Turning a Bowl Exclusively Between Centers
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- Опубліковано 29 сер 2024
- Woodturning a Bowl Exclusively Between Centers!!
Hi my friends! In this video I have accepted a challenge from a subscriber, to turn a bowl without the use of a chuck, of a glue block or a faceplate, just turning it from beginning to end between centers.
Versión en Español: • Torneado de Cuenco Exc...
I would like to say that this is a dangerous practice. You should avoid it and use the other methods of making the interior wall of the bowl. Turning between centers the outside is fine, but turning the inside has complexities. One of them is turning in confined space, with the live center, the tailstock and a column of wood in the middle of the bowl, all bothering the correct positioning of the tool, the other is turning at the very end of the tool rest. It requires meticulous planning and skill on the part of the woodturner.
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If for any reason you did not like it, or there is anything that I could do better, please let me know. There is always room for improvement!
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Thank you so much!!
Cheers!!
Daniel
danielrvs@gmail.com
Descargo de Responsabilidad:
Usted, y solo usted, es responsable por su seguridad en el taller y por su salud. Las prácticas mostradas en este video, (y las respuestas a los comentarios) si bien son las que yo considero seguras, no necesariamente lo son para todo operario (tornero, carpintero, etc.). La madera es un material heterogéneo y caprichoso, no hay dos piezas iguales aún en el mismo tronco de un mismo árbol, las máquinas y herramientas del taller pueden causar daño al operario, el polvillo y otros contaminantes físicos y químicos pueden causar enfermedad o trastornos cuando no se toman las precauciones debidas. Siempre lea los manuales de operación de sus herramientas y maquinarias. Este video puede darle un punto de partida en investigar qué es lo mejor para Usted, pero de ninguna manera es la única fuente de información. El nivel de experiencia del operario también es un factor, procedimientos que pueden ser muy seguros para un operario de experiencia pueden no serlos para operarios principiantes. Si no se siente confiado o seguro con algún procedimiento que ha visto en mi canal no lo repita. Manténganse seguros y disfruten de estas actividades.
Disclaimer:
You, and only you, are responsible for your safety in the shop and for your health. The procedures shown in this video, (and my answers to the comments), although they are the ones I consider safe, are not necessarily so for every operator (wood turner, carpenter, etc.). Wood is a heterogeneous and unpredictable material, not two pieces are identical, even when they come from the same trunk of the same tree, shop tools and machines can cause damage to the operator, dust and other physical and chemical contaminants may cause disease and disorders when the operator does not take into consideration adequate protection. Always read operation manuals for your tools and machinery. This video can give you a point to start your research on what is the best for you, but, in any way is the only source of information. The level of experience of the operator is also a factor; procedures that may be safe for an operator that has a lot of experience may not be dangerous for an operator with less experience. If you do not feel safe or confident with a procedure you have seen in my channel, do not repeat it. Be safe and enjoy these activities.
Another way to turn a bowl. Many thanks for the video. Even without the narration, the process was easy to follow. I have always wondered how to turn a bowl without a faceplate, glue block or tenon. Thank you.
He asked and you did. So you proved it can be done. And you did it very well. But it would be so much easier, and safer, using a chuck or a face plate and glue block. Or even a face plate and turners double stick tape. Thank you for sharing.
Hi Glen! Yes, my dear friend, not something to do everyday! I personally use the chuck every time I can, or a nice face plate. I have done double side stick tape as well and holds beautifully. Unfortunately, some of the subscribers of my channel do not have any of these resources and make do with whatever they have at hand, even when the involved risk is high, which is a pity and a sure recipe for missing fingers at some point in the future. The comments by the subscriber appeared in two of my videos using glue blocks. He send me pictures of his lathe and it was one without MT, in other words, the spur center is fixed to the axis. Typically, these are lathes used only for spindles. Anyway, now I can go back to safer practices, I hope the messages at the beginning, middle and end of the video are clear regarding my opinion of this type of turning. Cheers! Daniel
Very good video. Not sure that I would like to try it. I very much enjoy your work. Thanks
Hi Charles! Thank you very much for your comment and for watching. Believe me, I do not think I will do many of these, perhaps a platter, because that should be easier. Cheers! Daniel
Great demonstration Daniel
Hi my dear friend, thank you very much! Cheers! Daniel
Excellent video Daniel.
