Steam Deck OLED vs ROG Ally
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- Опубліковано 13 гру 2023
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The ROG Ally was a powered up alternative to the Steam Deck offering greater power and a larger library thanks to running Windows 11, making for a pretty straightforward comparison between the two systems. With the release of the Steam Deck OLED however, there's a lot of new features to consider as well as an increase in value on Valve's side, thanks to price drops, enhancements, and storage size bumps. After putting time into both system's, here's what I think makes which one the right one for you.
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I hate to be that guy but the steam deck sucks compared to the Ally
Just FYI, the original Gameboy was 4 batteries not 2.
I love my Ally, long nights of gaming in bed with a beer and dab pen gaming all night on AAA games in Discord with all the bois and they have no idea I'm not at my PC.
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Nice!
As a handheld enthusiast it was so hard to not buy a Steam Deck when they came out but I wanted to wait in case an OLED model was released. Than the ROG Ally I almost bought one but the idea of having to deal with Windows 11 held me back. Got the glossy Deck OLED finally and am so glad I waited. What Valve has created is truly special. The HDR screen is so good. It feels like a premium handheld console that's unlocked.
Isn’t the screen incredible? Really an impressive thing
Me too I really wanted an OG deck but I had a feeling that I should just wait. Then I saw the Ally and I just about pulled the trigger at Best Buy. So happy with my 512gb Steam Deck OLED
Yes it’s such luck I decided to wait as well lol Emudeck being a thing has really opened my mind to just how incredible this thing is I love it 😊
I was not as patient and bought an ROG Ally. The experience was so clunky and so many apps like game pass and EA pass not working, I returned it after 4 days of owning it and bought the 512 oled. Glad I did the experience has been seamless and the screen is so incredible it really adds to the experience. Also wow the joysticks are just so much better on the deck than the Ally, but thats just my personal preference.
Bought a NOLED Deck on day 1 and never regretted it. Also have a pair of NReal Air glasses which run on micro olled displays. So there is handheld, big screen oled glory available for a while now. I totally get the appearance of the Steam Deck Oled though, it is a very, very good device.
I own the last three big handhelds, the AYANEO 2s, the legion go and the Ally. I avoided the SD due to the screen quality but after getting the oled SD, I’ve sold my other three handhelds.
Wow, that says a lot! I have a SD OLED and love it, but I was thinking about adding an Ally into the collection alongside it (mostly for the games that require some extra performance). However when I see comments like yours, I realize I may be better off just keeping that extra $600
@@CompleteProducer84i have both and use both. When at home, if i dont need track pads i use ally cranked out with overclocked 170hz. Ill play lighter titles locally, or heavier games streaming with moonlight/sunshine to my desktop. Its great to play 1080 high refresh rate. If im out and about its always going to be steam deck for battery life.
@@CompleteProducer84 just got a alloy for 550
@@CompleteProducer84What games do require that little bit extra performance?
This is the way. Only kept the Switch OLED for indies, super light build and best battery. Everything else, the SD OLED.
Can someone help me? Why cant i download steam os on rog ally? People are saying isnt the same os in the steam deck
Its great that both of these exist. I personally own an ally but I can see the appeal of that battery life offered by the steam deck. I'm plugged in 90% of the time with everything cranked to 10. If I travelled I would probably still choose the ally because of its smaller size.
Is important to know that the SteamDeck keeps getting updates from devs that make the experience that much better. ROG for as good of a device as they make it will be just like most of their gaming PCs. Every year there will be a new model and support on the previous models will dwindle
To be fair asus has being very consistent with updates, I was in shock To be honest since support for gaming laptops is more or less none existing
@@carimpest The issue theyre pointing out is not ASUS support, but game developer support. Game developers are already targeting Steam, so its easy to also target Steamdeck at the same time.
@Stevieboy7 but both systems use the same architecture so optimization for amd chipsets would improve performance not only in the steam deck but also in the rog ally or any other amd based system
@@Stevieboy7this wouldn’t matter? If they target steam deck it’ll just run just as good if not even better on the ally since it’s also got steam as a launcher
@@huntertipton6197it’s not being optimized for the ‘steam application’ but the hardware of the deck itself. This doesn’t mean the Ally won’t get better performance from it, but there will be greater increase for the deck.
However, the Ally still does have naturally more power which means it doesn’t need as much optimization
I found one of the coolest uses for the touchpads, if you emulate the switch version of skyward sword there’s a controller profile you can download that changes the controls so that right stick is camera and the touch pad is the sword and it works amazing
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ROG Ally is a PC that can be played handheld. Steamdeck is a handheld that can do PC stuffs
well steam deck is just linux so for most developers its the opposite
A fully capable portable PC with the option to download or stream from any service including Steam is clearly better for any Windows fan. Ignoring the limitations of Steamdeck for the sake of a lo res OLED is silly.
