KennieJD Finally Watched HEATHERS and It's a WILD RIDE! | In Defense Of Ep 8
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- Опубліковано 17 жов 2024
- Make way for the Heathers! This 1989 black comedy, featuring the aptly named clique of high school girls almost-all-named Heather, flopped during its initial release. However, it has made waves as a cult classic ever since, and Judge KennieJD is here to provide her takes! Watch the full episode now for all the juicy, spicy deets!
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I actually like Heathers. For once the toxic relationship actually doesn't work out, and the revenge fantasy actually backfires.
Agreed
backfires! agreed
@@MoreButter this movie started my Winona Ryder crush. Then Alien Resurrection where she has a gun bigger than her. That's sexy. Now Stranger Things where her sexy is at Zenith level.
This!
@@NeeceLoneWolf I remember going "she is too good for him" throughout the movie LOL
Does Heathers even need defending? It’s a total cult classic. Super self-aware and biting while revelling in its cheesy, 80s aesthetic. You also cannot tell me the costume design does not slap. Veronic’s fit at the gas station when she meets JD? The Heathers’ color-coordinated outfits? Iconic.
I guess because it is so dark, doesn’t make its points super obvious, and has humor that some could offended by, that it could need some defending. But it is probably more of a classic and more influential than its ever been.
Some of it probably does😂 being a cult classic doesnt mean much considering the tons of weird sht ppl are into
"So she ends up hooking up with JD- again, no relation" I laughed way harder at this than I should have
LMAO
I honestly never saw this movie as homophobic.. the two guys get murdered by JD because they are violent homophobic bullies and they are further punished by being painted as gay lovers in their death, I see the depiction of homophobia typical of that time but the final message that I got is not anti-gay (I'm giving this perspective as a bi woman)
Also this movie gave us the iconic quote "I love my dead gay son" and just this did so much for the queer community
I would run to buy I love my dead gay son merch…unfortunately I think it’s a no go from like everyplace I’ve even seen
I’m actually surprised how many people find it homophobic! The scene where the cops find the “evidence” left by JD cracks me up every time. And I’m someone who usually finds “ironic homophobia” genuinely triggering.
@@HolleyCamacho At least there’s a song
A big part of me feels like there’s literally no conceivable way a cisgender heterosexual man wrote this film. I don’t have any proof, but I’m preeeeeeetty sure a gay man wrote this.
I think it probably applies more to the musical where they have some jokes that are kinda "Haha Kurt and Ram act kinda gay sometimes isn't that weird?"
The story behind Winona Ryder's involvement in Heathers is really interesting. Her agent told her she's never work again for starring in a film like this, and she initially got rejected from the role cause she wasn't "pretty enough". Also I remember in an interview, she mentioned that she knew a bullied goth girl who ended her life and it made her really upset that the people bullying her were only nice to her after her death and that this was why the movie meant so much to her.
“I’ve always held the original script of Heathers among the great literature that I’ve ever read. For me, it’s like, Ezra Pound, Philip Roth, Saul Bellow, and Daniel Waters, you know?”
The way Christian Slater truly was the poster boy for all the toxic and traumatised boys I loved as a teen
Love Heathers without that we dont get Clueless and without Clueless we dont get Mean Girls its a perfect trilogy of how highschool actually sucks for girls
and jawbreaker!
@@majawojo Yep and Jennifer's Body!
Clueless was based on a Jane Austen novel, so now I’m thinking about a slightly toned down regency version of Mean Girls/Heathers
@@eliza6971 This is genius and I love it
@@eliza6971 holy shit this would be so cool as a tv show. Kind of like the same tongue in cheek comedy from Scream Queens, but with huge hoop skirts and giant George Washington wigs
While Daniel Waters isn't related to John Waters, his brother Mark Waters directed "Mean Girls." It's all connected!
wow mind blown
😮 that's why they're literally the same movie! I mean, without the murder 😅
I can just imagine neighbors being concerned about you yellin', "Bitch what do we do to turn the bomb off?!"
LOL
@@MoreButter I am currently staying in a different town for work. I was listening to this video in a 7th floor room. The walls are thin, and the phone was turned up for me to hear it. I wonder if the people on either side of my room heard you scream "Bitch what do we do to turn the bomb off?!" If the police show up I'll know, I guess.
