Cannot believe they actually thought a cinematic universe with Spiderman villians without SPIDERMAN in it would be successful lol. Multi-billion dollar companies making such braindead decisions
could of been a great idea on paper. movies from the villains point of view an there origin story's would be great but there missing the most crucial part of the formula which is Spiderman himself has to show up an have a climactic battle they fucked it up
It was a good idea, but they tried to make all the villains antiheroes. They should have just told their origin story from the villains point of view based on the comics.
They could just do Spiderman 4 with Tobey and amazing Spiderman 3 and make twice as much as they made with the other two. There’s nothing stopping them and any executive that doesn’t think that would work doesn’t know anything about the fans.
_Yo, I had a crazy ass dream last night of Spider-man 4._ _It was a massive, sick battle between rage Hulk & Spidey._ _Hulk had got some of the symbiote and lost control, becoming some kinda Venom-Hulk monster, then Spidey (wit his own black suit symbiote) had to fight Hulk to get it off of him WHILE tryna save MJ from Venom-Hulk._ _Then after that, Spidey had to fight himself to get the symbiote off and lock it away somewhere._ _And yes, it was obv Tom's Peter, Zendaya's MJ (Who eventually, somehow remembered Peter) & Ruffalo's Banner & like the 2012 Avengers rage Hulk. Not the current Professor Hulk._ _Ik this ain't happening, it's jus an awesome, random dream I jus had. And you kno, you can't really control what you'll randomly dream about. Lol_ _I wish yall could've seen it tho, shit was INSANE!_
You had a dream about comic book heroes? Kinda jealous, sounds dope. My dreams are always horror movies, people I love or me even dying in brutal ways. My minds all fucked up 😂.
Hopefully theyll continue their stories in Spiderman 4, i always felt Garfields Spiderman could be a good mentor for a young Miles Morales like in the Spiderverse movie
If Marisa Tomei returns as May Parker in MCU Spider-Man 4, regardless of if it takes place on a different universe that Doom makes or not, No Way Home would've been pointless in every way. Recently, Willem Dafoe was asked if he'd be willing to return as Green Goblin in MCU Spider-Man 4, and he responded with, "We'll see." I know that MCU Spider-Man 4 is going to be another multiversal film, but if that aspect is going to take out all the emotional points of No Way Home, what was the point of the film?
The whole Sony villain universe feels like it’s just a cash grab. We can’t use any of those villains without Sony getting obscene royalties.. 75% for Spidey movies?? Not that I care to see Kraven or Morbius or Madam Web. Venom done right still will be a challenge at this point. Origin story is fkd
Talked about Kraven, showed Kraven. Talked about Spider-Man 4, showed Tom Holland. Talked about Spider-Man Noir, showed Noir and Nic Cage. Talked about the Spiderverse, and intentionally showed everybody EXCEPT Miles. 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 Let me guess, accidental coincidence right⁉️ 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
If we could just have marvel work with Sony on their Spiderverse it could be the most amazing thing. Just don’t know if Sony wants that and if marvel has the bandwidth.
I personally think Sony will now do what they should have done in the first place is making an anthology series of projects focused on multiple variations of spiderman like miles morales spider gwen spiderman 2099 spiderman noir etc
Sony relying on Spider-Man is like clinging to a lifeboat because they know without him, they’re sunk. If they sold Spider-Man back to Marvel, they could cash in big, recover from the flop of their villain movies, and finally invest in top-tier writers to build their own cinematic universe. Instead of desperately squeezing Spider-Man dry, they could focus on their incredible roster of original characters and create something truly unique. Sony has proven its storytelling potential with PlayStation’s in-house characters like Kratos (God of War), Nathan Drake (Uncharted), Aloy (Horizon Zero Dawn), Ratchet & Clank, Sackboy (LittleBigPlanet), and Jin Sakai (Ghost of Tsushima). These characters are not only well-developed but offer rich, expansive worlds perfect for a cinematic universe. Imagine the mythological depth of God of War crossing paths with the futuristic landscapes of Horizon or the action-packed adventures of Uncharted woven into a larger narrative. It’s time for Sony to hand comic book storytelling back to Marvel, whose expertise and track record in that arena are unmatched. Sony should lean into what they do best: video game storytelling. By adapting their PlayStation characters, they could forge a cinematic universe that rivals anything Marvel or DC has done-this time, entirely their own.
