Him threatening Karl with lawsuits is really funny when you know that Karl has been brawling with Billy Mitchell for God knows how many years now lmao.
this. why the hell would you challenge the ONE GUY known to deal and actively document MULTIPLE frivolous lawsuits(Todd Rogers, Billy Mitchell) to a frivolous lawsuit? jirard is either crazy insecure or just stupid
Also, Billy's lawsuit of defamation is not about charity fraud. Billy may narcist liar, but even he won't use his deceased family member to gain sympathy
In the good timeline, jirard would’ve taken accountability and not try to deflect and threaten via a half-assed script by his lawyers, but sadly we aren’t in that one.
I'm not happy either jirards actions... but come on now, he clearly sounds like he's concerned this, along with the legit coincidence of being a friend of 2 bad people who turned out to be 1 bad person but public opinion sadly still hates the ither, would ruin him. Is it because he was manipulating or because he knew how bad a situation looks even if there was a legit good reason to have lied? I don't really know. I'd prefer to see all the info first ig. I think if I was caught in fucking up this badly (eg. I have severe adhd and very much could have fucked up this badly memory-wise lol), I'd probably sue people who just DO have a bad track record of being also bad people who like to be vindictive even if they are dead wrong... I just don't like any of this :/ All sides look really gross rn.
Its affiliation with the cesspit formerly known as G4 told me everything I needed to know about it. Beyond irredeemable. This merely confirms that fact.
You gotta love how ProJared tweeted a passionate defense of Jirard without even watching Karl or Mutahar. Wonder how he felt when that full Discord call came out and Jirard threw him under the bus.
@@puzzledotgamer5461 Jirard most likely yes and not sure about Jared. But as far as I know Jontron is actually still friends with the other Normal Boots guys even after leaving them
@@robinfire0772he was he was doing some small skits on UA-cam with his friends the comments got inundated with hate comments from or constant questions about leaving the completionist
Gotta love how Bonsai Pop also uses the same language Jirard uses like saying "People who *may* feel they were wronged" Like, people *WERE* wronged, not maybe
I think I’ve commented this before, but I really appreciate this show sometimes because I am too exhausted with Twitter to just find this stuff myself. I’ve just deleted my account once again, but seeing who responded to this is fairly important to me anyway.
you feel better without all that garbage, I loaded it up recently only to watch alex jones return other wise haven't used it in years,. I watch bowblax.
Yeah, I never really could get into it myself lol. Helps to seeninfo i couldn't otherwise find without input fron the person putting it together to spin it one way or another.
Yeah exactly. This channel is exactly like those Reddit channels where I'm way too lazy to find the good content myself, and someone offers to not only find it but narrate it for me
Calling Karl scummy for having an ad is some serious smooth brain shit. It’s also pretty sad the guy was trying to cope saying Karl shouldn’t bother responding to him, despite making a ludicrous claim that Karl is trying to squeeze money from this situation and saying Karls following is bigger than his so why bother responding to him in the first place. You can’t cry when the person you’re calling out actually comes and argues back, that’s not how the internet works.
Yeah him and like a billion other UA-camrs. What a dumbsht take, indeed. A youtuber making a living off of UA-cam, how scandalous. Also let's just ignore embezzling charity funds for 9 years, this guy Karl's the real criminal coz he got a sponsor 🙃🤡
I loved when Jirard was like "I'm against the racists! I'm one of the good people! I believe all The Correct Things! This isn't supposed to happen to the good people!"
Like why did Johntron get sucked into this? Wtf did he do other than express his opinions? That crowd absolutely believes that their beliefs dictate how good of a person you are.
@@swishfish8858 Idk about hating him for trying to stand by a POS he calls a friend but he was one of those guys who prefers the Court to tell us he's guilty as opposed to the Internet and two investigative dudes. IMO he should've just stayed out of this and prayed for his friend to be innocent than try to remind us not to jump to conclusions or show any kind of support for Jirard.
*_"Villains who twirl their mustaches are easy to spot. Those who cloak themselves in good deeds are well camouflaged, waiting for the right climate in which to flourish, spreading fear in the name of righteousness."_* - Jean-Luc Picard
@@ultimate9056 Yes it is taken from the very end of Season 4, Episode 21 called "The Drumhead." It is a very pertinent quote, not just for Jirad but for the whole western world as a whole. I'm sure there will be a clip of this scene out there, somewhere, if you are looking for it. Look for "End scene of The Drumhead S04, E21."
Never forget the end of that speech, it's my favorite bit and the most relevant to any discourse of this nature: _"Vigilance, Mr. Worf. That is the price we must continually pay."_
“This will likely not change until this situation is settled in court. Until then, we know nothing for certain” -Bonsai Pop Dude you don’t need a court to tell you that Jirard lied about the donations.
And it's not like court suddenly gives the rubber stamp of truthness to whether or not something happened just because it's taken "to court". PERSON 1: "He totally SA'd my little sister, I have the pictures!" PERSON 2: "Yeah but that could be a picture of anyone; I guess we won't know for sure until it goes to court!"
Especially when there could be some legal loopholes he can get through, the fact is he lied and committed charity fraud, whether the "court" finds it so or not is completely different, being legal doesn't mean being ethical or morally right
I can't believe this is a grown adult saying this as if he can't use his own critical thinking skills to be able to conclude with the available evidence that even if Jirard is legally off the hook and had no evil intentions, at the very minimum he still made a major fuck up that has actual damages done. I refuse to believe an adult can be so stupid and blind to what is happening
i love that one guy completely fucking ignoring the heaps of evidence that jirard committed charity fraud because "jirard is so nice to me though" somehow goes on for a massive fucking twitlonger about it
Can’t stop laughing at the “But Karl took a sponsor!” People. He apologized for doing it and all of us who understand that things cost money went “it’s cool bro, keep up the good work and get that bread. You deserve it.”
He didn't apologize. He said, this is my job. It's how I support my wife and kid. They are more important to me than your feelings about UA-camrs. I only wish he had taken a sponsor on all his videos, at times he doesnt because he doesn't want to offend people, but what he found is, they get offended anyway, so fuck em. Get paid for your work, Karl.
Antdude made a statement that basically amounts to "I did not watch anyone's video and I defended my friend so back the fuck up" because that's really what his statement is because saying he didn't know means he didn't watch either one of the videos that were released when it first happened.
@@speinz9430 Yep, the statement where he shifts blame, does not actually apologize for insulting Karl and Muta, and says when he tweeted that the claims were false he actually meant some racist tweets he saw(if this was true he would have clarified this in the original tweet.). All of this instead of just apologizing for tweeting without watching the videos. If you think he actually cares he defended a con artist I have a bridge to sell you. He's a grifter with a fake smile, same as his friend the Completionist.
@@lightingmcqueen522 not the point. Point is they were mistaken and now look even dumber for blindly defending a scumbag. Stop trying to fight it with "wouldn't you do that for a friend?" Of course the answer is "yeah". Is that supposed to be some kind of own? Just take the L's.
@lightingmcqueen522 well most people would wait and see not fight battles on twitter like why did these fuckers even comment on the situation kinda nothing to do with them.
@@lightingmcqueen522no ofcourse not, being actually just is important listening to both sides and then deciding, telling your friend that he made a mistake and should apologize is being a good friend, defending him blindly is being a bad friend.
Which is funny because Muta has a job outside of UA-cam and both him and Karl are married. Quite literally the opposite of being terminally online. Unlike Cow boy over there who's whole behavior during all that sh*t is the exact same behavior of someone who's terminally online.
Here's a short story: a roommate I lived with, someone I considered a friend, one day accused me of wronging him with no proof. And when I say "accused" I mean he talked to the landlord behind my back and got me kicked out. My best friend, who was best friends with him, didn't immediately come to my defense but he didn't take his the roommate's side either. Instead, he waited and heard me out just like he heard him out to get both sides of the story rather than adamantly defending either of us because he knew it was too serious yet vague of a situation to make a judgement call. I bring this up because this is an *actual* reasonable response to such events that can tear apart relationships in the blink of an eye. Normal people don't just throw their friends under the bus but normal people also don't just outright believe everything their friend says just because they said so. Its called common sense and when you no longer have the capacity for it, you should admit to your behavior and mistakes you make when you lose it. That's what is normal. All of these people are upset and embarrassed that they were made fools of for blindly believing Jirad. The funny thing is, all these hyper long responses and short worded deflections are proof on their own that despite all the time they were given to watch and review evidence against their friend, they still chose to blindly support him under the guise of "wait and see". Had the initial findings been super vague and unclear from the get go then I would understand the defense people mounted for Jirard but both Muta and Karl were very thorough right out the gate with receipts and details that left very little room for doubt. These people here may want to act like their actions were justified and reasonable but the truth is that they weren't. They actively ignored proof to protect their friend which NEVER ends up well in these controversies. I have no sympathy and no pity for any of them. They got played and instead of owning up to it, they try to desperately absolve themselves of their actions in a vain attempt to save face. Hmmmmm.... almost like someone else we all know
To be fair, it isn't impossible to fake receipts and details. Editing web pages and false web pages exist all the time while it taking 10 years for people to realize is suspicious. You can, through the inspect function, edit stuff like the text you wrote and take a screen shot. Scam sites have existed near identical to real sites. In the end Jirard is guilty, but people can and will go a long way to lie.
