M3 iMac TOO GOOD TO BE TRUE!?
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The 2023 M3 iMac may be one of Apple's best looking computers but how does this $1300 machine fair against my $10,000 professional Mac setup, and how much power do you really need in the modern age of apple silicon?
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My M1 iMac with 16 gigs of memory still rocks and it's my daily driver for software development, content creation and daily tasks. I have no desire to upgrade at this time. I may feel differently when the M4 chip Macs are released. Nice video and thanks for sharing.
I have the same setup. I don't think I'll be upgrading the iMac for a long time. The M1 chip is still ridiculously good.
Ditto. I see no reason to upgrade from my M1iMac with 16GB either. Almost bought a studio display as a 2nd monitor, but then reasoned that its cheaper to buy another iMac... not the same as a 2nd monitor, but also get a complete computer by doing this at less cost than the studio display. Also still using my 2019 i7 27" iMac without issues.
Love my M3 iMac setup...I currently have it as my main desktop system, connected to a 27" Thunderbolt Display and a converted 27" 5k iMac display running through a DisplayLink adapter for a 3-screen system. Tons of screen real estate to run apps across, and the thing slices and dices through everything with zero effort. Don't envision needing anything more powerful for the foreseeable future.
I have a soft spot in my heart for the iMac. My head says get a Mac Mini and upgrade the monitor over time. My heart says a green iMac with lots of ram and storage would be perfect.
Me too! And also for the reason that buying a monitor of similar quality as the iMac (if I had gone the way of the M2Pro MacMini) would have been more expensive than buying an iMac! Mac monitors just kinda look better. :)
Hey as someone who know NOTHING about computers but is in the market of buying one for my home office space for me and the family, what do you guys recommend?? I’ve been going back n forth for about 10 days now and I want to make sure it’s something I don’t have to buy again for another 5-7 years, any help would be appreciated… and my budget is 2-3k. I just want to insure I make the right choice, these blue iMacs are beautiful in my blue office room lol but a Mac mini pro would allow me to add my own accessories right? However an Apple monitor takes a bunch of my budget and with an iMac the screen is included 😂🤣 so this is my situation, do I just say to heck with it and buy a non Apple monitor like an oled? Idk🤷🏻♂️
If your goals are to get a solid system that will last for 5-7 years and you have a higher budget (not needing to upgrade over time) the iMac M3 is a great choice. I would get 16 GB of ram and 512 GB of storage. If you have the budget then 1 TB of storage would be great.
For me the main reason I’m leaning towards a Mac Mini is because I can spread out the upgrade costs over time.
@@adamr4198 I actually purchased the iMac, m3, 16 gig, 1tb… and all the extra accessories I figured why not? It’s too much computer for me probably but maybe when selling it to up grade I can sell it for half what I paid for it years from now…🤷🏻♂️ and by then I’ll know more about computers to go in a different direction… the smaller screen really upsets me but what can ya do Lolol
@@jessewhite7963 iMac 16GB RAM/1TB storage. You won't need anything else - just a clean single cable. A Mac Mini would require configurating the webcam & speakers - not a lot either actually but still a bit more than iMac. 😄7 years is standard in a Mac desktop. That's why better go for 1TB since ur budget covers it.
I have MacBook Air M1 8GB ram and very rarely notice any lag with several safari tab and Brave browser and running Final Cut and Lightroom Classic all at once. I disable the continuous rendering.
Why didn’t you go for the 16 or 24 gb options? I would have assumed you would have Greg. Especially when talking about replacing MacBook Pro and MAC studio.
he wanted to see how the most basic mac handled his tasks. so obviously he wouldn't upgrade the ram or storage. although a second comparison with more ram and storage would definitely be nice
@@andrejcupac7359 Yeah you're absolutely right, but then his language started making it sound like he's comparing how iMac compares not quite as well to Macbook Pro and Mac Studio. Without qualifying that an iMac with 32GB would be outperforming the Macbook Pro with 8GB.
I have one with 16gb and it’s awesome for my needs. Dev work, macOS vm. The display clarity is so nice when coding. I would never recommend 8gb, that’s a machine designed to use swap, and that’s going to hurt its versatility and longevity in the long run.
Even though it's more memory efficient than say Windows, I have to agree. I can't even recommend 8GB to grandma. On the plus side you can get a super cheap used 8GB for your kids because they're saturated the used market as people realize they shoulda got 16GB.
