RailwayCityRails I completely disagree. I have always thought it as dated as the chair that Allen Fleming is sitting in (7:39), as if CN is stuck in the 60’s.
@@Boypogikami132 you are probably right. The average person cares as much about the image of freight railways as they do about the image of their sewer system. They both just transport sh**.
I have worked for CN Rail for 35 years. I'm now retired. However when CN was privatized to stock holders, and Americans bought the controlling shares. I remember being told by our management that we could no longer refer to the company as Canadian National. It would only be known as CN from that point forward. Wow, EH?
Second best North American railroad paint scheme, trailing only the Santa Fe Warbonnet, which is in a class by itself. CN’s was simple, dazzling, modern, and timeless. Bravo!
Funny, back before I knew anything about CN, when I first saw the logo on locomotive in the early years of youtube. I actually thought said logo was made the early 2000s or the late 90s. Kinda proves that the design is pretty timeless.
I'm proudly born, raised, and gown-up, within the territory Inter-Colonial Ry, specifically the line across Cape Breton Island from the rural community of Point Tupper at the Straits of Canso on the west coast in Richmond County to the colonial garrison town and later City of Sydney on the east coast in Cape Breton County in which was completed in 1890 and later became a part of C.N.R. in 1919 with the rest of the I.C.R. and the line connected to the Canso Cosway in Port Hawkesbury in Inverness County in 1955 but later CN rail SOLD OUR MAIN LINE FROM TRURO (on the mainland) TO SYDNEY TO AN AMERICAN COMPANY IN 1993 so therefor we became the Cape Breton and Central Nova Scotia Ry, in 1993 and from there was our mainline's downfall in both lack of operation with there not being too many trains and also lack of right of way maintains......
I used to work at the sailing center where the Grand Trunk Yard in Portland once was. We used the Portland Company’s now razed building #7 as a storage & shop space. The large building in the photo at 0:59, and the smaller one immediately to its right still stand today and now house the Maine Narrow Gauge Railroad. The swing bridge also still stands, however it is no longer in use and is permanently open to allow boats to pass. The former yard has been developed and the track running down Commercial Street has long since been paved over, making street runners a thing of the past. Rigby yard in South Portland now serves as the major rail freight terminal for the area. Another interesting thing about this is that immediately to the right of the photo stood grain and cargo docks with tracks running on to them. These caught fire sometime in the 60’s or 70’s and burned to the pilings, which can still be seen today from the Amethyst lot at the end of Commercial street.
A better choice for the two flags at 08:20 in the video would be a fleur-de-lys based one like the Quebec provincial flag, French-speaking Canadians identify more with that symbolism than the national flag of France. France has not ruled that part of Canada since 1763. So 257 years ago.
Awesome video, pretty well put together coming from a current college graphic design major. I thought Akzidenz-Grotesk was the very first sans-serif typeface introduced in 1898 unless those were custom sans serif typefaces for them back then
10/10 would make new logo again. Could we eventually get a video on the short lived but influential Wisconsin Central? Could provide a nice video on a true railroad success story
Fleming’s noodle/worm has aged very well, I grew up next to the GTW in Michigan and my earliest railroad memories are of GTW/CN in Fleming influenced paint.
5:50 That steam train can be scene in person in Windsor,Ontario,Canada - you get a glimpse into the past and still there to this day by the waterfront overlooking Detroit.
awesome video, always a big fan of Canadian history. Just to correct you on one thing, however: the CN Noodle logo has always been part of a Red, Black and Grey scheme on the locomotives, cabooses and passenger cars, and white on freight cars. It is a common mistake, but one that is worth addressing, as the grey colour can be easily mistaken for white in certain lights. The grey has been retained from the earliest Sargent stripes, to the most modern website scheme.
wow, interesting stuff. I knew the CN logo was from the 60s, as the "CN tower" in my city's downtown region, built in that era, has a giant, neon version of the logo (or did? I'm not sure if it's still there-- I'm fairly certain CN no longer owns the building: doesn't matter) but I hadn't ever really thought about what the logo had been before then. I particularly liked the fun editing throughout, keeps the pace up. Great work
The use of red in the early logos (1873 & 1899) might've been for more plainly practical reasons rather than design. Red and, to a lesser extent, blue were the most ubiquitous/widely available colors of ink that could be used in basic lithography. So, it would've made sense to use one of those two colors for a logo which had to be slapped onto just about everything.
Probably less expensive than less available colors, too. Graphic/industrial design was often dependent on the properties of materials. Why were all Model Ts black? With paint technology of the time it was the color that dried fastest and so didn't slow production lines.
I know this channel is mosty for American/Canadian train stuff, but I hope you also make one about the DB logo from German Train or SNCF from French Train.
