Stihl MS 170 Chainsaw Bar And Chain Problems ? Will It run ? Let's Help The Poor Thing!
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- Опубліковано 4 лют 2025
- This innocent, little Stihl MS170 Chainsaw was dropped off at my shop in a sad state.
The MS 170 is a 30CC homeowner grade, limbing saw.
The MS170 replaced the Stihl 017.
The MS170 has now been replaced with the Stihl MS162.
The customer is NOT interested in spending much money on it.
Can we help it live to see another day, on a tight budget ? ? Come along and let's find out!
If you enjoy chainsaw repair content - you have come to the right place!
I'm not partial to any one brand - but I am a Stihl dealer - so I mainly see Stihl equipment.
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For your Stihl MS170 side tensioner - order part number 1123 007 1000 from your Stihl dealer. They are around $25.00 in CAD pricing.
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Looks like it wasn’t the bar holder that was the problem but the chainsaw holder😂 thanks for the peep into you n your hubby’s recreational life. Another great start to my day❤🇦🇺
I am a little surprised that the saw could leave the shop without replacing the spark arrestor screen. I do sense some frustration as to the neglect of the machine. Inside the cylinder looked pretty good for the ingested dirt. Tough machine. Carry on.
Canadians are always proud of what we do!! Love the intro Erika keep doing what you’re doing!!!🇨🇦🫡🙏🏻 number one TEAM. 👍’s up!
Thank you!!!! I
Another fun video ! A previous one, showing the broken spark plug tip, gave me the impetus to replace the spark plugs on my two older saws. Thx!
Lol, sucked more dirt than my Dyson vacuum cleaner!!! I could tell you were getting aggravated and felt sorry for this little saw. Another fantastic video... keep up the good work!
I appreciate you and your videos. Im just a homeowner in Los Angeles California. You have taught me to respect my machines and learn how to maintain, use, and store my machines. You, Steves saloon, chicanic, Donyboy are all great and i thank you for your help!
Can't say it enough, you do a fantastic job! Thank you! Those folks up there are lucky to have y'all working on their equipment.
Wow, thank you!
Great idea asking for a deposit upfront
I’m learning a lot watching your channel. After watching one of the videos I pulled out a recent auction purchased McCulloch 2.0 saw and gave it the evaluation. Fuel tank was dry, bar oil tank was full of nasty old 40:1. I remedied that, cleaned the air filter, and mixed some 40:1 fresh. Surprisingly it coughed, then it ran a few seconds, and finally I got it to stay running at idle. I think the diaphragms are dry, but I remember Chickanic advised to let it run to see if they soften up. I managed to get it to rev up and go back to idle w/o stalling. So I took it outside to test. Dull dull dull. I remember you saying a dull chain is the fastest way to ruin a saw. So I stopped it and ordered a new chain, it will be here Friday. Thanks to your help, this 1988 McCulloch might cut a tree again. Thank you for quality content!!
A fellow down the road from me gave me a free Mac 3214. All it needed was new fuel lines, a fuel filter and a new ($12) amazon carb. The saw runs great and is one of my best "saved from the landfill" chainsaws. I've got a several Macs and they all cut well.
I am not a fan of paperwork but maybe have a checklist tag when a saw comes in. When did it last run ? What is wrong with it ? Maybe show what the problem is .
Who worked on it last ? What service was done?
Would you like full service as well? Air filter new plug fuel filter cleaning .
I would also include in repair air filter and cleaning on all service
Us men are an easy bunch just tell it like it is eventually we will get it
I like your videos. These are great for guys like me who never had a father figure to teach us these things. I just went out and dinked around with my little MS 170 for a couple hours. it's been road hard and put away wet. only run a few tanks of gas a year out of it though. I've been known to break things easy so just for kicks, I checked the spark arrester, plug, fuel and air filters, took a look inside the cylinder and piston on the exhaust side. and cleaned most of the gunk and crap out of it and dumped all the old dirty gas out. everything looked pretty decent. eventually want to get a tune up kit for it. want to get a bigger one but not sure what to get. leaning towards a 271-farm boss with 20" bar.
You have really impressive diagnostic ability. Also you know your clientele very well. I very much appreciate your diagnostic methods.
Your videos are so addictive, the way you introduce what your going to show us in the video, the way you work out problems and the way you show us the fixes, even the way you pour out the old fuel, you make it look so simple and of course its far from that. Huge thank you! PS loved the racing!
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This is one of my favorite toys saws ever made. Sure sucks Stihl is icing these outta the line up.