Agreed. I was honestly just about to ramble something basically the same as this. If them trying to do stuff that isn’t working, doesn’t work, they probably shouldn’t do it. And the fact that they are using marvel to help them with their Spider-Man movies, like just give the rights back at that point. If your company has to piggyback off of another company just to make something fans like, then just give the control back go who you’re piggybacking off of.
If anything is going to get me interested in spider-noir it’s the fact that Nicholas Cage is leading the series. That is what might get me into the series. That fact that ‘the Cage’ is headlining a Spider-Man series.
If people would just stop comparing these comic book movies to real world scenarios and just made them comic book movies. Ya know unrealistic. They'd probably make good movies.
Spiderman is a Marvel Universe brand, and it should not be changed under any circumstances. Stan Lee would be shocked a bit annoyed with how this is going, and he would have used anything to stop this issue from going any further by changing his mind as to who is in charge of trying to destroy the universe he created. Sony should look to Stan Lees' legacy as a promise to keep the universe he created a live in his name. It is a hornarble to Stan Lees' family to keep doing the way Stan intended his creations to be seen. If Sony is hornets?
Sony cinema should have created a few characters or criminal empire, one called Za Beau Tage, and another called Wall Crawler. It was a good try and someone out there loves these flicks.
It’s just so laughable. Why was it so hard for them to just put Andrew Garfield as their Universes Spider-Man and have the movies be from the point of view of the villains and how they view Spider-Man. People would have packed out every theatre for that just as they did for no way home. It was the obvious choice to just make him the Spider-Man and have it be in the universe of the old TASM movies or a new one.
I think Kevin Feige should do the full 100% creative control IP rights of Spider-Man properties and his 900 characters in the MCU (Marvel Studios) without Avi Arad and Matt Tolmach footsteps
I wish also other marvel movies should have prospect MCU in underlying of Multiverse like Doctor Strange and Dr Doom in Secret Wars. I think probably Spiderman 4 will make through MCU and some other cameos too like Deadpool and other marvel characters.
Cannot believe they actually thought a cinematic universe with Spiderman villians without SPIDERMAN in it would be successful lol. Multi-billion dollar companies making such braindead decisions
could of been a great idea on paper. movies from the villains point of view an there origin story's would be great but there missing the most crucial part of the formula which is Spiderman himself has to show up an have a climactic battle they fucked it up
They really are creatively bankrupt
It’s a cool idea but the executives, adr team, and movie writers ruined it.
Sony doesn’t have 1 creative bone in their body
It was a good idea, but they tried to make all the villains antiheroes. They should have just told their origin story from the villains point of view based on the comics.
Can't even imagine building up a Spider-Man Cinematic Universe without the Webslinger himself
Finally the end of Sony's dumb experiment. So sad fans will never experience a good venom movie introduction with Spider-Man
Sony is finally going to stop Sonying
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"Hahahahahahaha!!! Finally!!!"
Yep, the SonyVerse is absolutely done.
They could just do Spiderman 4 with Tobey and amazing Spiderman 3 and make twice as much as they made with the other two. There’s nothing stopping them and any executive that doesn’t think that would work doesn’t know anything about the fans.
Could Oscar Isaac as Miguel be the evil Spiderman Variant Doom recruits ??? And the characters from Moon Knight see him ??
that’s awesome
_Yo, I had a crazy ass dream last night of Spider-man 4._
_It was a massive, sick battle between rage Hulk & Spidey._
_Hulk had got some of the symbiote and lost control, becoming some kinda Venom-Hulk monster, then Spidey (wit his own black suit symbiote) had to fight Hulk to get it off of him WHILE tryna save MJ from Venom-Hulk._
_Then after that, Spidey had to fight himself to get the symbiote off and lock it away somewhere._
_And yes, it was obv Tom's Peter, Zendaya's MJ (Who eventually, somehow remembered Peter) & Ruffalo's Banner & like the 2012 Avengers rage Hulk. Not the current Professor Hulk._
_Ik this ain't happening, it's jus an awesome, random dream I jus had. And you kno, you can't really control what you'll randomly dream about. Lol_
_I wish yall could've seen it tho, shit was INSANE!_
You had a dream about comic book heroes? Kinda jealous, sounds dope. My dreams are always horror movies, people I love or me even dying in brutal ways. My minds all fucked up 😂.
