene. Tried again when I was 14, got through it, loved it, and refused to be alone with my dog for a little while! 😂
I was the same, maybe a bit older but that scene is still the only thing that's ever scared me in a movie.
The only thing missing would be some asian grabbing a bite after they barbacue the dog :p
Same except I was skeptical of everything organic.
This movie really displays how superior practical effects are to CGI when done appropriately.
For me, wot makes practical effects superior is that the camera angle on them is usually carefully considered, with the camera continuously moving. Versus CGI, where the camera's focus is static and the effect is just shoved up the viewer's nose.
Fellowship of the Ring's Balrog
Same thing with the old Indy movies.
Agreed, we have all sorts of examples where even really primitive movies benefit from great cinematography. Every movie can benefit from it while it is mostly lost in newer movies, where they adopt over the top special effects over cinematography and practical effects only slipping in some stunts to keep people interested
@@occultnightingale1106 You need CGI for some stuff, but its way overused and looks out of place nowdays.
Just look at the T-Rex from Jurassic Park a perfect mix of both worlds.
Awesome guest, well prepared and gives a lot of trivia! Bravo
This film scared the shit out of me as a kid when it came out!! Must watch it again someday.
Carpenter's musical scores are deceptively simple. Very effective at setting the mood. I agree, his music IS a character in the movie.
My favorite movie of all time. Not horror movie, just movie. Every scene and line was worth it. And the ambiguous ending perfect.
I'm right there with you. I'm not even a big horror film guy but this movie is a 10/10 for me.
love the depth of exploration on The Thing guys. One of my all time favorite movies hands down. And Creative you got a new subscriber sir!
I just watched this for the first time the other night, was extremely impressed!
Take a short story with a great premise, a brilliant director of horror movies, an amazing cast of talented actors, and possibly the greatest practical effects magician....throw that lot into a blender of blood and guts and imagination.... and you get this masterpiece. It's as good today as the first time I saw it 40 years ago.
By far my favorite horror movie of all time. The spider head haunts my nightmares...😢
Which Spider head?
@@madcapmakov2 when the dude's head turns into a spider
Ok cuz remember there's two different spider head things. I remember the ceiling spider the most.@@r.adamcalloway8544
Not as horrifying as Norris's chest bursting opening. Seriously, there needs to be a notice that reads:
"Warning: Pregnant woman should be advised not to see this film."
I didn't think it would get worse then chest maw when I first saw it. Fuck was I wrong.
Just watched it again. Soooo good. I love how the Norwegian camp basically is their camp in the future.
I'm from Norway, and remember rewinding that bit for all to get it. It was great.😀 Good times..
John Carpenter is a masterful director and what i love is that he has never revealed "who was first". It absolutely builds that paranoia as drinker says and every second of the movie is filled with tension and absolute horror.
70- end 80' s Carpenter was an apex creative. These movies will live as long as we do.
First time I’ve seen Lance, and he’s awesome. Genuinely loves film, and seems like a really nice bloke.
Bless you sir, most kind.
Without a doubt this film is absolutely amazing from beginning to end
Lance is an awesome guest - have him on again!
I remember in summer of '82 when John Carpenter's The Thing was playing in the same theater as E.T. I begged my parents to take me to see The Thing, they insisted that we see E.T. I consider this Mr. Carpenter's Sistine chapel. He's made great films throughout his amazing career, but this is truly his masterpiece. Thank you Mr. Critical Drinker for celebrating one of the greatest sci-fi horror movies ever made.
"I know you gentlemen have been through a lot, but I'd rather not spend all Winter TIED TO THIS ****ING COUCH!"
Epic movie with so many epic lines.
But my favorite part is during MacReadys blood test...where Windows legitimately doesnt known if HE is the Thing (which is hilarious and utterly terrifying)
The Thing is basically the movie Alien...but so many differences in excellent ways. I can watch either on repeat and I honestly can't decide which one is my favorite
I used to be a serious insomniac when I was in my late teens. I'd find a random movie on late night cable to watch if I couldn't sleep. I discovered The Thing at 1AM on a week night. Such a great viewing experience.
The one thing that people don't mention about the dead human at the Norwegian base is he also cut his own throat and it's not simple slice he's REALLY cut into his throat deep. That alone for shadow's how bad things will get.
The Thing is in my all-time top 10 for sure. Well done.
This was really fun. The thing is one of my favorite movies of all time. That synth heartbeat sound. The howl from the first infected scientist. Was terrifyying to me.
First watch was in 86', and still my favorite horror.
I stumbled upon The Thing on TV at the age of about 11 one night when I was allowed to stay up and the parents had gone to bed. So I was sitting there by myself in the middle of the night, 11 y/o, when the dog starts coming apart and of course nearly shit myself.
