Worked at a few game stores over the years. I have had many jobs, everything from Social Worker to College Instructor. I currently am a 2nd Grade Teacher.
the immortal one handing down the essence of bargaining... about a year ago i had to take a mandatory counseling, negotiation, and mediation course - the message basically is what the immortal one just told me for free
my worst trade ever : a Nintendo 64 with 3 games( super mario 64 , turok 2, pokemon stadium ) + 2 controllers + a gameboy SP for a Nintendo dsi with only 1 game , i regret it lot , i was stupid to do that
Bence onee-sama don't feel too bad. I want sold a GameCube with the five Zelda games for the system comma Super Mario Sunshine, Double Dash comma and Fire Emblem. I sold it for $74 so I could get a used Xbox 360 that gave me the red ring within two weeks. oh, our misguided youth.
I sold GTA San Andreas on eBayfor $11 they day before they all got pulled off the stores shelves cause of the Hot Coffee thing which I knew nothing about till after.
Gonna offer some extra tips! One for John; when you check eBay sold listings, remember that sometimes eBay does promotions for 5/10% or $10-$20 off so the sold listings can sometimes be a bit skewed at the time of these promos. Secondly, I think you mentioned it in another video and i've used it many many times now. Use common quick selling games as trade fodder to get rare games. Any time I see Mario Karts or Super Mario or Donkey Kong.. the games retro game stores sell out of on a regular basis.. i snap them up quickly. Then take them in and they know they can move it fast, so they will often trade some of their rarer more expensive games that they have had sitting around for a long time for them.
the local game store by me does 30% cash or 55% the value for trade in value, abd they go off eBay prices. so I have done well bringing in a bunch of $2-$10 games in, and trading for higher value rarer games. like earthworm Jim recently for sega cd!!
Excellent advice talking about the difference between a sold item and what people are asking for! Being a person who sells stuff online I learned pretty quick that there is quite a difference.
I get a little annoyed when I see a game and ask how they came to their price point and they say, "That's what people are charging on ebay. " It would be fine if it was what people are BUYING it for but more often than not ihis isn't the case. They just see an inflated Buy It Now price and go with that. At that point I'm like if you're going to charge me ebay prices then I'm better off just buying it on ebay. Also I'd have a better chance on getting my money back if something goes wrong.
The more stupid thing with that typical answer "oh that's what it's going for on ebay", is that it's basically him saying "hey, go buy it off of ebay cause im not giving you a better deal". If it's the same price on ebay, why should I buy it from you then? It's so stupid.
No one in this comment secrion is against ebay sellers. We're talking about people saying "oh this is what it's going on ebay, so this is what I'll sell it for on CRAIGSLIST".
Boss Rush Mode eh, then just tell them to select "sold" in the search for what games are actually selling for. they'd have to be a real idiot to not understand the difference.
Pricecharting is terrible for pricing not to mention I personally wouldn't trust it just for the fact that it's run by one of the largest video game sellers on eBay, seems a bit unethical. People always say it's good for a quick reference but it takes no time at all to check sold listings on eBay.
It's true about not trading with someone who seems attached. I was going to buy an GameBoy SP with games and the guy was showing me that it worked, then was totally getting into it. Even though it was a super-cheap price I said, "hold onto that, don't ever sell it, you're having a lot of fun playing it." He nodded while staring at the screen as I said goodbye. Also good point about the "sold at" price versus "listed at" price. Honest & Fair was the best tip.
I suggest pricecharting for prices although check the sold section to get an idea it goes for or you can go ebay SOLD section but i wouldn't pay retail unless it's a disc or cart in good shape always check carts have a nintendo tool set on you when buying at garage sales or yard sales But with trades they're more right, unless you know the basic values
Yes. Your rep even with store owners can mean a lot. The only thing to add is that price charting does have loose, CIB and Sealed prices for most games. It's pretty decent in seeing what retailers would expect to sell a good condition game at. Usually around $5 difference.
Thank you Metal Jesus and Mr Hancock. I find this is all common sense which all comes back to and revolves around respect. If you respect the buyer or seller, yourself and the game or gaming peripheral etc. It should serve you well. I also think with people mentioning his "buy it now" had ruined ebay there are still ways to get some bargains but they mainly involve looking for bundles, collections and using the right keywords. Sometimes people mislabel games and you can find Auctions that way. Also through the menu type system instead of just keywords. I think Metal Jesus would have said all this in another video I vaguely remember. Maybe Hello can mention that here if the legend himself read this here. Thank's again for another great video. You are really providing a great service to games, collectors out there with your collection of videos. Great job.
My best trade: I got a GameCube with a couple of games for a GBA SP with a Pokémon game. My worst trade: I sold a SNES with 10+ games for around $20, just to buy a PS1 Memory card...
I have go to tell you watching you guys has truly inspired me to start collecting. I am hating myself for getting rid of my gaming systems and games. As the new systems came out my old system was out the door. I recently broke my back at work and am now getting ready to have my 5th surgery and have been off work for over a year so money is very tight at my house. My wife would kill me if I decided I was going to take on a new hobby and start spending money on things that I don't NEED lol. So I have tons things laying around that I no longer use that may have value to someone else. For example I just traded a Samsung galaxy s1 for an original xbox, 2 playstation 2s and a modded playstation 1 and they also through in more games than I count. Later this evening I traded my old 5mp camera that I have not used in like 6 years for a Nintendo 64 with 4 controllers and a stack of games. This has become like a treasure hunt for me. I am hoping to find someone with a dusty sega genesis and 32x.that they are willing to trade. So guys please keep these pick up and trade videos coming. I wish I could post a picture of all the new games and systems that I have gotten by trading things I have just laying around. If you don't mind I will continue to update this thread as my trades happed, Thanks again guys keep up the good work
I want to up date.... since posting this I thought I would reach out to my friends on facebook I told them how I broke my back and had no money but was willing to trade things I had laying around. I told them I was just looking for their garage sale left overs and I was just looking for anything related to video games that had little to no value. I wish there were a way for me to put my screen shots from facebook because after I posted that I was looking. So as of the time of me typing this I have been given all the following for 100% FREE!!! I have been given an original NES, a Sega Genesis with 9 game and 2 controllers, 25 ps2 game,6 xbox 360 games, A ps3 and 14 games and 2 controllers, and a ps4 with 4 games and 2 controllers, and an amazon firestick jailbroke with the kodi program, I am not joking I wish could post pictures,
@@moonbot7613 Not super crazy, have all the Nintendo consoles and Playstations. A decent selection of games for my systems. I'm more into playing what is fun than having complete sets. Going to start getting into Sega after I move in a few weeks.
