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@@KingJudah12 All the best HC's in history lost their jobs before they were ready to retire... Pro-bowl players don't always get resigned. We live in a funny world, go with the flow.
@@MuggleKarpI agree, but there's been an indictment on Jerod Mayo way before the season started. We all know the real reason people want Mayo fired. People had a problem with Cam Newton, and Jacoby Brissett. All this Mayo hate is sickening. Let's not forget that all of this is a product of Eliot Wolf.
Change head coach. Bring in Vrabel or Ben Johnson. Use draft to make trades that land the Arizona receiver and West Virginia tackle. Then you have two starters first round draft picks. Not certain you’ll land T Higgins even if you reset the receiver market with an offer.
If the players like the OC and DC so much then they should play HARDER for them, when players like a coach they play hard for them so that they keep their jobs
Besides the obvious things like good players at all positions or coaching staff, I think the Patriots need to establish both a solid playstyle, playback and team identity.
The defense played better when they were on the field less. They need an offensive line first and foremost all the time every day. After that D-Line, and then 2 "pretty good" or one great receiver. I think they could be a .500 team or better with just a few o-line upgrades and some better interior run defense.
What’s the difference? We’re still gonna suck crap will only win three games next year due to the fact that craft won’t spend a dollar on anybody decent like Mike Rabel and McDaniels so we’re still gonna win three games next year you can talk to your blue in the face he’s not gonna dummy up the money to pay those guys no way in hell no effing way.
changes i would make: NEW HC: bring in mike vrabel. NEW OC: try to bring back bill o’brien or try to get ben johnson. NEW DC: change jerod mayo to dc. NEW WR COACH: try to bring in edelman, or amendola. NEW OLINE COACH: idk oline coaches but we need someone with experience. NEW DLINE COACH: again idk dline coaches but need someone with experience NEW SAFTIES COACH: try to bring in one of the mccourty brothers. low chances of this EVER happening but it seems like it would work out for the team.
AVP has gotten more out of this offense than I thought possible. Much of it has been Maye, but other than the tight ends, every other position is average to below average. If they had 1 top level wide receiver, even leaving the O line the way it is, they would have won 3 or 4 more games because that stud receiver would have required the defense to focus on him, opening up all the other receivers and Maye would pick them apart. The biggest problem with this team is the defense.
Unless their is a clear ans obvious upgrade for OC, i think AVP needs to stay. Its incredibly important for Maye to have some consistantly going into his sophmore season. The offense is better on paper and via eye test compared to last season..but the defense has taken a HUGE step back. Covington needs to go imo. I'm also kinda sick that Mayo is gonna be here into next season too lol
It's hard decision to make period! Vrabel has experience a winning record, a championship appearance (Nashville), super bowl experience as a player - more than one! I mean what's Mayo done so far except let the circus run wild? The media has feasted on this team all season. If Mayo stays we need a DC, we need a WRC, a new LB coach. If there is going to be that much of a change then you mine as well change everything and bring in Vrabel and Mc Daniels. Let Mayo move to DC if he'd be willing to make that move. Doubt it!
I think what makes us a .500 team is a loaded question Coaching malpractice I believe is the key issue. Look at chargers for instance. You get the right people in the building the can rebuild your franchise. The bills game showed some level of promise but changes need to be made in the offseason We also do have one of if not the least talented roster in the nfl. I played college football and wouldn’t consider myself an expert, but look around the league now. The most successful nfl teams have 3 things 1. Dominant OL/DL 2. Good QB Play 3. Great coaching That to me is the key. We have our QB, now build the trenches and our staff up. I would go all in on Tee Higgins and OL/DL in the draft. Ensure your coordinators and analyst are all fit and good at there jobs. Everything else can wait until year 3 of the rebuild I believe even in a year, that is enough to make us a 6-9 win football team
Dysfunctional organizations fire the coaches every year. Bears, Raiders, Jets, Giants. The problem is Bob Kraft. We had a chance to get Calvin Ridley. Too cheap. We could’ve resigned Uche & Judon. Too cheap. Remember Joe Thuney? We could’ve kept him. Too cheap. See a pattern?
It's too early to throw Mayo out. The Defense is playing well the offense has been very good considering the offensive line gives Maye less time to make a throw than any other team in the league If a change is needed than change The offensive line coach. Maye has been unbelievable considering what he's got to work with.