Edit: Wait wait wait wait, what?? The Thing recreated Bennings' clothes. Wow, I never picked up on that all these years. So the "clothes" on Thing Bennings was Thing flesh chameleoning as clothing. LMAO That never dawned on me, I'm so stupid.
I think Lance is wrong about infected people thinking they're still human, that full takeover takes time. We see how fast the Thing can morph and grow. Look how fast Norris' head grows those legs and eye stalks. Look how fast Windows was completely turned after being attacked by Palmer, with the weird noises he was making. I think the Thing is just smart enough to pantomime and throw off suspicion. When they're doing the hot wire test, everybody is nervous when their blood is about to be tested. But when they get to Palmer he just makes that nonchalant, shrugging sort of expression, like, "Oh well, you got me."
Agree and mate I've made a comment earlier my 10yo self is still scared 4 decades later
Absolutely love Evil Dead, changed my life when I was a kid. Finally got my wife to watch them the other as we are seeing the Evil Dead musical in a few weeks! Yes she enjoyed the movies and now knows where my humor and mannerisms come from.
I’ve missed this. Thanks!
The thing is such a quality horror film. Not knowing who you can trust until it's too late, seeing the thing take on frightening forms of its victims, but never seeing the thing itself. Easily one of my top 10 horror films of all time. 🎉
Drinker, I love these one-on-one shows. When you have a bunch of guests, they end up having to lob in the odd funny bit just to be heard. This is a much more relaxed and better format. I also think John Carpenter deserves more respect. What a fantastic body of work he has done. Big Trouble in Little China, Halloween, The Thing, Escape from New York. Even the low budget Dark Star is a fun and interesting movie. Weird and pissed off, what a line.
Spoiler: The best part about the "you gotta be f-ing kidding" guy is that by that point he is already a Thing. That makes you wonder how aware the individual Things are at any moment. Are they sleeper cells that only awaken under certain circumstances that benefit the Thing? Was that a genuine reaction based on the absorbed personality of the guy, or was it the Thing pretending to be shocked to help disguise itself? Those kinds of questions are why I love this film.
I wondwr this myself since watching..is the "thing" person aware they are a thing on some level. Norris having pain prior to hos "heart attack" he seems confused and its hard to figure if hes actually aware hes the parasite.
Well we know by Blair's analysis that it can take you over on a cellular level, but we also see Bennings transformed quickly, so Palmer may have been in midtransformation.
Blair was taken the moment he put the pencil eraser on the dog thing and then into his mouth
@@wartooth88 nah, he was acting to thwart the thing until he was put into the shed.
@@johnmurdoch8534 or, he wanted to be put out there to have privacy building his escape ship. Trashing the helicopters originally was not to keep the team there, but get him the parts he required.
Happy hours are back!!! Missed these for so long!!! I love open bars but happy hours are a nice addition!
O yess who dares wins is another absolutely classic R.I.P mr Collins without a doubt one of the coolest guys around bk then
I have an admission .... Me and 2 mates, at age 10ish watched 'The Thing's at the mates parents place as the adults where bbq and some box wine party ..... When finished we went outside and our parents asked what the hell was wrong as we were sickly pale and freaked out ..... We had just watched The Thing and had the souls terrified out of us like no other movie ever achieved.
And I admit, 40 odd yrs later I have NEVER BEEN ABLE to re-watch the thing ....
Relieving the tale brings back OMG moments and things that I had honest to god blanked out .....
I have to do one of those self deprecating lol now but my mind absolutely freezes up at the thought of trying to watch it ..... Maybe I at least download it and find someone cute to hold my hand as I watch 😊
I say bite the bullet, give it a watch. Great movie.
@@siradro I know ... I've just downloaded it as I'm watching this discussion, this YT video is just a great one and why I enjoy the drinker getting critical and with a guest who I've just subbed to now as well ....
I KNOW I got to watch it again, I'll have my spare underwear 🩳 on standby .... But yes I'm a god dam 50yo chicken 🐔🐔🐔🐔
I'll add a comment if I make it .... So funny that a movie 4 decades later can have an effect ... Wish me luck drinker and buddies!!!
I can totally buy they'd have flame throwers around just to melt ice off outdoor equipment. When I was near Sapporo in the winter, there was a little old japanese guy going around with an oldschool flame torch melting ice around the manhole covers.
Oh man! I’ve been waiting for this one! This movie is a master class in good storytelling and isolation horror. Can’t wait to listen to the conversation!
Drinker, I’m grateful for your love of good quality cinema! Keep doing what you do!
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My all time favorite movie.