That's the whole thing though, waiting until you get evidence to make a statement, that's like literally what even Muta and Karl were doing, their first video was basically "hey this looks shady, but Jirard has a right to respond." If people who you don't agree with can have the respect to wait for evidence to come out before making accusations, then the least the defenders can do is backtrack when the evidence comes out.
Notice how in all the clips Jirard is more concerned about his image and career than he is about doing the right thing and donating the money. He's absolutely cooked and it will take a miracle to bring him back
yep it’s gonna take quite a miracle to comeback, especially with how bad his apology video is. He did the bare minimum, donating the money, but adding emotional manipulation is just terrible and disingenuous. He needs to hold himself MORE accountable. Waiting for the court case to address all these other complex elements and the unaccounted golf money. It’s pretty bad but Colleen Ballinger’s apology is absolutely the worst one of 2023
TheFamilyBovine is the type of the guy who leaves an empty box of Twinkies in the pantry and gets upset at someone else for that empty box being there. To quote Karl Jobst, "what an absolute buffoon."
He came to the circus and outclowned the clown car and mental gymnastics his way to the Ringleader. Ironic for a lolcow to name himself the family's cow.
Quite literally the perfect example of a guy making an idiotic statement and when he gets mocked for being a dumbass they pull the "Wow, so many triggered people. I'm taking a break." This is something you expect out of a comedy video.
jirard: if they're gonna expose me, i will threaten them with possible lawsuits muta and karl: guess it's time to release the full call if he wants to play
And yet... even with such an unfavourable ratio... that volume of remaining defenders is still egregious! I like to think a lot of those "likes" were spontaneous copes and have been ultimately swayed since then.
Remember: Dislikes are only displayed by a browser extension that collects its OWN dislikes. We have zero way of knowing the actual dislike numbers, only the numbers from the kinds of people that need to see dislikes of any kind (and who typically frequently use the dislike button themselves). The value is skewed. (that said it's not hard to imagine that the real value is any better for Jirard lmao)
Some of the people who initially responded with their takes on Jirard and apologized for making rash judgments later are even. Except Bonsai Pop. He seemed to dig into his position when the mountain of evidence is presented to prove that he isn't a "kind" or "honest" person. He seems pretty content with Jirard and his actions.
Yeah that's parasocial dependency, Jirard said nice things to him and he met him once at a conference, and apparently he fell in love and got attached from that moment on. While Jirard doesn't even know he exists, It's just sad.
I am not as fond of Sims either, never got the hype behind it, but I don't exactly hate it neither... Even then, guess I too am a high ranking Uncle Ruckus, Cheaty the Cheat Skate, and The Fraudulentionst XD.
When it's your friend, you want to defend them, especially when you been with them for years and the things being said against them is out of their character.
@@SuperSpeed21yeah. But there is difference between believing in your friend vs ignoring anything opposing your friend. It was a fact from day one that 600k+ was not get donated. In my opinion, A good friend and good person seek answers about that. I think many his friends and fans just wanted to put dirt on it and move on.
You just tweet "my bad, i'm sorry". But they have to keep their moral high ground and prevent their ego from taking a hit so we ended up with this long convoluted tweets.
saddest part is he could have came back from this is he just apologized ernestly. he had the rare boon of the public being on his side at first he could have just took the L donated the money did another charity stream properly showed the reciepts and been back in good graces. but he just kept digging and digging him self into a hole
That's the crazy part to me. Bro won. He literally tricked all of these people so hard that they were willing to defend him for lying to donations for 10 YEARS. All he had to do was not fuck it up and play nice in front of muta and Karl and dude was home free. But somehow, someway, bro managed to threaten to sue two of, like maybe 10 or so, content creators threatening to sue wouldn't work on. This is the internet equivalent of talking yourself into a ticket when the police officer pulled you over just for a warning.
My guess that he couldn't at that point. Probably has much more that we don't know, we still don't know anything from the Golf. Best he could've delayed it. I want to believe that a true apology could have reduced the damage, but I have the feeling we only saw the peak of the iceberg, and the rest will be revealed in court. Sad.
@@magicalcapi9148 He could've passed the buck, having someone else take the fall because he trusted them blindly. That would've been a great way to turn things around if that individual even admitted to being at fault. Then he swears to do better and be 100% transparent.
@@Dragoonsoul7878He kind did that, no? He stepped down from the foundation. But I imagine he can't (he can~, but...) put the blame on someone else, because, you know, all the people in the foundation are his family. Yeah...
I remember seeing Jirard's eShop video in my feed awhile ago and I sat there completely dumbfounded as to why anyone would make a video about buying them all for the sake of "preservation." For those not in the know, Nintendo's eShop security was pretty godawful up until the Switch (and it probably still is), and there were programs that let you rip just about any game from their servers provided you had the proper license, of which several people had already dumped the vast majority of, if not the entire catalog of both the Wii U and 3DS before the eShop's shuttering. The community had been on top of it since probably the Wii (the WiiWare archive is like 97% complete iirc). It shocked me how many rubes bought into his supposed act of charity when that money would have gone to much greater use archiving the PS3 and Vita's online libraries, of which only around 70% of what we know of is backed up, and the axe constantly looms over those platforms' heads.
I can actually comment here on this: There's a vast difference between the legal act of purchase and donating to an archival preservation society, versus skimming from the illegal rom sharing community. I do agree that those libraries would have been more useful, but the eShop was in the process of being axed, not just had the threat of the axe looming, so it also made for an excellent PR stunt on top of the legalistic differences.
I will never understand the blind defense people can have for youtubers they will never breathe next to in real life just because they said some nice things about them online in the past. You do not know these people. You don't know what they're capable of. People regurgitating that Jirard is a nice guy is because they can't fathom the thought that they made a poor choice in friends. It's all about THEIR ego and refusal to admit that they don't know everything and aren't as virtuous as they think they are.
I can't see a single shred of guilt coming from Jirard's friends, none of them feel sorry for downplaying the situation and attacking the victims who donated to charity. All I see are long-winded texts of self-pity just to save their careers.
Can't blame 'em. Being connected to such a trashfire will destroy their careers, whether they did anything or not. That's how the Internet works, "everyone that isn't against the bad person is just as bad if not worse". And when your career depends entirely on lots of people liking you, getting turned against so dramatically is death.
It was pretty funny when someone tried to pull the whole parasocial relationship argument on Antdude and he was just like "Uh... I know Jirard in real life, bro."
It's easier to fool someone than it is to convince someone they've been fooled. No one wants to acknowledge, especially publicly, that they were fooled.
Honestly WillyMacShow makes a valid point, people need money in order to survive in this world and if they don't get it they have to move on and drop whatever they were doing So Karl putting sponsorships in his videos never bothered me especially since you can just skip ahead into the video to avoid it But lets be real if Karl putting a tiny sponsorship in his video is considered "Scummy as fuck" then what does that say about Jirard and what he's done
Bro, why even throw ProJared and JonTron under the bus? I used to look up Beardman but now… now my heart just hurts. Yet another pillar of my teenage years has crumbled.
That one felt extra bad cuz Jared went 100% in with no hesitation to defend Jirard. Yeah his statements were dumb, but at least he stuck by his friend whereas Jirard knifed him for no reason.
@@merphul I’d feel bad for Jared as well had he not been all “cancel culture bad” during and after his big controversy, only to turn around and jump on the first cancel bandwagon that reached his eyes as soon as everyone moved on from his thing. He lowkey had it coming.
I remember when he distanced himself from jared when Jared had his controversies. Even then, jirard didn't seem like a good friend. He'll throw anyone under the bus if it will protect his image
Antdude is more concerned with random on Twitter than any of people involved. Defending Jirard because a dude no one knows said something racist? Who cares man. Don't shine light on it, you're just muddling the water.
Thing is, responding to a close friend being accused of crime would naturally be to get on their side. However, the embarrassing part is to state your support loudly, and denouncing the accuser. I won't pretend like I remember every piece of the accusation from Mutahar or Karl, but I'm sure I've watched more than ProJared did when he told them to "talk to Jirard".
