Kit seen/used in this video Aqua Marina Cascade Kayak - amzn.to/3kRd0Lm (If this link doesn't work, check out my Amazon shop to find the boat and oher kayaking accessories I like - www.amazon.co.uk/shop/morethanjustacleaner/list/37P7M2N3DS6HJ Other products I like on Amazon can be found here - www.amazon.co.uk/shop/morethanjustacleaner
@@MoreThanJustaCleaner my knee is in proving but the after affects of covid keeps coming back to haunt me. Had a nice weekend away at the beach but suffering to day, any on would think I ran a marathon yesterday’s . But at least I am getting out now.
Definitely the right call turning back. Tide+wind+waves can get dangerous right quick if the combo is unfavorable. Going too far out from shore with open inflatables is also seldom safe as conditions can change quicker than one might think - a bit different with some more closed kayaks. Not great paddling if the kayak has been swamped and additional waves make it impossible to clear the water.. and offshore winds can turn a fun paddle into a really dangerous situation in vulnerable inflatables. Unless one is really sure of the craft's and paddler's capacity in rough conditions, I would advise to never go too far from shore in any inflatable, in fact. I've gone on a significant number of open water paddles in rough conditions, but then in a closed inflatable with a spray skirt and more of a sea kayak capacity, with adequate precautions.
@@MoreThanJustaCleanerI'm not kicking open inflatables, I have quite a few as well and they're great, but I wouldn't take any of them out too far from shore.
@@AirOnTheWater I tend to stay close to shoreline. That fort isn't too far out, less than a mile and the tide goes out far enough to make it almost walkable apparently. And I've heard SUP crafts paddle out and back without issue. But not this day 😬😊
@@MoreThanJustaCleaner Yep, if the water is shallow and one is sure of the tide schedule so there's no quick change during the paddle, that changes the equation. I brought an open inflatable to Djibouti and was quite a bit out on open sea, but then most of the distance was also just 0,5m deep or so. If I recall correctly, Decathlon's specs for a number of inflatable open kayaks is to stay within 300m from shore, so much less than a mile. You never know when someone suddenly takes ill or something unexpected happens.. but the wind and tide are the main likely problem areas! If conditions are calm and you have an island in front of you and the shore behind you, a reasonable safety assessment will do.. but I hear too many news stories about inflatable kayakers or SUP paddlers being blown out to sea resulting in rescue efforts or casualties 🥺 And of course, many paddlers don't have as much experience from frequent paddles as you do.
I grew up by the coast with parents on the ambulance service and friends in the RNLI - yup, the horror stories are real. Like I commented elsewhere in this thread - It's fun to try knew things as long as you play by 2 rules - 1 - under estimate your ability & 2 - over estimate the conditions. The majority of incidents at sea are made by people who do the opposite - They over estimate their ability and consequently under estimate condition severity leading to them thinking they've got the skill and stamina to handle crap conditions.
So glad you all turned back Karl, mind you I’d have taken one look at that and not gone in in the first time mate! Far too dangerous with that offshore wind. Hey give that KayaCat a review, really interested in that, I see online they are going for £499, cheers mate, all the best 😉
This video comes at an interesting time. We’ve just done the first half of our paddle safety and rescue training today and the instructors were adamant that inflatables and wind are not a good combination. It’s made me wonder about getting one to be honest.
@@srappywoo it shouldn't stop you, it's just something you need to be aware of. If you watch my relatively recent loch Ness video you'll see we had a day with the wind behind us and a crap day with the wind in our faces. It's still doable, just hard work in a headwind. We try to avoid paddling on windy days. Or if you're doing a one way trip, try and time it so the wind is behind you. If it was such an issue, inflatables wouldn't be on the market.
@@srappywoo let me know what you think. It's worth bearing in mind that a lot of ignorant people who have never used inflatables have only negative things to say about them.
@@MoreThanJustaCleaner I would agree with that, but I also try to take into account my total lack of experience and listen to the points people make. I suspect it is still the most viable option for us. Stay tuned!
It's fun to try knew things as long as you play by 2 rules - 1 - under estimate your ability & 2 - over estimate the conditions. The majority of incidents at sea are made by people who do the opposite - They over estimate their ability and consequently under estimate condition severity leading to them thinking they've got the skill and stamina to handle crap conditions.
You were right to turn back Karl. When the tide turned you would have had wind against tide and the waves would have been much bigger. I would always carry a vhf radio at sea whatever the weather.
Kit seen/used in this video
Aqua Marina Cascade Kayak - amzn.to/3kRd0Lm
(If this link doesn't work, check out my Amazon shop to find the boat and oher kayaking accessories I like - www.amazon.co.uk/shop/morethanjustacleaner/list/37P7M2N3DS6HJ
Other products I like on Amazon can be found here - www.amazon.co.uk/shop/morethanjustacleaner
Love the urban exploring
It makes a change :D How are you doing Tina?
