Frost Protected Shallow Foundation Using ICFs? Part 3

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  • Опубліковано 27 січ 2025

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  • @oldvideos1
    @oldvideos1 11 місяців тому +2

    Nice! good work.. now waiting for part 4 :)

    • @DBrisky37
      @DBrisky37 10 місяців тому

      Same here. Nice work so far

  • @qualitybydesign5119
    @qualitybydesign5119 5 місяців тому +1

    Very concise. Nice work.🇨🇦

  • @kevinkaviani1922
    @kevinkaviani1922 9 місяців тому +1

    Nice work sir! I specially appreciate all the detail drawings :)

  • @haighyvshaighy
    @haighyvshaighy 11 місяців тому +1

    Did you see the new braces they just came out with for the ICF fox product? They’re literally what you could have used instead of altering the black supports. They’re green and they allow you to cut that section out but they added a vertical support in the middle. I think they’re under “curb blocking”

    • @This_Old_Garage
      @This_Old_Garage  11 місяців тому

      Fox Blocks is another innovative system. That's an awesome product if you also want to have a curb, which is nice in getting the sill plate up and away from moisture. I never had to touch the black plastic ties. Flipping the blocks upside-down allowed me to barely miss them when cutting down the foam. For whatever reason, they're about 3" from the top, but about 4" from the bottom on the LiteForm.

  • @haighyvshaighy
    @haighyvshaighy 11 місяців тому

    Love this idea. I've been waiting for this video in your series for this project. Not sure if you mentioned it in previous vids but what area of the country do you live in? I 'm up in acceptable

    • @This_Old_Garage
      @This_Old_Garage  11 місяців тому +1

      I'm in central IL. It's 36" to frost line here. FPSF beats having to dig 3 ft. by hand. Instead, it was just 16". (ICF is 16" tall, plus 2" bottom foam, plus 4" base, minus 6" above-grade height equals 16" dig.) Vertical and horizontal insulation requirement and thickness are determined by climate. Search for "air freezing index determines R-value" for a chart. Hope this helps!

  • @charlesviner1565
    @charlesviner1565 Годину тому

    👍🧱

  • @morehp1
    @morehp1 Місяць тому

    Freezes in my state doesn’t hurt the slab u simple had bad ground prep and no rebar.

    • @This_Old_Garage
      @This_Old_Garage  Місяць тому

      Yeah, rebar wasn't a standard when it was built in the 1930s. Rebar was a huge advancement, but base prep and reinforcement doesn't guarantee a slab won't crack or shift. Lots of factors including mix quality, control joints, grading, drainage, heavy loads, tree roots, burrowing animals.

  • @badawesome
    @badawesome 11 місяців тому +1

    By adding the pile or pier you are basically saying that you don't trust the frost protected shallow foundation.

    • @This_Old_Garage
      @This_Old_Garage  11 місяців тому

      It's more about increasing the safety factor. FPSF already incorporate multiple ways (for safety) to protect from frost: 1. NFS soil beneath, 2. perimeter insulation, and 3. surface grading. Nothing wrong with adding one more for very little effort.
      The pilings were a recommendation and technique used by my concrete guy who knew about the previous issues with the corners due to less than ideal grading and drainage.

    • @badawesome
      @badawesome 9 місяців тому +1

      @@This_Old_Garage So the concrete guy doesn't trust the frost protected shallow foundation either.

    • @This_Old_Garage
      @This_Old_Garage  8 місяців тому +3

      @@badawesome Sure. In the same way you putting on a seat belt says you don't trust the airbags, crumple zones, safety glass, etc.
      Codes establish the bare minimum standards (the absolute _worst_ you are allowed to build), which don't always result in the best long-term outcome. It's okay to exceed the minimum requirements in construction and there are times when it's beneficial or even necessary to do so.