As I watch your accurate, helpful tutorials I'm amazed at the total disregard for basic maintenance. If Stihl saws were throw away types might understand but they are pricey. In heavy equipment don't see this as much, yes don't care types are more prevalent of late. I'll keep it civil.
I like that you don’t sugar coat stuff.
People buy chainsaws and don’t know how to sharpen the chain or mix fuel, tighten chain, or do any maintenance. Let alone how to use it.
This generation can’t take any criticism or they will cry like a baby.
Can’t learn if you don’t want to hear what they did wrong.
Tell it it how it is. Man up or woman up for crying out loud.
I appreciate your knowledge, presentation style and practicality!
Enjoyed your video thanks for sharing.cheers
Happy Monday Erika.
My guess is the Rocket Scientist who left the note of a broken bar holder stuck a screwdriver in the empty hole on the side cover and attempted to adjust the chain tension from there instead of the front of the saw. Let me know when you talk to the customer. If this is true you should definitely sell him a kit to move the adjuster!!
Thanks for the videos.
I thought the same
Thats my guess too.
I agree guys
Saw runs great, I find it interesting when you dig in to the repair and get to the issue 😊
I’ve heard people call the chain brake a guard, perhaps the chain brake engaged and he thought the “bar holder” was broken! Anymore lawn mower racing video? That looks like fun
Looked like the chain tensioner was full back, if the pin was behind the bar and the cover put on….. it would have not been able to push the bar forward to properly tension 😎. Rookie mistake 😂
You have sold me on the MS170's. I always thought they were worthless junk, but obviously are quite tough.
Tough little beasts!
Let us know what the customer thought was the issue.
My favorite MS170 repair was when a customer brought me one with gas in the bar oil tank and bar oil in the gas tank. For some reason he couldn't get it to start 😉
Ya don't have to " but it helps".
I would think people who don’t know much about chainsaw should read their manual book or at least UA-cam it.
Love watching all of your videos along with others i watch. Love to learn and watch. It teaches me on mine of course i happen own poulan pro
Dudette this video rocked especially the first 4 minutes.
Thank you for making this content and sharing it with us
I bought a 170 5 years ago and didnt expect much but it has been a great little saw. If I could buy another I would.
Thank you for sharing your insights on customer behavior and explaining how your shop protects against subpar equipment or customers that may be playing you a bit.
Need any more help?
I’m guessing the owner bought it secondhand or had the saw given to him. He can see the hole in the clutch cover, where he could tension the chain, if the saw was fitted with the adaption kit. But he doesn’t realise, that as is, he can’t tension the chain from the side and is assuming the tensioner is broken.
Yes to the deposit...and YES to the side adjuster...one of the first mods I made to mine...that screw in the front is a real numb idea.
Cheers from NB
You know winter is coming to Wisconsin, when you see Canadians wearing jackets... LOL.
It’s getting chilly here!
Woodstove is running again!
Let me say that I love your videos and content. Good job and keep them coming.
Those are pretty tough saws for sure. Thanks!
The start was in such a beautiful area, your lucky !!
I have one of these from new and while the front tensioners work they're an ergonomic curse. After a few years I asked my local Stihl dealer for the spikes and side tensioner. Luckly I had the part numbers because at first they didn't believe that it was possible. They started believing after the installation happened on their own front counter!
Thanks for another video! You are very good at what you are doing.
I appreciate that!
Another awesome video, thank you
Much more fun than F1😅
Given no helpful information you did a methodical assessment and probably saved the machine. Focus on the people who appreciate your service. Stay positive. You’re a great mechanic!
Thank you!!
- Did you fix the broken bar holder?
- Yep, it's all fixed.
🤣🤣🤣
When someone brings in a low $ saw, running condition unknown, why do you not try to start it before doing the time consuming diagnostics?
I agree with deposits! 100%
You're very good at your job wish you would smile sometimes You're very pretty to wish you were closer we need a good person here❤
I will try to crack a smile once in a while :)
Well now this is a interesting video and I have been enjoying all of your repair videos. I can't believe that anyone would run an air filter to the point of being that dirty and allowing dirt to bypass it and go right into your motor. I will say one thing that is a piss-poor excuse for a filter. There's no way that sthil could have put a cheaper looking filter on a chainsaw.
Another case of seeing how much the little MS 170 can take and keep going, like they used to say about the Timex watch,takes a lickin and keeps tickin somehow
The Tractor race looked like fun!!!!! MS170 is about $249 now. Still a very good deal . I put some of my award winning stuff on the wall in my little shop, for fun. LOL
I love MS170’s! I’m sad they are discontinued.