When Jirard said he had "20 mouths to feed" makes me wonder if his family even works or were they all just wanting to syphon off the charity scheme forever. 19:06 how tf can a single streamer take care of 20 people to the point they can't take care of themselves.
he probably spiced the number up. anyway, jirards family has money. what jirad fees is his yes men posse to some degree, the people who write the scripts etc.
I recall Jirard saying in multiple videos that when he does eventually decide to stop making episodes of Completionist, his final episode would be about Donkey Kong Country (it was either 2 or 3, I forgot which one) At this rate, we might be getting that final episode sooner than we expected lol
It was 2. He considered that game the one to complete last cuz of some symbolic crap or w.e. like Diddy going from sidekick to hero to one of the GOATS of gaming according to Cranky.
The whole thing about Jirard being praised for "Preserving" the entire Wii U and 3DS library is hilarious when you know that not only do people already preserve that stuff years ago and didn't brag about it in social media, but of course Nintendo also preserved all the sh*t that mattered in those consoles as well. Literally doing it for the clout and nothing more its just hilarious.
This is genuinely why if your going to good things , make sure their for good reasons. The fakeness comes out in the wash one way or another , time is the only thing that changes
@hammondOT to be clear I just saw that he responded and vaguely skimmed it, but turns out his "apology" is littered with phrases like "I'm sure you would like to see me fail" which at this point I can't say such a though would disappoint me.
His friends say he wasnt being evil intentionally is such bs. Im sorry he used his freinds and his DEAD MOM as shields while knowing about it for years and money is just gone. The whole family is likely crooked at this point.
i lost my dad to cancer 20 years ago when i was obviously a bit younger, i have never used that for sympathy, and my dad and i were bffs, the way he constantly uses his mom's death is insulting
Ant dude had a pretty good apology. He admitted he was being biased and he didn’t just go against his friend. Which if he did would’ve made him look like a huge snake but yeah I can understand him. I’ve tried to defend my friends even when they do some really bad shit and I had to realize I was being biased and had to cut them off to grow
AntDude was capping in his apology, though. He's going so far as pretending that when he said "outrageous claims", he wasn't talking about the accusations. Suddenly, it's about "death threats". Threats aren't claims. He should just own being wrong without retconning your own tweets.
PBG is fine. I don’t know anything about Continue? these days, if they still exist. They also had other members added on later (ProJared was one of those), who I think have mostly been uncontroversial… I think.
It's funny how a lot of the ''bigger Jirard defenders'' use the whole friendship excuse and don't want to instantly condemn someone, yet felt it was totally fine to lambast any detractors instantly without taking any of the facts into account. I get you don't want to go against someone you look up to or consider a friend, but there is always the option of not saying anything and just waiting until all the facts come out. But no, as if on impulse you instantly felt the need to respond and make a fool out of yourself. This is what twitter brain rot looks like.
I think people do that sort of stuff in a disingenuous way. In their head they probably thought Jirard was legit and wanted to get in his good graces so in the event he's proven innocent they can all go 'Look Jirard, look. I defended you from the get go Jirard. Let's be friends Jirard', and maybe collab or or be in his inner circle or something in the future.
@@lanceuppercut6168 I had not even considered that angle yet, yeah there might be some who think like that also. Though I do not want give them too much credit because that is too calculative for most of them, most of the responses were done without much thought behind it.
Remember the time MissFushi said "And I will remember you for it."? Pepperidge farms remembers. It's okay to persecute others when think you're in the right, it seems but how quickly she backs out now.
An they just want to dip out willy nilly like they didn't stick their nose into it. No no, shit don't work like that. I hope everyone remember her for it.
@@lanceuppercut6168 For the record it's fine to defend someone. At times that is. Defending with OJ Simpson levels of evidence is another thing. Defending after a nonapology video is another level of silly. At least she backed off but don't take such a strong stance that quickly peeps. You never know someone.
@@Bowblax2 That's okay, I was making stupid takes, like Jirard's got some many skeletons coming out now, he must have Narnia in the back of his closet :P
Why pollute their content pipeline with drama that their majority audience isn't even aware of? The point is to distance themselves from the issue, not actually confront it. :P
The first reply basically got it twitter is a whole different animal and strangely enough you can kinda say stupid or outlandish things without much repercussions elsewhere because most rational people have long given up on twitter and avoid it like the plague in fact I found out about UA-camrs twitter comments thru this video and wouldn’t have known about any of these post if I didn’t watch this which is crazy because some of these people I watch at least once in a while or semi regularly..
AntDude coming out with the “THiS iS thE LasT TImE I’lL ADdrEss THis” and trying to sweep his defensiveness under the rug and pass the buck is scummy AF too.. honestly hope that person sees appropriate consequences regarding people not wanting to work with them in the future.
I mean, this shit is none of his business so it's better to just end the conversation than drag it out until an actual conclusion occurs because we're going nowhere and we're wasting time arguing over some famous people most of us don't know in real life. And unless he had an actual hand in the scandal, dude only deserves the stink of defending POS and nothing more.
Him constantly bringing up his mom doesn't even bother me. What does is him using the word 'legacy'. Like, dude what 'legacy'? Don't you have to actually DO SOMETHING in order to have a legacy?
The craziest thing honestly is that ProJared's big "scandal" was a Crazy ex trying to destroy him. The dude was a horn dog but he actually didnt do anything and proved himself to actually br a good guy. Jon had his bad moments thats for damn sure but he kept things in the down low for the most part and he came back fresh applogized and ready to start completely over while other youtubers like H3H3 tried to rekindle the drama and ended up completely failing and just gardnering support for Jon. Basically two guys who ended up right and better after their "Drama's" So to try and attack them Now after they been forgiven and gotten followings again is fucken insane. I thought Hilter attacking Russia was the stupidest mistake anyone could of ever made but this is up there Because At least he had his retro buddies on his side. But people seeing him turning on Jared and Jon like that Really pushed him out of friendly territory and a war on two fronts
@@NemesisOgreKingand I don’t know why. Didn’t Jirard throw him under the bus when he was going through his own controversy years ago? why would you defend someone who already proved they are willing to stab you in the back?
Ah, Godwin's Law works every time. Hitler just randomly mentioned in a post discussing youtube drama, lol. (I understand what you've meant, btw, just find it funny when people do it)
I hope Greg Wilmot is sitting somewhere with a mug of cocoa and good company, quietly enjoying a healthy bit of Christmas schadenfreude. In hindsight, you gotta wonder, if he knew something and demanded to be removed from Jirard's brand so completely for a reason.
If I recall wasn't it rumored to be based on money related things? That and the suspicious clear times Jirard sometimes had, it almost feels like this should've been more obvious something was up and that things were not honest.
greg made a reddit post in completionis2 sub basically saying fuck jirard, he didn't know they were charity fruads but apparently the entire family were grade A scumfucks and something like this is only not surprising but somewhat expected. that being one of the reasons he had the videos taken down. didnt want his face associated with anything that family was doing. he also said hes happily married with two kids playing the banjo and enjoying life
@23:32 I just have to mention that I feel that the sponsor in Karl's most recent video was to deliberately make the people who complained about it in his second video even more angry, and while I have no skin in him having sponsors, I find that hilarious.
Jirard should have taken the L, donated the money apologized and kept his mouth shut. But he went on video to threaten lawsuits . Karl and Muta said ok if that’s how we’re gonna play. They gave him ample opportunity to do the right thing but he doubled down and lied on video in his ‘apology’
12:00 Kinda ironic hearing this because The Completionist took down the videos that ProJared was featured when allegations went up and he wasn't fully proven guilty yet. He then backpedaled after ProJared made his defense video. And now after ProJared blindly defended Jirard, Jirard threw him under the bus by using his drama as a shield. Wow.
Jontron has had some very bad moments in his life, and i think at this point he doesn't have many of his old connections left (at least publicly). But to see Jirad throw him under the bus in his own desperate hour is so sad to see
Jared was playing stupid games and got his stupid prizes. Simping and trying to have fun with some people... but he never did anything wromg to anything other than HIMSELF. Jon was just a victim of political action. He did absolutely nothing wrong, quite the opposite. Nowadays you get cancelled for stating a fact. Fuck Jerard.
One of the best lessons we can all learn from this is never jump the gun. When stuff gets bad, instead of leaping to social media to yell at people who don’t agree with you, just turn it off, take a walk, and go from there. Arguing on social media does nothing and only makes YOU look bad.
Yep. Whether it be defense or hate, you should always check out both sides while trying to absorb that bit of news. I kinda did that with Karl's first Jirard video even though he was going easy at the time.