@@TrackerRoo that’s awesome…congrats. Im a book collector myself but love living vicariously through you game collectors. I bet you got some great deal 3-4 years ago.
You can use Price Charting in more detail. It gives you direct links to completed auctions and separates by condition (loose, complete, sealed). It's easier than going to eBay and configuring search options in my opinion.
Price charting is nice for a lot of info at a glance, but ebay is better and not much harder. You just go to advanced search, type what you are looking for and hit "sold" listings (and completed but not sold if you want to see what price they don't sell at).It's literally 2 extra clicks and price charting tends to miss some listings for whatever reason. Always ebay if you want to nail down an accurate current price when buying or selling imo. That said, PC isn't as bad as John made it out.
You should invite John again and talk about the new Mega Drive release! Is he gonna get it? What are his thoughts? Some cartridges and accessories will be (re)released.
i dont trade games or collect or anything, but i enjoy this vids. feels like im hangin out and shooting the shit with yall. keep em coming MJ. great advice John.
Nice video! Really appreciate the 'if someone is attached to a game don't trade it from them' advice from Mr. Immortal... Good things will come to good people :)
I got a new NES classic edition for 60 dollars on Craigslist,,even more cool,, the guy knew it was worth way more and just wanted it to go to someone who would play with it.there really are good people out there..keep up the great videos!
I collect much besides games and trading is key. Also creating connections in the hobby can greatly increase the quality of any collection. Fellow collectors people in the business game developers are a great source. Sentimental value is fairly common in most hobbies involving collecting. As is the hoarder wonder how long before hoarding becomes a thing in gaming lol
If you have another hobby that you collect stuff try trading in those communities. You'd be surprised how many people have old nintendo games in their attic that they don't care about. I used to collect old DE razors and all kinds of wet shaving stuff. I was in a ton of groups on FB and when i got into retro games i posted a lot of stuff and had a ton of people contact me with old games they had in their garage/attic/parents house.
Ok, you guys covered a lot of interesting variables, but there is one more thing you didn't mention and i think it's worth to speak about: what if the actual game is not English? I mean the CD cover, the manual and even the game text's too. Does it change the price of a PC Game or do you even consider to buy it if you find one of these types on the internet? Of course i don't talk about old console games because of the region restrictions, but here in my area there are lots of German copies. (just to come up with one exact example) - Maybe we could count Japanese RPGs in this group.
I have a pretty good thing going with my local retro gaming store. I usually buy games in bulk off of eBay craigslist and let go etc. so whenever I get games I'm not too fond of or just a double ill usually take it over to my store. I normally get good trade in value or equal trade in for 100% value of the game. They know me to be trustworthy I'm always upfront and honest with everything I trade in and I spent a decent amount of money there as well. I'm a repeat customer.
owning and playing games is heck fun but i dont see how one can be comfortable having thousands of games at once. To me I would never be able to decide what to play and that would be frustrating.
morris89swe I have around 400 games and I agree it can be hard to pick at times.. but I usually play something randomly and end up having fun with whatever I pick. Shelf collectors have a harder time I'm sure
morris89swe I have around 400 games and I agree it can be hard to pick at times.. but I usually play something randomly and end up having fun with whatever I pick. Shelf collectors have a harder time I'm sure
But the thing is if you start playing a game and the next day you play something else and keep going like that for a while you got like ten games you are not finishing because you keep going over to other games. That is the frustration in my part. I still have a few games from years ago I have never finished because of that and I have even forgotten owning a title or two. But buying new released games is usually no problem though.
morris89swe I tend to complete new games I get but the ones I've had forever I keep backlogged it can be very frustrating if someone is a completionist but I don't mind to have a few games going at once
7zipyomomma I feel you its so true what your saying I only try to collect old games that I had when I was a kid back in the 90s but not going crazy like getting 1000 games I won't play because i only collect them that makes no sence to me.
Oh, I didn't check the description. I guess I assume that many people don't check the description, and that a thumbnail is more obvious to me. So humble John :) love both channels, didn't mean to come off as critical
I’ve traded televisions, and other items for video games on the Facebook market place. Honestly, the Facebook market place has some AWESOME stuff sometimes. #MetalJesusRocks #JohnHancock
Man,......you mentioned the original Test Drive by Accolade. That game needs to be in the Smithsonian as the driving game that set the standard for driving games as we know them. So quietly underappreciated. Thanks
You guys need to check Price charting again. I just recently started using that site. They now break it down to loose complete and new. It also has a feature where you can track all that have sold not just listed prices. With my games I will look at the loose price vs the complete price. Then I factor in condition of my game. And on most I average between the two prices. Point is price charting is not as bad as you guys make it seem.
My two best trades: Trade 1: About five Playstation Magazine demo discs. For Parasite Eve. I made sure they realized they were only demo discs too. We were kids at the time and the other kid was like: "Yeah, but I don't really like this game" So yeah, I was fine for that. Trade 2: Best one. I had borrowed Doom 64 from a friend. (Letting them borrow my Goldeneye 007) Well, they never gave me my game back and I didn't really want to keep Doom 64. Well I knew this guy at a local swap meet that sold and traded videogames. He had a system where if you had a newer/current system game. He'd trade you just about any game for an older system. So I traded my copy of Doom 64... for Super Mario RPG Legend of the Seven Stars. NEVER regretted that one.