Hi Clifford! Thank you so much, my friend, for the comment! Cheers! Daniel
Great turning, Daniel. I won't take the challenge but appreciate the awesome job you did!
Happy turning,
.....Gord
Hi Gord! Thank you, my dear friend, for watching the video and for the comment. Turning with a chuck or a glue block or a face plate is safer. Unfortunately, in many countries people do not have access to these accessories and once in a while I try to do a video showing an alternate process. Cheers! Daniel
Hello from Ireland. Nice tips. I dont have chuck so maybe i can try this.. But i will take your advice but maybe i will stick to glue wood block or face plate, but i will be extremely careful if i try this method, thank you
Hi Ken! Thank you, my friend, for watching and commenting. Yes, the glue wood block or the face plate are preferred over this method. I just did it because there is a type of lathes that have a fixed spur center and they do not admit a threaded glue block or faceplate. But this method has several risks and should be avoided if you have other methods that are safer. Best regards, Daniel
very nice work Daniel
Hi Ian! Thank you so much, my friend, for the comments! Cheers! Daniel
Excellent tutorial 👍
Hi James! Thank you very much, my friend, I am glad you enjoyed the video! Cheers! Daniel
Very well explained!
Hi Phyllis! Thank you so much, my friend, for the comments! Cheers! Daniel
Hi Daniel, That is bowl turning on a different level. Superb work. I think I will still use my chucks though. Take care Daniel. Cheers, Huw
Hi Huw! Thank you very much, dear friend, for your nice comments. My sticker is on its way to Scotland! It was interesting to do this turning, but to tell you the truth I prefer a thousand times to use the chuck or a nice glue block. This was just a challenge and for people with very limited resources may be the only option, but if you can avoid it, do it. Cheers! Daniel
Nice demonstration of tool control, Thanks Daniel.
Hi Lyle! Thank you so much, dear friend, for your nice comments. Coming from you they mean a lot to me! I have learned a lot watching your videos and explanations and whenever possible try to demonstrate your techniques in my videos! Cheers! Daniel
Very nicely done Daniel, Thank you. however ,I don't have those great 'washboard' stomach muscles as you do??.haha
Hi Brendan! Thank you, my friend for watching and commenting! The secret, my friend, is a good beer once in a while!! Hahahahah! Cheers! Daniel
Hi Daniel , Magnificent workmanship my friend!
Cheers, Bram
Hi Bram! Thank you very much, my dear friend! Cheers! Daniel
Nicely done Daniel. I always leave my center in until the end.
Hi Mark! Yes, my friend, many turners do that. Still, depending on the bowl shape there is a moment that leaving the live center and the central wood column is more dangerous than removing it. They limit your movement and force you to place the gouge in a way that is prone to catches. I really took my time with this turning. Thanks for the comment, cheers! Daniel
Daniel Vilarino I use a negative rake carbide tool when it gets deep
Beautiful job Daniel well done.
Hi Allan! Thank you so much, dear friend, for the comment! Cheers! Daniel
Very skilful turning Daniel. I envy your tool work.
Hi Alan! Thank you, my dear friend, for your nice comments. I have to confess that I do not think I will be doing this type of bowl anytime soon, lol! I did not feel too comfortable turning in such a confined space. And a couple of times the gouge was almost beyond the support, risking a catch. But it was a challenge and I am glad I did it. Cheers! Daniel
Awesomely done!
Hi Lou! Thank you so much for the comment my friend! Cheers! Daniel
Amazing work, and perfect description! Thank you so much for sharing your considerable knowledge!