Here's my coaching change i want to happen during this off-season: -Fire or demote Mayo back to linebacker coach. -Demote AVP to QB coach -Fire Covington -Fire Tyler Hughes -Fire Scott Peters -Keep Jeremy Springer -Hire Mike Vrabel -Hire Robert Saleh -Hire any Talented and Innovative OC like Ben Johnson -Hire a better WR Coach that can develop our young receivers to their highest potential -Hire a better Oline Coach that can develop our young lineman to their highest potential. -Fire Elliott Wolf and the scouting staff. -Let Vrabel Hire the Best GM and Scouting Staff.
Data don't lie. Thunder hired him thru his instincts. Thunder is the decider. He has an ego. I believe nothing will change. He will keep Mayo. Mayo will learn on the job and the fans will suffer.
Drake Maye highlights on Alex Van Pelt: “A Bunch of conversations about our coaching staff and things like that. I think it's some BS, to be quite honest. Coach Mayo, we've got his back. He's coaching us hard. He wants to win. We all want to win. We're all frustrated. AVP has been, I feel like, calling it great these last couple weeks. We're just plays away. It's me turning the ball over.”
FIRE ALL COACHES Hire Mike Vrabel & Josh Mcdaniels Release Stevenson w/ his fumbling self Release Polk Clear the whole O-line except for Andrew's & Strange
Fire mayo not avp maye is doing good avp i believe is doing pretty well considering dont keep throwing oc at drake look what we did too mac he had 3 in 3 years
We need to trade the second pick gather more draft capital if tmac or campbell or banks or adual carter o will johnson take the best talent where we land then grab wyatt milum second
Keep mayo…… he’s still learning let him and maye learn get rid of avp and Covington give him a chance next year if he doesn’t go good next year get rid of him
Yea you don’t get rid of AVP. Hes done a great job developing Maye, and that would fuck the kid. Have yall learned nothing from Mac. The worse thing we can do for this kid is giving him new OC’s every year. AVP has been the best coach on the team, and the most consistent all season long. The offense has no pieces beside Maye, and he has had us in most of our games. Covington 100% should go, because he is in way over his head, and doesn’t know how to adjust. Mayo should have taken the defense over fully after week three.
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We should have Mayo call the defense
Wide receiver coach needs to be gone
This is facts
*Head Coach: Vrabel*
*Offensive Coordinator: McDaniels*
*Defensive Coordinator: Saleh*
Or dabol DC
Perfect, 3 guys that lost their jobs....
Oooh that's a fucken dream coaching list I love it
@@KingJudah12 All the best HC's in history lost their jobs before they were ready to retire... Pro-bowl players don't always get resigned. We live in a funny world, go with the flow.
@@MuggleKarpI agree, but there's been an indictment on Jerod Mayo way before the season started. We all know the real reason people want Mayo fired. People had a problem with Cam Newton, and Jacoby Brissett. All this Mayo hate is sickening. Let's not forget that all of this is a product of Eliot Wolf.
Change head coach. Bring in Vrabel or Ben Johnson. Use draft to make trades that land the Arizona receiver and West Virginia tackle. Then you have two starters first round draft picks. Not certain you’ll land T Higgins even if you reset the receiver market with an offer.
Love that nobody talk about wyatt Milam out of WV dude hasn't allowed any sacks in like 3 or 4 years
Patriots team stats vs. Bills:
Passing 1st downs: 13
3rd down conversion: 7/12
4th down conversion: 2/2
Red Zone: 2/3
Penalties: 5
Need a staff that can develop receivers and New England can’t.
If the players like the OC and DC so much then they should play HARDER for them, when players like a coach they play hard for them so that they keep their jobs
Fire all the coaches and Wolf!!!!!
Besides the obvious things like good players at all positions or coaching staff, I think the Patriots need to establish both a solid playstyle, playback and team identity.
