Mob James Lying, He Wasn’t With Suge When Vanilla Ice Got Punked. Suge Didn’t Hang Him Over Balcony!
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- Опубліковано 8 чер 2022
- Mario "Chocolate" Johnson gives his reaction to the classic trainwreck interview Vanilla Ice did on the Arsenio Hall show and details the infamous incident between Suge Knight and Vanilla Ice.
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Vanilla Ice said it himself that nothing happened. Suge just kinda leaned over the balcony and looked down making a comment and Vanilla Ice got scared saying he thought Suge would toss him down so he agreed to whatever was on the contact just to avoid the situation lol
Stories always get something added or taken away because it sounds better for the listener.
Vanilla said it happened at one point too.
Exactly! I remember that. "He walks me out onto the balcony, kinda look over...see how high up there you are..." Never said he got hung over!
And it helps images movements etc to sell records
But he didnt agree to anything he didnt sign anyhting they went to court over it and he lost. VLAD had the lawyer on that did the paper work on it all.
It would be in Ice best interest to change up that story because he was in the presence of some *real gangsters* and things happened.
Ask yourself why an artist would sign all his points over to a man that granted is a songwriter, but never performed.
Seems like Mobb & Keefie do alot of lying in these interviews
We know but keef is hella funny 😂😂
Reggie too
A lot* You need a space.
@@jamessmith7205 ok grammar detective.....🤣🤣🤣
@@SimusSays..... Yo, I just want you to be on-point, impeccable with your words.
I remember that interview. "He walks me out onto the balcony, kinda look over...see how high up there you are..." Never said he got hung over!
Facts
"Mob James was always around suge."
"Na, Mob James wasn't around."
Yeah contradiction
No contradiction, Mob James wasnt around when Suge & Chocolate were doing their business with Vanilla Ice, but was around Suge other times, simple.
@@bigsimon6753 you can't say that, when he said "he was never around my business" if that's true how you know Mob James than? Cause suge sure af wasn't hanging with you cause you was cool. They had business. So it is a contradiction.
@@punchabunchofbuttons214 No it's not a contradiction, Mob James was not in on Chocolates business meetings with Ice in various hotels, Chocolate knows Mob james because Chocolate hung out at Deathrow
@@bigsimon6753 that's your perspective not mine.
Shout out to DJ Quik playa hamm and the penthouse playas ! My boys !!! Memories!💯💯❤️❤️
Damn Funky Enough Records
Yeah they was dope! That Trac with Eazy was 🔥🔥🔥🔥 Don't trust no!
@@gangstamack8397 I thought it was fern hill records ?
@@vincepreston9304 that was one of the very first G Funk tracks
Art PLEASE LISTEN TO THIS ADVICE.... Ask your questions one at a time. It will improve the quality of your interviews. You have a habit of asking two and three questions at one time without allowing a person to answer the initial question. You also have a habit of asking a question and then saying "I heard......". Allow the guest to answer brother. Just some constructive criticism.
START YOUR OWN PLATFORM. JUST CONSTRUCTIVE CRITICISM
@@streetgossipnews1049 I appreciate the suggestion.
Yeah he crams his questions into 1
@@streetgossipnews1049 😂😂
@@lyricalabyss that's Art's lil brother defending him......don't take it personal, he just loves him 😏
Vanilla Ice actually been humble since he started in the music business, dude kept to himself while everyone trashed him over the years.
Agreed.
But Is He Not Trash🤷🏾♂️🤣🤣
@@Wishful96 depends on what your definition of trash is…everybody knew then and now he can’t write worth a damn..Chocs a lyricist but he probably scratching a 9-5 everyday. Vanilla doing aight and ain’t had to do a “show” in 20 plus years….what’s trash?
Humble? And stayed to himself? What are you smoking?
Vanilla Ice tried to make a comeback album in the 90s rapping about weed... AFTER every other black rapper had already been doing that since the Chronic went platinum as soon as it released.