My M1 iMac screen got lines and flickering after just 2 years of use, sent to repair and apparently the workshop said it's a common issues with the all in one iMac
I have to have my tool bar and task bar on auto hide so that I have the most screen real-estate with any screen but it is especially handy on my new 24" iMac.
27" is where I finally got over shrinking my UI to tiny all over the place. Mind you I still have the Dock auto-hide just because I don't want it distracting my attention. Changing menu-bar to black makes it not bothersome and more effective go access it quickly.
Apple sells the iMac with VESA mount for people wanting more adjustment ability. Just pop it on an VESA arm that you can clamp to your desk and you have all the adjustment you need.
I love my M3 iMac. Powerful and clean setup
I wish they made a 27" M3 Pro iMac. I've been waiting to replace my 2015 27" 5k iMac and the 24" is too small, and that Studio Display is way too expensive... and there are no other options that look the same since 99% of competitors are only 4k and they are not glossy/glass panels (which makes a big difference for contrast).
I think that if the studio display would be too expensive for you then a combination of both a screen with the quality of the studio display and the m3 pro at whatever configurations you want would be too.
It's coming. Might be 32" model also.
great video! I have been saying this since the M1 iMacs going into the M3. Happy you made this video, since the M1's and moving forward the power is there to do all tasks you need just a diff in time .
Top stuff Greg. It’s a nice clean setup for sure.
I've always felt UA-camrs putting out 10 minute videos that are little more than straight cuts of stock footage and home studio recordings with the odd title really, really do not need the same level hardware as Industrial Light & Magic. 'Oh but my video renders 5 minutes faster!' Yeah so what. So it's nice to see this more realistic approach.
I love the iMac 24 but I fell deeper in love with the Mac Studio so saving for a studio display so will look like and iMac
if you don’t have 30 tabs per window and five windows Safari then it’s not a real test ;-) Actually user profiles and tab groups has been a huge benefit for me in reducing tab count from 200+ to 30+ at any one time.
the. add in numbers, pages, calendar , mail, outlook, maybe excel. acrobat (full version) with 5-10 documents.
then a couple of DTP apps like InDesign and Illustrator or PS. or a NLE like Da Vinci Resolve.
or a bunch of big Excel workbooks.
Sorry never ever purchase an Apple Mac with 8GB of shared memory. FIGHT THE SWAP!!!!!
Pundits get all upset about things like GQ looks when they should be all over Apple at not making 16GB of shared memory the base starting point for a Mac.
Even normal users should not purchase 8GB shared memory model.
Absolutely true. 16G is the minimum!
Yep, they are using memory and storage as a cash grab.
The pundits I read do get all over the 8GB while praising the looks. Answer is simple enough though. Get 16GB and call it a day.
I am using an m1 MBP in clamshell. 1tb/16gb . I bought a Wavlink powered TB4 hub so I have all the ports I need.
I don't know why, but his face reminds me a lot of the young Harrison Ford.
I really want to see the studio displat made into an imac pro with the mac book pro ports and the m3 max and ultra chips. Throw your old computers at me!! lol
Great review Greg. I have iMac M1 16 GB and 512 GB storage.
This was very helpful. I would love to see how it handles over 1TB files in Photoshop especially compared to your Mac Studio set up. Thanks!
What made you choose that color? and not upgrade the ram? or were you going for a bare bones setup video to see how it works?
How does it look to bring your iMac screen in to Vision Pro? Everyone seems to only do that with a MacBook but would be interesting to see that with a desktop iMac.
Those 15k unread emails trigger my OCD hard!
Awesome episode 🙂 good to know what We lose (or not) buying cheap Mac.
hey does imac m3 do any noise and how does it handle if you record with OBS a game? is the game laggy or even the footage?
From what I saw, it was memory that was the limiting factor. Simply buy the iMac with improved memory and it seems you can do pretty much everything that your $10,000 can do. Mac mini is not an alternative to the iMac. If you are buying from scratch, you'd need the Mac mini, keyboard, Mouse, 4,5k monitor, cables, etc. - that take it above the cos off an iMac.
It takes it to about the same, assuming you got a 24" 4K LG monitor. So it's more about the use case and aesthetics. I went Mac Mini because if anything dies (like display), it's more replaceable. But I can't fault anyone for like the super simple beautiful all-in-one.
It does sound crazy! 🤩
I have been shopping about amongst the various Macs, and as you note, the display is much better than, honestly, most monitors available on the market that are still 1080p or topping out at 4K, which hooked to a comparable Mac mini you are facing more costs.