A few weeks back at a convention I had a guy wanting my Megaman X3 for the PS1. He was all over it. Only thing he had I needed for my collection was a big box Mario Party 6, so I stacked some wanted commons to re-trade again, like 2 copies Ocarina of time and Megaman 3. Offcourse, since he wanted the X3 so badly, I pushed it beyond want I thought I would get. The lesson; no matter how badly you want something, both in trade and when buying; keep your emotions down, because the price will go up!
At least here in Austria trades are certainly not the way to go. We've got a handy site called "willhaben", which i would translate to "mewants" as it is broken in german aswell. It's a free site where mostly private people are selling stuff and of course there are also games and if you want a good deal you go there and never to a store and trading is really obscure. And unlike eBay, it has no fees and only optional services to highlight your post, etc.
Definitely agreed with John about Price Charting(VGPC). It's an imperfect system, but trade groups around here hold it up like it's the gold standard. When I saw it value some of my games for more money without box/manual than with, I knew It wasn't for me.
that only happens occasionally from what I've seen and what John said wasn't that accurate. PriceCharting is an ok tool for novices, checking ebay is best but with limited sample sizes there, I find people who treat that as the gold standard pick and choose which sold listings 'count' and it's usually when it's favourable to them. On ebay I've seen loose sold listings higher than CIB listings for Genesis and other games, so perhaps it was picking up those sales at a time when that happened...or is ebay inaccurate too when that happens?
It's all a big guessing game, as there's no "official" pricing for this kind of thing. I understand why some people use VGPC, but just not as a be-all, end-all last word on value. I've left trade groups on FB that were super militant VGPC users.
You get mails from people that are from Belgium?! 😎 Well, i promise it wasn't me! Been watching your channel none stop for a couple of weeks now! I wanted to start collecting for the PS3 and because of your channel i finally pull the trigger and bought my first PS3 and i already have about 20 games. I loved the PS3 and i'm happy that i can relive some of my youth days back again! 🕹 🎮 I also follow other people because of you and i'm planning on maybe going for a VITA but i'm not sure yet. I never owned it but i do own a PSVITA TV. Which does play VITA games. So i'm not 100% sure for that. Anyway; thank you for all the great content! Love your video's man!
The problem about ordering from e-bay while living in central Europe is that in the better case they charge +/- 25 dollars for shipping, or they simply don´t ship to your country at all...at least in that Amazon is slightly better...
Pricecharting actually shows quite a bit of detail. Has prices for complete in box, loose and new/sealed in box. Additionally it also shows the individual sales, dates and locations of the items sold, from multiple sources. Of course there's no absolute/definitive value for collectables, but I'd have to begrudgingly disagree with John's assessment of the site. It's usually reasonably accurate for any time frame, and I say that on the back of checking regularly, regardless of where I purchase from. Granted at roughly 1,000 items I have a humble collection, but it's enough to have learned to usually trust it (although having said that I'll always check multiple sources when trying to gauge a rough value). As for my best trade, Amiga Populous 2, plus about 100 "blank" (ok, ok, I admit, pirated) disks for the super rare Amiga versions of Wipeout 2097 and Shogo. The person traded with no longer had the hardware to run those 2 games (requires a 3d card and ppc cpu upgrade), so I guess I understand from his perspective.
I collect to play, I recently made a trade at SuperBitcon where I traded a SNES copy of Blackthorne which was a game I didn't care about for a complete mint copy of Rambo 3 on the Sega Genesis...I have fun childhood memories of Rambo 3 and the value was about equal, but personally I would of happily paid out of pocket for it. Blackthorne would of sit there collecting dust.
I have a friend who is more into trading and selling games than he really is for collecting...He uses Pricecharting for all of his prices but of course wants to get the best deal for him so he can flip it. Gets really annoying.... But he also has a lot of the really rare and hard to find games for sale *shrug*. Great video!
Here is a tip for you all. Stop trying to get over on people for a few bucks value and, NETWORK, NETWORK, NETWORK. BUILD RAPPORT. There are many people in your area collecting. Are you competing? Yes, possibly, but everyone why only look dollars and cents. I know a bunch of people in my area who go to yard sales/estate sales and have certain stuff they focus on. We are all getting stuff below value, so we trade stuff at near value because we all find stuff that others need.
Price charting is flawed, but not terrible. The data does come from sold ebay listings, and you can click on the sales that pricecharting used to make that average and you'll get to see the game conditions. The overall price is an average, but you can still see the high and low prices the game sold for. The flaws are that sometimes an incomplete game will show up in the wrong category, and not all sales are included if an offer is made to and accepted by the seller.
i think if you a famous UA-cam video game collector it's easier 1 most UA-camrs stay with there own 2 people know you as for someone like me not so easy went on Craigslist seen green n64 for $75 been up there 2 months told the guy i trade you a slim ps1 original xbox with the big duke and dreamcast with games controller's. memory cards the guy said no i can get all that for $25 that he owns a video game store i hang up on him .
I don't usually do trades/sales, but its something I'm open to if I get a good enough deal, or helping a fellow collector get a game, I have little interest in. Poor Reggie though, I was in the position to help him with some of the games he's missing in his Neo Pocket collection, but I discovered he unfriended me when i went to send a message :)
Trading is something I'm new to, but I like the general idea of it, though my collection as I have cultivated it thus far consists almost entirely of things I want to keep so I'm not yet in a position where trading is something I can see myself getting into at this point.
I would also suggest that if manuals, inserts, stuff like that, that came with the game are important to you, like it is for me, you should ask about that too. Seems obvious I guess.