I want more Tobey Maguire and Andrew Garfield spiderman movies
Sam Raimi's Spiderman 4 with Tobey Maguire and The Amazing Spiderman 3 with Andrew Garfield.
Hopefully theyll continue their stories in Spiderman 4, i always felt Garfields Spiderman could be a good mentor for a young Miles Morales like in the Spiderverse movie
If Marisa Tomei returns as May Parker in MCU Spider-Man 4, regardless of if it takes place on a different universe that Doom makes or not, No Way Home would've been pointless in every way. Recently, Willem Dafoe was asked if he'd be willing to return as Green Goblin in MCU Spider-Man 4, and he responded with, "We'll see." I know that MCU Spider-Man 4 is going to be another multiversal film, but if that aspect is going to take out all the emotional points of No Way Home, what was the point of the film?
honestly, why don't they just put their villians in the mcu? They would be more sucessful in a universe that was ACTUALLY going somewhere
Sony needs to stop
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂!!!
SPIDER-MAN LES GOO
People are saying that after Secret Wars Sony is going to pull Spiderman out of the MCU again.
The whole Sony villain universe feels like it’s just a cash grab. We can’t use any of those villains without Sony getting obscene royalties.. 75% for Spidey movies?? Not that I care to see Kraven or Morbius or Madam Web. Venom done right still will be a challenge at this point. Origin story is fkd
Talked about Kraven, showed Kraven. Talked about Spider-Man 4, showed Tom Holland. Talked about Spider-Man Noir, showed Noir and Nic Cage. Talked about the Spiderverse, and intentionally showed everybody EXCEPT Miles. 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 Let me guess, accidental coincidence right⁉️ 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
If we could just have marvel work with Sony on their Spiderverse it could be the most amazing thing. Just don’t know if Sony wants that and if marvel has the bandwidth.
I personally think Sony will now do what they should have done in the first place is making an anthology series of projects focused on multiple variations of spiderman like miles morales spider gwen spiderman 2099 spiderman noir etc
I wonder if Madam Web will be like a cult classic bad film in 20 or 30 years like Plan B From Outer Space or just forgotten.
FINALLY!
One of the worst conceived and even worse executed ideas in entertainment history. Glad they are pulling the plug.
Sony relying on Spider-Man is like clinging to a lifeboat because they know without him, they’re sunk. If they sold Spider-Man back to Marvel, they could cash in big, recover from the flop of their villain movies, and finally invest in top-tier writers to build their own cinematic universe. Instead of desperately squeezing Spider-Man dry, they could focus on their incredible roster of original characters and create something truly unique.
Sony has proven its storytelling potential with PlayStation’s in-house characters like Kratos (God of War), Nathan Drake (Uncharted), Aloy (Horizon Zero Dawn), Ratchet & Clank, Sackboy (LittleBigPlanet), and Jin Sakai (Ghost of Tsushima). These characters are not only well-developed but offer rich, expansive worlds perfect for a cinematic universe. Imagine the mythological depth of God of War crossing paths with the futuristic landscapes of Horizon or the action-packed adventures of Uncharted woven into a larger narrative.
It’s time for Sony to hand comic book storytelling back to Marvel, whose expertise and track record in that arena are unmatched. Sony should lean into what they do best: video game storytelling. By adapting their PlayStation characters, they could forge a cinematic universe that rivals anything Marvel or DC has done-this time, entirely their own.
Agreed. I was honestly just about to ramble something basically the same as this. If them trying to do stuff that isn’t working, doesn’t work, they probably shouldn’t do it. And the fact that they are using marvel to help them with their Spider-Man movies, like just give the rights back at that point. If your company has to piggyback off of another company just to make something fans like, then just give the control back go who you’re piggybacking off of.