The typographic firm Cooper & Beatty, at which Fleming was a designer and director when he created the CN logo, was co-founded by my great-grandfather. Fleming's work helped make it an award-winning company in its day.
I remembered that at this time, a lot of CN employees thougt that it took a so lot of money and time from engeneering to create such a logo finally. They thougth it's been a primary school affair.
A lot older than that... pretty sure it was part of the original 2008 sound library, I definitely heard it enough in 2009 to confirm first hand it was around well over 10 years ago.
We spent so much money making the rails. Then we spent money ripping them up. Now we realize how useful trains would be, but cannot put tracks down again because it is too expensive.
It was and is often referred to as "the noodle". The wet part is kinda implied. Like many things that are changed, the new logo wasn't all that popular.
@@vermilionrailfan5651 Not so easily done with DWP, which adopted large italicized letters. In the backstroke under the P is the slogan "Deliver(ed) With Pride", perhaps not to be outdone by GTW's "Good Track" Road.
Sweet video. CN’s noodle even still feels modern today, even after 60 years.
RailwayCityRails I completely disagree. I have always thought it as dated as the chair that Allen Fleming is sitting in (7:39), as if CN is stuck in the 60’s.
Roger Horner so nobody cares
i painted a rock with the 'wet noodle' logo
@@roger1818 no one cares >:)
@@Boypogikami132 you are probably right. The average person cares as much about the image of freight railways as they do about the image of their sewer system. They both just transport sh**.
Alan Flemmings Great CN "Noodle" logo is one of the most admired and recognized Logo's world-wide. It is still EPIC!
I work for cn for35 years
@@simonpoon3785 I worked for CP nice to meet you brother!
I have a cn locomotive on my n scale layout lol
@@richharris9489 I'm starting in N scale,the layout isn't built and I have already three CN locomotives!!! :)
I love playing still
I am amazed at how awesome this channel has become! I love this style of production. -Drayton
First
You did it. You managed to somehow fit the Beatles into a video about Canadian National in a way that makes sense. I respect that, I really do.
I have worked for CN Rail for 35 years. I'm now retired. However when CN was privatized to stock holders, and Americans bought the controlling shares. I remember being told by our management that we could no longer refer to the company as Canadian National. It would only be known as CN from that point forward. Wow, EH?
Same thing happened to British Petrolium. It's just BP now. They're just letters now, not initials. The B and P stand for nothing.
Except in legal documents that required the company's full legal name.
@@smwca123 At least in BP's case they changed the legal name of the company. It's BP plc. now.
Second best North American railroad paint scheme, trailing only the Santa Fe Warbonnet, which is in a class by itself.
CN’s was simple, dazzling, modern, and timeless. Bravo!
Union Pacific : History Of A Design.
we call UP "Piss Yellow" around these parts
BNSF diarrhea orange and green
@@braysfinds7479 CN period blood red
Csx: urinal ice blue
Penn central: bankruptcy black
And now that look is iconic and is seen moving past my northeastern Illinois high school every day. Thank you Matteson sub for existing.
OOOOOH CANADAAAA! btw, a great follow-up to this would be CPR. Cool Top Gear and TF2 references btw
I see someone likes Team Fortress 2.
And Gmod
@@Mr.RailYard-LJLRailYard "gmod"
@@adamb2537 Who doesn't? Wait, I know...Hammond and May.
More graphic design history please! Logos and liveries have always been the best part of railfanning
I like thing like this I wish you would make a series talking about stuff like this and reviewing the history of railroads
Funny, back before I knew anything about CN, when I first saw the logo on locomotive in the early years of youtube. I actually thought said logo was made the early 2000s or the late 90s. Kinda proves that the design is pretty timeless.
I am calling it - 2020-2021, the Maple Leaf and or Tilted Wafer logos are coming back, I'll eat my shoe if they don't...
Great video by the way!
A CN heritage unit? Now that I would pay to see!
Good thing I didn't give you mine, they're a size 14 xD
OH CRAP LOL
Well, you're in luck - CN heritage units in the form of yard units, and the Maple Leaf was applied to the slug!
Tik tok tik tok 1 year left..
I'm proudly born, raised, and gown-up, within the territory Inter-Colonial Ry, specifically the line across Cape Breton Island from the rural community of Point Tupper at the Straits of Canso on the west coast in Richmond County to the colonial garrison town and later City of Sydney on the east coast in Cape Breton County in which was completed in 1890 and later became a part of C.N.R. in 1919 with the rest of the I.C.R. and the line connected to the Canso Cosway in Port Hawkesbury in Inverness County in 1955 but later CN rail SOLD OUR MAIN LINE FROM TRURO (on the mainland) TO SYDNEY TO AN AMERICAN COMPANY IN 1993 so therefor we became the Cape Breton and Central Nova Scotia Ry, in 1993 and from there was our mainline's downfall in both lack of operation with there not being too many trains and also lack of right of way maintains......