Look this has gone on for far enough now is the time for the Lawyers and the IRS to do their own investigation into this and to see what the courts will say.
They aren’t bad for defending them but they still should face the bed they made, they should’ve taken a different stance like I don’t know what the full situation is and ill wait for everything to be understood and resolved and make my full opinion, I will be behind him for being his friend but I won’t say anything else until everything is resolved,
I agree. I get standing by people you knew and cared for and I know the Internet tends eat this news up like candy and will immediately side against Jirard or alike but yeah, after my personal experiences with blindingly siding with people, I tend to stay on the fence until more info is brought up or just keep my thoughts to myself until it's all over like you said.
AntDude's statement was actually pretty alright, all things considered. I've seen folks claim that he's "backpedaling" and "shifting blame," but I dont see it at all. And I've read it multiple times.
Wow, that leaked Discord call. Excuses, guilt-tripping, gaslighting, bribery, deflections and throwing unrelated people under the bus, Jirard is getting more and more pathetic every time he opens his mouth.
I hate the fact that a lot of Jirard's defenders when backpedaling are using the excuses of hate comments and mental health to justify their actions, like dude everyone can find a bad comment or two in their thread and posting the screenshots of them doesn't mean shit. You just defended a dude that committed charity fraud, and scrolling down the replies on your tweet and finding hate comments and telling the people talking shit to you that they are bad because of hate comments and then using the mental health exuse is just pathetic
The scumbag came back to grab more money on twitch. I would love to see a follow up so maybe we can know if he had other things planned with the money purely by public backslash. I love your videos man, hope you keep the format and quality.
They all should've kept all their mouths shut honestly, they instantly sided with a guy whilst painting the other side as drama grifters. Now that the tables have turned they just make shallow ass apologies and excuses, like plz nobody cares. Go back to gaming/game reviews because this stuff is way to complicated for dumbasses with rose tinted glasses for a guy that merely treated them nice in person. I may be harsh saying all this but it's so annoying how all these people just drag an apology on by making the most obvious excuses that anyone could see from the very beginning. Every sane person knew these fools were acting on emotions and not thinking as they proceeded to yap yap yap. People told them it was stupid.
Ya know ima be honest, im trying my hardest to look at this situation without bias. Its a big reason im just watching this go down without giving a dog shit take. All i can say is i feel hurt since the completionist is one of my favorite content creators. I just hope people will be civil about this.
what if the "the Completionist" forgot about the money thus proving he had no ill intentions? if "The Completiontist" spent the money then he is S.O.L. There is capital fraud then there is unintentional fraud just look at the "Black Lives Matter Movement" where its Female Black Leader used all its freaking donated money to treat her self ,but never use it to fix actual Black Lives. me being a black person that was more disgusting than what the Completionist is doing right now.
Him threatening Karl with lawsuits is really funny when you know that Karl has been brawling with Billy Mitchell for God knows how many years now lmao.
but he never said he hid from the irs and has missing golf money lol
this. why the hell would you challenge the ONE GUY known to deal and actively document MULTIPLE frivolous lawsuits(Todd Rogers, Billy Mitchell) to a frivolous lawsuit? jirard is either crazy insecure or just stupid
Also, Billy's lawsuit of defamation is not about charity fraud. Billy may narcist liar, but even he won't use his deceased family member to gain sympathy
@@r3dr4te963Idk man, I bet you Billy would in Jirard's position.
@@r3dr4te963to be fair billy would do anything for that donkey kong world record
Using ProJared and Jontron long after their "drama" as a shield to deflect what Completionist has done is the lowest of the lows.
I still fuck with jon, and Arin still doesn’t make content (I stopped watching game grumps 10 years ago)
@@TheR999Arin is another piece of S who threw Jon under the bus, F him as well.
@@TheR999I still fuck with Jon too. He's one of the best youtubers I've watched
@@Mr.Baldimore Crazy how you can fuck with a proud racist. Tragic
@@rikimaru700”Racist”
And you’re an idiot.
If only jirard didn’t threaten a lawsuit then Muta and Karl wouldn’t have dropped that extremely incriminating call in its entirety.
In the good timeline, jirard would’ve taken accountability and not try to deflect and threaten via a half-assed script by his lawyers, but sadly we aren’t in that one.
In the good timeline he'd have been donating the money all along.
Jirard wants to see the bad ending first
@@Micchi- he wants to unlock all endings
I'm not happy either jirards actions... but come on now, he clearly sounds like he's concerned this, along with the legit coincidence of being a friend of 2 bad people who turned out to be 1 bad person but public opinion sadly still hates the ither, would ruin him. Is it because he was manipulating or because he knew how bad a situation looks even if there was a legit good reason to have lied? I don't really know. I'd prefer to see all the info first ig. I think if I was caught in fucking up this badly (eg. I have severe adhd and very much could have fucked up this badly memory-wise lol), I'd probably sue people who just DO have a bad track record of being also bad people who like to be vindictive even if they are dead wrong... I just don't like any of this :/ All sides look really gross rn.
"but he's the nicest guy though". There's a major difference between being a "nice guy" and a good man
I am probably corrupted by the internet that "nice guy" means incel to me now 😂
Arthur morgen taught us that
@@arrfffff7455 You said it, partner.
Its affiliation with the cesspit formerly known as G4 told me everything I needed to know about it. Beyond irredeemable. This merely confirms that fact.
I'm a nice guy. Does that mean I can embezzle 600k?
imagine being projared and defending your good friend jirard and he throws you under the bus in a private discord call anyway
Imagine being pro Jared when ur dick pics and sailor moon slut pics leak online
It wasn't even "private" because Jirard was told immediately it was being recorded and he agreed to it
He didn't throw him under the bus. He brought up Jared because it was a previous scandal he was involved with, just like JonTron...
@brn2579 And I'm sure they both appreciated him dragging them to make himself look better.
@@theotherjared9824 Presumably he's dragging them behind the bus he threw them under... What are you even talking about?
You gotta love how ProJared tweeted a passionate defense of Jirard without even watching Karl or Mutahar. Wonder how he felt when that full Discord call came out and Jirard threw him under the bus.
Jared probably was as initially surprised as the rest of us
I'm surprised no one ever mention this, that's really fucked up. I mean it's not just Jared but Jontron too
both of them hate jon tbf@@Nelland
@@puzzledotgamer5461 Jirard most likely yes and not sure about Jared. But as far as I know Jontron is actually still friends with the other Normal Boots guys even after leaving them
@@Nelland well yea PBG is to nice a guy xD
In Greg voice:
“But Beardman! Why were you sitting on charity money for over 10 years!? Bears!”
Hope he's still around lol
greg dodged a bullet
He left around 2015 and it's believed this has been a thing for 10 years. Did he know?
@@robinfire0772he was he was doing some small skits on UA-cam with his friends the comments got inundated with hate comments from or constant questions about leaving the completionist
The BEARS took me back to better days 😂
"If you didn't want a response, you should have written it in a notebook"
11/10
The Conpletionist took 9 years to complete charity donations, that must be 1 hard game
still not 100% lol
@@Elipsyclips he gave it a rating of finish it
@@Elipsyclipsdw hes just going for the cancelation ending, he'll go for 100% next time
It is not really completed. Lots of money are still being unaccounted for and no one knows where it is.
Now I want some Indie game Dev to make a game called "The Donation" that does take 9 years to complete.
I wonder what Jirard is doing right now. Like sitting in a giant room surrounded by useless video games and plastic toys.
He is completing all the games he can before he goes to jail
Kinda reminds me of an AVGN episode, only its not as comedic of a moment xD.
He's working through that Nintendo shop backlog.
Uff
@@omensoffate LMFAO
Gotta love how Bonsai Pop also uses the same language Jirard uses like saying
"People who *may* feel they were wronged"
Like, people *WERE* wronged, not maybe
Yeah that guy is a scumbag. He deserves to get shit on.
I think I’ve commented this before, but I really appreciate this show sometimes because I am too exhausted with Twitter to just find this stuff myself. I’ve just deleted my account once again, but seeing who responded to this is fairly important to me anyway.
you feel better without all that garbage, I loaded it up recently only to watch alex jones return other wise haven't used it in years,. I watch bowblax.
Yeah, I never really could get into it myself lol. Helps to seeninfo i couldn't otherwise find without input fron the person putting it together to spin it one way or another.
Yeah exactly. This channel is exactly like those Reddit channels where I'm way too lazy to find the good content myself, and someone offers to not only find it but narrate it for me
Calling Karl scummy for having an ad is some serious smooth brain shit. It’s also pretty sad the guy was trying to cope saying Karl shouldn’t bother responding to him, despite making a ludicrous claim that Karl is trying to squeeze money from this situation and saying Karls following is bigger than his so why bother responding to him in the first place.