The defense played better when they were on the field less. They need an offensive line first and foremost all the time every day. After that D-Line, and then 2 "pretty good" or one great receiver. I think they could be a .500 team or better with just a few o-line upgrades and some better interior run defense.
apparently they cant develop wide receivers haven’t been able to in years i bet if our wr started somewhere else they would be better
I honestly don’t expect any changes. Just filling in gaps in the draft The players just need to play better 🤷♂️. Especially O line and WR
What headset do you use? I have a podcast and am looking to improve audio quality
It wasn’t a back shoulder TD to Boutte 😂 it was an over the shoulder regular TD catch. 😂
What’s the difference? We’re still gonna suck crap will only win three games next year due to the fact that craft won’t spend a dollar on anybody decent like Mike Rabel and McDaniels so we’re still gonna win three games next year you can talk to your blue in the face he’s not gonna dummy up the money to pay those guys no way in hell no effing way.
Missing: OL, DL studs!!
What is New England missing to be a .500 team?
OLine, Star WRs
Yeah, unfortunately all the Assistant coaches and coordinators will be the sacrificial lambs when in reality, they should fire Mayo and everybody else
changes i would make:
NEW HC: bring in mike vrabel.
NEW OC: try to bring back bill o’brien or try to get ben johnson.
NEW DC: change jerod mayo to dc.
NEW WR COACH: try to bring in edelman, or amendola.
NEW OLINE COACH: idk oline coaches but we need someone with experience.
NEW DLINE COACH: again idk dline coaches but need someone with experience
NEW SAFTIES COACH: try to bring in one of the mccourty brothers.
low chances of this EVER happening but it seems like it would work out for the team.
OC/DC. Is that a new rock band?
Travis hunter our first pick
AVP has gotten more out of this offense than I thought possible. Much of it has been Maye, but other than the tight ends, every other position is average to below average. If they had 1 top level wide receiver, even leaving the O line the way it is, they would have won 3 or 4 more games because that stud receiver would have required the defense to focus on him, opening up all the other receivers and Maye would pick them apart. The biggest problem with this team is the defense.
We need a super star number 1 wr and pass rush , good line
First and foremost we need a dominate 0-Line. That means taking best L-OT in first round.
We need a wide receiver coach
Unless their is a clear ans obvious upgrade for OC, i think AVP needs to stay. Its incredibly important for Maye to have some consistantly going into his sophmore season.
The offense is better on paper and via eye test compared to last season..but the defense has taken a HUGE step back. Covington needs to go imo. I'm also kinda sick that Mayo is gonna be here into next season too lol
It's hard decision to make period! Vrabel has experience a winning record, a championship appearance (Nashville), super bowl experience as a player - more than one!
I mean what's Mayo done so far except let the circus run wild? The media has feasted on this team all season.
If Mayo stays we need a DC, we need a WRC, a new LB coach. If there is going to be that much of a change then you mine as well change everything and bring in Vrabel and Mc Daniels. Let Mayo move to DC if he'd be willing to make that move. Doubt it!
I am in no position to know or judge.
Get rid of Mayo, OC and DC.
DC and Wide recievers coach, the WRs have been a problem for half a decade
I think what makes us a .500 team is a loaded question
Coaching malpractice I believe is the key issue. Look at chargers for instance. You get the right people in the building the can rebuild your franchise. The bills game showed some level of promise but changes need to be made in the offseason
We also do have one of if not the least talented roster in the nfl. I played college football and wouldn’t consider myself an expert, but look around the league now. The most successful nfl teams have 3 things
1. Dominant OL/DL
2. Good QB Play
3. Great coaching
That to me is the key. We have our QB, now build the trenches and our staff up. I would go all in on Tee Higgins and OL/DL in the draft. Ensure your coordinators and analyst are all fit and good at there jobs. Everything else can wait until year 3 of the rebuild
I believe even in a year, that is enough to make us a 6-9 win football team
Is it possible to bring in Vrable without deleting Jerod
Bye Bye Mayo!
That backwards pass that ended in a td was the only problem we would’ve won if it wasn’t for that
Not the only problem but the killer for sure.
Dysfunctional organizations fire the coaches every year. Bears, Raiders, Jets, Giants. The problem is Bob Kraft. We had a chance to get Calvin Ridley. Too cheap. We could’ve resigned Uche & Judon. Too cheap. Remember Joe Thuney? We could’ve kept him. Too cheap. See a pattern?
Get rid off mayo !! And avp and some other coaches!!!
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It's too early to throw Mayo out. The Defense is playing well the offense has been very good considering the offensive line gives Maye less time to make a throw than any other team in the league If a change is needed than change The offensive line coach. Maye has been unbelievable considering what he's got to work with.