@@MoreThanJustaCleaner my knee is in proving but the after affects of covid keeps coming back to haunt me. Had a nice weekend away at the beach but suffering to day, any on would think I ran a marathon yesterday’s . But at least I am getting out now.
@@TinasOutdoorAdventures good good, I'm glad you're getting out more 👍😊
Definitely the right call turning back. Tide+wind+waves can get dangerous right quick if the combo is unfavorable. Going too far out from shore with open inflatables is also seldom safe as conditions can change quicker than one might think - a bit different with some more closed kayaks. Not great paddling if the kayak has been swamped and additional waves make it impossible to clear the water.. and offshore winds can turn a fun paddle into a really dangerous situation in vulnerable inflatables. Unless one is really sure of the craft's and paddler's capacity in rough conditions, I would advise to never go too far from shore in any inflatable, in fact. I've gone on a significant number of open water paddles in rough conditions, but then in a closed inflatable with a spray skirt and more of a sea kayak capacity, with adequate precautions.
Yeah you're quite right 👍☺️
@@MoreThanJustaCleanerI'm not kicking open inflatables, I have quite a few as well and they're great, but I wouldn't take any of them out too far from shore.
@@AirOnTheWater I tend to stay close to shoreline. That fort isn't too far out, less than a mile and the tide goes out far enough to make it almost walkable apparently. And I've heard SUP crafts paddle out and back without issue. But not this day 😬😊
@@MoreThanJustaCleaner Yep, if the water is shallow and one is sure of the tide schedule so there's no quick change during the paddle, that changes the equation. I brought an open inflatable to Djibouti and was quite a bit out on open sea, but then most of the distance was also just 0,5m deep or so. If I recall correctly, Decathlon's specs for a number of inflatable open kayaks is to stay within 300m from shore, so much less than a mile. You never know when someone suddenly takes ill or something unexpected happens.. but the wind and tide are the main likely problem areas! If conditions are calm and you have an island in front of you and the shore behind you, a reasonable safety assessment will do.. but I hear too many news stories about inflatable kayakers or SUP paddlers being blown out to sea resulting in rescue efforts or casualties 🥺 And of course, many paddlers don't have as much experience from frequent paddles as you do.
I grew up by the coast with parents on the ambulance service and friends in the RNLI - yup, the horror stories are real.
Like I commented elsewhere in this thread -
It's fun to try knew things as long as you play by 2 rules -
1 - under estimate your ability &
2 - over estimate the conditions.
The majority of incidents at sea are made by people who do the opposite -
They over estimate their ability and consequently under estimate condition severity leading to them thinking they've got the skill and stamina to handle crap conditions.
Always trust your gut... right decision. ❤
Absolutely 👍😊
So glad you all turned back Karl, mind you I’d have taken one look at that and not gone in in the first time mate! Far too dangerous with that offshore wind.
Hey give that KayaCat a review, really interested in that, I see online they are going for £499, cheers mate, all the best 😉
I don't like the seating position in the Kayacat, plus it's double skinned. It's not for me.
This video comes at an interesting time. We’ve just done the first half of our paddle safety and rescue training today and the instructors were adamant that inflatables and wind are not a good combination. It’s made me wonder about getting one to be honest.
@@srappywoo it shouldn't stop you, it's just something you need to be aware of. If you watch my relatively recent loch Ness video you'll see we had a day with the wind behind us and a crap day with the wind in our faces. It's still doable, just hard work in a headwind. We try to avoid paddling on windy days. Or if you're doing a one way trip, try and time it so the wind is behind you. If it was such an issue, inflatables wouldn't be on the market.
@@MoreThanJustaCleaner I will have a look at that video, thank you
@@srappywoo let me know what you think. It's worth bearing in mind that a lot of ignorant people who have never used inflatables have only negative things to say about them.
@@MoreThanJustaCleaner I would agree with that, but I also try to take into account my total lack of experience and listen to the points people make. I suspect it is still the most viable option for us. Stay tuned!
@@srappywoo we all start out without experience. It's the wiser ones like yourself that look into things first 👍😊
Give me a quiet river anyday - dont blame you for turning back x
It's fun to try knew things as long as you play by 2 rules -
1 - under estimate your ability &
2 - over estimate the conditions.
The majority of incidents at sea are made by people who do the opposite -
They over estimate their ability and consequently under estimate condition severity leading to them thinking they've got the skill and stamina to handle crap conditions.
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😁👍
You were right to turn back Karl.
When the tide turned you would have had wind against tide and the waves would have been much bigger. I would always carry a vhf radio at sea whatever the weather.
That's good advice Paul, cheers 👍😁
Quick showing of 🦆
Just for you 😁👍
I fort you would turn back...
Oh dear 😅
Attempting the fort may have been shit… but hey, you had a lot of fun by the looks of it
It was indeed a fun day Steve 😁👍