Even black hip hop magazines gave Vanilla Ice a chance with interviews... iirc a cover story, a couple page spread, etc BEFORE his album came out in the near mid 90s
And what can Vanilla Ice do but only tell his side of the story when he basically got caught red handed telling lies which is what destroyed trust in him cause he got caught on MTV or some report interview where he basically lied on public television about his hit single "Ice Ice Baby" not sampling the Rockland Queen's "Under Pressure" musical arrangement and arguably it made his case worse because afterwards the band Queen filed a bigger lawsuit on him and subsequently Vanilla Ice attracted OTHER musical acts to do the same on rappers which sparked the sample lawsuits of the late 80s early 90s...
So if Vanilla Ice was lying about the sample on television and lying about his background on Arsenio Hall Show by bringing a transient junkie Flavor Flav (who has come clean saying he was doing Hella drugs and had problems with Chuck D because of that) so Flavor Flav showing up to somehow legitimize Vanilla Ice on a black show host television talk show... is just highly suspect...
Iirc Arsenio Hall didn't really have a problem with Vanilla Ice but some of the stuff he was doing didn't add up... otherwise the Beastie Boys and 3rd Bass where other white rappers who just never had the mainstream approval of 80s white dominated media where they wouldn't allow hip hop music on radio stations or even MTV until Yo MTV Raps happened.
So Vanilla Ice had to stay away afterwards in the 90s because if he exposed himself acting fake, hip hop fans would see it and have no credibility for him.
He been lying about his past since he started too
And people believe Mobb James like what he be saying is the gospel smh
Him and Reggie Wright. They be lying like hell
Mob James, Reggie Wright Jr & Sr,
Keefe D, Greg Kading are all lying
I never believed anything he said.He's just another guy hustling the interview circuit.Good way to stack some coin.
Bro if people keep giving you money, to tell stories you gonna start making up shit to keep the bag coming in😆the moment it gets boring, you know they ain't calling your ass back
@@phillyphiltheking Reggie Wright is the worst
In his Vlad interview Mob James specifically says he doesn’t know anything about Vanilla Ice being hung over a balcony
Mob James like to change his stories.
Like when he told Vlad he saw(with his own eyes)Pac spit on people.
But then he was called out for lying.
Then he changed his story to ,his brother told him,to buntry wrote about it in his diary.
Facts ppl don’t listen mob James never said he was there for a balcony sittuation
@@ammautubbah2380 He Actually Has
It's not about that.Its about him being with suge that day.He lied you 🤡
@@realtalk37851 So how suge get in the Mob?
I wasn't there either.
But I do know that Vanilla Ice claimed that the run in with Suge Knight and his crew of football player looking bodyguards happened on at least a COUPLE of occasions. NOT JUST ONE! Chocolate and David Kenner can NEVER be mistaken for bodyguards. This man still has a 12 year old body. So I believe Mob James is telling the TRUTH. Maybe it is a separate run in/business meeting Chocolate is talking about. Or it happened before he got there. Plus in that SAME interview on DateLine Vanilla Ice said the bodyguards ruffed his crew up and Suge had him look over the balcony. NOT hung him by the ankles like BIG RED DAVIS FROM BIG RED RECORDS 📀did Bird on The Five Heartbeats. ©2022
I agree with your theories. Maybe Mobb James wasn't there that time, but Vanilla Ice did say that Suge saw him at other places. I will say that I think that Suge using the girls to get to Vanilla Ice is a believable story. And as for what happened in the meeting, the most likely scenario is that Suge threatened Vanilla. I don't think it was a business meeting where Vanilla Ice had the choice to "get his lawyers" to participate.
This dude seems to be lying himself
Ive watched Vanilla Ice said Suge held him over a balcony. Suge brought Mario and an attorney to get the writer properly paid for his work.
Vanilla Ice stories change more often than Snoop's. 🤥🤥
You can say whatever you want but that record Ice Ice Baby only works at that time with Vanilla Ice 🤷🏿♂️
What exactly do you mean?