You can’t cry when the person you’re calling out actually comes and argues back, that’s not how the internet works.
To paraphrase Karl, “what a pathetic beach.”
People who do that are just trying to find any little crumb they can in hopes of taking the spotlight off of Jerard.
Just like Open Hand, Karl is not a charity doing things for free.
Unlike Open Hand, Karl doesn't lie to boost revenue.
Yeah him and like a billion other UA-camrs.
What a dumbsht take, indeed. A youtuber making a living off of UA-cam, how scandalous.
Also let's just ignore embezzling charity funds for 9 years, this guy Karl's the real criminal coz he got a sponsor 🙃🤡
Uhhh, That's exactly how the internet works
Sea of Stars devs should absolutely replace Jirard with an NPC named "The Constructionist" that asks for donations and never builds anything... 😂😂
Honestly would be such a great reference
But his character was already called the Constructionist and he does ask for donations in game.
@@alenezi989a3Change it to The CONstructionist then and they never build anything after receiving donations.
@@alenezi989a3 and he ask using phrases that jirard used in indieland to ask for donos xD
I loved when Jirard was like "I'm against the racists! I'm one of the good people! I believe all The Correct Things! This isn't supposed to happen to the good people!"
Nailed it
Like why did Johntron get sucked into this? Wtf did he do other than express his opinions? That crowd absolutely believes that their beliefs dictate how good of a person you are.
Fully agreed
have you seen the debate? he believes nazi shit about the white race lol @@shplorf1977
@@shplorf1977 I guess you could say they were being... uncharitable xD
"Saying I was blindly defending him is ridiculous."
- outlines exactly how he was blindly defending him -
Great job, AntDude.
i guess too much kirby is good for one's sanity
Just like Kirby he swallowed up and copied everything
Great, now I need to add AnDude to my list of people to hate. :(
@@swishfish8858 Idk about hating him for trying to stand by a POS he calls a friend but he was one of those guys who prefers the Court to tell us he's guilty as opposed to the Internet and two investigative dudes. IMO he should've just stayed out of this and prayed for his friend to be innocent than try to remind us not to jump to conclusions or show any kind of support for Jirard.
*_"Villains who twirl their mustaches are easy to spot. Those who cloak themselves in good deeds are well camouflaged, waiting for the right climate in which to flourish, spreading fear in the name of righteousness."_* - Jean-Luc Picard
I love this quote, do you remember what episode it's from?
@@ultimate9056 Yes it is taken from the very end of Season 4, Episode 21 called "The Drumhead."
It is a very pertinent quote, not just for Jirad but for the whole western world as a whole.
I'm sure there will be a clip of this scene out there, somewhere, if you are looking for it. Look for "End scene of The Drumhead S04, E21."
Never forget the end of that speech, it's my favorite bit and the most relevant to any discourse of this nature:
_"Vigilance, Mr. Worf. That is the price we must continually pay."_
The familyBovine must hate the idea that journalists, reporters and news anchors get paid when they talk about a tragedy.
“This will likely not change until this situation is settled in court. Until then, we know nothing for certain”
-Bonsai Pop
Dude you don’t need a court to tell you that Jirard lied about the donations.
And it's not like court suddenly gives the rubber stamp of truthness to whether or not something happened just because it's taken "to court".
PERSON 1: "He totally SA'd my little sister, I have the pictures!"
PERSON 2: "Yeah but that could be a picture of anyone; I guess we won't know for sure until it goes to court!"
Honestly still feels like cope.
"Yeah Jirard literally admitted to defrauding a charity. But nothing's certain till the court says so"
Like dude 😅
Especially when there could be some legal loopholes he can get through, the fact is he lied and committed charity fraud, whether the "court" finds it so or not is completely different, being legal doesn't mean being ethical or morally right
Bonsai Pop sounds like someone who needs to lick Jirards balls until the very bitter end. 😂
I can't believe this is a grown adult saying this as if he can't use his own critical thinking skills to be able to conclude with the available evidence that even if Jirard is legally off the hook and had no evil intentions, at the very minimum he still made a major fuck up that has actual damages done. I refuse to believe an adult can be so stupid and blind to what is happening
i love that one guy completely fucking ignoring the heaps of evidence that jirard committed charity fraud because "jirard is so nice to me though"
somehow goes on for a massive fucking twitlonger about it
thats the type of person who says they are not interested in talking about it while typing a wall of text xD
Can’t stop laughing at the “But Karl took a sponsor!” People. He apologized for doing it and all of us who understand that things cost money went “it’s cool bro, keep up the good work and get that bread. You deserve it.”
People who complain about youtubers taking sponsorship (not bad ones, just taking a sponsorship period) are the most infuriating types in the world.
Let's just donate straight to Karl. Case closed 👍
He didn't apologize. He said, this is my job. It's how I support my wife and kid. They are more important to me than your feelings about UA-camrs.
I only wish he had taken a sponsor on all his videos, at times he doesnt because he doesn't want to offend people, but what he found is, they get offended anyway, so fuck em. Get paid for your work, Karl.
He didn't apologize, not that he needed to
Antdude made a statement that basically amounts to "I did not watch anyone's video and I defended my friend so back the fuck up" because that's really what his statement is because saying he didn't know means he didn't watch either one of the videos that were released when it first happened.
@@speinz9430 Yep, the statement where he shifts blame, does not actually apologize for insulting Karl and Muta, and says when he tweeted that the claims were false he actually meant some racist tweets he saw(if this was true he would have clarified this in the original tweet.). All of this instead of just apologizing for tweeting without watching the videos. If you think he actually cares he defended a con artist I have a bridge to sell you. He's a grifter with a fake smile, same as his friend the Completionist.
Defended him so hard and didnt bother to watch any of the videos how can you defend your friend and not know what your defending them from
@@lightingmcqueen522 not the point.
Point is they were mistaken and now look even dumber for blindly defending a scumbag.
Stop trying to fight it with "wouldn't you do that for a friend?" Of course the answer is "yeah". Is that supposed to be some kind of own?
Just take the L's.
@lightingmcqueen522 well most people would wait and see not fight battles on twitter like why did these fuckers even comment on the situation kinda nothing to do with them.
@@lightingmcqueen522no ofcourse not, being actually just is important listening to both sides and then deciding, telling your friend that he made a mistake and should apologize is being a good friend, defending him blindly is being a bad friend.
I love this twitter lunatic calling Karl and Muta "chronically online" as he types out 500 paragraphs worth of tweets in response, rofl
Which is funny because Muta has a job outside of UA-cam and both him and Karl are married. Quite literally the opposite of being terminally online. Unlike Cow boy over there who's whole behavior during all that sh*t is the exact same behavior of someone who's terminally online.
He's Completing his Career with this one
Fr
How about you complete a job application?
Sitting on a toilet
@@Jriniscool To be fair, if it’s what he’s being accused of is true
He’s an absolute scumbag, especially considering his mom had dementia.
1.5k👍
Here's a short story: a roommate I lived with, someone I considered a friend, one day accused me of wronging him with no proof. And when I say "accused" I mean he talked to the landlord behind my back and got me kicked out. My best friend, who was best friends with him, didn't immediately come to my defense but he didn't take his the roommate's side either. Instead, he waited and heard me out just like he heard him out to get both sides of the story rather than adamantly defending either of us because he knew it was too serious yet vague of a situation to make a judgement call.
I bring this up because this is an *actual* reasonable response to such events that can tear apart relationships in the blink of an eye. Normal people don't just throw their friends under the bus but normal people also don't just outright believe everything their friend says just because they said so. Its called common sense and when you no longer have the capacity for it, you should admit to your behavior and mistakes you make when you lose it. That's what is normal. All of these people are upset and embarrassed that they were made fools of for blindly believing Jirad.
The funny thing is, all these hyper long responses and short worded deflections are proof on their own that despite all the time they were given to watch and review evidence against their friend, they still chose to blindly support him under the guise of "wait and see". Had the initial findings been super vague and unclear from the get go then I would understand the defense people mounted for Jirard but both Muta and Karl were very thorough right out the gate with receipts and details that left very little room for doubt. These people here may want to act like their actions were justified and reasonable but the truth is that they weren't. They actively ignored proof to protect their friend which NEVER ends up well in these controversies. I have no sympathy and no pity for any of them. They got played and instead of owning up to it, they try to desperately absolve themselves of their actions in a vain attempt to save face. Hmmmmm.... almost like someone else we all know
To be fair, it isn't impossible to fake receipts and details. Editing web pages and false web pages exist all the time while it taking 10 years for people to realize is suspicious. You can, through the inspect function, edit stuff like the text you wrote and take a screen shot. Scam sites have existed near identical to real sites. In the end Jirard is guilty, but people can and will go a long way to lie.