@toddanderson8530 800p is fine on a small screen, if you want higher resolution go play with your phone instead
Nah they both are handheld computers, one runs linux and one runs windows
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This is literally the most difficult decision of my life. I want the Ally but the SD card problems and battery life is very problematic rn so I guess I’ll just wait a lil bit longer.
Hope we get an updated version (please release it in black or dark gray... White color tech is for the kitchen lmao)
My whole setup is white. Guess I should make it a second kitchen@@rodrigolopezmaya5974
@@rodrigolopezmaya5974It's here and actually has the best possible upgrades for a refresh. Literally double the battery size, 80whr. That is f*cking enormous. Not only that but the ram is faster and you get more of it which are also bigger improvements than they sound.
The ally has a much more powerful chip than the steam deck but the same memory bandwidth and the deck is already held back by its memory. On the ally this legit just mean about +10% performance
The extra memory also significantly cuts how much data has to be shuffled around between the ssd and ram which uses tons of power.
First handheld I'm actually considering
I have both, and they are great machines. If I had to choose one it would be a tough choice. I would pick the Steam Deck Oled. If I still had my old lcd deck I would go for the Rog.
Funny, I have both too and I’d choose the Ally for its power and VRR screen. Opinions! Aren’t they great? 😜
This is a 1:1 of my experience
@@FakeReal007Yea but I rather travel and play for longtime with updates
@@GarydeBrown VRR with LFC is a gamechanger for these handhelds. With Steam Deck you have to mess about changing refresh rate and using Vsync. Games just run much smoother on my Ally than my LCD Steam Deck. Would never buy any screen for my desktop PC or a handheld without VRR. Would of been tempted if the OLED Deck had VRR as it would of complimented it's lower framerates.
The Steam Deck OLED wins it for me every time. Having slightly more power sounds great in theory, but in practice, having a longer battery life is far more important. And if you’re at home e anyway, you’d just play on your vastly more powerful gaming PC.
When we talk resolutions, this applies to docked mode as well, correct? This really doesn’t just pertain to the screen because your resolution output is going to take more computer power, right? Is there a way to make it change the resolution whatever you dock it? This way I have the better battery life when I’m handheld, but then I have a better looking game for streaming whenever I dock it. Or do I need to go into the settings and tweak it every time. Also, can you make this setting change automatically based on the game you play? On the ROG Ally (or steam deck).
The resolution you output does not take up more power at all. Power draw when using an internal screen will depend on screen size, brightness, refresh rate, and overall panel type. I'd say both need tinkering because they are both PCs. Neither one will just look exactly or run exactly how you want it out of the box in games. Both systems can have game specific modes though thanks to SteamOS and Armory Crate
Own both and love both. Funny enough i use my Ally as a desktop for work all day and have played some games but end up using the deck for most gaming.
that's my plan this year lol
Can you still play with mods just like you can if you had a regular gaming pc ?
As a long time PC user that loves to tinker, I have no regrets with my Rog Ally. No issues with windows and asus armory crate so far. I have a powerful desktop pc and a gaming laptop as well. The Rog Ally will be perfect for when I’m traveling.
I'm still in between a rog ally or a gaming laptop, its not like im going to be traveling that much but when i go and visit family that something else, i do have a beast gaming desktop so im unsure what would be best for price/performance
@@KenjiBiHI guess that’ll depends on what kind of game do you plan on playing. There’s some games my ROG ally cannot run but my ROG laptop can
@@Wooden_Hammer the games i would mainly be playing would be Warframe & singleplayer games like witcher 3
@@KenjiBiHthe Ally will struggle with Witcher 3, you’d be better off with a gaming laptop
@@Wooden_Hammer gotcha thank you very much for the info
I've been looking into them, and finally bit the bullet with a Steam Deck OLED when it was announced simply due to the battery life. That was my biggest fear when it came to a portable system, I'll figure out soon enough when my wife finally gives it to me for Christmas if I made the right choice. 😂😂
You did!!!! My girl bought me on for Christmas as well but I couldn’t wait so I gave her 1 gift early & she did the same
@@certified2919You and your girlfriend are sweet! Merry Christmas to you guys
@@Kyle-Marxluxia thanks brotha, you as well!!!
What's that game you're playing at 7:00 ?
The trackpads are a must for me and the biggest reason why I can't justify getting an ROG Ally (ignoring the fact I already had a Steam Deck by the time it was announced). They really do pick up the slack when it comes to PC gaming on a handheld, and even if you don't need it to make a game control well, it still adds a ton of customization. Same with the back buttons. I like having the 4 the Deck has, but at least that one isn't a deal breaker for me. I'd take the two back buttons of the ROG Ally over no back buttons any day of the week.
