What presbyterian church do you belong sir? I heard there are several types of presbyterian church. Evangelical, Liberal and Orthodox. What presbyterian church can you recommend me to join here in the Philippines? Do you know a presbyterian church here in the Philippines? There is one Presbyterian church founded by the Koreans but I don't trust Koreans because they had created a lot of churches here in the Philippines that does not align with the teachings in the Bible.
That the second messiah will come spiritually even though he as been doing that for the last 2,000 years. Therefore, the second messiah must be born physically, on the earth, just like Jesus before.
0:41 EVERY PERSON ON EARTH is a person that - Believes CERTAIN THING - And Governs themselves IN CERTAIN WAYS if this the basic defintion of Presbyterian. You need a new definition. i also submit that you choose a shorter and less complex word to describe your religion LOL Unless spelling the word is a test in order to get to heaven
33,000 denominations!? The Protestant reformation added a lot heh? Prior to reformation was hand ful denominations! Domt bet me wrong the reformation had to happen,it got the Bible into every man’s hand!
5:44 NO..!!! I HAVE TO STRONGLY DISAGREE i grew up Serbian Orthodox We do not follow the whole Trinity thing, We just don't, it's not even a debate you can participate in, My life proves that this is a fact and every other serbian orthodox person that i have encountered No.. We believe in god We believe in christ there is THE FATHER there is THE SON there is THE HOLY SPIRIT THEY ARE NOT THE SAME ENTITY that is not what we are taught as kids we are taught, god is one thing We are taught jesus was completely separate So i won't speak for other religions, but for SERBIAN ORTHODOX specifically, Yeah, we don't do the trinity thing we dont' have a GOD the father (WELL, ACTUALLY WE HAVE THIS ONE) GOD The Son (No, we don't have that) GOD The Holy spirit (Nope, don't have that either) When we cross ourselves it goes like this U IME OCA (In the name of the Father) I SINA (AND the son) I SVETOGA DUHA (AND the holy ghost, or you can mean Holy spirit) AMIN (Amen) Notice we have an AND (I) TO US.. This clearly denotes... This AND this AND this AND THOSE THINGS ARE SEPARATE FROM EACH OTHER. when the word "I" Is used, it's a separation by it's liguistic nature. we don't do the trinity
thanks for this; i am a bit confused however because at least Wikipedia notes that the Serbian Orthodox Church is Trinitarian like all other Eastern Orthodox Churches. i would be interested if you could point me in the direction of information that could help me understand more fully. i am always open to learning.
@@johnjudson3466 LOL.... Sure, although what do you want ? Let me explain something as well. I'm 50 years old, i'm from a time when we LIVED LIFE today, Life (right or wrong) is recorded on wikipeadia BUT THE INTERNET MAKES MISTAKES. People don't seem to want to pay this any mind though Wiki has made mistakes (for example), Examples that i personally remember They called Sebastian Bach, Johnny Sollinger, they had a picture of Sebastian and the name was Johnny BIG MISTAKE They made mistakes as to how back in the rap and break era we used to call ourselves, they once said we were break boys, NO.. WE WERE B-BOYS and FLY GIRLS Now try to google the existence of that mistake and you won't find it . FUNNY THAT HUH ? what else.. Oh yeah... THE GENERATIONS. You know why Gen Y Think they are millennials , it's because someone on wiki put up a chart with the incorrect dates. they can argue as much as they want FACT IS... AT THE TIME My parents were the Baby Boomers My generation is GEN X the one that came after me was GEN Y (as a fact.. the name MILLENNIAL) did not exist at that time POINT IS...... I GO OFF MY MEMORIES if the internet agree's, ... Great if it doesn't... I don't care now to serbian orthodox religion. YOU WANT SOURCES LOL WHAT SOURCES Grow up Serbian Orthodox THERE'S YOUR SOURCE As kids who went to serbian school and were taught about our religion we learned to cross ourselves as we do, by joining 3 fingers, thumb , forefinger and middle finger , and we cross ourselves. we would say U IME OCA, I SINA, I SVETOGA DUHA AMIM which means IN THE NAME OF THE FATHER AND THE SON AND THE HOLY GHOST AMEN Whenever we went to church or parents or friends spoke about religion NO ONE !!!! EVER SAID God and Jesus are 1 NEVER !!!! We were always taught God is the father, he created everything. Jesus is his son that's what we grew up on THAT'S YOUR SOURCE ME MARTIN KULIZA and any other serbian person that grew up traditionally serbian No one ever said GOD THE FATHER GOD THE SON that would sound stupid IF WE SAID THAT you'd probably hear Jel si ti