That's one heck of a story. How did it resolve and what caused it?
That's the whole thing though, waiting until you get evidence to make a statement, that's like literally what even Muta and Karl were doing, their first video was basically "hey this looks shady, but Jirard has a right to respond." If people who you don't agree with can have the respect to wait for evidence to come out before making accusations, then the least the defenders can do is backtrack when the evidence comes out.
Notice how in all the clips Jirard is more concerned about his image and career than he is about doing the right thing and donating the money. He's absolutely cooked and it will take a miracle to bring him back
yep it’s gonna take quite a miracle to comeback, especially with how bad his apology video is. He did the bare minimum, donating the money, but adding emotional manipulation is just terrible and disingenuous. He needs to hold himself MORE accountable. Waiting for the court case to address all these other complex elements and the unaccounted golf money. It’s pretty bad but Colleen Ballinger’s apology is absolutely the worst one of 2023
TheFamilyBovine is the type of the guy who leaves an empty box of Twinkies in the pantry and gets upset at someone else for that empty box being there. To quote Karl Jobst, "what an absolute buffoon."
He came to the circus and outclowned the clown car and mental gymnastics his way to the Ringleader.
Ironic for a lolcow to name himself the family's cow.
"Damn it! How am I supposed to know we're out of crack if you leave the empty crack box in the pantry!?"
He's a walking advertisement for birth control
Quite literally the perfect example of a guy making an idiotic statement and when he gets mocked for being a dumbass they pull the "Wow, so many triggered people. I'm taking a break."
This is something you expect out of a comedy video.
One of the worst parts is that its a friend group channel. so the one person in charge of the tweets just shat the bed for the entire friend group.
jirard: if they're gonna expose me, i will threaten them with possible lawsuits
muta and karl: guess it's time to release the full call if he wants to play
They completely destroyed him after that. No one sane lawyer is going to look at this and say "Yeah we have a shot of pulling this off"
FYI
Jirards "My response" video currently has 20k Likes and 85k Dislikes
oh lord it’s so over
Lol
And yet... even with such an unfavourable ratio... that volume of remaining defenders is still egregious! I like to think a lot of those "likes" were spontaneous copes and have been ultimately swayed since then.
Remember: Dislikes are only displayed by a browser extension that collects its OWN dislikes. We have zero way of knowing the actual dislike numbers, only the numbers from the kinds of people that need to see dislikes of any kind (and who typically frequently use the dislike button themselves). The value is skewed.
(that said it's not hard to imagine that the real value is any better for Jirard lmao)
Some of the people who initially responded with their takes on Jirard and apologized for making rash judgments later are even. Except Bonsai Pop. He seemed to dig into his position when the mountain of evidence is presented to prove that he isn't a "kind" or "honest" person. He seems pretty content with Jirard and his actions.
Yeah that's parasocial dependency, Jirard said nice things to him and he met him once at a conference, and apparently he fell in love and got attached from that moment on. While Jirard doesn't even know he exists, It's just sad.
I like how not liking my sims is on the same level with racism, cheating and charity fraud.
Just like being French there are some crimes out there that can never be forgiven.
@@SpedyFoxIV Amen
I am not as fond of Sims either, never got the hype behind it, but I don't exactly hate it neither... Even then, guess I too am a high ranking Uncle Ruckus, Cheaty the Cheat Skate, and The Fraudulentionst XD.
lmfao at the clip
he knows he's gonna get eaten by wolves the same way Jon and Jared were while he supported that
reap what you sow
UA-camrs when they apologized for defending someone doing shady things : *releases a long essay with a deep backstory and lore*
"Well you see, morality isn't always black and white, you see there are shades of gray..."
@@enthiegavoir5955 I know but, could've just said they shouldn't have defended the guy tho.
When it's your friend, you want to defend them, especially when you been with them for years and the things being said against them is out of their character.
@@SuperSpeed21yeah. But there is difference between believing in your friend vs ignoring anything opposing your friend.
It was a fact from day one that 600k+ was not get donated. In my opinion, A good friend and good person seek answers about that. I think many his friends and fans just wanted to put dirt on it and move on.
You just tweet "my bad, i'm sorry".
But they have to keep their moral high ground and prevent their ego from taking a hit so we ended up with this long convoluted tweets.
saddest part is he could have came back from this is he just apologized ernestly. he had the rare boon of the public being on his side at first he could have just took the L donated the money did another charity stream properly showed the reciepts and been back in good graces. but he just kept digging and digging him self into a hole
That's the crazy part to me. Bro won. He literally tricked all of these people so hard that they were willing to defend him for lying to donations for 10 YEARS. All he had to do was not fuck it up and play nice in front of muta and Karl and dude was home free. But somehow, someway, bro managed to threaten to sue two of, like maybe 10 or so, content creators threatening to sue wouldn't work on. This is the internet equivalent of talking yourself into a ticket when the police officer pulled you over just for a warning.
My guess that he couldn't at that point. Probably has much more that we don't know, we still don't know anything from the Golf. Best he could've delayed it.
I want to believe that a true apology could have reduced the damage, but I have the feeling we only saw the peak of the iceberg, and the rest will be revealed in court.
Sad.
@@magicalcapi9148 He could've passed the buck, having someone else take the fall because he trusted them blindly. That would've been a great way to turn things around if that individual even admitted to being at fault.
Then he swears to do better and be 100% transparent.
@@Dragoonsoul7878He kind did that, no? He stepped down from the foundation. But I imagine he can't (he can~, but...) put the blame on someone else, because, you know, all the people in the foundation are his family.
Yeah...
"Read a book and tell your mom ill be over later, peasant"
Okay that was pretty good 🤣
I remember seeing Jirard's eShop video in my feed awhile ago and I sat there completely dumbfounded as to why anyone would make a video about buying them all for the sake of "preservation." For those not in the know, Nintendo's eShop security was pretty godawful up until the Switch (and it probably still is), and there were programs that let you rip just about any game from their servers provided you had the proper license, of which several people had already dumped the vast majority of, if not the entire catalog of both the Wii U and 3DS before the eShop's shuttering. The community had been on top of it since probably the Wii (the WiiWare archive is like 97% complete iirc). It shocked me how many rubes bought into his supposed act of charity when that money would have gone to much greater use archiving the PS3 and Vita's online libraries, of which only around 70% of what we know of is backed up, and the axe constantly looms over those platforms' heads.
I mean, if we're being honest, he made the video because he knew it was definitely going to make the money back
I can actually comment here on this: There's a vast difference between the legal act of purchase and donating to an archival preservation society, versus skimming from the illegal rom sharing community. I do agree that those libraries would have been more useful, but the eShop was in the process of being axed, not just had the threat of the axe looming, so it also made for an excellent PR stunt on top of the legalistic differences.
I will never understand the blind defense people can have for youtubers they will never breathe next to in real life just because they said some nice things about them online in the past. You do not know these people. You don't know what they're capable of. People regurgitating that Jirard is a nice guy is because they can't fathom the thought that they made a poor choice in friends. It's all about THEIR ego and refusal to admit that they don't know everything and aren't as virtuous as they think they are.
TheFamilyBovine went from "Karl is immoral" to "I'm a huge fan of yours" in the span of two posts.
I can't see a single shred of guilt coming from Jirard's friends, none of them feel sorry for downplaying the situation and attacking the victims who donated to charity.
All I see are long-winded texts of self-pity just to save their careers.
Yup. Nobody wants to go back to flipping burgers at McDonald's
Can't blame 'em. Being connected to such a trashfire will destroy their careers, whether they did anything or not. That's how the Internet works, "everyone that isn't against the bad person is just as bad if not worse". And when your career depends entirely on lots of people liking you, getting turned against so dramatically is death.
These are not apologies. These are grifters.
Agreed
Fr. Funny how people's *personal beliefs changes with public opinion.
@@dogbackwards7658
No one can change. You are the exact same person you were when you were 1.
@@LightCrib2Big agree. I stand by that time I said "Googoo Gaga" and violently packed my diaper
@@LaputanMachadThat diaper did nothing, and you will always be a monster for what you did.
Jirard really shat the bed here. He should change his name to The Excretionist.
🤣💀
Amber heard moment
Give him the Excretionist Rating of "Constipated".
@@SRBAnimate I like how that phrase now is directly related to Amber xD
Either that or Mr. Hankey. Maybe he kept the money while hooked on Ambien. JK
It was pretty funny when someone tried to pull the whole parasocial relationship argument on Antdude and he was just like "Uh... I know Jirard in real life, bro."
the moment i saw the full recording published, I KNEW we would get a part 4
Finally something the completionist actually completes, his career.