Steam deck have back buttons what are you talking bout 😂
I honestly rarely use the track pads for gaming but they are a game changer for using the deck in desktop mode. When im in desktop mode and trying to browse the internet, downloading and installing mods, or whatever else, i dont wanna have to try to use some janky joystick mouse or smudge up the screen by tapping on it.
Be honest, you really use those track pads for gaming? I don't know, that just seems uncomfortable and annoying. No reason to use with a device designed to be used as a controller with a touch screen.
I use the track pads all the time, it depends on the type of games you play. there's a lot of MMO's i play like guildwards where the track pads act as extra buttons for mounts and skills, or when i play sims 3 i much prefer using the track pads. I also use my steamdeck as an actual PC if im going to be out of the house for a few days, and i use the deck instead of bringing a laptop with me as well. the trackpads are really freaking useful then if i dont want to bring or forget to bring a mouse with me as well. @@milo_andrs
@@milo_andrsI played through the entirety of stalker with the touchpads and it was a great experience
This youtuber misses out on a lot in this video. VRR on the Ally is so amazing. You don't have to lock your frames. VRR is awesome. Where as SD if you want a smooth gameplay, you have to lock your frames.
I don't even use VRR on my desktop gaming PC and Gsync monitor. I don't like my system being maxed out all the time. It produces a lot of extra heat, noise, and extra wear and tear on my PC that I just don't want. Plus, I realized over time that it doesn't smooth out all stutter. If the framedrops are too significant you will still perceive the stutter. I also don't like the clarity and temporal resolution to change like it does with VRR. I prefer to have my games run at a steady framerate that my system can maintain consistently.
Noise and temperature are even more important to me on a handheld.
Window 11 on rog is not a really issue for me it runs smoothly and can play most of the game but Mine rog ally had sd card reader issues and had to returned. I thought it was window driver issue at first but then found out that the internal card is defected.
Which perform better for Palworld ? Thanks
what game is he playing at 3:34 `?
I picked up a spigen case and skin for my ally, adds grip and protection and looks awesome
I run cyberpunk on steam deck oled and it’s very nice looking and playable. Got 3 hours of battery life playing it on the default settings
What's the game demo-ed at 4:07 ?
I have the ally and AFTER the updates and config it's decent. I have 90% of my games on epic games compared to steam where I only have 3 games, so the ally is good for me.
Hi, stupid question, can you not install epic in steam deck?
@@Mr.2GD you can't
@@LocalMultiplex yes you can
@@Mr.2GD you can, using lutris( the original launcher ) or the way i prefer, using heroic launcher( the interface is better in my opinion and i like it more )
I think in the end there is gonna be a market for handhelds like the deck, ease of use.. less powerful.. but still a well rounded device. Vs handhelds like the ally that offer more power, more options and are able to play a lot more games. It’s good to have the market divided into 2 categories instead of 2 different devices fighting over the same user base. Personally on the go i use my og deck, because i don’t really enjoy playing big games on the go. And at home i use the ally more.
Those other handhelds miss the point of the product category. What's the point of having a handheld when you're tethered to an outlet. Would rather just game on a PC for high end AAA titles. Valve is smart, they know their audience. These ultra high performing handhelds with poor battery life are DOA for most people.
@@beemoboppins just because you don't like something doesn't mean it's missing the mark🤨 or are you one of those gen z folk that think everything should be made specifically for your needs?
@Gingerlion777 wow straight into an ad hominem, not even debating the point of my comment. I would call you a boomer, but I'll refrain from matching the low leveledness you just displayed here.
I luckily have both and after having a serious think - I can't choose . I really can't choose between the OLED Deck and Ally - both are awesome. Then I also have a Switch Lite and I love that too as it's damn light and portable - we are incredibly lucky with the quality of portables these days . ...
Ok i saw the video, and most of the stuff was spoke "in general" (i know there were details but my questions remained) like, if u have a handheld that can run EVERY GAME and with good performance (rog ally) why would you choose steam deck? What i understood was, ok steam has bigger battery life and rog ally most of the time u wont use the 1080P so ull fall to 800 for example and remain with like 100 fps while steam deck will have like 80 and sometimes windows 11 can be buggy? (i mean this with updtates can be fixed right?). I was wondering if people could respond to my comment about their opinion on both if they already had the experience with each handheld, it would help a lot to make my decision.
How does this run fl studio and pro tools, audio editing software?😊
it should be a cake walk for it if compatible
Been waiting for this comparison
I see you are running through obsidian theme! Nice. Looks so good on the OLED
Great take! Love the info and work put into this video.
What about Windows hinders a handheld?
Other than the first time you turn it on, when does the OS on Ally become apparent?
If you use the devices for their intended ue (playing games), the OS makes no difference.
This is exactly what I'm wondering. Everyone keeps talking about how unoptomized windows is for handheld gaming but no one is giving any examples of why that is. At this point I'm inclined to go ROG because I prefer the way it looks and I can play Kingdom Hearts without excessive issues.