Good thing I packed two new ones away for a rainy day.
Thanks for watching Bruce!! How’s the weather out there?
@@marriedwithsmallengines It has been perfect but we are seing changes over the next few days. One more nice saturday to come. Thanks
Maybe after he got the new bar and chain he didn't know how to set up the tensioner like he's supposed to? The sprocket looked a little warn
Nice waking up and finding a new video uploaded, get my coffee and the cat comes up and we watch you together then i shake my head and think WTF, how can people actually let their machinery run down so much. Good for you thou $$$ and us to watch but seriously?
Glad you and your cat enjoy! ☺️
1 hour diagnostic is the minimum. I found the verbiage does make a difference. Diagnostic imparts there is knowledge, competency, value. Deposit imparts you are taking their money and will find a reason to keep it later. Deposit implies trust challenges from both parties. People that blalk at paying diag can go on down the road.
That machine was running rich. Could be the air filter. The spark arrestor was removed for a reason, probably because it was running rich for so long. 32:08 It sounded like it still needed a slight carb adjustment. Took it a while to finally transition into the high speed circuit. Exhaust was a touch smokey on the low side. You run you chains a touch tighter than I. Will it make a difference? Nope. Were just cutting tree carcasses.
So much GOOD information
Glad you liked it!
Love the videos, your personality is becoming more evident! 👍🏼👍🏼
Glad you like them!
It looks like the owner knows nothing about the chain tensioner and probably didn’t have it engaged in the bar so the chain slacked off in use. It’s amazing how little some people know about their tools and are unwilling to learn.
that clutch cover looked like mine before I cleaned it earlier. ha-ha
i enjoy your videos a great deal thank you for making them
Drove right past the fair this weekend. Now i wished i stopped in 😊
Hello
Unbelievable with what customers you have to deal with.Thats a complete other story what i thought.Customers who use a chainsaw and no nothing about it, thats a Nogo for me.I dont understand this?
Glad that you are there for them and teach them a lesson whats to do.
Thank you for your videos, i learnt a lot about whats going on in your shop with customers.
Erica there a great little saw just a bad ignorant owner
Happy Thanksgiving to you my fellow Canadian 👍🏼
Happy Thanksgiving! 🇨🇦
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Reminder for the part # on the tensioner relocate kit tyvm
I was looking for the Cub Cadet #90. The mower than won that race was a brute. The Liquor store street sign is a first for me.
Could you please do a video on one of the racing mowers, I’m keen to see the setup 😊
I have one of these little hobby saws and it is a real workhorse for a homeowner. I don't know if I would tackle cutting up 10 cord of firewood with it, but it would probably be OK. I like the idea of the tensioner relocation kit. I'm going to install one over the winter. Thanks again for your awesome content. I learn something new every time I tune in to one of your videos. :)
Another Great Video! I enjoy them very much. I love your sense of Humor. "This saw has sucked more dirt than my Dyson Vacuum" LOL
Oh, another Stihl MS 170😊
Paying a deposit is fine $30 Australian, if they repair it then deduced the deposit of bill, if you don’t want it fixed, it’s a standard cost, reduces people bring rubbish to the shop too.😊
Yes we have it in Australia now, yeah free coffees and hamburgers are good, lots of rubbish prizes too😊
Maybe not oiling was his complaint😊
Sounds Fine, even though dirty!😊
Your non denominational to brands, but you’d find being a Stihl Dealer many Stihls would come in. People also buy saw brands because they have that dealer in town, nearby, as to other equipment.😊
Nice mower racing for Thanksgiving 😊
Would luv to see what is under the hood of that mower that won! Unbelievable and looks like so much fun!
I'm watching from Ireland. I love the videos.
Good job keep it up 😊
Thank you, I will!
Another great episode, that air filter was beautiful , 😢.
Glad you enjoyed it
My chain slackens and tightens as i spin it on the bar. I did an engine rebuild (but kept the old crankshaft). Does this mean that the crankshaft is bent and thats the cause of my problem?
That intro is awesome!!
Awesome video. Same as my dad’s 170, quick throttle response. Do you sell or have worked on the new MS182 yet? I purchased one for limbing and when my MS361 first went into the shop. I like it except it hesitates when you first squeeze the throttle. It’s brand new and the shop started before I took it out the store. I wonder being brand new, the clutch springs are still a little tight. Not used to it because my 361 responds soon as you start squeezing the throttle. Don’t know if I just want to take it back in and have it adjusted or just deal with it. I don’t like when I squeeze the trigger and it’s a small delay till the engine starts spinning the chain, lol. Kind of startles you when it engages, lol.