Very informative and interesting video, and John Hancock's knowledge and expertise is amazing. I wish he was buying games for me! I kind of prefer doing a face-to-face trade or purchase of games from a seller. I generally find that what a lot of people would consider "in very good" condition on Ebay and Amazon, is "barely acceptable" to my persnickety personality. I know I shouldn't really sweat the small stuff, but since I am paying premium prices for games, I expect nothing but the best. What works for me is to build a good relationship with people from different parts of the country, that share similar interests and passions that I do. They tend to go hunting for games I wouldnt', and they tend to keep an eye out for things that would interest me. And I would do the same for them. Besides the cost of postage and packaging, I get a lot of good trades!
John needs to educate himself a bit on the online pricing tools available today(pricecharting & gamevaluenow). Both separate listings by loose, complete, & sealed and while sometimes there are mistakes, both allow users to report them and have them removed. They also both provide ebay links to each sold game so users can know exactly what was sold. Neither should be used exclusively to price games, but are outstanding starting points.
Absolutely, and I'm a big fan of his. He also amassed the vast majority of his collection years ago before online pricing tools were a thing. It's fine if he doesn't want to use them, but spreading false information about them helps no one.
What is false? I didn't say or mean to imply you don't actively collect, I said you amassed most your collection years ago. Your statements regarding online pricing tools reflected a general ignorance of what they are and how they should be used. I encourage you to look more into them if you are going to talk about them on UA-cam. Sorry bud, hate to be critical as I do enjoy your content both here and your own channel.
obviously i am into vinyl..especialy rare independent records. and sometimtes trades are the only chance to get other rare stuff, if it never turns up. or just to safe a lotta money, as sometime you make good deals for a spare copy and can get another valued item with it. i love trading :)
Yes always trade with people you know. So they can trust you and they will come to you for deals. I hook up several 3ds and WiiU 1st party games for a buyer. Title like Majora Mask 3ds, Mario Party, Star Fox Zero, Pokemon Moon and many other. Sold them for what I got which is $10 each. At the end he return a favor by selling a hard to find Switch console for less than retail. Works out for both of us.
Michel Alma you've done the right thing, l think X will be worth alot come 20 years time as the Wii U wasn't a massive seller and X will be a sort after game.
Got the European special edition original Xbox (crystal clear) with 4 controller (black duke, 1 crystal and two green ones) and around 16ish games of which 4 were rare german release only sports game that go for around 50 bucks each in mediocre condition as it belongs into PAL collections which many seem to be after. I paid 55€ or 65ish USD.
When it comes to valuing games, I do use PriceCharting for a GENERAL IDEA of the value (they have separate sections for loose, complete, new) but it ultimately comes down to this: do I, personally, feel THAT game is worth THAT price? If not, I don't really care what others are willing to pay. I have my own max worth for any given game, and will never exceed it.
99gamers was an awesome game trading website in which you have in site currency, and i sold about 40 games and bought like 50, it was so great, but it sadly shut down, they started letting you sell pretty much anything, books, movies, toys, etc, and it went down hill, the only thing i needed actual money for was to ship games, through post office, which is like 3 bucks rip 99 gamers
Share some of YOUR best game trades here!
super mario 3 CIB and castlevannia 4 for earthbound loose
traded a complete copy of Jurassic Park project genesis for ps2 for a cib Conkers bad fur day for n64
I traded a PlayStation 3 Console for:
Metroid Prime (GC)
Mario Vs Donkey Kong (GBA)
Golden Sun 1 & 2 (GBA)
Worth it.
I traded an AGS-101, 2 borked Gamecubes, and a Pentium 3 with AGP/PCI/ISA slots *FOR* a Pokemon Grodon AGS-001 and a PS3 running CFW...
World 8 Pking how was that a good deal? haha
It is always a joy to come on this great channel and talk games!
awesome that you have the gc and 360 controller in your banner :D
you said you worked at a game store but your channel says your a teacher
Worked at a few game stores over the years. I have had many jobs, everything from Social Worker to College Instructor. I currently am a 2nd Grade Teacher.
John Hancock do you ever incorporate video games into the class room?
jordan watkins yes, when appropriate. I strive to teach the standards as a priority.
the immortal one handing down the essence of bargaining... about a year ago i had to take a mandatory counseling, negotiation, and mediation course - the message basically is what the immortal one just told me for free
yea he is awesome
Adam Ball yup. he's a good guy.
I also have a Masters in Psychology, it helps :)
Alot of useless courses out there, especially in the US.
based Hancock swimming in the video games. An absolute madman.
my worst trade ever : a Nintendo 64 with 3 games( super mario 64 , turok 2, pokemon stadium ) + 2 controllers + a gameboy SP for a Nintendo dsi with only 1 game , i regret it lot , i was stupid to do that
This makes me sad
Bence onee-sama don't feel too bad. I want sold a GameCube with the five Zelda games for the system comma Super Mario Sunshine, Double Dash comma and Fire Emblem. I sold it for $74 so I could get a used Xbox 360 that gave me the red ring within two weeks. oh, our misguided youth.
I traded an AGS-101, 2 borked Gamecubes, and a Pentium 3 with AGP/PCI/ISA slots *FOR* a Pokemon Grodon AGS-001 and a PS3 running CFW...
Tyler Barret That makes me even sadder
I sold GTA San Andreas on eBayfor $11 they day before they all got pulled off the stores shelves cause of the Hot Coffee thing which I knew nothing about till after.
i wish i have friends like john hancock.. such a legend. the reaction from MJR was priceless.. great video as always, keep it up!
I recently discovered your channel and I have been binging ever since! Thank you for imparting your knowledge with us. I salute you sir!
Watching MJR during my lunch break, with this awesome lunch, and this cloudy breezy weather. This is the life.
Gonna offer some extra tips! One for John; when you check eBay sold listings, remember that sometimes eBay does promotions for 5/10% or $10-$20 off so the sold listings can sometimes be a bit skewed at the time of these promos.