@FurbTastic1998 These people lack their own opinions, and instead simply echo what popular UA-cam say. Ignoring the fact that those tech guys are using these devices like PCs because that's their fields. These same reviewers also review top end laptops and PC builds.
I have both Steam Deck, and RoG Ally.
The Deck is only easier if you play exclusively steam games. Otherwise you're doing twice as much work to get games to play
And the desktop mode of Linux on the Steam Deck is even harder to navigate on a tiny handheld than Windows.
Once either device is set up, you don't have to deal with the OS.
Is the SD 64gb model a option for budget gaming? Or just wait for the next gen? Thanks
Just wait for the next gen tbh.
It's a great option.
Depends. I would personaly never put anything on sd card if its not pre 2012 games/emulation. If you can get under 280$ its definitely worth it, if just tiny bit tech savy, you could upgrade cheaply up to 512gb ssd easily
@@diddymies the sd cards are very fast now these days. i did not even get the best one but the sandisk extreme i got is ok to me and cheaper than change the ssd and less trouble also. i saw some reviews saying that the games will run just as good on sd card but the installation can be slower.
Great video told me everything I was looking for to make my decision on purchase!
Just picked up a 64gig sd, gonna change the ssd and i may pick up the jsaux backplate in purple
Theres work arounds to use other launchers on steam os, using battlenet to play diablo 4 rn
Love both but I think I’ll pickup the Ally simply for the other launchers required to play some of the games I have like Alan Wake 2
Just so you are aware, you can run games from other launchers on the steam deck, it's just not as seamless as a native steam game, but the same level of seamless as *any* game on the Ally.
@@SolidSt8Dj Some games are just a huge pain even with those other launchers. It is still much easier on the Ally than Deck
@@SolidSt8DjI’m about to purchase a steam deck oled but my concern is that I have quite a few games on Epic library apart from steam. Any idea if I can run them?
@@shrinathsudershanadd them as nonsteam game into your library then u re good to go
@@chad286 sorry but not all games will work and even on steam not all of them do work properly.
I had to send my rog ally back to get sd card reader repair also damaged as card which they did not replace I now only use it on 15 w / performance mode only
I'm want a Rog Ally end of 2023 & a Switch 2 end of 2024 ❤
Best choice
Which would be a better console to play days gone on, if I want to play on the go, like on an airplane or in the car.
Great comparison. Because of cost out the gate, longer battery life and that sweet OLED display, the Steam Deck OLED wins for me. I actually already have an orginal Steam Deck but if I were in the market for a PC gaming device right now I would go for Steam Deck OLED.
To each their own but after getting the Ally I didn't look back. I haven't once had to worry it it will play a game or not, whether it was Dos, emulated this or that or even the latest AAA titles. That wasn't the case with the Deck, oled or not. If anything it's solidified my faith in Asus again and I'm looking forward to the Ally 2 whenever it gets released.
I'm getting my Ally tomorrow. Very curious to see what it's next version will be like. 2024 will be wild for these devices!
@randerins how is your experience going on
How are your feelings a month Later? Have you had any issues with the Ally?
I got it on launch day and have used it every day since. My gaming laptop collects dust. I haven't had any issues. 0. I upgraded the SDD to 2tb and have a 1tb micro SD as well. All my current play games, Palworls, Baldurs Gate 3, diablo 4, Elden Ring all stay on the SSD. I have mostly emulators and movies on the Micro SD. The updates from Asus have been amazing and keep coming. I'm more excited now about a Ally 2 then ever before
@@araiakunin352 Thank you for the quick reply! I am looking to get one of these to replace my 10 year old custom gaming PC. As much as I have loved my computer she's getting old and is having a hard time keeping up with the new games. Also within these 10 years I have been diagnosed with an autoimmune disorder which causes daily pain and inflammation which makes it hard for me to feel like sitting in my computer chair and at my computer desk for long periods of time. I'm also tired of my computer taking up so much space and I want to being able to take it on the go with me to doctor's appointments (My doc is over 2 hours away). I WAS originally looking into an ASUS gaming laptop about a year ago to solve these issues but now that the ROG has released I'm considering it instead. Mainly I prefer the handheld form factor. I also like that it runs windows because that's what I've used my entire life and I have a lot of windows based games already that I could play right out of the box. My main concern is the battery life. Does this cause you annoyance on a day to day basis? Have you had to purchase an external power source like a battery pack? If so which brand is best? I've looked up so many videos but most of them seem to be fake brand deals so I don't really know the best bang for my buck. I know that using 30w mode uses more power than say 15w mode. I'm not a picky gamer who needs my games to look and play perfect and be 60-120fps. I just want them to be playable at a stable 30fps. Would 15w be good for that or is 30w inevitable?