smotan, kakav bog a onda sin ? which means Are you fucked in the head, what do you mean God, but the son ? No, that was unheard of growing up GOD IS THE FATHER AND THE CREATOR JESUS IS HIS SON WHO CAME TO EARTH, WAS BORN IN HUMAN FLESH WHO DIED FOR OUR SINS WE DO NOT BELIEVE THAT GOD DIED FOR OUR SINS OUR RELIGION BELIEVES JESUS DIED FOR OUR SINS AND PAID GOD FROM HIS PURE SELF that's the basics of it but no, we do not follow the trinity. Our minister never taught that... ever !! the best source i can give you is the source of thousands of serbian people growing up serbian and telling you what we were all taught growing up ON THIS SUBJECT i couldn't care less what Wiki says Primarily because the internet is american in the first place I trust how i grew up now what a site on the internet is going to tell me how i grew up Nor can i be challenged on this point because if anyone disagree's (no offense), You're wrong it's like trying to tell me, when i was young, i didn't own a BMX Bike I don't care what source says it, I owned a BMX Bike and nothing can say i didn't You can't grow up serbian, Live the life then have the internet tell you. No... Serbian people are trinitarian LOL NO... WE'RE NOT I've NEVER heard a single serbian person in my life say to me that they believed that jesus is GOD THE SON that has never happened You'd be laughed at
GRACE Alone FAITH Alone SCRIPTURE Alone CHRIST Alone I realize this is a video JUST STATING WHAT YOU BELIEVE and whether that was god or the jolly green giant, it's irrelevant, it's what you believe, Nor am i trying to change it. But here a few OBVIOUS Issues that i see had you said your faith was based on GRACE FAITH SCRIPTURE CHRIST that would be ok But you put the word "ALONE" behind each, You can't do that, Because the fact there is more than 1 thing nullifies that it's alone Secondly, God didn't raise christ for 2 reasons 1. Christ didn't die, His body did 2. Christ is capable of raising himself the story goes Jesus was crucified AND 3 day later HE ROSE FROM THE DEAD. This is to imply that HE DID THE MIRACLE, not god Jesus and god share the same power as well, so there would be no need for god to raise jesus. another thing i want to point out is You said THERE IS NOTHING WE CAN DO OR SAY that can cause us to be saved I AGREE WITH YOU. and yet, so many christians run around saying.. WE ARE SAVED LOL.... it's funny isn't it but here is a problem with what you said then.....FAITH ALONE You literally just said, there is NOTHING WE CAN DO to cause us to be saved but.. WE CAN DO FAITH so.. there's another issue Now Scripture alone HERE IS A BIG ISSUE I take it you mean THE BIBLE lol well.. the bible isn't god's word, this is absolutely the easiest thing in the world to prove, Ask if you're not sure This is on the same level as when you said, Orthodox believe in trinity. and i said Serbian Orthodox do not it is SO FUNDAMENTALLY TRUE that you can try to debate it, of course your opinion is respected, but if you disagree, you are wrong Just like the bible, if you think it's god's word, you are wrong. NOTE : this has nothing to do with god's actual word, or god or christ or religion or your belief, it's just one simple thing THAT BOOK........ IS NOT GOD'S WORD, that's all i'm saying so... Following it is to follow a word that is not god's word that is therefore a sin against god that also will then in turn not get you into heaven BUT... YOU SAID FAITH ALONE gets you into heaven by GRACE ok, that works so you then don't need to read the bible but if you're now saying that SCRIPTURE ALONE means you need to read it YOU GUYS NEED TO REALLY LOOK AT YOUR BOOK, Because then.. The religion is basically saying to the person IF YOU ARE PRESBYTERIAN YOU MUST READ AND FOLLOW THIS BOOK THAT WILL GET YOU SENT TO HELL That now makes the religion have problems this is what i see wrong with this section
What is a presbyterian?? its another Christian denomination that fails to rightly divide the truth!! following doctrine for Israel and rejecting the new message for and of the body of christ revealed to and through Paul only , after acts 9
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This was very helpful to me - thank you🙏
You do a wonderful job representing us! Thank you!
well dobe thanks
Thank you, my husband and just joined a PC USA church and this helps a lot.
Excellent Overview/Introduction to Abrahamic belief systems & Presbyterianism. 👍🏼
Nice one. Thank you so much for the exposition
Thanks for teaching/let me know for the Presbyterian Basic Beliefs?
Thanks for sharing
Thank you Sir.
0:04 I Grabbed my cup of coffee and some Swiss Chocolate
LOL
What presbyterian church do you belong sir? I heard there are several types of presbyterian church. Evangelical, Liberal and Orthodox.