Word shyt was wack but it was a novelty record.
Vanilla Ice and Chocolate...who's the next guest? Macadamia Nut
Lollll!
Followed by Neapolitan up next
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@Vadge Maguire don’t forget he lets them talk the whole time 😂😂 vlad will make you forget what you have to say
Vlod?! ( Soulja Boy voice) 👎🏾👎🏾
@@coopc97 Facts
@@tl6752 So true
This background with the drums looks very familiar !
Vlad Jr
Yupp😂😂
Shots fired 😂
Lol vlad last week made a comment about Art of Dialogue stealing his color scheme for his logo 🤣.
@@chinoejio chess not checkers ♟
Keefe D saying he telling a got dayum lie! Dayum 😭🤣🤣
Man I don’t even believe anyone anymore 😂one person says something and then someone comes out and says it’s a lie
FACTS
Facts
It's been almost 25years bro. They all forgot what happened. They just cooking up stories to make money from these youtubers
@@blackwhite2361 facts
Mobb James a whole fraud 😂
Bro, great interview Choc is a legend in the Game in L.A. His brother TJ is another one and his Nephew Slim Da Mobster would be a great interview.
Got to admit I feel like chocolate lying about the situation lol but I also don't think suge actually hung him over the balcony
Suge probably threatened vanilla ice and his bodyguards who was with him and had them punked.
@@fightgamer8311 dj earthquake done an interview where he says suge grabbed ices man by the neck and showed him a 38 and said this is my city and ice kept hollering and suge said shut up before I throw yiu off the balcony lol
Yeah I feel the same.. CHocolate was lying when he was shaking his head no during that question.. SOmething he is holding back for sure~!!!
@@mpix00 I feel like he's staying loyal to Suge bc Suge got him paid.
Yeah this nigga lying...He covering up..Everybody knows Suge Pressed Vanilla Ice to sign over the rights to Ice Ice baby to finance Death Row records..Mobb James was one of the Main niggas Suge ran around with he said it himself..Chocolate been lying and changing his story...He is not creditable and is the benefited of saying Suge didn't do it...
I thought this was Charleston white at first 😂😂😂😂
Hell naww He wrote stop that train that beat was smashing 👍🏾💯
Vanilla ice need to come on and do a interview
Right let's just clear the air NOW!
Why? He changed his stories constantly on it. 🙄
People believe vanilla ice Because he is nice white boy and they don't want to believe suge because he is big black guy with big @$$ cigar, even on Instagram people always support hot white boys more than anybody on social media hahahahaha
With a polygraph machine attached to him yeah.
Vanilla Ice is from where I'm from Dallas, he invested his money, his parents the Van winkles are filthy Rich, he doesn't need the money
Heavy.
Ps Much Gratitude for sharing.
First David Mack now Ron Brown? Two World Class track athletes with association to Death Row.
Damn, folks stay on Mobb James head lol!
I was somewhat believing him until now..James has no reason to lie for 1. And the balcony thing was denied by everybody involved including James. The timing is weird..I'm glad to know more about Mario but I think he's playing the game of today
James is a proven snitch dumb ass
James is a 🐀 they lie reason or not
He could be trying to get back at him because it seems like he’s in his feelings about James saying he never did a record after ice ice baby, and you are right there’s no reason for James to lie about that, James has been asked about a lot of interesting incidents at Death Row and if he wasn’t there he’d straight up say he wasn’t there, I feel like if he would lie about this incident he would lie about other incidents also
This man is telling the truth YALL don’t understand the record business Vanilla Ice is a Liar and so is Mob James it’s called Royalties and Points if you knew the real business you would understand why Vanilla Ice didn’t want to play the court game he would’ve lost way more in that situation Vanilla I’ve owns the publishing to his first album II the Extreme the brother who writhe 9 out of 12 songs would win in court the bulk of the albums publishing in hindsight he actually took a loss a big loss.