I apologize for the super long comment and all the questions. I've done a lot of research on the ROG ally but it can be hard to tell in the sea of opinions what is factual and what is the truth. If you take the time to read and answer this, thank you.
Had a steam deck and loved everything except the performance and being locked to steam. I cannot stand stutter and extremely low frame rates. VRR on the ROG is a god send.
This. The stuttering and frametearing on the Deck is atrocious. VRR, especially with low power devices, is a critical and essential feature.
I never let my ally get hot, it had like 2 hours of play time and nothing would operate with an sd card inserted even if what I was doing had nothing to do with the sd card slot.
I saw somewhere that when you download a game from Steam to Windows they don't really run at similar speeds, and if you drop the write speed to 30 mbps you will get a more consistent download speed and it wont overheat the SD card leading to shorter life span.
I had my Ally for about a week now and love it 😊
Extreme or regular? I'm looking forward to buying one and don't know what to choose
@@khalidxtreme1872 Extreme but you should get the rog ally x tho
@@khalidxtreme1872 Extreme
I’m really debating which one I should get. I’d want it to be my main ‘gaming pc’ and play heftier games like bg3 and the new dragon age game (when that ever comes out lol). But also less demanding games like stardew valley. I’d mainly play it docked like a console but would want to take it along sometimes. Seems to me like the ally would be better power wise, but I really like valve as a company and the steam deck seems a lot more user friendly. Any advice on which one I should get?
to be really honest, I think neither are going to fulfill that "main gaming pc" need right now, the devices are simply not powerful enough, ROG ally has the slight advantage in some games, but it is not really that huge of a gap, you would probably still not want to play cyberpunk or any major AAA game on the ROG the same way you woudn't on the deck, mainly because of performance but also battery life, the battery gets drained really fast on a more demanding game. You would not get that "main gaming pc" experience unless you are plugged to a wall 24/7, and if that is the case, you have better options for the price.
You right, brother. If i want a god gaming experience, i have to play it on pc
Update: I got the steam deck OLED and honestly I’ve had no problem playing heavier games on medium/high settings. I mostly play docked but if I want to take it with me I can which is great. Maybe I’m just not as picky as y’all about performace 🤷♂️ For me this definitely was the way to go
Might be the only one but I got bigger hands and I still find the Steam Deck so uncomfortable to hold!! Not a fan of the joystick location and it’s a hefty device! Ended up getting the Ally and it’s a lot more similar to the Switch and feels a lot more comfortable for me!
I liked the Steam Deck so much I had to get the OLED as well as keeping my original. Great devices.
Why the hell would you do that lol
@@Mardoxx7 Why the hell wouldn't I do that lol
@@Aethelbeorn Maybe because you literally can't use them at the same time? It's a waste lol
@@Mardoxx7 Maybe you literally can't but I literally can lol
@@Aethelbeorn I see, just by seeing your profile pic I should have known I wasn't talking to a sane person, good luck I guess lol
I love my steam deck OLED, using the desktop mode and how clunky it can be to navigate on a controller really cements that I would’ve hated using a windows 11 handheld. Not to mention the ROG doesn’t even have a trackpad so it’d be even worse (along with all the other jank that comes along with Windows 11)
I had the same thoughts but I got an ally 3 months ago and it's just as good as the steam deck more so if you wanna play more demanding games. Navigating on the internet is as easy. The only thing I do miss is the trackpads for overall gaming experience
The touchpads are very important for playing things like strategy and P&C adventure titles.
🧢 it doesnt work well with age of empires 2 at all
I play Triple A titles on Steam Deck and I'm happy with how good it plays Resident 4 Remake and Cyberpunk 2077.
Yeah, I haven't had any issue playing the AAA titles in my library on my Steam Deck OLED. Honestly, I was pleasantly surprised by how well everything ran.
Yes but how many fps?
Honestly the biggest boon for the ROG ally is something that I don't see mentioned too often, it's not just a VRR screen, it's a VRR+Low Framerate Compensation screen.
So if your framerate is anywhere above 28fps (at least last I checked) you will have 0 visual jutter from the screen/vsync or tearing. The only hit to your play will be logic/latency related which is software driven 9/10 times. Which is massive for the ROG Ally and is something the Deck OLED only can approximate a fraction of with the ability to manually set the refresh rate. But even then if you have a FPS Drop on the deck, you will feel it or see it (tear). On the ROG Ally it'd take a FPS Drop
I think it is actually above 48 fps.
VRR is only applicable between 48hz and 120hz
No you can set VRR to run from 1 to 120 Hz with CRU which might even be better than low framerate compensation below 48 Hz.
@@DannysHauntedJourney While yes, the ROG Ally has LFC that engaged below 48fps.
Rule of Freesync Premium, you need to have LFC that engaged below your VRR range to qualify. and the ROG Ally has it.