Great conversation! One thing I think you guys missed talking about was the scene where MacReady was talking into a tape recorder about the situation. The "Nobody....nobody trusts anybody now....and we're all very tired " was haunting, and also quite interesting that he rewound the tape and recorded over that part.
I'm glad I'm not the only one that noticed how a lot of back in the day actors looked older. Leslie Nielsen is a great example.
Holy crap a happy hour so glad to see them back
More of these, please 🙏
Flaim thrower to melt ice
I was in my early teens when it released. It completely freaked me out, and 40 years later, it still does. I love it!
Same here!! 😊
I'm hearing you mate!
I was terrified by this movie when it first came out in the 80's same with Aliens now both are now two of my favourite movies of all time!🤔👍
Myself and my dad used to regularly watch movies together when i was a kid , it was our "thing" that we bonded over , he seen the thing in the cinema and it was probably the only movie he praised like hell.
In the book the Thing had to kill its victim in secret as it had to turn into its natural (defenceless) form to absorb and assimilate the body especially as dead brain cells turn into mush after only 4 minutes.
In the book they had cattle which had been infected but they had injected the cows milk with no ill affects (other than one of the characters puking when he found out). So when Blair says it can imitate its victim perfectly he's not joking.
thank you for the The Thing ReDub tip...hilarious
My first experience with this classic was in the early 80s on HBO with some friends. I was elected to go on a beer run early into the movie. When I returned, my friends could not describe the scene I'd missed. It was the one where the alien took over the dogs and morphed into this incredibly ferocious being. I did finally see it on a subsequent repeat on HBO and I could easily understand how my friends couldn't describe the scene. An absolutely epic film. Thanks for the memories, Will and Lance!
Ahhh I call it the dogmara (dog+chimara) or dogmungulus
I really liked this guest has a real passion for it and knowledge
Yes a very nice and knowledgeable chap. However, he called it wrong on Adrienne Barbeau; she is in fact still very much alive!
@@colinfenwick3052 yeah it was my bad I just got her mixed up with someone else
cheers for that. I do love good films
@THEOUTCASTSCREATIVE Yeah I didn't want to come across as one of those serial online correctors so apologies if it came across that way 😊
@@THEOUTCASTSCREATIVEIncidentally, would you happen to have any details to hand concerning the 1986 ITV screening of 'The Thing'. I'm pretty sure it was advertised alongside 'Jaws' (the gimmick for the latter i seem to remember was a surfboard with the word JAWS written on it with a bite taken out of if it) and before it was screened there was a static image of one of the posters with a scary sort of voice over by one of the announcers. Oh and all the bits using the F word were all edited out so my first memories of watching the film are minus some of the best bits. I believe the screening was in July of that year if that helps 😁
Watched this live yesterday, great stream guys!
Hail! Great to see a return of Happy Hour!
I saw it opening day back in 1982. Having read the short story "Who Goes There?" I realized something was up as soon as I saw the guys in the chopper shooting at the husky. I remember the theater being pretty packed, but when I came back to watch it again there was a 90% drop off. This of course was the year we had a lot of classic movies come out in a short period of time. Conan the Barbarian, Blade Runner, The Road Warrior, The Wrath of Khan, Poltergeist all came out that late spring and early summer of 1982 (along with E.T.). I always thought The Thing just got lost in the whirlwind of incredible cinema viewing.
The flame throwers could be used to clear an area for the helicopter to land.
I just rewatched this with a friend! Such a great movie; you might even call it a prayer for human selflessness in its own way. I hope I can make a film, myself, that measures up someday.
I've always wondered how Benning's freakishly large Thing hands fit through the sleeves of his coat.
Did you notice the wires attaching the chest-burst Norris arms to the ceiling when MacReady is burning it?
One of the greatest horror movies ever made! Top class practical FX, sound design and tension throughout make this one of the best! John Carpenter is one of the greatest horror directors and this is his one of his top movies.
Fun Fact: Kurt Russell’s acting debut was kicking Elvis Presley in the shin as a child.
He was also on an episode of Gilligan's Island.
In a fair ground. Not bad baseball play for his dad 😉 17:27
I liked the incredibly tense emergency-meeting scene where Mcready said
"there is a THING among us!"
What a pleasant surprise, I watched The Thing last night with my parents.
How did I mess that you did this stream. This his one of my favorite movies.
John Carpenter's movies were relatively low budget, so they had to get really creative with the special effects and that created the best practical special effects. It also forced them to keep the special effects subtle, leaning into that "less is more" philosophy that also worked quite well in Alien: just show flashes of the monster and that enhances the creepiness.
Actually the thing had the highest buget for a horror film to that date. Money well spent.