What presbyterian church can you recommend me to join here in the Philippines? Do you know a presbyterian church here in the Philippines? There is one Presbyterian church founded by the Koreans but I don't trust Koreans because they had created a lot of churches here in the Philippines that does not align with the teachings in the Bible.
let me do some research and i will get back to you...where do you live there?
Greetings from Presbyterian Church of India
I am in the Presbyterian Church USA. I am not sure about the Philippines. And Koreans have founded many denominations. Sorry
That the second messiah will come spiritually even though he as been doing that for the last 2,000 years. Therefore, the second messiah must be born physically, on the earth, just like Jesus before.
0:41
EVERY PERSON ON EARTH is a person that
- Believes CERTAIN THING
- And Governs themselves IN CERTAIN WAYS
if this the basic defintion of Presbyterian. You need a new definition.
i also submit that you choose a shorter and less complex word to describe your religion
LOL
Unless spelling the word is a test in order to get to heaven
33,000 denominations!? The Protestant reformation added a lot heh?
Prior to reformation was hand ful denominations!
Domt bet me wrong the reformation had to happen,it got the Bible into every man’s hand!
Caused by the brutality of the church
5:44 NO..!!! I HAVE TO STRONGLY DISAGREE
i grew up Serbian Orthodox
We do not follow the whole Trinity thing, We just don't, it's not even a debate you can participate in,
My life proves that this is a fact and every other serbian orthodox person that i have encountered
No..
We believe in god
We believe in christ
there is THE FATHER
there is THE SON
there is THE HOLY SPIRIT
THEY ARE NOT THE SAME ENTITY
that is not what we are taught as kids
we are taught, god is one thing
We are taught jesus was completely separate
So i won't speak for other religions, but for SERBIAN ORTHODOX specifically, Yeah, we don't do the trinity thing
we dont' have a
GOD the father (WELL, ACTUALLY WE HAVE THIS ONE)
GOD The Son (No, we don't have that)
GOD The Holy spirit (Nope, don't have that either)
When we cross ourselves it goes like this
U IME OCA (In the name of the Father)
I SINA (AND the son)
I SVETOGA DUHA (AND the holy ghost, or you can mean Holy spirit)
AMIN (Amen)
Notice we have an AND (I)
TO US.. This clearly denotes... This AND this AND this AND THOSE THINGS ARE SEPARATE FROM EACH OTHER.
when the word "I" Is used, it's a separation by it's liguistic nature.
we don't do the trinity
thanks for this; i am a bit confused however because at least Wikipedia notes that the Serbian Orthodox Church is Trinitarian like all other Eastern Orthodox Churches. i would be interested if you could point me in the direction of information that could help me understand more fully. i am always open to learning.
@@johnjudson3466
LOL....
Sure, although what do you want ?
Let me explain something as well.
I'm 50 years old, i'm from a time when we LIVED LIFE
today, Life (right or wrong) is recorded on wikipeadia
BUT THE INTERNET MAKES MISTAKES.
People don't seem to want to pay this any mind though
Wiki has made mistakes (for example), Examples that i personally remember
They called Sebastian Bach, Johnny Sollinger, they had a picture of Sebastian and the name was Johnny
BIG MISTAKE
They made mistakes as to how back in the rap and break era we used to call ourselves, they once said we were break boys, NO.. WE WERE B-BOYS and FLY GIRLS
Now try to google the existence of that mistake and you won't find it .
FUNNY THAT HUH ?
what else.. Oh yeah... THE GENERATIONS.
You know why Gen Y Think they are millennials , it's because someone on wiki put up a chart with the incorrect dates.
they can argue as much as they want
FACT IS...
AT THE TIME
My parents were the Baby Boomers
My generation is GEN X
the one that came after me was GEN Y
(as a fact.. the name MILLENNIAL) did not exist at that time
POINT IS......
I GO OFF MY MEMORIES
if the internet agree's, ... Great
if it doesn't... I don't care
now to serbian orthodox religion.
YOU WANT SOURCES LOL
WHAT SOURCES
Grow up Serbian Orthodox
THERE'S YOUR SOURCE
As kids who went to serbian school
and were taught about our religion
we learned to cross ourselves as we do, by joining 3 fingers, thumb , forefinger and middle finger , and we cross ourselves.
we would say
U IME OCA,
I SINA,
I SVETOGA DUHA
AMIM
which means
IN THE NAME OF THE FATHER
AND THE SON
AND THE HOLY GHOST
AMEN
Whenever we went to church or parents or friends spoke about religion
NO ONE !!!! EVER SAID
God and Jesus are 1
NEVER !!!!