People who have never used it don’t know how good it is..
Battery life and the ergonomics of the deck were reasons I went with that. Also not a fan of ASUS overall anymore.
Saying that you only need to do a "little bit of work" to have steamdeck run games that require anti-cheat, is in an insane understatement.
I just got the Ally extreme version in the UK 6 months late but the price came down so why not. As my PS5 and Series X is in the living room, I can't hog the TV all the time as it's not fair on the Mrs. For me as I'm not a gamer that plays in outside areas the Ally for me is perfect to continue to use my Xbox game pass and also now get the benefits of Steam games that are not available to buy in the Microsoft store for whatever reason on Ally. So for me I have it plugged in most of the time which negates battery life for my usage requirements. The Steam Deck Oled looks a fantastic machine aswell but as I also have a Switch I think it would be overkill for me getting the deck aswell especially as I was an early adopter of the LCD version. Software on Ally needs a bit of patience as it's not as easy just to play games out the box. Windows has a lot of quirks which piss me off at the best of times but once all updates and set up has been done, it has been an absolute joy and a beast..It has suprised me how well cloud games work on it, especially Forza 5, Hi Fi Rush and I even got into GTA5 again. I think both machines having had the LCD deck are both great in any case and just depends what suits you. I would say ease of use and battery life go for the deck Oled as Valve have optimised it well but if you want to play a range of games requiring a bit more juice and having VRR then the Ally is a great option. I have no regrets yet! Only thing I want to do is play my PS5 games on it. I know there is a way but I'm a bit apprehensive to install the software to enable it. If anyone has it running pS5 games can you let me know it it's difficult or easy to sort out? Many thanks and great video!
To the people saying just get an Ally for other game launchers, what is the difference between that vs installing Windows on steam deck?? /gen
I was thinking about that. How easy is it to do? That would basically make all of the Steam library playable, would it not? (Most of my games are in Steam, but I do have Game Pass and a couple of others.)
Thanks.
Watching this on my rog ally 😉
I love this new trend! I went with rog ally due to the game compatibility issues on the steam deck.
something not considered is that you can stream from your desktop pc within your home wifi. If you do that, the Steam deck OLED gets to take advantage of the 90hz OLED display with AAA games within even lower battery usage. I find myself doing that a lot with BG3 or cyberpunk.
Yep, for people that mostly play at home this is epic.
How to do that?
@@akey_9655 steam remote play or sunshine/moonlight.
@@joeykeilholz925why ? Is it not better to Just play on a pc monitor with à real setup ?
Sitting on the couch downstairs. Oled screen. @@TheVindu33380
Great comparison. I picked up a SD OLED even though I already had an LCD. The Ally looked intriguing, and I'm an ASUS fanboy, but SD is just so easy to use. It doesn't take much to install bnet/Epic and such.
Great content.
How many beanies do you own? 😊 seriously tho, where'd you get that nice denim jacket?
What is that much extended library of games the Ally has?
Its called compatibility. Dont play dumb. The SD doesn't match up in that area.
anti cheat games that don't support proton. the possibility of a new game not working(this got much better after steam deck became popular)
Any multiplayer games that uses the anti cheat engine is almost impossible to run correctly in the Steam Deck, for a lot of people that's a hard no
It runs Windows versus the Linux on steam deck. This means you get to run PC games, and launchers like Epic so you can negatively play Fortnite. Also, you have access to Xbox game pass, and you can download any of those games and play them on the machine because it runs windows.
@@Gsfan2024 really? How many games?
Windows is non negotiable to me, too many of the types of games I play don't work on the Steam Deck (older games, Japanese games, visual novels etc), so the Ally was the no brainer. Plus I'm a tinkerer, I've bought like 10 of those retro handhelds over the years and always love tinkering and getting all the power I can out of them, and Steam Deck just feels too user friendly in that it doesn't allow me to tinker with it as much as I'd want.
Steam made the decision easy for me because they dont ship to where I live. And I can just go to Best Buy and buy the Ally.
Yoo same with me, if only valve sell deck in my country, but i get ally instead, the price is also the cheapest among 3 handhelds (deck, ally, go) im not giving my money to those third party seller.
Man, this is a really tough decision lol. Both look very good. Im stuck lol
Awesome video! It well done Kevin
Excellent, balanced take, Kevin!
I use my Steam Deck to supplement my PC, but if you don't have a PC, the Ally and a dock is almost the perfect solution!
Still, right now, if I didn't have a Steam Deck, I'd hold fire for the MSI Claw or next gen AMD silicone.