Not doing video editing and given more to strategy games rather than those working the GPUs, I lean more to wanting RAM rather than GPU so I am leaning towards iMac with 24GB. I also have my eye on a comparable MacBook Air 15” similarly configured, essentially the two on my LAN with the iMac hosting external storage for the two as well as my Apple TV, iPad, and iPhone SE (and likely by then an Apple Watch SE).
I just wish that the RAM didn’t top out at 24GB. I want to stay out of the swap as much as possible.
I still do plenty of hobbyist music video re-editing and photo editing on my M1 mini (8gb). For that small video load, it works great.
What if you want to use it for editing photography (raw files that can be 45 megapixels in size) with programs like Lightroom, Photoshop or Photo AI denoising. I’ve never done videos so it’s basically all Photo manipulation.
If Apple hadn't killed off the 27" iMac I would buy now. Currently I'm still on my 27" i9 ten core iMac and do most my audio work on it. I also have a MBPro M1 Max and performance for my audio work my old iMac i9 is about the same at the M1 Max. In fact the DAW I use displays CPU usage on the menu bar and the i9 uses less CPU than the M1 weird. Apple give us a large screen iMac be it 27" or 32" would be amazing with M3 Max chip that would be great.
The result of the evaluation indicates that despite the consumer-grade specifications, the M3 iMac proves to be surprisingly capable for various tasks. While it may not match the performance of high-end Mac setups in demanding applications like Final Cut Pro, it handles basic tasks and even 4K video editing reasonably well. The all-in-one design and aesthetic appeal of the iMac are praised, making it a recommended choice for those seeking a desktop with an integrated design. Additionally, the M3 iMac is seen as a good value proposition compared to other options like the Mac Mini or M3 MacBook Pro, especially for users prioritizing an all-in-one form factor.
Love the IBM t-shirt. Where did you get it?
How do the speakers of the iMac sound compared to the MBP16? Nobody makes that comparison.
When people talk about MBP16 speakers they are "the best". But some people talking about iMac speakers they are "fine to fill in a small room".
But I think iMac speakers are better than MBP16...what I think happens is that they compare iMac speakers with dedicated desktop speakers setups.
I have the iMac M1 and MBA15 M2 and the speakers on the iMac are definitely much better than the MBA.
Relatively similar to MBP but you realize the smaller MBP was impressing you for its size and you're not as impressed on iMac. To be honest if you love audio quality you should run it through a DAC/AMP and good speakers. So the audio and the visual are both top notch.
You lost me by running Trend Micro's Premium Security Suite into your regular dialogue... oof.
It is difficult to trust people like this with anything when off the rip it is obvious they prioritize money over everything
Got to pay the bills, I'm not offended by it.
@@essamal-mansouri2689Totally disagree, especially in this case when the sponsored product isn’t specifically connected to the product he reviews in the video, and as said in a another comment, he makes YT videos (among other things) for a living.
I’m grateful for his videos. They are personal, funny to watch and contains valuable insights.
Sadly, it’s rare to find a UA-camr who doesn’t take sponsorships. It’s important to remember that they’re making money with this stuff, and probably not extensively trying the products they are recommending.
Yea, I have to agree. Even though I hate it, the guy has to pay the bills.
Good demo of the limitations of 8GB of memory. How did you feel about the limitation of 256GB of storage? Did you miss TouchID on the keyboard?
I'm trying to count money, and it looks like that Mac Mini + monitor + accessorises = 300 euros cheaper.
@GregsGadgets Thanks for all your great reviews. Does your M3 iMac used in this review have a 256 SSD hard drive memory or 512? I see it's not the basic one with just 2 ports at the back. Will this upgraded basic model perform much better than the very basic one with 2 ports? I am thinking of getting the basic 2 port M3 iMac to use with a second Studio display or maybe a Dell 4 K display. I was thinking of getting a 16" M3 Pro Macbook Pro but the screen does not compare really with the size of the M3 iMac and I don't need the portability of the Macbook. I only have basic computer needs and don't edit anything but do often have many windows open. Thanks in advance for your reply.
Will the iMac work well with your new Vision Pro?
We’re can we buy the computer riser that you have
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Wouldn't the comparison be more fair if you had given it 16GB?
I think good job overall. I would like to suggest that mot people buying this won't have the discipline to only have 5 tabs open. I'd say more like 32 tabs across 2 browsers like safari and chrome is more realistic. And with that you definitely start seeing SSD swapping. Furthermore doing color grading with white bezels can impact your perception. Not enough focus on the negatives... my 2 cents.
why doesn’t apple put hdmi into the imac 🤔
main reason i went for the mac mini m1 🔥 them options 💯🤙🏾
I wish we could buy a matching 24” display for dual display
My current work machine is a 2019 MacBook Pro i9 32GB that I use for development, video edits, and a dozen other tasks.