Hi my friend! Thank you so much for your kind comments! Cheers! Daniel
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Hey daniel I am just starting out turning and really like the way you explain things as you are doing them was wondering if you had a video on what diffrent tools do and on sharpening them I have a 1940's lathe and I can not change out centers so finding ideas on things to do is not to easy if you have suggestions on the subject that help me get better would be great
Thank you
Roger
Hi Roger! Thank you so much, my dear friend, for watching the video and for your nice comments. If you do not mind, I would like you to send me a picture of your lathe, with details of the head-stock, the drive center, the tail-stock, the live center and any other thing you consider important. My e-mail is danielrvs@gmail.com, in the e-mail mention that you send me this comment of the video about turning a bowl exclusively between centers. Many old lathes were designed to do just spindle work. In other words, things that tend to be long and with a relatively small (less than 2 or 3 inches) diameter. These were lathes that you could find in carpentry shops and you would find a wood turner doing balustrades, baseball bats, chair and table legs, and that sort of things, not so much bowls and plates, because that needs a face plate or a chuck. Because they were production lathes, they were dedicated to do that and the person worked exclusively doing spindles. With the modern times, production wood turning became less common with machines that can automatically do, faster and with more precision, work that took a lot of time and effort for a human. So lathe turning became more of a hobby or art and lathes now have all sort of features that allow you to work with your imagination. Still, you can do a lot of stuff in a lathe for spindles, like candle holders, pens, bottle stoppers, (besides the ones I mentioned above), plus you can purchase (cheaper) just the metal of your turning tools and turn the handles yourself, plus you can turn handles for a multitude of items, pizza cutters, rakes, shovels, kitchen utensils, etc. And, if you are careful, you can even do some bowls like the one demonstrated in the video, but it is a bit risky, probably it would be safer to do a plate, since the column would not have to be so long. Regarding tools I would say that, just for spindle work you will need a spindle gouge, a parting tool, a skew chisel and perhaps a spindle roughing gouge (many wood turners use them all the time, I just rough the pieces with a bowl gouge or the skew chisel, almost never use the spindle roughing gouge, but for a person starting probably is a good idea to have it). A bowl gouge can be used as well in spindle turning, I use it all the time, but is more useful for, as the name indicates, turning bowls. Now, there is another set of tools that are called scrapers, and particularly the carbide tip scrapers (round, square, radius square, diamond shaped) that are pretty intuitive for beginners. I prefer cutting tools to scrapers, but when I began turning I used scrapers all the time. I recently posted a video of a small bowl made out only using scrapers. Regarding sharpening, I would say that before turning you need to know very well how to sharpen your tools, I sharpen every 15 minutes or so depending on the hardness of the tool, sometimes even more often. Cutting with a sharp tools is like shaving yourself with a new blade, it is less effort and less risk of a catch. I have a complete playlist about sharpening tools, please look at the link below. I will be doing a new series soon with a new sharpening system. To have a sharpening system is always a good idea. There is a big debate about whether to sharpen with accessories or doing it free hand. My view is that for people starting, the accessories are much more accurate and you waste less metal from the tool, getting always the same sharp edge with just a couple of touches on the grinder. If you go over the more than 100 videos in my channel, you will see there many projects done only using spindle turning. Still, at some point you may consider to take the axis of the lathe to a metal turner, so that he can eliminate the driving spur center, make a Morse taper No 2 (like most lathes nowadays) on the inside, and threads of a standard type (1 1/4 inch, 8 TPI, 1 inch, 8 TPI, 3/4in 10 TPI, etc., the bigger the better) on the outside. That will open a lot of possibilities for you, but without checking the pictures is difficult to say. Sorry for the long answer, I hope this will help you. Take care of yourself and be healthy! Daniel
Sharpening Playlist:
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Hi Roger, I sent you a long answer, but it seems it has been held for review. If you want, send me your e-mail and I can send it that way too. If you received it, do not mind this comment. Cheers! Daniel
Daniel: why ? Certainly not for new turners
Hi Pablo! Thank you my dear friend for the comment. Certainly not a good idea, not even for experienced turners I must add. Some years ago, I did a couple of videos for turning bowl using faceplates and glueblocks for people who did not have chucks. I live in the States, but I know that a lot of people in the Americas and the Caribbean and in other parts of the World do not have the same access or resources that I have here, so, once in a while I try to do something using less advanced accessories. In those videos I received a couple of comments from a subscriber saying "what about people who do not have faceplates!?", the comments were issued like a challenge. I try always to show in the channel methods and techniques that are safe and sound. So I wasn't too convinced of uploading this video, and as you saw I put several comments at the start in the middle and at the end indicating the dangers of doing it this way. But I felt that I could not let the challenge go unanswered, perhaps I should not have fallen for it, but it touched my professional pride. My apologies. Big hug! Cheers! Daniel