Secondly, I think you mentioned it in another video and i've used it many many times now. Use common quick selling games as trade fodder to get rare games. Any time I see Mario Karts or Super Mario or Donkey Kong.. the games retro game stores sell out of on a regular basis.. i snap them up quickly. Then take them in and they know they can move it fast, so they will often trade some of their rarer more expensive games that they have had sitting around for a long time for them.
dude, your channel rocks, love the wide range of game you talk about, keep it up
Thanks so much! Appreciate the feedback :)
+MetalJesusRocks what brought me to your channel was the Atari game H.E.R.O. best game ever for that system
Great videos fellas! Cheers from Nova Scotia, Canada!
Always great to have you guys together in an episode! Great advice.
John always has this big Koolaid smile on his face when he talks. You can tell his passion for this stuff is contagious.
I don't really even collect games but I always listen to your videos because you're so enjoyable to listen to.
I love the immortal jesus combo!
the local game store by me does 30% cash or 55% the value for trade in value, abd they go off eBay prices. so I have done well bringing in a bunch of $2-$10 games in, and trading for higher value rarer games. like earthworm Jim recently for sega cd!!
3:40 this is priceless this bit, it's gold!
Excellent advice talking about the difference between a sold item and what people are asking for! Being a person who sells stuff online I learned pretty quick that there is quite a difference.
I don't know why, but I get an Al Borland (Home Improvement) vibe from this John Hancock guy, lol. Great video though as always!
I get a little annoyed when I see a game and ask how they came to their price point and they say, "That's what people are charging on ebay. "
It would be fine if it was what people are BUYING it for but more often than not ihis isn't the case. They just see an inflated Buy It Now price and go with that.
At that point I'm like if you're going to charge me ebay prices then I'm better off just buying it on ebay. Also I'd have a better chance on getting my money back if something goes wrong.
Boss Rush Mode Yeah I always base my prices off of the recently sold listings on eBay, not what's available
The more stupid thing with that typical answer "oh that's what it's going for on ebay", is that it's basically him saying "hey, go buy it off of ebay cause im not giving you a better deal". If it's the same price on ebay, why should I buy it from you then? It's so stupid.
Says to stop whining, then proceeds to whine. Thanks but no thanks for the prescription Doctor Derp
No one in this comment secrion is against ebay sellers. We're talking about people saying "oh this is what it's going on ebay, so this is what I'll sell it for on CRAIGSLIST".
Boss Rush Mode eh, then just tell them to select "sold" in the search for what games are actually selling for. they'd have to be a real idiot to not understand the difference.
Pricecharting is terrible for pricing not to mention I personally wouldn't trust it just for the fact that it's run by one of the largest video game sellers on eBay, seems a bit unethical. People always say it's good for a quick reference but it takes no time at all to check sold listings on eBay.
Groove Gamer I dislike pricecharting as well.
Everytime hancock smiles it looks like someone squirted lemon juice in his eyes
Well, he's got a great smile, so I guess it's lemon juice of love.......That sounded grosser than expected.
It's true about not trading with someone who seems attached. I was going to buy an GameBoy SP with games and the guy was showing me that it worked, then was totally getting into it. Even though it was a super-cheap price I said, "hold onto that, don't ever sell it, you're having a lot of fun playing it." He nodded while staring at the screen as I said goodbye. Also good point about the "sold at" price versus "listed at" price. Honest & Fair was the best tip.
I suggest pricecharting for prices although check the sold section to get an idea it goes for
or you can go ebay SOLD section but i wouldn't pay retail unless it's a disc or cart in good shape
always check carts have a nintendo tool set on you when buying at garage sales or yard sales
But with trades they're more right, unless you know the basic values
Yes. Your rep even with store owners can mean a lot. The only thing to add is that price charting does have loose, CIB and Sealed prices for most games. It's pretty decent in seeing what retailers would expect to sell a good condition game at. Usually around $5 difference.
Thank you Metal Jesus and Mr Hancock.
I find this is all common sense which all comes back to and revolves around respect. If you respect the buyer or seller, yourself and the game or gaming peripheral etc. It should serve you well.
I also think with people mentioning his "buy it now" had ruined ebay there are still ways to get some bargains but they mainly involve looking for bundles, collections and using the right keywords. Sometimes people mislabel games and you can find Auctions that way. Also through the menu type system instead of just keywords. I think Metal Jesus would have said all this in another video I vaguely remember. Maybe Hello can mention that here if the legend himself read this here.
Thank's again for another great video. You are really providing a great service to games, collectors out there with your collection of videos. Great job.
My best trade: I got a GameCube with a couple of games for a GBA SP with a Pokémon game.
My worst trade: I sold a SNES with 10+ games for around $20, just to buy a PS1 Memory card...
I had that heatwave game for my Tandy 1000 sl and loved that game.
So many truth and wisdom in a single video! It should be mandatory to watch it for every wannabe collector.
John has gotten really good at presenting now. :)
I have go to tell you watching you guys has truly inspired me to start collecting. I am hating myself for getting rid of my gaming systems and games. As the new systems came out my old system was out the door. I recently broke my back at work and am now getting ready to have my 5th surgery and have been off work for over a year so money is very tight at my house. My wife would kill me if I decided I was going to take on a new hobby and start spending money on things that I don't NEED lol. So I have tons things laying around that I no longer use that may have value to someone else. For example I just traded a Samsung galaxy s1 for an original xbox, 2 playstation 2s and a modded playstation 1 and they also through in more games than I count. Later this evening I traded my old 5mp camera that I have not used in like 6 years for a Nintendo 64 with 4 controllers and a stack of games. This has become like a treasure hunt for me. I am hoping to find someone with a dusty sega genesis and 32x.that they are willing to trade. So guys please keep these pick up and trade videos coming. I wish I could post a picture of all the new games and systems that I have gotten by trading things I have just laying around. If you don't mind I will continue to update this thread as my trades happed, Thanks again guys keep up the good work
I want to up date.... since posting this I thought I would reach out to my friends on facebook I told them how I broke my back and had no money but was willing to trade things I had laying around. I told them I was just looking for their garage sale left overs and I was just looking for anything related to video games that had little to no value. I wish there were a way for me to put my screen shots from facebook because after I posted that I was looking. So as of the time of me typing this I have been given all the following for 100% FREE!!! I have been given an original NES, a Sega Genesis with 9 game and 2 controllers, 25 ps2 game,6 xbox 360 games, A ps3 and 14 games and 2 controllers, and a ps4 with 4 games and 2 controllers, and an amazon firestick jailbroke with the kodi program, I am not joking I wish could post pictures,
Just getting into collecting. I played all these games when I was younger and the best way to experience them is on the actual console.