Asus just announced "Fluid Motion Frames" for the Ally which will be released at the end of January. With that feature you can DOUBLE your fps in certain games. The beta currently doesnt work with fast moving objects though, so shooters wont be able to use this. But Baldurs Gate 3 for example can reach 80+ fps in certain areas. No handheld even comes close to this number. Of course there is some ghosting, but honestly, having 80+ fps is more important. And maybe in the future AFMF will even work with faster motion, as itll be continuously worked on. If that happens, then the ROG Ally wins without a doubt..
You guys think the rog ally will be able to run ff7 rebirth when it comes to pc or ff16.
The ally is a gaming pc it ll run any pc game that windows can run .
Both are good options for gaming. But I went with ROG Ally because it plays more games and plays more games better. I’m excited for future Decks and Allies and other Gaming PC handhelds.
Do you encounter issues because of Windows not being super compatible with a handheld
@@yaboim4thematixummm I haven’t yet especially when I put it in gamepad mode
I think for a majority of people, the deck is the best option due to its ease of use and better battery life.
But the ROG is still a great choice, especially for those who want to tinker or maybe have a huge library of games on other stores such as epic, or want to use the Xbox game pass.
I wouldn’t see it as a Xbox vs ps but more like console vs pc, where there are 2 different main demographics for their users.
i have steam deck and the game pass xbox cloud works great and some epic games do work also
For me, the controller positioning at the top of the SD is perfect, picking up my Xbox controller now just feels wrong...
I thinking about to send my steamdeck oled back. Trying it out for few days, its great no doubt, my problem is that the action buttons (x y b a) have a little bit much space and dont feel like they sitting firmly in there. And after some time they just fall out or get broken.
The next fact is the thing that other launchers (gog,battlenet,origin, epic games) dont work perfect if you download them un desktop mode and then the 1 year warranty of valve's steam deck is ridiculous for such a console. the fact that that keept me away from the ally is for sure the battery life and windows 11, but at least rog does 2 years of warranty. And it mochte not seems as a big diffrent but a handhald that u use lile every thing, its a very big diffrence. You will see in 1 year.
10:00 HARD disagree here. When I first saw images of the Steam Deck, I was worried that it would be uncomfortable to use because of the stick/button placement, but after actually holding and using it, it’s surprisingly incredibly comfortable to use. I find its layout way more comfortable to use than even the switch.
Ugh the Ally is $400 right now.. so tempting
What did u end up going with
Thanks for the advice. I bought a legion go.
I had the OG steam deck but I opted to get an ally cause my games were struggling... ergonomics and build quality on the Steam deck are unmatched imo. feels sturdy and confortable to hold and as much as people complaint about the button placements, it just worked so well for me. on the other hand there was no beating the smoother experience on the Ally, the Ally comes on top when it comes to versatility as well cause it can get any launcher and installing any game natively on them without going through the trouble sidewinding Linux, native gamepass is superb here and free ganes from the epic store, amazon etc. just keeps adding on. at the end of the day it depends what ganes you want to play and how... if we ever get a steam deck 2 id probably swing right back
Do anyone know titles of two very first games Kevin played in the video? Asus looks beautiful, but in my opinion Steam Deck is better optimised. It’s like Android vs IOS.
i want the steam deck but im considering ally bc you can play any game from steam.
With the emergence of these powerful new handhelds with different needs for different people, I’m curious to see where the Switch 2 fits into this outside of being game exclusive handhelds. Which I could just emulate or pir--. 🤫
Interested in the rog ally but the sd slot issue bothers me can anyone confirm if it’s still an issue (bricking sd cards) or did it get fixed?
Still an issue on existing models.
Still an issue.
there's a cheap mod which if you open the Ally, you can pull out the internal SSD and put a 90 degree NVME adapter and it fits perfect with no modification.
R8 models and R9 models apparently haven't experienced it but earlier models yes
whats the game at 7:39?
Lmao ik I’m late but it’s hades
Not sure why UA-cam refuses to recommend this channel i never get notifications on it. So bizzare, I've toggled notification bell on and off doesn't fix it.
I had an OLED Deck and bought an Ally and sent the Deck back.
If the Deck was more powerful and wasn't such a pain in the ass to get things working, I would have kept it... but even after watching HOURS of guides I couldn't get the emulation to work properly, and the other launchers.
I tried the same things on the Ally and they just worked straight away, just annoying that the battery life is bad, but I'm rarely far from a power socket.
I was gutted, because the Deck is a beautiful piece of tech, but it just wouldn't do what I wanted it to do.
These windows handhelds are much easier to get things up and going. Like emulation, mods, non steam stores etc. I don't understand the narrative of the windows experience being bad. I bet most likely use laptops and shit for work it's the same thing but smaller screen, not a big deal if you interact with a computer at all during your day, if not okay sure I can see the argument but still feel it's a bit overblown
im a noob with emulators and handhelds but i managed to install many emulators using emudeck on my steam deck in a few minutes. the emulators all seem to work well. it was also very easy to setup my xbox cloud and also gog/epic launcher.