“…and campy people love chaos”
Sis. Why did you come for me 💀
lol
I agree that Heathers is good because it goes 100%. It is not just dipping its toes in dark comedy.
Agree! IMO the edgy jokes in Heathers have aged better than Glee or even Mean Girls, because it never pretends to be wholesome.
Highly influential cult classic. I genuinely think it’s one of the handful of best movies from the 80s. And it still comes off hilarious, dark, subversive, odd, entertaining, relevant and just very much its own thing. I also don’t really see it as “homophobic”. The handful of gay jokes are about making fun of gay panic and toxic masculinity. Finally, who the hell compared Heathers to Dear Evan Hansen? Even if they meant the musical version of Heathers (which is arguably more dumb-downed and basic than this movie), it’s still quite a stretch.
John always coming with the comments, thanks for tuning in always!
@@MoreButter I am a Kennie fan.
That might have been a reference or stemmed from Jenny Nicholson because she compared how Heathers used dark humor (particularly their song My Dead Gay Son) in their musical to Dear Even Hansen in her review of the movie.
@@saipandevo she's really not the first to do it, and I do think the comparison can be made pretty easily, it's just only comparable if you leave out a ton of context and keep the details vague
@@_gremlinboy also these comparisons are often times made to point out how Heathers did a better job at it... because they did it for the biggest part in a different, more fitting, way
who the heck compared this to Dear Evan??? that is a slap in the face to Heathers! :P this was a good time for Winona Ryder, with her having been in Beetlejuice a year earlier :P
Yeah, that's why I'm surprised it didn't do well at the box office. Everyone seems to generally like it, so I wonder if it was up against a big movie when it released. That's all it really takes sometimes for a movie or tv show to underperform, probably moreso before early streaming became a thing.
@@NickaLah I think it was a mix of the content being genuinely shocking for the time and marketing that made it seem like a teen rom com, which it is not.
@@tinymxnticore It was heavily mistaken as glorifying suicide due to the trailer. The actors had to do damage control before it even came out because people assumed shit without thinking.
I think it was Jenny Nicholson who did the comparison between the two musicals - both being about teen suicide and how society treats it. *But* importantly she compared "sincerely me" as being tonely incompatible with DEH's storyline, because it was more of a dark comedy number, while the entire DEH movie/musical was aimed to be more of a drama piece.. while Heathers (musical in that case) was entirely a dark comedy
@@NickaLah i remember people saying the poster made it seem like it was a romantic movie and when people went to watch it, they were thrown off by everything.
I would pay for her to watch the musical lol
FEEL BETTER KENNIE!!!
how much we talkin'
@@MoreButter i have 32 cents 🥺
@@MoreButter MY ENTIRE LIFE SAVINGS
If we all put in like a quarter she has to say yes!
@@MoreButter how much u want lol I got some blood left to sell 🤑
In the same vein as Heather's and Mean Girls lies another teen movie with dark themes: Jawbreaker starring Rose Mcgowen, if you haven't seen it I highly recommend checking it out
this!
Yup, Jawbreaker seemed to be inspired by Heathers, love that movie.
Jawbreaker is even more overtly influenced by Heathers than Mean Girls. However, I don’t think it’s as good as either.
I love this movie too!
I freaking love Jawbreakers !!! I was obsessed with that movie and the soundtrack !! when I was in highschool.
Gotta say, a few years ago Candy Store (the Heathers' song in the musical) was basically part of my personality. I still remember the trauma when Riverdale attempted to perform it...
Please dont remind me that I watched that episode 😩
@@ayannabranchcomb7535 that episode was diabolical
doorknob
That's what happens when you have non musical theatre singers try and sing musical theatre.... like could you not give them stuff in their actual wheelhouse??
I want you to watch "but I'm a cheerleader"! LGBT cult classic, really fun satire :) but tanked at the box office and was criticized for "being unable to convince homophobes to be progay" which... I'll let you unpack that if you get to it
Idk if you've seen it already but she covered it on her channel!
@@hibiscuspetals02 yes I did thank u
I love Heathers, it's one of my favorite movies. Even though there were dated things (like homophobia, body shaming, etc), those things were generally true to the time and the movie doesn't really celebrate the characters that engage in those behaviors. It was a really edgy and subversive film, even by today's standards. Also, some of the snarky one liners were truly hilarious.
so many snarky one liners!!