I'm Kraven for more.
sell all the spiderman properties back to marvel for 5 bill
Canceling The Amazing Spider-Man 3 and making only his villains movies is a crime
If i could like this again, i would
Go bankrupt Sony
Let mcu make the movies and split the money. Ez dubs
If Sony smart, they should just give Spiderman rights to Disney
Stop. Just stop sony. Leave Spiderman to the experts
My biggest takeaway is that I 100% know WYM
Good actors also need to stay well away from Sony. Sony is out here ruining careers.
Even Spider-Man Noir is tarded. That should go too.
SpongeBob meme got the thumbs up😅 normally I wait near the end😅
If anything is going to get me interested in spider-noir it’s the fact that Nicholas Cage is leading the series. That is what might get me into the series. That fact that ‘the Cage’ is headlining a Spider-Man series.
Venom can work without Spiderman but what we got was the same movie and plot 3 times
Spider-Man Noir will do really well i bet
Give Marvel Peter and Sony should build on Miles.
If people would just stop comparing these comic book movies to real world scenarios and just made them comic book movies. Ya know unrealistic. They'd probably make good movies.
It would be great to see a continuation of Andrew Garfield’s Spiderman Universe!
🤘🏿🤘🏿
Good Riddance, I wish Sony Pictures NEVER existed, Spider-Man should always belong to Marvel Studios.
Idk about that but yeah I hear you
The Penguin works without batman
More than likely and hopefully noir wont suck but im not sure with sony without the mcu
Spiderman is a Marvel Universe brand, and it should not be changed under any circumstances. Stan Lee would be shocked a bit annoyed with how this is going, and he would have used anything to stop this issue from going any further by changing his mind as to who is in charge of trying to destroy the universe he created. Sony should look to Stan Lees' legacy as a promise to keep the universe he created a live in his name. It is a hornarble to Stan Lees' family to keep doing the way Stan intended his creations to be seen. If Sony is hornets?
Sony cinema should have created a few characters or criminal empire, one called Za Beau Tage, and another called Wall Crawler.
It was a good try and someone out there loves these flicks.
It's obviously the SSUWS (Sony's Spiderman UniversWithout SpSpiderma) 🤣😂😂😂
Sony ends their spinoff , deicdes to introduce chameleon
It’s just so laughable. Why was it so hard for them to just put Andrew Garfield as their Universes Spider-Man and have the movies be from the point of view of the villains and how they view Spider-Man. People would have packed out every theatre for that just as they did for no way home. It was the obvious choice to just make him the Spider-Man and have it be in the universe of the old TASM movies or a new one.
Im guessing Garfield only wants to be involved if the movies are in the MCU
I recently watched the entire Venom trilogy, the entire thing is hot garbage.
Sony just needs to keep renewing the licensing deal till the mcu is completely dead.
They will be moving over to marvel were they belong and current actors will reprise the roles
Sony needs to work withbthe mcu and earn more money than what they lost with their spiderless movies
I think Kevin Feige should do the full 100% creative control IP rights of Spider-Man properties and his 900 characters in the MCU (Marvel Studios) without Avi Arad and Matt Tolmach footsteps
I wish also other marvel movies should have prospect MCU in underlying of Multiverse like Doctor Strange and Dr Doom in Secret Wars. I think
probably Spiderman 4 will make through MCU and some other cameos too like Deadpool and other marvel characters.
Andrew Garfield Spiderman better return in Doomsday.
The radical spider dudes
Tom Hardy isn't coming back
Bout damn time
Waaaaaa
sony spider girl movie in 2025 today now yes 😍😍😍😍😍😍😍
sony spider girl movie in 2025 today now yes 😍😍😍😍😍
MCU is next. People are gonna watch Daredevil and then by summer the universe will be dead.
Lol, good ridens
TOM HOLLAND NEEDS TO GO HE SUCKS
Do not start Tom Holland is fine so you need to be positive
MILES SUCKS ASS , SJW CHARACTER WE DONT NEED!!!!!
When has he ever been a social justice warrior? Sounds like you have no idea who he even is.
sony spider girl movie in 2025 today now yes 😍😍😍😍