Testimony of the quality of chrome plating in the cylinder!
After rewatching this I could literally hear the irritated mom voice come after you found the air filter and I loved the meme.
May I suggest a saw check in sheet. That way front counter people know what to ask.
Topseller MS170 für nicht die hellsten Kunden. Fortan nenne ich Dich Sherlock Holmes, es ist immer spannend mit Dir zu sehen was Du für Fehlerbeschreibung bekommst.
Top erklärt und der Filter sah wirklich nicht mehr gut aus.
Gruß, Uli (Germany)
The Tractor Races Were Awesome It Even Sounded Like You Doing The Announcement’s Erica 😮😀😮😊❤️ Did You Guys Win a Prize With Your Green Machine 😇😀😎 That Poor MS-170 Was Rode Hard Like an Old Harley Davidson 😭😭😭 Thanks Too Canadas Best STIHL Tech It’s Loved Again 😀❤️😊
i set my chain slightly more loose, no negative inference
Those are not stock engines on those racing mowers so I'm wondering what are the restrictions as far as HP, motor type/size, or what modifications are allowed on the engines.
I love mower races!!
I am challenged to respect those who abuse equipment. Those racing mowers are meanmotorscooterbadgogetters!😂 Great video, thanks.
Keep that saw and give that Yahoo a hand saw.
I don't know what motors they put in those lawn tractors but that's not normal! All I can say is those kids have no excuses not to get the mowing done in record time.
The saws that you throw in the junk pile, could they be given to high school students who are studying small engines. I mean that you don't have to deliver, but the auto shop teacher could pick up them from you. Just an idea. I love your chainsaw repair videos and always learn something. Thanks!
None of the schools around where I live have any small engine or car shops.
Good video once again! Just out of curiosity, what gap on thr plug? .020"?
Yes 😊
Another saw life saved.
As careful you might think you are it’s a great idea to actually flush the fuel tank and oil reservoir occasionally. Crazy how people just drop off these extremely filthy saws and other equipment to be serviced. I pressure wash my vehicle engine compartments before I take them in for any service. 😮
I'm trying to find a part number for a Stihl bar holder.....😉
What are the engine rules for the lawnmower class? Looks like a hoot!
Why did the inertia spring cover come off?
The pegs that hold it in are worn. The whole saw was quite worn.
How fast will Tyler’s racing tractor go? I’ve done pulling but no hay bale racing, looks like fun!
Not sure how fast it goes - fast enough to blow the front end apart when he hit the straw bales! 🤣
Not sure how fast it goes - fast enough to blow the front end apart when he hit the straw bales! 🤣
And Happy Thanksgiving! 🦃🍁
i come from norsewood new zealand
Sitting here wearing my Norsewood top 😎
can you do a proper chain sharpening video? little bit confused on sharpening rakers
Erica, some people have more money than sense! To leave a chainsaw in that condition after use on a $200 - $300 tool has anyone heard of cleaning or maintenance. Obviously this owner is not fit to possess a dangerous tool like this, I dread to think hat injuries the owner or possibly others could have had if that chain had jumped or snapped in that condition. Obviously the owner would rather spend money on purchasing new tools rather than spend money on maintaining and looking after it. My father brought me up to clean and look after my tools and in return they’ll look after you in reliability and keep you safe. I certainly take heed in his advice and do not abuse my tools. In fact if my tools needed repairs in a repair workshop I would be very embarrassed to submit a tool in for repair in that state.
What the%$#@ is bar holder, is it like a chrome plated kaddidle valve ? Good video I always enjoy them.
I wonder, why not develop a full blown checklist of potential problems for the customer to use when dropping off a saw. Attach said completed list with the machine. I might suggest you charge a clean up cost as you seem to have to do clean ups. It really galls me to see this equipment in such a state. You need to be paid to address bad equipment cleaness issues. Ridiculous to expect you to work on a dirty machine.
Lawn mower racing 💪😂 cool beans 🫘 there Erika
Thank you 🤗
@@marriedwithsmallengines you are welcome young lady 💐🌹
How would you charge out something like this? More like TLC, Good maintenance practice needed. Like your videos. Good stuff.
The infamous
'air filter of shame'
I'm going out now and checking my air filter....
Some people should not own a chainsaw if they can keep it clean and do maintenance on it