I really enjoyed Heathers. It just has everything I enjoy in a movie which is dark humor. Also I really like the main girl, totally my type
great film!
i love my dead gay son 😭
i don’t know that i’d say i love this movie. but it’s entertaining enough that i’ve watched it a couple times. pretty iconic.
It’s one of the few times I think a musical adaptation actually streamlined a movie to be more coherent- which is hilarious given how dark Heathers is.
But yeah, the criticism of how media glamorizes mental health problems and how teenage problems get used as vehicles to push unrelated agendas in media- I think was very sophisticated for its time.
I've never seen this so I was a little confused at first when she said this was a "black comedy" lmao I was like...are there even black people in this movie??
Lmao I was confused at first too 🤣🤣🤣
@@queencleopatra007 I thought maybe I was picturing the wrong movie 💀
@@wigglemelon8807 there’s literally one black character in the movie, he’s the editor of the school paper and he’s a little *too* excited about the suicide epidemic. “Westerburg finally got one of these things and I’m not gonna blow it!”
a young mr. mosby from suite life of zack and cody is the only black character in the movie😭
@@irixaee wait is it legit the same guy or are you making a joke right now bc omg???
“He was giving school sh**** vibes” I’m sorry I died he absolutely does 💀
HEATHERS. My favorite movie. Of all time.
There is so much I could say about why I love it. But the short version is this:
What starts off as a proto-MEAN GIRLS teen comedy turns into a story about toxic friendships & relationships by way of Faust.
The element of suicide being glorified by the community I think wound up becoming prophetic of shows like 13 REASONS WHY.
And by all means check out the musical. It hits just about all the major plot beats & retains all the main themes that are still relevant.
“Born with the need to hate Ohio” 😂😂
lol
As an Ohioan I'm like "yeah thats fair"
This movie really is a classic, it has influenced so many movies and shows that followed in so many ways. The musical is fine, but Kennie, I’m much more interested to have you watch the tv show. It was a “reboot” that came out a couple of years ago on Paramount, 10 episodes to they pulled the final episode from airing in America. The tv show is very much panned, definitely another case of writers not understanding gen z kids and getting dialogue and material from Twitter threads, but I do think there are some interesting things about it that had potential. Specifically the finale, which was actually the original ending of the movie before they changed it. 9 of the episodes are on Amazon if you’re interested! It would definitely get a guilty verdict but I’d enjoy hearing how you judge it.
have to check this out, thanks Richard!
It is def ahead of its time with how it truly subverded the topic of mental health, school students clicques, and school shooting that are still prevalent in teen drama series like 13 Reasons Why.
Heathers is one of my favorite movies just for how quotable and dark it is, but 100% would not be made today. Plus, Wynona Ryder apparently fought really hard for that role due to having a similar experience when a student at her school passed away and how the student body reacted.
The musical is pretty good, though they do have a version called illegal Heathers which is truly a feast for the eyes and ears. Completely different from Dear Evan Hansen.
BEGGING you to watch the musical sometime, the songs are SO good and it's so funny. Highly recommend (and you can find it on UA-cam, wink wink.) Hope you feel better soon!
adding to the list!
“Lick it up bitch, lick it up!” I watched this movie every other day on VHS when I was a teenager, absolutely loved it 😊 side note the allergies in Michigan is going to be crazy this season, mines has me feeling like my face is about to explode.
The musical is absolutely FIRE. Your friend is right, Kennie! I had the pleasure of being involved in a production of it at my university, and while at times it was a bit of a clusterf*ck (as school productions are wont to be), it was a chaotic and fun experience. And the musical numbers are as incredibly fun to sing as they are to listen to (imo).
musical is just on our list now...
Allergies can't stop Judge Kennie! 😂
NOTHING can stop our Judge
I love this movie and own it. Heather's has so many quotable moments and does one of the best jobs of showing a heated romance that is undoubtedly toxic and truly fucked up. Dark camp perfection.
The 80s had heathers, 90s had jawbreaker and the 00's had mean girls. I LOVE them all!!