No it's not. Mayo should be fired. Ultimately he is responsible.
Here's my coaching change i want to happen during this off-season:
-Fire or demote Mayo back to linebacker coach.
-Demote AVP to QB coach
-Fire Covington
-Fire Tyler Hughes
-Fire Scott Peters
-Keep Jeremy Springer
-Hire Mike Vrabel
-Hire Robert Saleh
-Hire any Talented and Innovative OC like Ben Johnson
-Hire a better WR Coach that can develop our young receivers to their highest potential
-Hire a better Oline Coach that can develop our young lineman to their highest potential.
-Fire Elliott Wolf and the scouting staff.
-Let Vrabel Hire the Best GM and Scouting Staff.
So who would be HC and OC?
@@stevenearle5857Didn't I just said Hire Mike Vrabel as HC and hire a Talented and Innovative OC like Ben Johnson?
@@stevenearle5857Vrabel would be the hc, unclear oc according to this proposal
Data don't lie. Thunder hired him thru his instincts. Thunder is the decider. He has an ego. I believe nothing will change. He will keep Mayo. Mayo will learn on the job and the fans will suffer.
The entire coaching team should go. Kraft made multiple big mistakes.
Drake Maye highlights on Alex Van Pelt:
“A Bunch of conversations about our coaching staff and things like that. I think it's some BS, to be quite honest. Coach Mayo, we've got his back. He's coaching us hard. He wants to win. We all want to win. We're all frustrated. AVP has been, I feel like, calling it great these last couple weeks. We're just plays away. It's me turning the ball over.”
Bring robert Salah defense coordinator
If the coordinators are not elite top of the line. Get rid of them and the players that don't cut it
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Should Patriots fire one or both OC/DC? Type ‘1’ for one of the two Type ‘B’ for Both
Fire Covington, Keep AVP for 1 more year don't put Maye in a Mac Jones situation where he has a different OC every year
1 (DC)
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Stevenson fumbles way too much, we need a more reliable running back.
Usually ball security can be coached up.
At this point everybody, but Mayo needs to lose they job
Clear house top to bottom
HC needs to go. DC needs to go.
Travis hunter
Get a new broom and sweep clean! What happens when we're 2-15 or 1-16 in 2025?
Jerod, the "I only see color" coach, his color, needs to go. Say no to racism of any kind!!
Bye mayo hello vrabel
FIRE ALL COACHES
Hire Mike Vrabel & Josh Mcdaniels
Release Stevenson w/ his fumbling self
Release Polk
Clear the whole O-line except for Andrew's & Strange
FIRE MAYO!!!! MAYO GOTTA GO!!!! FIRE COVINGTON! HIRE VRABEL HC, McDANIELS/DABOLL OC , SALEH/EBERFLUS DC, AVP QB Coach!
Fire mayo not avp maye is doing good avp i believe is doing pretty well considering dont keep throwing oc at drake look what we did too mac he had 3 in 3 years
We need to trade the second pick gather more draft capital if tmac or campbell or banks or adual carter o will johnson take the best talent where we land then grab wyatt milum second
Allvthe stagg
Don’t bet the future in the hope that Mayo improves.
We should sign David Backtiari he still a free agent and we need a better line
To late now.
he's the wrong color for "I see color" Mayo.
Well it looks like their staying with Mayo as HC. But they need a new O C. and maybe a D.C. maybe some better scouts also.
Keep mayo…… he’s still learning let him and maye learn get rid of avp and Covington give him a chance next year if he doesn’t go good next year get rid of him
They aren’t going to convince any good coordinators to come coach under a bum like Mayo.
Yea you don’t get rid of AVP. Hes done a great job developing Maye, and that would fuck the kid. Have yall learned nothing from Mac. The worse thing we can do for this kid is giving him new OC’s every year. AVP has been the best coach on the team, and the most consistent all season long. The offense has no pieces beside Maye, and he has had us in most of our games. Covington 100% should go, because he is in way over his head, and doesn’t know how to adjust. Mayo should have taken the defense over fully after week three.
VRABEL OUR HEAD COACH! OFFENSIVE COACH MACDANIEL! DEFENSED COACH JARED MAYO HOPEFULLY NEXT SEASON.
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