I remember watching it at our local movie theater, that doesn't exist anymore, back in 1982. It was brilliant, the effects was, at the time, the coolest I had seen.
I'm glad you actually linked to Outcasts Creative in the description. So many channels promote their guests in the video without actually providing a direct link to their channels in the description, instead having endless links to their own work cluttering the description box. I find that rude and lazy.
Thanks very much Faradawg
Loved this movie! Kurt Russell was awesome!
This was a great team-up, hope you do it again soon 🙏🏼
Actually Larry Franco was the one in the blue coat, who got blown up with the helicoptor as he tries to dig the grenade out of the snow. The one with the assault rifle and trying to explain in Norsk is actually German Actor Norbert Weisser, Might have seen him before in Midnight Express, Schindler's List and the Road to Wellville. I could tell he was German speaking in the way he was pronouncing the Norsk Dialogue.
yeah thanks for that correction, you're bang on
Re the heart attack scene, I once loaned the VHS to a friend who watched the film while sitting on a short-back rocking chair. When the chest burst open, she jump-scared so hard she fell over the back of the chair. :D
Love this movie. And for me the ending is even bleaker than just "!everyone dies" because the thing had survived being frozen for thousands of years, and its inevitable that people would come to investigate what happened. So they'd discover bodies and examine remains and the thing would infect people and 3 years later the world is assimilated.
What just happened here, I was just thinking about this movie and also rewatched drinker,s review yesterday. And today there,s a drinker chaser about it
Top 5 horror, #1 The Shining, #2 Alien, #3 The Thing, #4 The Fog, #5 Event Horizon
My top 3 Carpenter movies. #1 The Thing, #2 Escape from New York, #3 Big Trouble in Little China
What do you mean why would they have flame throwers? It' a 12 polar chads! Why wouldn't they have flame throwers? I would highly recommend a short story called "The Things". It is a telling of the story from the alien's perspective. It sounds goofy but it is very well written and 100% serious. Also there is a Dead Space movie with Bryan Cranston in 1991. Also, in Harbinger down near the beginning you can see the Chess Master machine in the foreground.
when windows sees bennings being attacked you hear the keys drop. thats why he freaked out, he was the last one to have them
I only seen the thing for the first time a few years ago. Its a good movie that holds up pretty well
With the world being blessed with my arrival in 72, I had the pleasure of seeing most of my Desert Island films (Predator / Wrath of Khan / Aliens / The Thing) first time around. I was able to BS my way into Predator underage at the Cinema, and saw both Wrath of Khan and Aliens at the Cinema on release. However late night Terrestrial TV was my first chance to see the Thing (quite possibly Alex Cox's Moviedrome late night films series?) The film rocked and is packed with awesome lines. "It isn't Bennings..." No f'ing shit lol! But it was to be several years later when I got the Blu-ray that the film stealing line to let Garry of the couch was mine to behold!
I grew up on horror movies. Real life scares me more than anything fictional :)
Keep in mind John Carpenter's film was a REMAKE itself, of 1951's The Thing from Another World.
Which Carpenter used excerpts of in "Halloween (1978)". It was playing on the TV when Laurie was babysitting Tommy
The character of Clark was most interesting to me..he strikes me as a loner more at comfortavke wiyh the dogs. We only get a few bits of this but we do see it.
For any fans of the John W. Campbell story, the original manuscript was recently found amongst a forgotten group of his papers. Entitled FROZEN HELL, it has 45 extra pages, the original first 3 chapters that Campbell later cut out. They detail the discovery of the ship, its destruction and the finding of the alien in real time instead of Commander Garry’s short summation in the published story.
There are also some interesting minor differences as well as a bit of information not in the novella.
Definitely recommended.
I have to say that this has been in my top one list of movie ever since I saw it when it was first released.
I like happy Drinker. :)
I made a Thing "crab head" Jack-o'-lantern where I used carrots and gourds for the extremities,
carved it upside down, and made a little rolling cart for it to skitter around on. 🙃
I did try to burn it with a makeshift flamethrower, with a lighter and arousal spray, but the spray I used didn't ignite (can't remember if it was wd-40, bug spray, or what.)
Just burned it in the fire pit instead.
Happy hour is back! Yes!
Windows loses it because he comes to realize he had the keys last and they might blame him. The scene where Bennings is getting taken over you can hear Windows drop the keys as he runs away and at that point anyone could of gotten them off the floor.
The audio adaptation "Who Goes There" is worth a listen
"The Ultimate in Alien Terror." And by God, doest it live up to the tag line.
The movies that scared me as a child were The Poltergeist, A Nightmare on Elm Street, and Wes Craven's They.
Good god this is such a great breakdown of The Thing