My queen of a best friend showed me this movie during the pandemic and we had a drinking game for it as well almost fucking put me in the hospital (you had to take a shot every time they said Heather) but we fucking love this movie and he ended up doing a drag show portraying as Veronica and JD. This movie is iconic and I refuse to believe otherwise 😂
If it was more than in this video y’all were trying to die 🤣🤣
that is a tough task Lynette!
Yeah after the first 15 minutes I was like “yeah I can’t do this”
This movie is great and it really is hilarious. O laughed so much with the whole mineral water thing when they staged the two jocks together. Like, just having a bottle of water was enough to declare them gay and me, as a gay, was just dead.
Heathers the musical is one of the only musical adaptations that I feel like improve the story by making slight tweaks, but ultimately staying true to the source material.
I love Heathers! I was introduced to it through the musical which I got obseeeessed w/ and just wanted more of. I loved the movie because it was so out of pocket and also focused less on romance and more about how fucked up their relationship was. the musical is fun tho I love the songs and I still listen to them today!! It's a fun lil fucked up story!!
everyone talking about the musical, we gotta do it.
I actually do see this movie’s school shooter archetype is done really well compared to today. Like The Joker, which I enjoyed although not my favorite, it completely takes seriously this tortured misunderstood and disrespected man becoming an agent of chaos and it looks desirable. That’s certainly not the goal of the filmmakers but it is very easy for people to ignore that and watching people dance down the stairs was fun for like a day. I think the fact that Heathers centers Veronica a person who hypothetically wants to see all the bad people taken down wishing for Heather’s death and then we follow her reckoning with the results of that strategy. While J.D. escalates she pulls us back. Veronica doesn’t give in to fatalism or delusions of grandeur, instead she realizes terrorizing a handful of people in nowhere Sherwood, Ohio isn’t going to fix anything in society. It’s dangerous and stupid to believe otherwise. Her ending lighting a cigarette in J.D.’s ashes and finding a new prom date shows the clear contrast where you know Veronica’s gonna have a relatively happy life after this while J.D. has nothing. He’s immediately forgotten. Idk if it’s true that school shooters want fame but they certainly don’t see the value in others. She has nothing against Martha, but nothing for her either at the beginning. Apathy, but in the end she cares a lot. Society is an abstract but the people around you are real. Not a solution to mental health problems but suicide is not the only option and being reminded of that can be life saving.
One of your online aunties here.. Heather's is my favorite teen movie. I remember the suicide theme was controversial but I don't remember the film as a box office bomb since it did so well on VHS.
Christian Slater starred in several box office flops turned cult classics (FTCC?). Legend of Billie Jean (teen rebellion FTCC), Gleaming the Cube (skater FTCC), Heathers (he beat out Brad Pitt for this role and started Slater’s Jack Nicholson emoting which would permeate his acting career), Pump Up the Volume (anarchist proto-hacker tropes echoed in movies like Hackers -- another iconic FTCC). Then in the 90s he starred in a string of blockbusters, Robin Hood: Prince of Thieves, Interview with a Vampire, and Woo's Broken Arrow which elevated him to the A-List for most of the decade. Slater stayed working in the 90s: Bed of Roses, Kuffs, Tarantino’s True Romance, Untamed Heart but I'm not going to IMDb the rest.
BTW - A little nostalgia hit: Slater voiced Pips in FernGully alongside Robin Williams pre-Disney.
I was born a few years before this film came out so I was about 4 when it dropped. It was a formative part of my childhood. My mom was a very young adult in the time it arrived so I watched it with her and i've been gobbling up dark comedy ever since.
I always noticed the similarities between more contemporary work and Heathers. Jawbreaker, Ginger Snap, Jennifer's Body, Mean Girls...hell even Clueless. It's a foundtional film and it always makes me chuckle.
I watched Heathers with an exchange student during hookup. Except he was a Vietnamese exchange student so he was so confused about how American highschools work a bit and he was more amusing than the movie (on purpose he was funny as hell). Needless to say we were kinda checked out the first thirty minutes in.
Please, please, please do Jawbreakers next! It is another black teen comedy, similar to Heathers. It is criminally unknown and underrated. It is one of my favorite movies.
on the list!
@@MoreButter Yay! Thank you so much!