The editing is so good, amazing work
Penn Central: History of a Design *FLAW*
Excellent. Thanks for taking the time to produce this fine video.
Gotta say, very interesting, well put together and informative video!!
My Dad was a CNR employee back when the new logo came out, he and others referred to this logo as "The Lazy Snake".
Chicago & Northwestern : History of a design
1-2 minutes ago history was made
Wet noodle
Bruh
I used to work at the sailing center where the Grand Trunk Yard in Portland once was. We used the Portland Company’s now razed building #7 as a storage & shop space. The large building in the photo at 0:59, and the smaller one immediately to its right still stand today and now house the Maine Narrow Gauge Railroad. The swing bridge also still stands, however it is no longer in use and is permanently open to allow boats to pass. The former yard has been developed and the track running down Commercial Street has long since been paved over, making street runners a thing of the past. Rigby yard in South Portland now serves as the major rail freight terminal for the area. Another interesting thing about this is that immediately to the right of the photo stood grain and cargo docks with tracks running on to them. These caught fire sometime in the 60’s or 70’s and burned to the pilings, which can still be seen today from the Amethyst lot at the end of Commercial street.
@6:52 that voice crack when he says familiar is gold.
A better choice for the two flags at 08:20 in the video would be a fleur-de-lys based one like the Quebec provincial flag, French-speaking Canadians identify more with that symbolism than the national flag of France. France has not ruled that part of Canada since 1763. So 257 years ago.
Thank-you, as a Canadian and having CN trains running in my neighbourhood, and being a rail fan myself, this was awesome, thank-you
Great video Jarred
Awesome video, pretty well put together coming from a current college graphic design major. I thought Akzidenz-Grotesk was the very first sans-serif typeface introduced in 1898 unless those were custom sans serif typefaces for them back then
10/10 would make new logo again. Could we eventually get a video on the short lived but influential Wisconsin Central? Could provide a nice video on a true railroad success story
Excellent research and presentation. Thank you
5:50 I like how you used 5588 in Windsor, ON.
Fleming’s noodle/worm has aged very well, I grew up next to the GTW in Michigan and my earliest railroad memories are of GTW/CN in Fleming influenced paint.
The fact that you have TF2 and “Heavy” featured automatically earns my sub. Bravo!
Great video, very interesting.
Great video.
Well done. Iconic logo that will be proudly represent the backbone of Canada’s and America’s economy from Prince Rupert to New Orleans to Halifax.
Yes! Another history video.
5:50 That steam train can be scene in person in Windsor,Ontario,Canada - you get a glimpse into the past and still there to this day by the waterfront overlooking Detroit.
awesome video, always a big fan of Canadian history. Just to correct you on one thing, however: the CN Noodle logo has always been part of a Red, Black and Grey scheme on the locomotives, cabooses and passenger cars, and white on freight cars. It is a common mistake, but one that is worth addressing, as the grey colour can be easily mistaken for white in certain lights. The grey has been retained from the earliest Sargent stripes, to the most modern website scheme.
Remember, we changed our flag from the SOB red Ensign to the Maple Leaf in 1965. CN changed the logo before that.
Nicely edited guy! Keep up the good work
Loved this video! Question: what are the song names that you used for the video?
As someone from Alberta thank you for covering the best railway
Amazing I love The Sound And I Love Design Of Canadian National
I'm a train and I approve this video!!!
I love this video still! Even if it takes time
Quality over Quantity
You think the Japan Railways Group somehow got inspiration from CN for their logo as the successor(s) of a national rail operator?
wow, interesting stuff. I knew the CN logo was from the 60s, as the "CN tower" in my city's downtown region, built in that era, has a giant, neon version of the logo (or did? I'm not sure if it's still there-- I'm fairly certain CN no longer owns the building: doesn't matter) but I hadn't ever really thought about what the logo had been before then. I particularly liked the fun editing throughout, keeps the pace up. Great work
The CN Tower was completed in 1976, 15 years later. Sort of the same era, but not really. (Or is there another CN Tower elsewhere?)
@@dixonpinfold2582 in edmonton there is
@@TMXMediaYT Ah, I see. Tks
5:33 Grand Trunk Railway System: Hi, Canadian National! Can I join you?
Canadian National: Sure, why not?
I love their logo & paint scheme today
We lost our railway in Newfoundland. Makes me sad.
I am from NL too, and LOVED the trains.
In Newfoundland CN branded itself Terra Transport - an allusion to Newfoundland's Latin name Terra Nova.
Great video. I love trains and history. I didn't know the grand trunk was Canadian.
Would you do Penn Central?
Learn something new every day, like how the G man worked in public relations for the CNR
He was right. The noodle has been around for 50+ years. I'm not Canadian but I still can immediately recognize that logo.