Hey! I need help so I’m torn between the steamdeck OLED and rog ally for the simple fact of the matter is I want a pc like experience that will allow me to play virtually any pc game there is. And I also want to download mods for games such as . Arkham knight& Spider-Man remastered. Which is truthfully the only two games I truly want to mod. Based on this info what do you guys suggest I get? I’m 17 btw.
@@user-bx6iy2ut9y In all honesty if you want to play "virtually any PC game" you should spend a couple of hundred more and just get a gaming laptop.
You can get a decent specced gaming laptop for 100-150 more than an Asus ROG.
@@user-bx6iy2ut9y i have a steam deck oled. i use the included steam os. some do install windows on it. i guess with windows you can probably play everything just like a pc. i dont know for the rog ally. for the steam deck , i can play my xbox games (ultimate) , i can use many emulators with emudeck program i installed , but i have some issues with some games like from epic. this is with using the steam os. you have to consider that those are still portable systems so some games might be harder to play and to configure the controls. some games are not fully compatible even with steam games. you do can use a mouse or keyboard if you use for example a steam deck stand with usb ports on it. thats what i did. i can even play my steam deck on my big tv since the stand does have a hdmi port. i also have a projector i can also use with the steam deck with my stand. i bought an usb c extension. for the game mods , i dont really know but i guess you could use them.
My steam deck oled is coming next week 😊
I live in south east Asia the steam deck is import only so ally is like almost 200 usd cheaper than steam deck oled. But I am not sure about warranty of ASUS. With their routers I had nightmare
Loved this video thank you I need more videos on the rog as I’m getting one for Xmas 🎄 can I ask what’s the cooling like ?
Ally has the best cooling of all the handhelds and is the quietest
It has the best cooling as it has 2 fans and it also is very quiet
It would be better to have steam OS available for other handhelds over a handheld version of windoze Bring on the linux desktop
I’m considering purchasing a handheld gaming device since I have long, boring night shifts.so which one is better?
VRR is just as compelling a display feature as OLED imo
For gaming it certainly is if you want a smooth experience.
Hoping MS release a game-dedicated, lightweight Windows without all the trash background apps & processes.
I couldn’t pick so I got both 😂😪 loving it !!!
Got the oled and now im thinking of selling my asus
Whichever one has better performance I’ll buy
Ended up returning the ally bc of the kinks, but man I’m so excited for the hardware to improve. Once it performs better, it’s gonna be a must have.
One of the biggest things about the Steam Deck OLED is that sub 15 watt performance is still better than the ROG Ally.
The battery life and performance is significantly better if you're playing games that aren't using the full 15 watts of the SoC.
Really shows what you can get out of custom hardware rather than using off the shelf laptop parts.
It's more down to whether or not you're willing to put time into tinkering to get everything running on the steam deck, vs just pick up and play on the Ally. Both systems can run the same amount of games, but I think the steam deck is better suited to more knowledgeable people vs the ally just being aimed at the unwashed masses.
90Hz on OLED feels smoother than 120Hz on an IPS. The almost instant response times on an OLED dtrastically reduce motion blur, hence it look more responsive.
The issue I have with these 'handhelds' is the form factor. To me, these devices are way too big to be considered proper handhelds. Even the Nintendo Switch doesn't feel like a handheld for me, despite being smaller. When I see a Steam Deck, I always think it looks goofy and cumbersome to hold or bring with you on the go. You need a backpack, and even then, with a protective case, it becomes very large, almost taking up the space of a laptop in your bag. It's ridiculous. My ideal size for a proper handheld is the PSP or the PS Vita. These truly feel like handhelds to me.
In my opinion these still are. I mean the fact you aren’t playing ported versions but the actually pc version of the games on the go is great.
Yes, they’re not POCKET portable (which is miss), what they provide is being able to play your pc library on the go (that isn’t a laptop which doesn’t provide the same experience).
I see them as portable because imagine you have a couple games you play on your pc, and then are now going somewhere far from home (holiday, work etc). You can’t carry your pc around like a gaming console, but what you can do is pack in a portable pc like the deck or ally.
@@pian-0g445 I agree that it has some appeal, but for me, it's not a very interesting form factor. I have small girl hands, and I almost never use a backpack. My PS Vita is always with me when I want to play on the go because I can put it in my purse. Something like a Steam Deck or a Lenovo Legion Go requires at least a backpack. It's big enough that I can replace it with my laptop when I really need to travel. I can play my Steam games on my laptop and also use it for work.
As someone that has used both, I am much more of a Steam Deck fan. The community is much more passionate and constantly creates insane stuff to improve it and personally I am more of a person that uses the Steam Deck for games I wouldn't play on my 3090 Strix PC. Although I still downloaded Cyberpunk because I am absolutely obsessed with that game. Highly recommend the Steam Deck OLED!