Hows your collection coming along?
@@moonbot7613 Not super crazy, have all the Nintendo consoles and Playstations. A decent selection of games for my systems. I'm more into playing what is fun than having complete sets. Going to start getting into Sega after I move in a few weeks.
@@TrackerRoo that’s awesome…congrats. Im a book collector myself but love living vicariously through you game collectors. I bet you got some great deal 3-4 years ago.
@@moonbot7613 Nice and yeah everything is on the rise lately
You f'n rock metaljesus! Great channel!
You can use Price Charting in more detail. It gives you direct links to completed auctions and separates by condition (loose, complete, sealed). It's easier than going to eBay and configuring search options in my opinion.
Price charting is nice for a lot of info at a glance, but ebay is better and not much harder. You just go to advanced search, type what you are looking for and hit "sold" listings (and completed but not sold if you want to see what price they don't sell at).It's literally 2 extra clicks and price charting tends to miss some listings for whatever reason. Always ebay if you want to nail down an accurate current price when buying or selling imo. That said, PC isn't as bad as John made it out.
You should invite John again and talk about the new Mega Drive release! Is he gonna get it? What are his thoughts? Some cartridges and accessories will be (re)released.
i dont trade games or collect or anything, but i enjoy this vids. feels like im hangin out and shooting the shit with yall. keep em coming MJ. great advice John.
Nice video! Really appreciate the 'if someone is attached to a game don't trade it from them' advice from Mr. Immortal... Good things will come to good people :)
Your friend always looks so happy :)
I got a new NES classic edition for 60 dollars on Craigslist,,even more cool,, the guy knew it was worth way more and just wanted it to go to someone who would play with it.there really are good people out there..keep up the great videos!
John Hancock is the dad I never grew up with.
John is too cool ! Great video i always love your content
thank you for your kind words.
I collect much besides games and trading is key. Also creating connections in the hobby can greatly increase the quality of any collection. Fellow collectors people in the business game developers are a great source. Sentimental value is fairly common in most hobbies involving collecting. As is the hoarder wonder how long before hoarding becomes a thing in gaming lol
great video dude you rocked it ; )
if there were a movie about you too John C Reilly would be IJH and Will Ferrel would be MJR
step brothers?
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Its been a long time since you made a gamer eats video, please make one asap lol
mrquija Not enough Drunken Master Paul around these days.
can be great advice for trading comics, figures.. anything! great video!
If you have another hobby that you collect stuff try trading in those communities. You'd be surprised how many people have old nintendo games in their attic that they don't care about. I used to collect old DE razors and all kinds of wet shaving stuff. I was in a ton of groups on FB and when i got into retro games i posted a lot of stuff and had a ton of people contact me with old games they had in their garage/attic/parents house.
Ok, you guys covered a lot of interesting variables, but there is one more thing you didn't mention and i think it's worth to speak about: what if the actual game is not English? I mean the CD cover, the manual and even the game text's too. Does it change the price of a PC Game or do you even consider to buy it if you find one of these types on the internet? Of course i don't talk about old console games because of the region restrictions, but here in my area there are lots of German copies. (just to come up with one exact example) - Maybe we could count Japanese RPGs in this group.
Thanks for all the great advise.
I have a pretty good thing going with my local retro gaming store. I usually buy games in bulk off of eBay craigslist and let go etc. so whenever I get games I'm not too fond of or just a double ill usually take it over to my store. I normally get good trade in value or equal trade in for 100% value of the game. They know me to be trustworthy I'm always upfront and honest with everything I trade in and I spent a decent amount of money there as well. I'm a repeat customer.
John Hancock is the most gentleman of gamers.
owning and playing games is heck fun but i dont see how one can be comfortable having thousands of games at once. To me I would never be able to decide what to play and that would be frustrating.
morris89swe I have around 400 games and I agree it can be hard to pick at times.. but I usually play something randomly and end up having fun with whatever I pick. Shelf collectors have a harder time I'm sure
morris89swe I have around 400 games and I agree it can be hard to pick at times.. but I usually play something randomly and end up having fun with whatever I pick. Shelf collectors have a harder time I'm sure
But the thing is if you start playing a game and the next day you play something else and keep going like that for a while you got like ten games you are not finishing because you keep going over to other games. That is the frustration in my part. I still have a few games from years ago I have never finished because of that and I have even forgotten owning a title or two. But buying new released games is usually no problem though.
morris89swe I tend to complete new games I get but the ones I've had forever I keep backlogged it can be very frustrating if someone is a completionist but I don't mind to have a few games going at once
7zipyomomma I feel you its so true what your saying I only try to collect old games that I had when I was a kid back in the 90s but not going crazy like getting 1000 games I won't play because i only collect them that makes no sence to me.
I really like these guys.
You worked for Sierra? Do you know the game ARC? Attack, retrieve , capture.
Two awesome people. Love you guys, keep up the good work
OHHH DAMN.. i want that Metroid shirt!!!!!
MJR back with another great vid...