I see you everywhere
Is Pipkin Pippa still breedable turtle chad?
how are u always commenting early on multiple different videos
how does bonsai STILL believe in Jirard 💀💀
It's easier to fool someone than it is to convince someone they've been fooled. No one wants to acknowledge, especially publicly, that they were fooled.
Stockholm syndrome
Simple bonsai is r e t a r d e d
They themselves have skeletons. Remmeber he mentioned his own charity .. just saying..
Remember that Billy Mitchell also still has some die-hard supporters.
And they all look and some literally are basement dwelling losers.
WE GETTIN CHARITABLE WITH THIS ONE 🔥
IN 10 YEARS 🗣️🔥
Honestly WillyMacShow makes a valid point, people need money in order to survive in this world and if they don't get it they have to move on and drop whatever they were doing
So Karl putting sponsorships in his videos never bothered me especially since you can just skip ahead into the video to avoid it
But lets be real if Karl putting a tiny sponsorship in his video is considered "Scummy as fuck" then what does that say about Jirard and what he's done
Bro, why even throw ProJared and JonTron under the bus?
I used to look up Beardman but now… now my heart just hurts. Yet another pillar of my teenage years has crumbled.
That one felt extra bad cuz Jared went 100% in with no hesitation to defend Jirard. Yeah his statements were dumb, but at least he stuck by his friend whereas Jirard knifed him for no reason.
@@merphul I’d feel bad for Jared as well had he not been all “cancel culture bad” during and after his big controversy, only to turn around and jump on the first cancel bandwagon that reached his eyes as soon as everyone moved on from his thing. He lowkey had it coming.
Jon did nothing wrong. Jon is the funniest of NormalBoots anyway. ProJared is weird, but at least he didn't do illegal shit.
It all come tumbling down
I remember when he distanced himself from jared when Jared had his controversies. Even then, jirard didn't seem like a good friend. He'll throw anyone under the bus if it will protect his image
Antdude is more concerned with random on Twitter than any of people involved. Defending Jirard because a dude no one knows said something racist? Who cares man. Don't shine light on it, you're just muddling the water.
Thing is, responding to a close friend being accused of crime would naturally be to get on their side. However, the embarrassing part is to state your support loudly, and denouncing the accuser. I won't pretend like I remember every piece of the accusation from Mutahar or Karl, but I'm sure I've watched more than ProJared did when he told them to "talk to Jirard".
When Jirard said he had "20 mouths to feed" makes me wonder if his family even works or were they all just wanting to syphon off the charity scheme forever. 19:06 how tf can a single streamer take care of 20 people to the point they can't take care of themselves.
he probably spiced the number up.
anyway, jirards family has money. what jirad fees is his yes men posse to some degree, the people who write the scripts etc.
I think he wasn't just saying family, but his employees. Which is weird, but so is everything else he said in that call.
I recall Jirard saying in multiple videos that when he does eventually decide to stop making episodes of Completionist, his final episode would be about Donkey Kong Country (it was either 2 or 3, I forgot which one)
At this rate, we might be getting that final episode sooner than we expected lol
It was 2. He considered that game the one to complete last cuz of some symbolic crap or w.e. like Diddy going from sidekick to hero to one of the GOATS of gaming according to Cranky.
At this point, Jirard really can't defend himself. Everything just looks bad
The whole thing about Jirard being praised for "Preserving" the entire Wii U and 3DS library is hilarious when you know that not only do people already preserve that stuff years ago and didn't brag about it in social media, but of course Nintendo also preserved all the sh*t that mattered in those consoles as well. Literally doing it for the clout and nothing more its just hilarious.
Never use Vito again... the guy has no room to speak on anything
I know he has questionable takes but I show tweets based on like count and relevance. I don't exclude people cause they've had bad takes in the past
This is genuinely why if your going to good things , make sure their for good reasons. The fakeness comes out in the wash one way or another , time is the only thing that changes
I love how half this video is Twitter v Jirard, and the other half is Twitter v TheFamilyBovine lmao he had it coming
Bonsai really determined to die on that hill smh
Automatically defending someone just because they are your friend is pure clownery
Pretty much. It's kinda understandable but still really foolish especially when it involves charity fraud.
Well, I used to respect Bonsai Pop after he responded to your last video, but I see he's also a practitioner of guilt trips, screw that guy as well.
He said he donated to BLM too. So he's clearly someone who's an easy mark for grifters.
@hammondOT to be clear I just saw that he responded and vaguely skimmed it, but turns out his "apology" is littered with phrases like "I'm sure you would like to see me fail" which at this point I can't say such a though would disappoint me.
Leads me to believe he doesn't vet charities enough like he apparently claims.
His friends say he wasnt being evil intentionally is such bs. Im sorry he used his freinds and his DEAD MOM as shields while knowing about it for years and money is just gone. The whole family is likely crooked at this point.
that's like defending a drunk driver with excusing the behavior by the fact that they were drunk.
i lost my dad to cancer 20 years ago when i was obviously a bit younger, i have never used that for sympathy, and my dad and i were bffs, the way he constantly uses his mom's death is insulting
Ant dude had a pretty good apology. He admitted he was being biased and he didn’t just go against his friend. Which if he did would’ve made him look like a huge snake but yeah I can understand him. I’ve tried to defend my friends even when they do some really bad shit and I had to realize I was being biased and had to cut them off to grow
AntDude was capping in his apology, though.
He's going so far as pretending that when he said "outrageous claims", he wasn't talking about the accusations.
Suddenly, it's about "death threats". Threats aren't claims. He should just own being wrong without retconning your own tweets.
i absolutely disagree , that "apology" was ass. it was basically a "i apologize .... although i didn't do anything wrong , here's doubling down"
Character development on his part.
Dang how many NormalBoots members are left that hasn't been caught doing some bad things?
i think cadicarus is one thats left
Pbg?
PBG is fine. I don’t know anything about Continue? these days, if they still exist.
They also had other members added on later (ProJared was one of those), who I think have mostly been uncontroversial… I think.
@@amiano59e4Cadi is HiddenBlock
@@HeathenRenegade Nah Jared already got his controversy
That audio call was wild! No way he can recover from this 😳
It's funny how a lot of the ''bigger Jirard defenders'' use the whole friendship excuse and don't want to instantly condemn someone, yet felt it was totally fine to lambast any detractors instantly without taking any of the facts into account.
I get you don't want to go against someone you look up to or consider a friend, but there is always the option of not saying anything and just waiting until all the facts come out. But no, as if on impulse you instantly felt the need to respond and make a fool out of yourself.
This is what twitter brain rot looks like.
I think people do that sort of stuff in a disingenuous way. In their head they probably thought Jirard was legit and wanted to get in his good graces so in the event he's proven innocent they can all go 'Look Jirard, look. I defended you from the get go Jirard. Let's be friends Jirard', and maybe collab or or be in his inner circle or something in the future.
they also certainly had no problem torching Jared (not all of them) or Jon (all of them)
@@lanceuppercut6168 I had not even considered that angle yet, yeah there might be some who think like that also.
Though I do not want give them too much credit because that is too calculative for most of them, most of the responses were done without much thought behind it.
Remember the time MissFushi said "And I will remember you for it."? Pepperidge farms remembers. It's okay to persecute others when think you're in the right, it seems but how quickly she backs out now.
An they just want to dip out willy nilly like they didn't stick their nose into it. No no, shit don't work like that. I hope everyone remember her for it.
@@lanceuppercut6168 For the record it's fine to defend someone. At times that is. Defending with OJ Simpson levels of evidence is another thing. Defending after a nonapology video is another level of silly. At least she backed off but don't take such a strong stance that quickly peeps. You never know someone.
aww, you missed my conversation with vito. :(
sorry. there was sooo many tweets to cover, I wasn't able to catch them all :(
@@Bowblax2 That's okay, I was making stupid takes, like Jirard's got some many skeletons coming out now, he must have Narnia in the back of his closet :P
There are orbiters in his video gaming social circle defending him and i find that almost equally as sleazy as what Jerard did.
Love how all these youtubers wanna post giant novels explaining themselves instead of just making a video where you could see them lying.
Why pollute their content pipeline with drama that their majority audience isn't even aware of? The point is to distance themselves from the issue, not actually confront it. :P
The first reply basically got it twitter is a whole different animal and strangely enough you can kinda say stupid or outlandish things without much repercussions elsewhere because most rational people have long given up on twitter and avoid it like the plague in fact I found out about UA-camrs twitter comments thru this video and wouldn’t have known about any of these post if I didn’t watch this which is crazy because some of these people I watch at least once in a while or semi regularly..