I always found it funny that Mr Mosby from Suit Life is a student in Heathers
HAHA unreal catch Emily
He's in a bit role I think on either the school paper editor or working with Winona but he's a speaking role and it's on point to see him being big Gary Cole Office Space energy with his glasses. I know too much random movie or music energy to not comment. I apologize for the dork in me.
It's so funny you watched this because another creator I watch, Zzavid; also watched this for the first time last week. Lived his reaction and can't wait to see what you have to say about it
Same
I love Zzavid
Oh wow. This came out when I was 14, so I was exactly in the 'too young to watch it but we know you are going to watch it' target demographic. We LOVED this movie in 1989. But that was pre 9/11, pre school violent mass events, pre so many, many things. It WAS in the middle of a teen unaliving themselves 'epidemic' in the country, and it was right when 90s darkness was starting to overtake 80s brightness. So... it definitely hits differently now. It's a weird flashback to watch it and remember the totally different context we watched it in.
I went through an 80s phase and this movie came up on my radar
what did you think?
In eighth grade my favorite teacher told me to watch this movie and its been one of my favorite ever since. The wardrobe, the humor, the characters!!
how many times have we seen it Vic??
@@MoreButter probably 10! I watch it at least once a year 🫣
Kennie: Jarritos comes in a glass bottle
My stupid brain: A LITTLE GLASS BOTTLE?? (Repo!)
this video was great thank you Kenniiie
I discovered Heathers through the musical when it was first released and it fueled my theater kid heart throughout high school. I think Heathers works better for the stage because it plays up the camp and with works better.
🎶 Teenage S**ide, Don't Do It!!🎶 That song also lives rent free in my head!! I watched this movie too much in my teens! 🤣
I feel like the main thing to differentiate between harmful and not harmful representations of serious subjects is whether they show it for what it is, or they try to glamorize and romanticise it and make it appealing. I haven't seen the movie, but I've seen the musical, and from what I've heard everything's pretty similar, just the added songs and execution are different. And I can at least say from your words and the musical, that Heather's not only shows how fucked up these actions are despite having jokes, but that also romantising fucked up acts is fucked up. It kinda gets a little bit meta and I like it. For example, in the boiler room where JD is giving his monolouge about why he's bombing the school, in the musical, Veronica tries to convince him not to go through with it even though the school students are admittedly trash and Veronica has suffered the same if not more bullying than JD from them, and when she realizes she can't convince him, she physically tries to stop him. She doesn't side with JD and in essence, the audience and the writers don't side with JD on this. It's fucked up regardless. And no amount of villain monolouge is gonna change that. For any one that likes Romeo and Juliet out there, I'm sorry, but I can't stand it. You can see it as a great play, and I won't rag on you too much cause it is seen as a classic, but I personally find it a drag with unlikable characters except Paris oddly enough and Juliets caretaker, and I hate the ending and all the stupid concidences and plot conveniences it took to get there. One of my main gripes with the ending is all the romanticising about them killing themselves. That even though their families are saddened by their losses they can hold on to the hope that are together forever in the afterlife, and I hate it. Killing yourself is never the answer and should not be portrayed as the ultimate answer to your problems. Of course, it was written in a way different time and medical help was nonexistent, but that doesn't mean I have to like it. That and the stupid love triangle always irks me cause I just see Romeo as a whiny brat and they don't really show Paris as a bad potential partner, Juliets just not interested. I greatly prefer later adaptation like Warm Bodies, or funnily enough, Lion King 2, where instead, they find a compromise between the 2 warring sides and are able to coexist and work together and the two main characters don't end up dying for stupid reasons.
Even if you don't end up watching the Heathers musical, I highly recommend listening to a few tracks because honestly that music hits WAY harder than it has any right to
I really really reallllly hope she talkes about the musical. I know she isn’t a fan of them but I really feel like the music adds so much to the humor and tone of the film. Plus come on “I love my dead gay son” “you make my balls so blue” “tonight out school is Vietnam let’s guarantee they never see their senior prom” too freaking funny
I recommended this movie to a friend once and told him it's best to go into it not knowing anything about the plot and characters and as soon as he finished watching it he was like "what the hell did you just make me watch". Now we listen to the musical together (which is amazing btw). This is one of my all time favorite movies. It's dark and unhinged but also campy and in a way quite fun. Despite how tongue and cheek it is, it's moral still holds weight and is still relevant today.
i think the heathers musical does such a great job of giving veronica an actual story and to why the heaters accepted her into their little group
The musical changes Veronica too much in my opinion. In the movie she she purposely joins the Heathers and isn’t really a nice person, which Heather Chandler calls out at the beginning when Veronica acts like she’s too good to play cruel pranks. While the play makes her out to be more like Cady from Mean Girls being swept up in the crazy world of popularity.