OMG!!! I just noticed NOCTURNE on the bottom shelf next to The Immortal JH. That's one game my brother and I have a history with.
This was a really great video. I enjoyed it!😃
You should have a video link to John's channel at the end, he really deserves more exposure
Um, there is one in the video description... Just like in all my videos.
MJR has promoted my channel more than every other channel. This video alone help get me five times the sub count I usually get.
Oh, I didn't check the description. I guess I assume that many people don't check the description, and that a thumbnail is more obvious to me. So humble John :) love both channels, didn't mean to come off as critical
Thanks for this.
You should do a video on specific game series, especially final fantasy
Thumbs up for Heatwave! I used to love racing as the Don Johnson Special.
I’ve traded televisions, and other items for video games on the Facebook market place. Honestly, the Facebook market place has some AWESOME stuff sometimes. #MetalJesusRocks #JohnHancock
Nice video MJR and John :D Very helpful stuff.
Great video! Very informative!
Man,......you mentioned the original Test Drive by Accolade. That game needs to be in the Smithsonian as the driving game that set the standard for driving games as we know them. So quietly underappreciated. Thanks
You guys need to check Price charting again. I just recently started using that site. They now break it down to loose complete and new. It also has a feature where you can track all that have sold not just listed prices. With my games I will look at the loose price vs the complete price. Then I factor in condition of my game. And on most I average between the two prices. Point is price charting is not as bad as you guys make it seem.
My two best trades:
Trade 1: About five Playstation Magazine demo discs. For Parasite Eve. I made sure they realized they were only demo discs too. We were kids at the time and the other kid was like: "Yeah, but I don't really like this game" So yeah, I was fine for that.
Trade 2: Best one. I had borrowed Doom 64 from a friend. (Letting them borrow my Goldeneye 007) Well, they never gave me my game back and I didn't really want to keep Doom 64. Well I knew this guy at a local swap meet that sold and traded videogames. He had a system where if you had a newer/current system game. He'd trade you just about any game for an older system.
So I traded my copy of Doom 64... for Super Mario RPG Legend of the Seven Stars.
NEVER regretted that one.
Who wants to trades some Pogs?
Jeremy Seal I'm looking for some new slammers
A few weeks back at a convention I had a guy wanting my Megaman X3 for the PS1. He was all over it. Only thing he had I needed for my collection was a big box Mario Party 6, so I stacked some wanted commons to re-trade again, like 2 copies Ocarina of time and Megaman 3. Offcourse, since he wanted the X3 so badly, I pushed it beyond want I thought I would get.
The lesson; no matter how badly you want something, both in trade and when buying; keep your emotions down, because the price will go up!
At least here in Austria trades are certainly not the way to go. We've got a handy site called "willhaben", which i would translate to "mewants" as it is broken in german aswell. It's a free site where mostly private people are selling stuff and of course there are also games and if you want a good deal you go there and never to a store and trading is really obscure.
And unlike eBay, it has no fees and only optional services to highlight your post, etc.
Awesome Metroid Shirt!!
Definitely agreed with John about Price Charting(VGPC). It's an imperfect system, but trade groups around here hold it up like it's the gold standard. When I saw it value some of my games for more money without box/manual than with, I knew It wasn't for me.
that only happens occasionally from what I've seen and what John said wasn't that accurate. PriceCharting is an ok tool for novices, checking ebay is best but with limited sample sizes there, I find people who treat that as the gold standard pick and choose which sold listings 'count' and it's usually when it's favourable to them. On ebay I've seen loose sold listings higher than CIB listings for Genesis and other games, so perhaps it was picking up those sales at a time when that happened...or is ebay inaccurate too when that happens?
It's all a big guessing game, as there's no "official" pricing for this kind of thing. I understand why some people use VGPC, but just not as a be-all, end-all last word on value. I've left trade groups on FB that were super militant VGPC users.
You get mails from people that are from Belgium?! 😎 Well, i promise it wasn't me! Been watching your channel none stop for a couple of weeks now! I wanted to start collecting for the PS3 and because of your channel i finally pull the trigger and bought my first PS3 and i already have about 20 games. I loved the PS3 and i'm happy that i can relive some of my youth days back again! 🕹 🎮
I also follow other people because of you and i'm planning on maybe going for a VITA but i'm not sure yet. I never owned it but i do own a PSVITA TV. Which does play VITA games. So i'm not 100% sure for that.
Anyway; thank you for all the great content! Love your video's man!
The problem about ordering from e-bay while living in central Europe is that in the better case they charge +/- 25 dollars for shipping, or they simply don´t ship to your country at all...at least in that Amazon is slightly better...
Pricecharting actually shows quite a bit of detail. Has prices for complete in box, loose and new/sealed in box. Additionally it also shows the individual sales, dates and locations of the items sold, from multiple sources.
Of course there's no absolute/definitive value for collectables, but I'd have to begrudgingly disagree with John's assessment of the site. It's usually reasonably accurate for any time frame, and I say that on the back of checking regularly, regardless of where I purchase from.
Granted at roughly 1,000 items I have a humble collection, but it's enough to have learned to usually trust it (although having said that I'll always check multiple sources when trying to gauge a rough value).
As for my best trade, Amiga Populous 2, plus about 100 "blank" (ok, ok, I admit, pirated) disks for the super rare Amiga versions of Wipeout 2097 and Shogo. The person traded with no longer had the hardware to run those 2 games (requires a 3d card and ppc cpu upgrade), so I guess I understand from his perspective.
I collect to play, I recently made a trade at SuperBitcon where I traded a SNES copy of Blackthorne which was a game I didn't care about for a complete mint copy of Rambo 3 on the Sega Genesis...I have fun childhood memories of Rambo 3 and the value was about equal, but personally I would of happily paid out of pocket for it. Blackthorne would of sit there collecting dust.
I have a friend who is more into trading and selling games than he really is for collecting...He uses Pricecharting for all of his prices but of course wants to get the best deal for him so he can flip it. Gets really annoying....