James a 🐀
Dj earthquake tells a whole different story. Says suge grabbed one of vanilla ices dudes by the neck and lifted up his shirt showing a 38 and that vanilla ice kept hollering and suge told him to shut up before he throw him off the balcony lol so many different stories
He look like Charleston white in the thumbnail😂
Mob James stay lying
Him and Keefe D
To everyone except the Feds LOL!
Vanilla Ice - after all the cap - in fact CLEARED UP THE URBAN LEGEND by saying it never happened…I watched that interview…So yes Vanilla Ice did cap initially, even saying “Just think of it as me being an early investor in Death Row Records”…BUT THEN he cleared it up.
vanilla ice is trying to take credit. harry o invested everything
Dam so much good details in here.
You could tel mob James was lying when he told the story because he didn’t no what suge did or anything .. he was very vague about what happened because he didn’t no
MJ stated he did not go into the hotel room AND he wasn't there for that, see VLAD interview at 0:56.
@@higher_pwr8178 he still lied he wasn’t there at all
@@higher_pwr8178 he said that because he knew he didn’t no what happened
He didn't "KNOW"
@@jamessmith7205 don’t nobody care bout al that 😂😂😂…he ain’t no cuz he wasn’t there period
So this guy is the link between Vanilla Ice and Suge. I always wondered how Suge just randomly decided to press Vanilla Ice for publishing out of nowhere, it didn't make sense but now it does.
James Mcdonald from Kitchen Crip snitching on paper and lying on camera?? *Pretends to be shocked*
Good to finally here it from the source and not the lair's everybody brings on these platforms for views & clout 👍
Said it before, Di needs all guests in and we'll have it out.
Chocolate feat b.o.x and cpo-five to ten still one of my fav jams
So why u just saying this now after all these years?🤔💭
Right lol
Because everybody else is just now saying it have anyone ever asked him until now 🤷🏾♂️ 💯
“Mob bob” 😂
I cant lie I jammed Vanilla Ice!!!!! Chocolate wrote it that album and it was dope too me... Chocolate is 🔥🔥🔥💯💯💯.... #IceIceBaby 💲💲💲💲 for chocolate... Ice is a humble guy now.... 💯💯👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻 great interview
Maybe I don’t like the ‘Ice Ice Baby’ record cause Vanilla Ice recorded it. It might’ve sounded a lot better if Choc got to record his own lyrics. I never knew he did multiple songs for him as well. Dope interview brotha.
He lying bro he probably had input but didn’t wrote the whole song think about it
@@cesarperez4736 Daz confirmed this dudes story 😂 UA-cam Daz Dillinger interview, Daz: Vanilla ice funded deathrow records at the 29:00 mark
@@cesarperez4736 yeah vanilla has flow already.. he was runnin around the chitlin circuit in Dallas and houston battling Romeo poet willie d Ricky royal rp cola big mello oak cliff asssassin n others
@Vadge Maguire because he would’ve had another hit plus I’m pretty sure he would’ve had his paperwork right he don’t seem dumb at sll
There’s a song called Droppen Bombs - Penthouse Players Clique featuring DJ Quik. Not a lot of people know that record, it’s on UA-cam. It came out in 1990 before they both dropped their debut albums. It’s a dope high energy track 🔥
Mario actually reveals himself to be a liar here.
What songs does he say that he wrote?
Ice is Working It, Stop That Train and It's a Party.
It's A Party was one of the first songs Ice ever wrote. Back in 85-86.
Chocolate says in the earlier interview that when he met Ice, he was already established in the underground rap scene.
He was already performing on stage and rapping.
They met somewhere in 87-88.
So what songs was he performing when Chocolate met him? "It's a Party" was 100% one of them.
So no, Chocolate did not write "It's a Party".
Then he says he wrote "Ice is Working It" and "Stop That Train".
Chocolate fell out with Ice around 1989 after Hooked was released.
In 1990, To The Extreme was released and he had three new songs on that album.