If you love dark comedies Jawbreaker is an excellent movie. It's extremely campy based in a high school. It includes funny death, jokes, and satisfying revenge.
second person to comment, taking note!!
I am a huge fan of the musical, have the whole thing memorized for years now, and honestly I really love the movie as well. As a non-American gen-z'er, the topics discussed in the film never really resonated with me (I'm not a huge consumer of 80's teen movies either) but I still enjoyed the dark humor aspect. Not to mention, Winona Ryder and Christian Slater's (and all the Heathers) performances and outfits were really good. Gotta rewatch it sometime!
i first watched heathers in high school and LOVED it, watched it so many times. it's camp, it's dark, it has winona ryder, so we win.
This is one of the few black comedies I like simply because it had no fear about cutting to the bone without being edgy for the sake of being edgy.
This was my absolute favorite movie when I watched it in high school. I was obsessed with the costuming and camera work (and honestly I still am. They were basically trying to do low-budget Kubrick and the result is fascinating) but you’re right that the movie gets harder to watch every year. It was unfortunately prophetic to some extent and I’ve seen that turn a lot of people off the film the last few years.
And as regards to homophobia, I’m seeing some people in the comments say that the film wasn’t homophobic and was instead a critique of homophobic culture. And while I agree with that, the way it went about saying homophobia was bad was by making homophobic jokes. Like, they’re said by the antagonists (Kurt, Ram, sometimes JD) and framed in the same way that Duke’s comments about Martha are framed, but they’re still just homophobic jokes that characters almost never disagree with. Though I still think the back and forth of “I love my dead gay son” and “I wonder what he would have thought about a limp wrist with a pulse” was the most succinct tear down of homophobic-but-acts-supportive-when-convenient-for-them parents that I watched all throughout high school. Love that line.
(I am now restraining myself from talking about how poorly the musical adapted that scene and also every other scene because the musical was such garbage I wish I could tear it apart with my teeth and smash every single instrument oh g-d I cannot believe they missed the mark that bad)
As a nurse I was so happy u uploaded but it took everything in me not to jump through the screen as a auntie nurse to get u a nice spicy noodle Mongolian hotpot soup and a cold compress and ask u to to lie on the sofa with a blanket thank u for uploading kennie and please feel better and enjoy ur nap a beautiful distraction from my never ending but eventful shift 💛
best advice, thank you!
i love the heathers, it def is fucked up tho. which is what i love about it. i watched it the first time not knowing the plot, just that it's a movie people mention sometimes and i was curious. so the adventure of regular teen movie escalating to what it does was very entertaining, esp with the mean girl vibes like you said.
Hope you feel better soon, sis! Stay hydrated 🙏
we have purchased claritin for Kennie, thank you Sophia!
You’re going to catch yourself singing ‘dead girl walking’ at least once after watching the musical.
I’d
In elementary school and Jr High this was one of my favorite movies. (I’m a gen x for age reference). I had the movie on VHS and everytime I went to a friends house I would bring it with me and make them watch it. It was unanimously loved.
The part where Veronica shoots off JD’s finger when he flips her the bird was always good for laughs.
Good times. Thanks for the nostalgia. 😎
Also, additional TW for eating disorders.
OMGods yes!!!! I used to carry Heathers and Shag (Bridget Fonda, and Annabeth Gish) to every slumber party. I was in the 6th grade in ‘89. I can’t lie Heathers was one of the movies that prepared me for high school 😂😂😂
Have you ever seen Saved! (2004) with Mandy Moore and Jena Malone?? It's basically Mean Girls in Christian school. It's dark but hilarious with some pretty interesting messages
As someone in my 40’s, I grew up with this movie and 💕💕💕💕 it still
still **chefs kiss** Sarah?
