How do you assert free will when man is naturally inclined towards sin ? Romans 8:7 and why was there No scripture used in this podcast? Truth does matter. Scripture is the Truth that we base everything on. The absence of scripture in a discussion makes it purely opinion, which doesn’t count for much . Tingles the ears as James puts it
@@jonostake nope, based on what is fact, you couldn’t play piano or write a book about it if you knew nothing about a piano. Same in theology! You have to know God, and he revealed himself in scripture so there’s the objective truth to be gleaned from
By definition, if the Molinist God knows how a person will freely choose if placed in certain circumstances, *and THEN* plans, organizes, ordains, creates, decrees and predestines those exact certain circumstances; *THEN it is AXIOMATICALLY TRUE* that the Molinist God is exhaustively determining, EDD, i.e. fatalistically determining, the thoughts, beliefs and actions of people, no differently than the sovereign Calvinist potter God does!
God’s creation of a world in which human free will can be done as well as always achieving his will is exactly what Molinism argues for. It’s that through God’s middle knowledge his will is done through human free will. No matter the thoughts, feelings, actions ect. of a person God’s sovereignty is not hindered
@@sushi9335 --- What part of the Molinist God manufacturing circumstances is the *CAUSE* of a persons response nullifies any premise that a free-will response exists, don't you get? Please explain to the class how a free-willed response/choice that was determined by circumstances is a legitimate free-willed choice?
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To God be the glory.
In God's sovereignty He gave us free will, i never understood free will denying sovereignty.
How do you assert free will when man is naturally inclined towards sin ? Romans 8:7 and why was there No scripture used in this podcast? Truth does matter. Scripture is the Truth that we base everything on. The absence of scripture in a discussion makes it purely opinion, which doesn’t count for much . Tingles the ears as James puts it
Urges and inclinations aren't fate
Are learn to play piano textbooks purely opinion?
@@TheProdigalMeowMeowMeowReturns they are if your ruled by them and can’t overcome them on your own,
@@jonostake nope, based on what is fact, you couldn’t play piano or write a book about it if you knew nothing about a piano. Same in theology! You have to know God, and he revealed himself in scripture so there’s the objective truth to be gleaned from
It's Luis, not Louis. Hispanic version.
By definition, if the Molinist God knows how a person will freely choose if placed in certain circumstances, *and THEN* plans, organizes, ordains, creates, decrees and predestines those exact certain circumstances; *THEN it is AXIOMATICALLY TRUE* that the Molinist God is exhaustively determining, EDD, i.e. fatalistically determining, the thoughts, beliefs and actions of people, no differently than the sovereign Calvinist potter God does!
Your statement "how a person will freely choose" trumps everything you said after that. There is no determinism if a person can freely choose.
@@jessiemoreno5493 --- lol! Thanks for proving Molinists, like Calvinists, are incapable of following logical arguments.
God’s creation of a world in which human free will can be done as well as always achieving his will is exactly what Molinism argues for. It’s that through God’s middle knowledge his will is done through human free will. No matter the thoughts, feelings, actions ect. of a person God’s sovereignty is not hindered
@@sushi9335 --- What part of the Molinist God manufacturing circumstances is the *CAUSE* of a persons response nullifies any premise that a free-will response exists, don't you get?
Please explain to the class how a free-willed response/choice that was determined by circumstances is a legitimate free-willed choice?
@@JohnQPublic11and yet you'll make 1000 choices today. Try that defense in a court of law. "The circumstances made me do it judge!"