Including "Ice is Working It" and "Stop That Train".
So during the time when Ice and Chocolate weren't on speaking terms and Chocolate was trying to get into contact with him over royalties - that's when he also wrote two new songs for him?
He also claims that he sued Ice and got credit for these songs. He has never been credited as the co-writer or writer for any of these songs.
The only song he has been credited for is "Ice Ice Baby".
And what is funny is that in the previous interview, he even admits to not writing anything himself. The notes Chocolate gave to Vanilla Ice were actually written by The D.O.C.
What's even funny that is before Suge Knight and Chocolate sued Ice to get Chocolate credited, there already was somebody credited as the co-writer of Ice Ice Baby. It was MC Smooth.
So it's really weird that they claim Ice was stealing songs or removing credits... he was totally fine with crediting other co-writers. Like Khayree got writing credit for "Hooked".
Damn, that was one of those days in Ice's life that things just went from bad to worse.
Dude still living good tho.
@@leonleon2276 Yup....and the sad thing is, Ice really Loves hip hop culture....he's just a terrible liar....
😂😂🤣🤣💯 💯💯
@Vadge Maguire Yea it is sad, Because Ice genuinely love the culture, he just needs to tell the truth....he's a nerd from the suburbs who loves hip hop music.....
@@Incredible_Geez personally I don’t like the dude. Don’t like his music. I only ever heard ice ice baby. Everyone has heard that so no point lying. When I saw him years ago I just thought he was a bum caucasian jumping on black culture. Couldn’t stand him. Same with mnm at first but clearly m is on different levels. And I still don’t listen to every m track to be honest. Yeh it could be I’m racist , who cares. But they eating good. No doubts.
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A few things. Everyone is telling a different story. According to Vanilla Ice, Suge had shown up other places he was at--I gather that Mobb James might have been around for these other meetings. I've also heard that Suge is sly, so the story about him using the Australian girls as a way to get to Ice makes complete sense. Now, here's where I think Mario "Choc" is lying. I definitely think that Suge made some threats. Not for a second do I believe it was a cordial meeting. It's a known fact that Suge was an enforcer and intimidated many executives, artists, et al, into paying his clients.
I don't think Choc is lying. You gotta remember that Suge had met with Vanilla Ice before. He was already intimidated. Suge did not need to do much to get him to sign those papers
Guess we need that mob Bob interview now
This will be a good interview
That Virgil Roberts interview that he’s talking about is actually on “welcome to death row” documentary
You just don't know who's lying and telling the truth anymore but I will say one thing...
We all know Keefe D is 🤥🤡 lyin 😆😂 " DAYUM!!" 😂
😂😂😂 that’s his favorite word
Lol dayum 😂😂😂
What’s my favorite word? 🗣 DAYUM!!!
Why they gotta say it like Keef! 🗣DAYUM!!
Dayum 😂😂😂😂😂💯
@@angelicjames right be having me Rollin lol him sayin it with a staright face and that one 🦷 tooth 😂😆
Wow James wasnt there lol 😆
MOB said he wasn't there for that.
I always told people Ice I’ve Baby is a Gangsta Rap song just listen to the lyrics . I been saying this for 20 years
I really like that watch the brown leather band makes it pop
Mob James was referring to being at Jerry Heller office, NOT Vanilla Ice situation
I heard ice ice baby still goes platinum to this day.
Idk...I saw one interview where Vanilla said he needed to where a diaper the day of the balcony incident.
Mobb james never said suge hung him over a balcony he said he ain’t know nothing bout that part I just watched it
Old Chocolate. Remember the House in Conoga Park With the studio? Lol Atleast you didn't hate on the homie. Mzzz I was there too.
Moral of the story:
Mob James is a liar
When did he say he was there. Play the footage
I knew it was a lie from the jump when he did that interview on Vlad.
This IS THE TRUE STORY of what happened.
Shout out to my P Town homie!!!