The use of red in the early logos (1873 & 1899) might've been for more plainly practical reasons rather than design. Red and, to a lesser extent, blue were the most ubiquitous/widely available colors of ink that could be used in basic lithography. So, it would've made sense to use one of those two colors for a logo which had to be slapped onto just about everything.
Probably less expensive than less available colors, too. Graphic/industrial design was often dependent on the properties of materials. Why were all Model Ts black? With paint technology of the time it was the color that dried fastest and so didn't slow production lines.
This is great. Would you ever do one about CP?
love the hl1 and tf2 sounds
Good video
Ur so serious but funny at the same time. It sounds nice. Kinda like the blend radio station but by another railfan
5:33 Grand Trunk Railway: Hi, Canadian National, can I join you?
Canadian National: Sure!
Neat video
Awsome!
This was exceptionally interesting. I'd love to see American RR logos looked into. 👍👍👍
I know this channel is mosty for American/Canadian train stuff, but I hope you also make one about the DB logo from German Train or SNCF from French Train.
Do you plan on doing one of the chessie system logo
I think if CN changed the noodle people would loose it! It’s iconic.
Canadian Northern logo reminds me of the Northern Pacific ... Colours are the same more or less. Great vid, thanks.
Nice video, you van find similar trends in europe, take the NS(Dutch railway) for example who completely removed lettering from the logo.
No. The Great Northern Railway logo looks AMAZING.
Can this become a series?
I still think that the black and white coaches at 9:36 are the cleanest best looking coaches ever seen in Canada, maybe North America. Simply perfect.
Check out the Australian National (AN) 'snail' logo
The typographic firm Cooper & Beatty, at which Fleming was a designer and director when he created the CN logo, was co-founded by my great-grandfather. Fleming's work helped make it an award-winning company in its day.
2:39 love the scene from top gear
2:37
*Speed and Power*
5:35 Odd Fact: That one of Canadian National's Rebuilt AC44C6Ms number 3309 had been given this CN Wafer Logo making it a Oddball Unit with CN.
Aaaand now I want to see these logo videos set to Neil Cicirega's "Redesign Your Logo" 😁
The UP be like "Wet noodle? Bruh have you met the NAME IN SHIELD"
Best logo ever designed
The logo was sometimes also called "The Lazy 3", since it looks like the number 3 lying on its side.
Also in 1960 CN Built its new HQ in downtown Montreal. Good time for a new logo.
Are you going to review Canadian Pacific?
CN is graphic design genius, if it stands the test of time.
Can you do a history video of Canadian National railway
What do you call the truth about the Canadian National Railroad from 0:00 to 11:24?
Can you do "The Milwaukee Road" in (X) Minutes?
you should do grand trunk. i wonder why the logo is similar to the GT logo on the mustang
I love in Canada and I've seen I think on f those grand trunk or one of the circle logos but most the time I see the wacky CN logo
CP had some cool logos . from the beaver to the pac-man on their boxcars and tankers and /or the cursive Canadian Pacific
Is Canadien National different from Canadian National?
so is this guy the train version of potential history?
I remembered that at this time, a lot of CN employees thougt that it took a so lot of money and time from engeneering to create such a logo finally. They thougth it's been a primary school affair.
3:51 the old nostalgic roblox jump noise you would find in like 2012 or 2013 or something
oh
oh my god
@@vermilionrailfan5651 I'm sorry.. uhh..... here is some distorted bass boosted Minecraft music!
@@blockvfive1196 No need, my friend. You took me back, back to a different time. That's all.
A lot older than that... pretty sure it was part of the original 2008 sound library, I definitely heard it enough in 2009 to confirm first hand it was around well over 10 years ago.
CN is really a good design to still be around after 60+ years!
Subbed with bell \m/
We spent so much money making the rails. Then we spent money ripping them up. Now we realize how useful trains would be, but cannot put tracks down again because it is too expensive.
what about VIA ,SP, UP, MKT, BNSf
What trains would I catch to go to California from Ontario Canada
3:52 I noticed quite a few old roblox sound library effects in this video, but this was the moment I knew it wasn't just random sounds you found.
Theres no way in hell its actually called "The wet noodle" lmao, but great video, definitely an interesting piece in railroad history, great video!
There is a way in hell that CN, GTW, and CV have wet noodels
It was and is often referred to as "the noodle". The wet part is kinda implied. Like many things that are changed, the new logo wasn't all that popular.
My first job was with CN in 1967. Nobody called it the noodle. It was referred to as the ‘Lazy 3’. Still is.
@@vermilionrailfan5651 Not so easily done with DWP, which adopted large italicized letters. In the backstroke under the P is the slogan "Deliver(ed) With Pride", perhaps not to be outdone by GTW's "Good Track" Road.