Hey kali, I think you should contact the manufacturer about that. But, if there's an option to export as some kind of text file, then almost definitely yes. This might help: www.sounddesignlive.com/single-channel-rta-targets-to-improve-your-mixes/
Hi, when doing the target trace for multiple matrix line, do you do each matrix line at a time? For example, my left and right running matrix 1&2, my mid fill running matrix3, if i do trace target for my left and right, then when i turn on my mid fill the trace target for L&R will be affected. Do you suggest to turn mid fill on while doing trace target for my L&R? If i turn mid fill on when doing trace target for L&R then when doing trace target for mid fill it will affect my previous setting for the L&R right. Can you please suggest what can i do for this case. Thanks in advance.
Hi phutran. Every source needs verification, aim, placement, EQ, and crossover alignment solo and combined. For example, to be complete, you would calibrate each element of your mid-fill array, then calibrate it as a unit, then calibrate it combined with other systems.
Hi Nathan, just wondering if that target trace was used for live sound check under pink noise? Do you use weight Z measurement (flat) to do the live sound measurement reaching that target trace? Thanks
Hi Phu! > that target trace was used for live sound check under pink noise? I typically use audio analyzers that are source independent. I can use music, pink noise, or anything else and it will deliver the same data. That being said, I usually use a combination of pink and brown noise and music. :) > Do you use weight Z measurement Yes
Hi Nathan, interesting video. Do you propose to set the system tuning standard to your target trace? All other videos are about creating a blank canvas by tuning the system to ' flat' and only correcting venue sound problems.
Hey Jeroen, thanks for checking out the video. > Do you propose to set the system tuning standard to your target trace? No, not at all. In fact, if possible, I suggest EQing your first main system with reference tracks by ear, then using a measurement of that as your target. I have found the general targets I'm using now to be helpful specifically for Smaart with its multiple time records. If a speaker is well behaved at 1m, it will have this kind of tilt once you get 20m into the room. Another way to go about it is to look at the final measurement of combined systems from your last shows and develop a target trace from that, system brand/model dependent if possible. > by tuning the system to ' flat' Did I say that? I hope not. If so, it may have been a mistake. The audio analyzer is great at helping you find "same", but I avoid promoting "flat".
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Hi Blonchay123, please see pg. 86 of the Smaart User Guide. Target curves cannot be grabbed or moved up and down on the graph as live measurement and static data traces can. They move up or down automatically to accommodate changes in banding resolution, but otherwise their position is fixed. They do not appear in the graph legend and the cursor readout ignores them. Target curves are not displayed on un-banded (narrowband) spectrum displays or transfer function graphs. However, if you need a target curve for a narrowband RTA or transfer function graph, you can make one pretty easily by importing data from a text file as a regular data trace, using the Import ASCII function (see Import ASCII on page 83).
No, it works for single measurements as well, but watch out for the transitions zones. Depending on your distance and whether you are indoors, it should be adjusted. I discuss this more in-depth in Master Your Craft, but this image summarizes it - postimg.cc/5QvNdrm5
@@nathanlively Hi, do you use the flat weighted curve to match with your target trace? Or do you use A type weighted curve to match with the target trace? I find the A type weighted curve gives me too much bass. Thanks
yeah i second that, love your video and content but the mic is picking up the mouse click louder than your voice and it makes me want to stop watching bc it hurts my ears. to be clear I WANT To KEEP LISTENING;) so please work on mic placement or mic choice that will reduce or eliminate that. please and thank you!
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hey Nathan hope all is well, greetings from Trinidad I usually use the m noise trace as my target to mix an the results are amazing.
That's great. Glad you have found something that works for you. Although, m-noise is not a target. It's a measurement procedure to find max spl.
oh ok well I'll have to get a new target.@@nathanlively
Really good Smaart toturials Nathan! Thanks alot
Glad you like them!
Hey Nathan, is there a way to take the trace files from something like tonal balance controll 2 , and import it to smaart ?
Hey kali, I think you should contact the manufacturer about that. But, if there's an option to export as some kind of text file, then almost definitely yes. This might help: www.sounddesignlive.com/single-channel-rta-targets-to-improve-your-mixes/
Hi, when doing the target trace for multiple matrix line, do you do each matrix line at a time? For example, my left and right running matrix 1&2, my mid fill running matrix3, if i do trace target for my left and right, then when i turn on my mid fill the trace target for L&R will be affected. Do you suggest to turn mid fill on while doing trace target for my L&R? If i turn mid fill on when doing trace target for L&R then when doing trace target for mid fill it will affect my previous setting for the L&R right. Can you please suggest what can i do for this case. Thanks in advance.