We were always taught
God is the father, he created everything.
Jesus is his son
that's what we grew up on
THAT'S YOUR SOURCE
ME
MARTIN KULIZA
and any other serbian person that grew up traditionally serbian
No one ever said
GOD THE FATHER
GOD THE SON
that would sound stupid
IF WE SAID THAT
you'd probably hear
Jel si ti smotan, kakav bog a onda sin ?
which means
Are you fucked in the head,
what do you mean God, but the son ?
No, that was unheard of growing up
GOD IS THE FATHER AND THE CREATOR
JESUS IS HIS SON WHO CAME TO EARTH, WAS BORN IN HUMAN FLESH
WHO DIED FOR OUR SINS
WE DO NOT BELIEVE THAT GOD DIED FOR OUR SINS
OUR RELIGION BELIEVES JESUS DIED FOR OUR SINS AND PAID GOD FROM HIS PURE SELF
that's the basics of it
but no, we do not follow the trinity.
Our minister never taught that... ever !!
the best source i can give you is the source of thousands of serbian people growing up serbian and telling you what we were all taught growing up
ON THIS SUBJECT
i couldn't care less what Wiki says
Primarily because the internet is american in the first place
I trust how i grew up
now what a site on the internet is going to tell me how i grew up
Nor can i be challenged on this point
because if anyone disagree's (no offense), You're wrong
it's like trying to tell me, when i was young, i didn't own a BMX Bike
I don't care what source says it,
I owned a BMX Bike and nothing can say i didn't
You can't grow up serbian, Live the life then have the internet tell you.
No... Serbian people are trinitarian
LOL
NO... WE'RE NOT
I've NEVER heard a single serbian person in my life say to me that they believed that jesus is GOD THE SON
that has never happened
You'd be laughed at
GRACE Alone
FAITH Alone
SCRIPTURE Alone
CHRIST Alone
I realize this is a video JUST STATING WHAT YOU BELIEVE and whether that was god or the jolly green giant, it's irrelevant, it's what you believe, Nor am i trying to change it.
But here a few OBVIOUS Issues that i see
had you said your faith was based on
GRACE
FAITH
SCRIPTURE
CHRIST
that would be ok
But you put the word "ALONE" behind each,
You can't do that, Because the fact there is more than 1 thing nullifies that it's alone
Secondly, God didn't raise christ for 2 reasons
1. Christ didn't die, His body did
2. Christ is capable of raising himself
the story goes
Jesus was crucified AND 3 day later HE ROSE FROM THE DEAD.
This is to imply that HE DID THE MIRACLE, not god
Jesus and god share the same power as well, so there would be no need for god to raise jesus.
another thing i want to point out is
You said THERE IS NOTHING WE CAN DO OR SAY that can cause us to be saved
I AGREE WITH YOU.
and yet, so many christians run around saying.. WE ARE SAVED LOL.... it's funny isn't it
but here is a problem with what you said
then.....FAITH ALONE
You literally just said, there is NOTHING WE CAN DO to cause us to be saved
but.. WE CAN DO FAITH
so.. there's another issue
Now Scripture alone
HERE IS A BIG ISSUE
I take it you mean THE BIBLE
lol
well.. the bible isn't god's word, this is absolutely the easiest thing in the world to prove,
Ask if you're not sure
This is on the same level as when you said, Orthodox believe in trinity.
and i said Serbian Orthodox do not
it is SO FUNDAMENTALLY TRUE that you can try to debate it, of course your opinion is respected,
but if you disagree, you are wrong
Just like the bible, if you think it's god's word, you are wrong.
NOTE : this has nothing to do with god's actual word, or god or christ or religion or your belief,
it's just one simple thing
THAT BOOK........ IS NOT GOD'S WORD,
that's all i'm saying
so... Following it is to follow a word that is not god's word
that is therefore a sin against god
that also will then in turn not get you into heaven
BUT... YOU SAID
FAITH ALONE gets you into heaven by GRACE
ok, that works
so you then don't need to read the bible
but if you're now saying that
SCRIPTURE ALONE means you need to read it
YOU GUYS NEED TO REALLY LOOK AT YOUR BOOK, Because then.. The religion is basically saying to the person
IF YOU ARE PRESBYTERIAN YOU MUST READ AND FOLLOW THIS BOOK THAT WILL GET YOU SENT TO HELL
That now makes the religion have problems
this is what i see wrong with this section
What is a presbyterian?? its another Christian denomination that fails to rightly divide the truth!! following doctrine for Israel and rejecting the new message for and of the body of christ revealed to and through Paul only , after acts 9