All he had to do was donate it, make a video apologizing and take the consequences on the chin
AntDude coming out with the “THiS iS thE LasT TImE I’lL ADdrEss THis” and trying to sweep his defensiveness under the rug and pass the buck is scummy AF too.. honestly hope that person sees appropriate consequences regarding people not wanting to work with them in the future.
I mean, this shit is none of his business so it's better to just end the conversation than drag it out until an actual conclusion occurs because we're going nowhere and we're wasting time arguing over some famous people most of us don't know in real life.
And unless he had an actual hand in the scandal, dude only deserves the stink of defending POS and nothing more.
Him constantly bringing up his mom doesn't even bother me. What does is him using the word 'legacy'. Like, dude what 'legacy'? Don't you have to actually DO SOMETHING in order to have a legacy?
The craziest thing honestly is that ProJared's big "scandal" was a Crazy ex trying to destroy him. The dude was a horn dog but he actually didnt do anything and proved himself to actually br a good guy.
Jon had his bad moments thats for damn sure but he kept things in the down low for the most part and he came back fresh applogized and ready to start completely over while other youtubers like H3H3 tried to rekindle the drama and ended up completely failing and just gardnering support for Jon.
Basically two guys who ended up right and better after their "Drama's"
So to try and attack them Now after they been forgiven and gotten followings again is fucken insane.
I thought Hilter attacking Russia was the stupidest mistake anyone could of ever made but this is up there
Because At least he had his retro buddies on his side.
But people seeing him turning on Jared and Jon like that
Really pushed him out of friendly territory and a war on two fronts
The craziest thing is, ProJared came to Jirads defense when all this started.
@@NemesisOgreKingand I don’t know why. Didn’t Jirard throw him under the bus when he was going through his own controversy years ago? why would you defend someone who already proved they are willing to stab you in the back?
Even though what Jon said wasn’t wrong but he doesn’t do great in debates.
Jon was racist and still stands by his claims as evident with his twitter
Ah, Godwin's Law works every time. Hitler just randomly mentioned in a post discussing youtube drama, lol.
(I understand what you've meant, btw, just find it funny when people do it)
I hope Greg Wilmot is sitting somewhere with a mug of cocoa and good company, quietly enjoying a healthy bit of Christmas schadenfreude. In hindsight, you gotta wonder, if he knew something and demanded to be removed from Jirard's brand so completely for a reason.
Why don't you take a piece and just shut the F up big bad boy
And he was the best part of those videos...
If I recall wasn't it rumored to be based on money related things?
That and the suspicious clear times Jirard sometimes had, it almost feels like this should've been more obvious something was up and that things were not honest.
greg made a reddit post in completionis2 sub basically saying fuck jirard, he didn't know they were charity fruads but apparently the entire family were grade A scumfucks and something like this is only not surprising but somewhat expected. that being one of the reasons he had the videos taken down. didnt want his face associated with anything that family was doing. he also said hes happily married with two kids playing the banjo and enjoying life
this is probably one of the worst things about all this drama, other people being drawn into it just because they knew Jirrard.
Twittards when they realize that Karl stated he can’t afford not having sponsers because he has a family to take care of
that wont stop them from complaining about it. the people who hate sponsorships cant be reasoned with.
Thanks for covering the situation.
He's finished! The Conpletionist soiled his mama's good name to make a quick buck! *SOILED IT!* (21x)
@23:32 I just have to mention that I feel that the sponsor in Karl's most recent video was to deliberately make the people who complained about it in his second video even more angry, and while I have no skin in him having sponsors, I find that hilarious.
Jirard should have taken the L, donated the money apologized and kept his mouth shut. But he went on video to threaten lawsuits . Karl and Muta said ok if that’s how we’re gonna play. They gave him ample opportunity to do the right thing but he doubled down and lied on video in his ‘apology’
12:00 Kinda ironic hearing this because The Completionist took down the videos that ProJared was featured when allegations went up and he wasn't fully proven guilty yet. He then backpedaled after ProJared made his defense video. And now after ProJared blindly defended Jirard, Jirard threw him under the bus by using his drama as a shield. Wow.
Jontron has had some very bad moments in his life, and i think at this point he doesn't have many of his old connections left (at least publicly). But to see Jirad throw him under the bus in his own desperate hour is so sad to see
Jared was playing stupid games and got his stupid prizes. Simping and trying to have fun with some people... but he never did anything wromg to anything other than HIMSELF.
Jon was just a victim of political action. He did absolutely nothing wrong, quite the opposite. Nowadays you get cancelled for stating a fact.
Fuck Jerard.
One of the best lessons we can all learn from this is never jump the gun. When stuff gets bad, instead of leaping to social media to yell at people who don’t agree with you, just turn it off, take a walk, and go from there. Arguing on social media does nothing and only makes YOU look bad.
Yep. Whether it be defense or hate, you should always check out both sides while trying to absorb that bit of news. I kinda did that with Karl's first Jirard video even though he was going easy at the time.
Karl is trolling and I love it
Look this has gone on for far enough now is the time for the Lawyers and the IRS to do their own investigation into this and to see what the courts will say.
Considering the way Jirard tried to manipulate Karl and Muta into dropping the story makes me wonder if Jirard has pulled a similar stunt before.
He's been running an entertainment business for over a decade. Manipulation is necessary for survival in that industry.
Ant Dude just ate and swallowed up Jirard's lies just like his favourite character swallows and copies everything :D
Can't blame him for trying to be a good friend. It was still stupid but at least he and the rest of us learned our lesson.
Jirard removal from sea of stars really makes it the best indie game of 2023
It's hoarding time -Jirard Khalil
They really engineered a bike designed to only pedal backward just for Jirard’s friends! How charitable!
They aren’t bad for defending them but they still should face the bed they made, they should’ve taken a different stance like I don’t know what the full situation is and ill wait for everything to be understood and resolved and make my full opinion, I will be behind him for being his friend but I won’t say anything else until everything is resolved,
I agree. I get standing by people you knew and cared for and I know the Internet tends eat this news up like candy and will immediately side against Jirard or alike but yeah, after my personal experiences with blindingly siding with people, I tend to stay on the fence until more info is brought up or just keep my thoughts to myself until it's all over like you said.
fun fact about the jontron and projared... i think both of them did charities... idk if they pocketed funds tho.
AntDude's statement was actually pretty alright, all things considered. I've seen folks claim that he's "backpedaling" and "shifting blame," but I dont see it at all. And I've read it multiple times.
Wow, that leaked Discord call. Excuses, guilt-tripping, gaslighting, bribery, deflections and throwing unrelated people under the bus, Jirard is getting more and more pathetic every time he opens his mouth.
06:00 No forgiveness. These youtubers made their bed and now they're gonna suffer in it. You're not allowed to change your mind!
I hate the fact that a lot of Jirard's defenders when backpedaling are using the excuses of hate comments and mental health to justify their actions, like dude everyone can find a bad comment or two in their thread and posting the screenshots of them doesn't mean shit. You just defended a dude that committed charity fraud, and scrolling down the replies on your tweet and finding hate comments and telling the people talking shit to you that they are bad because of hate comments and then using the mental health exuse is just pathetic
the audacity to say you were manipulated by him so you defended him is insane
The scumbag came back to grab more money on twitch. I would love to see a follow up so maybe we can know if he had other things planned with the money purely by public backslash. I love your videos man, hope you keep the format and quality.
They all should've kept all their mouths shut honestly, they instantly sided with a guy whilst painting the other side as drama grifters.
Now that the tables have turned they just make shallow ass apologies and excuses, like plz nobody cares. Go back to gaming/game reviews because this stuff is way to complicated for dumbasses with rose tinted glasses for a guy that merely treated them nice in person.
I may be harsh saying all this but it's so annoying how all these people just drag an apology on by making the most obvious excuses that anyone could see from the very beginning.
Every sane person knew these fools were acting on emotions and not thinking as they proceeded to yap yap yap. People told them it was stupid.
Ya know ima be honest, im trying my hardest to look at this situation without bias. Its a big reason im just watching this go down without giving a dog shit take. All i can say is i feel hurt since the completionist is one of my favorite content creators. I just hope people will be civil about this.
what if the "the Completionist" forgot about the money thus proving he had no ill intentions? if "The Completiontist" spent the money then he is S.O.L. There is capital fraud then there is unintentional fraud just look at the "Black Lives Matter Movement" where its Female Black Leader used all its freaking donated money to treat her self ,but never use it to fix actual Black Lives. me being a black person that was more disgusting than what the Completionist is doing right now.