But he also has a lot of the really rare and hard to find games for sale *shrug*. Great video!
John seems like such a genuine guy
Actually pricecharting has separate sections for loose, CIB, and sealed. It's not using CIB when averaging a price for a loose cart.
Here is a tip for you all. Stop trying to get over on people for a few bucks value and, NETWORK, NETWORK, NETWORK. BUILD RAPPORT. There are many people in your area collecting. Are you competing? Yes, possibly, but everyone why only look dollars and cents.
I know a bunch of people in my area who go to yard sales/estate sales and have certain stuff they focus on. We are all getting stuff below value, so we trade stuff at near value because we all find stuff that others need.
Price charting is flawed, but not terrible. The data does come from sold ebay listings, and you can click on the sales that pricecharting used to make that average and you'll get to see the game conditions. The overall price is an average, but you can still see the high and low prices the game sold for. The flaws are that sometimes an incomplete game will show up in the wrong category, and not all sales are included if an offer is made to and accepted by the seller.
i think if you a famous UA-cam video game collector it's easier 1 most UA-camrs stay with there own 2 people know you as for someone like me not so easy went on Craigslist seen green n64 for $75 been up there 2 months told the guy i trade you a slim ps1 original xbox with the big duke and dreamcast with games controller's. memory cards the guy said no i can get all that for $25 that he owns a video game store i hang up on him .
you two are awesome! I watch both of you. keep up the great episodes.
John always reminds me of Al from Home Improvement.
I don't usually do trades/sales, but its something I'm open to if I get a good enough deal, or helping a fellow collector get a game, I have little interest in. Poor Reggie though, I was in the position to help him with some of the games he's missing in his Neo Pocket collection, but I discovered he unfriended me when i went to send a message :)
Trading is something I'm new to, but I like the general idea of it, though my collection as I have cultivated it thus far consists almost entirely of things I want to keep so I'm not yet in a position where trading is something I can see myself getting into at this point.
I would also suggest that if manuals, inserts, stuff like that, that came with the game are important to you, like it is for me, you should ask about that too. Seems obvious I guess.
Very informative and interesting video, and John Hancock's knowledge and expertise is amazing. I wish he was buying games for me!
I kind of prefer doing a face-to-face trade or purchase of games from a seller. I generally find that what a lot of people would consider "in very good" condition on Ebay and Amazon, is "barely acceptable" to my persnickety personality. I know I shouldn't really sweat the small stuff, but since I am paying premium prices for games, I expect nothing but the best.
What works for me is to build a good relationship with people from different parts of the country, that share similar interests and passions that I do. They tend to go hunting for games I wouldnt', and they tend to keep an eye out for things that would interest me. And I would do the same for them. Besides the cost of postage and packaging, I get a lot of good trades!
Terrific video, and a lot of the tips apply to things that are not video game related.
John has 11,000 games and 25 complete collections. I have about 30 games and 2 very incomplete collections.
John needs to educate himself a bit on the online pricing tools available today(pricecharting & gamevaluenow). Both separate listings by loose, complete, & sealed and while sometimes there are mistakes, both allow users to report them and have them removed. They also both provide ebay links to each sold game so users can know exactly what was sold. Neither should be used exclusively to price games, but are outstanding starting points.
yeah, Im sure John needs your tips and price charting. Dude, have you seen his collection, or his youtube videos ?
Absolutely, and I'm a big fan of his. He also amassed the vast majority of his collection years ago before online pricing tools were a thing. It's fine if he doesn't want to use them, but spreading false information about them helps no one.
Gargan tuace this is false. I constantly add and trade in the community.
What is false? I didn't say or mean to imply you don't actively collect, I said you amassed most your collection years ago. Your statements regarding online pricing tools reflected a general ignorance of what they are and how they should be used. I encourage you to look more into them if you are going to talk about them on UA-cam. Sorry bud, hate to be critical as I do enjoy your content both here and your own channel.
obviously i am into vinyl..especialy rare independent records. and sometimtes trades are the only chance to get other rare stuff, if it never turns up. or just to safe a lotta money, as sometime you make good deals for a spare copy and can get another valued item with it. i love trading :)
Yes always trade with people you know. So they can trust you and they will come to you for deals. I hook up several 3ds and WiiU 1st party games for a buyer. Title like Majora Mask 3ds, Mario Party, Star Fox Zero, Pokemon Moon and many other. Sold them for what I got which is $10 each. At the end he return a favor by selling a hard to find Switch console for less than retail. Works out for both of us.
Last week i traded Watch Dogs 2 and Uncharted 4, for Xenoblade Chronicles X with artbook. I have no idea if that was a good trade, but it felt right
Michel Alma you've done the right thing, l think X will be worth alot come 20 years time as the Wii U wasn't a massive seller and X will be a sort after game.
Got the European special edition original Xbox (crystal clear) with 4 controller (black duke, 1 crystal and two green ones) and around 16ish games of which 4 were rare german release only sports game that go for around 50 bucks each in mediocre condition as it belongs into PAL collections which many seem to be after.
I paid 55€ or 65ish USD.
When it comes to valuing games, I do use PriceCharting for a GENERAL IDEA of the value (they have separate sections for loose, complete, new) but it ultimately comes down to this: do I, personally, feel THAT game is worth THAT price? If not, I don't really care what others are willing to pay. I have my own max worth for any given game, and will never exceed it.
Great advise , thanks again for putting up great videos and usable content !!!
Cool stuff guys! Thanks for this!
watched the 30 second ad..just for you MJ
99gamers was an awesome game trading website in which you have in site currency, and i sold about 40 games and bought like 50, it was so great, but it sadly shut down, they started letting you sell pretty much anything, books, movies, toys, etc, and it went down hill, the only thing i needed actual money for was to ship games, through post office, which is like 3 bucks
rip 99 gamers