This man called a balcony a banister
"He's a liar man"🤣
I believe some gangsta shyt happened but we’re never gonna know cause real ‘G’s move In 🤫
Mob James said on Vlad he knows nothing about Vanilla Ice situation ..he however said he was at Jerry's office when they went to get Dre and them papers 🙄🙄
On the Death Row chronicles he put himself in the room with everybody.
this guy is a serial liar. jerry heller had jdl these lot are mossad agents they don't play
Something happened, I don't believe nothing happened just bcuz this dude come along years later saying it
😂😂😂
@@TheRenegadeCrew 😂😂
This guys full of shit,suge and him just trying to get paid for nothing,so threatened vanilla ice,no idiot would sign over the rights for no reason lol,who’s he trying to kid !!!,
Watching the video in question, Mob James didn't necessarily say that he was at the same incident that Chocolate was at. What he said was that he witnessed Vanilla Ice getting punked. It's likely that it wasn't a one-time occurrence lol
Gotta bring him back especially after vlad new vanilla ice interview
I swear Mario looks like Charleston White
Stop lying mob bobby!
We all whant ICE AND CHOCOLATE face to face to debate that old storie.
Man I thought that was Charleston white at first lol
Why do people keep saying that vanilla ice said he was hungover the balcony?
😂🤣😂🤣😂 I remember vanilla ice on the Arsenio hall show when he flavor Flav and flavor Flav had to leave the set and flavor flav look in the camera and said something 😂😂😂🤣😂🤣😂 I know he was salty that he had to Leave the set
Yeah what was up with that
And for the record my man flavor Flav is the classiest dude
And hip Hop
Randy Moss word up 👍🏾💯
@@randymoss7858 How's retirement treating you?
@@biggalaxy9102 well since I have retired from being a bag boy at the Piggly wiggly
I'm seriously considering becoming a greeter at Walmart
I missed the game
See man all these stories get so damn twisted from day to day depending on the person, that who knows who, & what to believe anymore, startin to think all this shit was fake lol!
Yo vlad just reuploaded mob james vanilla ice interview as a flashback. He clearly watches art of dialogue.
I thought that was Charleston white
ice said knight had him look over the balcony he did not ever say he was held over a balcony.
ppl be 'misremembering' shit
James never said he was there
Vanilla ice just dropped an interview saying it never happened
That's all them Westcoast dudes do is lie ... Reggie, Wack & Mob
Damn mario lol 😂
89' was like 100 years ago. 🤣🤣🤣
33 years actually lol
Someone needs to start exposing Kefee D and Wack. Lol!
people been exposin em keffe d ain't no killa just a hustla his brotha was the hitta cash jones bka wack a whole agent
D.o.c funky enough records could have the next big thing
Earthquake Earthquake?
Ice truthfully is a decent rapper but he was dealt a raw deal he was pressure to lie about being born in the hood and by him being white that's only way he would sell records once found out he wasn't born in the hood career went down faking like he was from the hood destroy his career the first and second album did very good and the man can really can dance he was hot for awhile never forget him and hammer in concert together one of the best performances I ever seen Chris don't have nother on ice and hammer when it come to dancing
Vanilla ice being white and rapping helped him sell records it had nothing to do with him not being from the hood
@@maltmel Vanilla ice messed his own image up , claiming he was from the hood, saying he can dance better than mc hammer
I REALLY THOUGHT THAT HAPPEN TO VANILLA Ice...WOW....OK....
MOB ain’t got no reason to lie
He got plenty of reasons to lie
That white boy admitted the balcony incident and Suge 😂😂😂😂
He already admitted this didnt happen he said this for attention lol
It's hard for me to believe he wrote ice ice baby, after listening to his music.
Mob James lied about Eazy E getting Robbed also
penthouse play clique was getting promoted by eazy e
Art why don't you get all those men together and do a interview I don't know who 2 believe
He wasn’t there, but he knows exactly what happened? 🤷🏻♂️
Mob Bob lmao