@@MoreButter in the world of heathers, aspire to be a Veronica 🧛♀️
the one that we finally got to watch [secretly] as preteens, got me and my friends saying "what's your damage?!" alllll the time in school
Christian Slater has said he was channeling Jack Nicholson from The Shining. Knowing that makes the unhinged performance a bit more interesting and unsettling 😳
This was a formative movie for me. Oddly, it taught me who the Heathers were and how you want to be a Veronica. Like-- the morals are pretty solid despite it being wrapped up in dark satire.
Kennie I'm begging you I need the video on the musical. As much as I love the movie, the musical will always triumph in my heart because holy shit its, as your friend said, disturbing but hilarious. The tone is a bit different from the movie, and it has some absolutely bops.
Yes. Yes. Yes.
First, I'm also suffering from seasonal allergies😭😭 I could not breathe through my nostrils for the last 4 days.
Second, bc of ZZAVID I finally got myself to watch Heathers! And oh, oh, it hurt. But it hurt in almost a masochist, " bitch really??!! "
But.
I.
Love.
It!
24 years old and I've finally seen it!!!
But also, Winona Ryder... I simp. Simp so effing hard.
I really love Heathers. It's up there with Mean Girls as one of my fave movies.
Would love to hear a defense for Jennifer's Body! That one only tanked because the marketing was done poorly. I bet if it came out in like 2019, it would be way more popular.
Oh yeah, you're gonna LOVE the musical lol. It's my preferred version honestly. I really hope you make a video on it
when i was in high school and my mental health was In The Pits, sometimes when i was considering That my brain would go "teenage suicide ~ don't do it" and at least that made me laugh
I love hesthers! I didn't even know it was badly received by critics until this video. This movie little shop of horrors and Parents are my favorite kind if movies. Weird, campy, offbeat and fun. But I have also been told that I have a very dark sense of humor.
Girl the musical is amazing!!! I hope you get around to watching it soon.
Heathers walked so Mean Girls could run!
THIS!!!
I saw Heathers for the first time when I was a young teenager. Thirty something years later and I still love it. I thought Christian Slater was so fine. Such an amazingly bad yet awesome movie.
oooh, we are doing both heathers? YAAAAAAAAAAAAAAASSSSSSSSSSS. grew up on THIS heathers, so good! as is all 90s and all winona in the 90s. sigh MY YOUTH!
The funeral of the football players! What the dad says lives in my head rent free!! 🤣🤣😭 "I LOVE MY D3AD GAY SON!!!"
omg Kennie was sponsored by Jarritos?? Goated
I've never seen the movie, nor did I realize that it came before the musical, but I absolutely LOVE the musical. I think it's hilarious, out of pocket, but in the best way, and the songs are boys. I honestly can't imaging watching the movie without the music, but I'll give it a try.
let us know how it goes!
oh you need to watch jawbreaker, it's insanely good. and it's inspired by heathers
recurring comment alert!
Jawbreaker is fine, but it isn't as smart as Heathers or Mean Girls. Good visuals and soundtrack though.
“I LOVE MY GAY SON!!” Heathers is one of the most epically quotable movies..
EXCUSE ME how did I JUST find out about this channel?! I fkn SUBBED faster than Anastasia Steele boiiiii
that was the perfect summary of the bomb scene thank you omg
you are welcome!
As someone who was a teenager when this came out, Winona at the end I totally relate to and have had a forever crush on Winona ever since. She's awkward and doesn't care I love her.
Even if you don't watch the musical, listen to the song "Candy Store" from it. Shit SLAPS.
banger alert.
One of my fave movies!!
Edit: Movie suggestion - Rivers Edge. 80s thriller movie about friends detemining whether to turn in their friend after he murders his girlfriend. It is on Pluto tv on demand right now.
Edit: I found out the movie is based on a true story.
Ah yes, JD, my psycho teenage crush number 143.
Kennie I feel you on your automatic hate of Ohio! I'm from Detroit and now live on the west coast and I was in the grocery store and I saw somebody wearing an Ohio State shirt and I was like "Boo" And he was like you're from Michigan and I'm like yup. We had a little giggle and made fun of how people here can't stand the cold (ie 60 degrees or lower) and kept it moving.
so every one has allergies rn like nobody catching a break
zero of us.
HI BIG SIS KENNIE!
HEY Derrin!
Long live Judge Kennie forever may she preside
I watched Heathers for the first time, 2 months ago.
and??