Hi phutran. Every source needs verification, aim, placement, EQ, and crossover alignment solo and combined. For example, to be complete, you would calibrate each element of your mid-fill array, then calibrate it as a unit, then calibrate it combined with other systems.
Hi Nathan, just wondering if that target trace was used for live sound check under pink noise? Do you use weight Z measurement (flat) to do the live sound measurement reaching that target trace? Thanks
Hi Phu!
> that target trace was used for live sound check under pink noise?
I typically use audio analyzers that are source independent. I can use music, pink noise, or anything else and it will deliver the same data. That being said, I usually use a combination of pink and brown noise and music. :)
> Do you use weight Z measurement
Yes
Hi Nathan, interesting video. Do you propose to set the system tuning standard to your target trace?
All other videos are about creating a blank canvas by tuning the system to ' flat' and only correcting venue sound problems.
Hey Jeroen, thanks for checking out the video.
> Do you propose to set the system tuning standard to your target trace?
No, not at all. In fact, if possible, I suggest EQing your first main system with reference tracks by ear, then using a measurement of that as your target. I have found the general targets I'm using now to be helpful specifically for Smaart with its multiple time records. If a speaker is well behaved at 1m, it will have this kind of tilt once you get 20m into the room.
Another way to go about it is to look at the final measurement of combined systems from your last shows and develop a target trace from that, system brand/model dependent if possible.
> by tuning the system to ' flat'
Did I say that? I hope not. If so, it may have been a mistake. The audio analyzer is great at helping you find "same", but I avoid promoting "flat".
you probably dont give a damn but does anybody know a trick to log back into an instagram account..?
I was dumb forgot the password. I appreciate any tricks you can give me!
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@Harper Karsyn i really appreciate your reply. I got to the site thru google and Im in the hacking process now.
Seems to take a while so I will get back to you later when my account password hopefully is recovered.
@Harper Karsyn It did the trick and I actually got access to my account again. I am so happy!
Thank you so much, you really help me out !
should i match this target curves with pink noise as reference?
Hey Nebojsa, you can use whatever test signal you like, even music. That's what's so great about the transfer function.
@@nathanlively If you use music trying to match your target curve, would you have to use the transfer function? or spectrum mode would work too?
Cant get the target trace to appear in spectrum mode you in V7 or V8
Hmm, what happens when you open up Options > Target Curves? Do you see it listed there?
@@nathanlively same.. there is no "target curves" in the "options" window :(
How do you move the smaart stock target trace down to your measurements? Or do you have to bring the measurements up to the trace?
Hi Blonchay123, please see pg. 86 of the Smaart User Guide.
Target curves cannot be grabbed or moved up and down on the graph as live measurement and static data traces can. They move up or down automatically to accommodate changes in banding resolution, but otherwise their position is fixed. They do not appear in the graph legend and the cursor readout ignores them. Target curves are not displayed on un-banded (narrowband) spectrum displays or transfer function graphs. However, if you need a target curve for a narrowband RTA or transfer function graph, you can make one pretty easily by importing data from a text file as a regular data trace, using the Import ASCII function (see Import ASCII on page 83).
I've been doing this for edm shows, i didn't know it was actually a thing lol. +12db at 40 hz a thing know
Oh wow, I only know about this 2nd hand. Glad to hear it confirmed. :)
once i done my target trace how do i turn of the target trace?
You mean hide it? Just click on its icon next to the name or command + shift + H
Hi Nathan,
I have a question about your new target trace.
It's work only when you make average right ?
Thx
No, it works for single measurements as well, but watch out for the transitions zones. Depending on your distance and whether you are indoors, it should be adjusted.
I discuss this more in-depth in Master Your Craft, but this image summarizes it - postimg.cc/5QvNdrm5
Please how do I save the target trace so when I press X I see it on Smaart
Hey Enoch, you have to be in Spectrum view, then navigate up to the top with the arrow keys.
I want konw should i EQ my system like this target trace ,its really usefull?
Maybe? No one trace will work for all situations. Start with mine. See if it gets you in the right ball park, then adjust.
@@nathanlively Hi, do you use the flat weighted curve to match with your target trace? Or do you use A type weighted curve to match with the target trace? I find the A type weighted curve gives me too much bass. Thanks
So basically the Standard L'acoustics sound
Share windows smaart file
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@@nathanlively
Trace track file combo windows smaart
The clicking of the mouse is loud and nerve-racking. 😢
yeah i second that, love your video and content but the mic is picking up the mouse click louder than your voice and it makes me want to stop watching bc it hurts my ears. to be clear I WANT To KEEP LISTENING;) so please work on mic placement or mic choice that will reduce or eliminate that. please and thank you!
Nathan Clicky 😆