Venomfang and Thundertree | Lost Mine of Phandelver Dungeon Master Guide Pt. 5 | Dungeons & Dragons
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- Опубліковано 17 жов 2024
- In this Lost Mine of Phandelver DM Guide we help new Dungeon Masters run Venomfang, the Green Dragon inhabiting the village of Thundertree. The purpose of this episode is to guide you as that Dungeon Master on how to Roleplay and Run this part of the Lost Mine of Phandelver Adventure. This episode will cover alternative ways to run Venomfang so that your newbie adventurers don't immediately die by the Green Dragon's hand, as well as the rest of major landmarks in Thundertree and the main outcomes of this plot thread in the adventure. Enjoy and stay tuned for more guides on the Lost Mine of Phandelver in the future!
In Part III of the adventure, there are a number of side quests to be explored and we want to know which one you want to see next! Encountering Venomfang and Thundertree were the first to win! Which one do you want to learn about next? Comment below!
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Today we have a Dungeons and Dragons guide to running Venomfang in the Lost Mine of Phandelver. We at the Blue Collar DM also play live games, not too dissimilar from Critical Role, and we also have RPG stories that are full of comedic funny business. Join us live in our Dungeons and Dragons online tabletop role playing game played on virtual tabletop Thursday's at 8:30pm EST on Twitch, UA-cam, and Facebook!
My favorite moment from playing LMoP was when our kobold sorcerer persuaded the cultists that Venomfang sent him to gather tribute. He then took the 3 diamonds they have and negotiated with Venomfang to leave if we cleared out Cragmaw Castle for him. He then went back to the cultists and convinced them that Venomfang wanted them to clear out Cragmaw for him. (He kept rolling pretty high on his checks) So the rest of the party followed behind out of sight while the kobold led the cultist to the castle, he boldly led them inside to the barracks and shrine before the goblins decided to attack. Then being trapped there with his small size he slipped out one of the arrow slits, leaving the cultists as a doomed distraction. While that was going on the rest of us went in through the southern door.
My players first butchered the cultists then disguised one of them and an invisible servant and drew the ash zombies in the nearest houses to Venomfang lair in the tower. Since the zombies are immune to its poison breath, it had to fight them, receiving damages in the process. The party attacked when the last zombie was destroyed and slayed the dragon which had about 2/3 of it hit points. I found their idea so clever that I had the dragon fight to the death :)
Gotta love when the players use the environment and their creativity!
Glad to see you add something to guide outside of the book with Venomfang.
You’re very welcome!
A hott guy explaining D&D!!! Im DM'ing this part tonight and so hope my party does not attack Venomfang :D
😅😅😅 thanks!
You can also play with their expectations a bit and disguise them as a sweet old woman (hag) and then if the party end up thinking they have the upper hand in their conversations with them, surprise, dragon. Lol
So many fun ways to tinker with this encounter!
I've used this dragon cult to connect phandelver into the Red Hand of Doom.
Venomfang doesn't need to be nurfed. He exists to teach new players that D&D is not a video game, you can be out matched. It's not a nice linier progression. You have to make decisions that can get you killed. You have to think of none martial ways to deal with problems.
Venomfang was adapted into our whole campaigns BBEG and worked out a lot better than the generic one in the book.
Very cool option. How did you have him/her take over in place of the Black Spider?
@@BlueCollarDM the final room was replaced with a pathway that lead up to the new open air nest of Venomfang and used the black spider as one of venomfangs aliases. Turns out he was working for another guy in waterdeep. That lead the party to the city and the next home brewed chapter of the story.
@@RichMerry I love it! A really creative way to include both in the adventure. Did you change/do anything different with Thundertree?
My party is currently deciding the best way to deal with the dragon and cult, and these ideas are really useful! I expect my party to fight, but they always do what I don't expect so these other ideas are great!
I’ve used Venomfang as the terrifying dragon he is! I did not hold back and ended up taking out a few characters plus poor Droop who they brought along. The remaining party members drove the dragon off and the Druid felt bad enough that he REINCARNATED the fallen party members. What followed was some of the best roleplaying this party had ever done. Although one power builder was not happy with the new race and pretty much quit even though I was going to give them a way to fix their races in Wave Echo Cave if they so desired.
Hehe. I like the possibilities of VenomFang. My party never made it there. Another thing could be that it has chameleon like properties since its green and foresty and he can hide and trick and terrorize the players. Love the idea of a hostage player. It's sure to make the party fidget.
Absolutely it could! Especially if you want this dragon included for the situation when the players don’t go to Thundertree!
I remember fighting Venom Fang for the first time. We didn't exactly know how the recharge works and thought you could just use it every turn.
Whoops! That makes him 10x worse! Eek! Run away!
Thank you this is really helpful and I feel ready to start the game
Your videos are so good!
Helpful, thank y ou.
You’re welcome Ron! Glad you found it helpful! Cannot wait to cover the next piece of LMOP! We’re almost to Wave Echo Cave!
I look forward to it.
My group has came across him yet, but all dragons love loyal minions who do looting for them. So I planning on having him charge 10% of any loot the group finds as tribute to him. But it going to depend on how many show up at the Adventure League table.
This is true and a great way to introduce minions and manipulation that dragons love to use.
I have a very very simple fix for Venomfang, just make him a Wyrmling instead of a Young Dragon and he should be a dificult but completely doable fight.
As far as I’m concerned reidolth has a purpose already which is the defense of the natural cycle. His stationing in thundertree speaks to someone willing to protect the blights while hoping to slowly rid the area of undead without upsetting the ecosystem that has built itself up in town. That’s plenty of purpose not every single thing in the campaign needs a 5 step plan and thundertree as an encounter is already such a major jump from the other side quests, anytime you just throw a dragon in the mix it risks realigning your entire campaign, it’s immediately the largest threat in the module (nezznar kinda sucks) making reidolth hyper morally complex with. 12 step plan for the region just crowds everything imo
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Venomfang can be super dangerous. How do you fix this dragon for your low level adventurers? #dungeonsanddragons #dungeonmaster
He's dangerous and all but, what about owlbear tower?
Can you do wave echo cave
Of course! I’m still working on wyvern tor but wave echo is on the list!