Recently, I borrowed my wife's M2 MacBook Air (16GB) and that thing ran circles around my MBP.
I'm starting to question how much computer I really need after that. Ideally I'd upgrade mine with the current M3 Max ... but with the lower model showing such great performance, one really does have to ask "Is it enough?"
Go “the middle way” and get a M3 Pro chip with 16gb ram and you’re good for the next 8/9 years if it more..
@@frankiepavinato Seriously considering it. I used to use the large RAM for VMs, but I'm running those on VDIs now so that's less of an issue.
why did you do that you have Vision Pro?
iMac with M3 is great for day to day tasks. But for serious 4k or 6k editing, or 3D Modeling, or gaming, you need lots of RAM and a powerful GPU. Just look at NVidia for extreme power at reasonable prices.
The M3 iMac has low RAM, and modest GPU.
Is Trend Micro only for Apple products? Or will it work with windows pc’s?
I usually just disable the rendering.
I suppose I’m unusual in that I don’t have dozens of things open at the same time. I have never been into this “multi-tasking” practice. At worst I might have three things open at the same time and more often it’s never more than two. In that respect I would never overload the iMac particularly with 16gb RAM.
Good afternoon… I work with photo editing and advertising materials. My photo edits have a lot of layers, and I work with a very large flow of batches of images. I was thinking about buying an iMac M3 24GB 1TB. Will I be able to complete my production with this machine? I currently use a 2010 Mac Pro with 12-core Intel Xion and 16GB of Ram. Great video!!!
It will outperform it. The SoC is a true paradigm shift in performance. Only thing I'd wonder about is if 24" is enough for you or if you should wait for the larger one to come out.
@@freecivweb4160 Yes, 24" is enough for my work.
@GregsGadgets What is the exact spec of this iMac? What is the hard drive memory?
Still using my ‘last of the series’ 27” iMac. 24”: sometimes less is just less.
Great Video
Love my new iMac m3 ..The sound quality is kinda disappointing. Everyone oversold that a bit too much!! 😢 My Harman Kardon desktop speakers are staying!!
Wow great video
That M3 iMac would rock with 24GB unified memory and 2TB SSD.
I tried an IMAC and sent it back !
The only place where my iMac disappoints me is…well, macOS. In particular the memory and app/window management. My iPad Pro has 4GB of RAM and I can just use it without ever even thinking about quitting anything. I can have countless Safari and Numbers windows with a ton of tabs, and I don’t have to close any of them of them, let alone quit the respective apps. My iMac has 4 times the memory but feels 4 times more restrictive. I don’t want to be the janitor for a computer. Reminds me of the manual memory allocation days.
If you actually went for the 24GB RAM this could be even considered temporally do-able. Not just insane
All these benchmarks with rendering times are not that important when you edit not a lot of videos but when I try to time transitions and everything just stutters, it's almost impossible to get the editing done unless you jump through hoops. I wish more videos would focus on that. Obviously any new Apple computer is good for web browsing and simple tasks.
Unified Memory equals planned obsolescence. Say you really buy an iMac with just 8 Gigs of RAM. After 2-3 years when newer software is more demanding, you cannot just upgrade the RAM. You have to buy a new Mac. And even if you choose to tough it out, swapping will soon kill your SSD, which you ALSO CAN'T SIMPLY REPLACE. Meaning either way you have to buy a new Mac. Thanks, but no thanks.
Im fine with an M1 as long as it has at least 16gb ram and 1 tb ssd
I got carried away with m2 studio with 2TB SSD and studio display. I’m just a home user who pretends to be a photographer 😂.. a full specced iMac would have suited me better and saved a grand
My wife is the type that would have an iMac. I like customization and 27-inch monitors too much to ever get one.
Now, the M3 Mac Mini in a month from now will be interesting to me.
Why doesn’t apple put m3 pro/max chips in the iMac? There is enough space inside for it.
Because it’s not aimed at Pro users.
Remember when Apple got rid of the startup sound? 😂😂😂😂
Coolking on this one
A new studio plus a display when they update the studio to m3 otherwise it’s a waste of money for me , couldn’t live with that display, it’s too small , they should be giving at least at 27”.
The real reason is because you had to pay for that Apple Vision Pro somehow!
Stopped watching when he installed antivirus on the Mac 🎉
Funny - it should come with 16 gigs of ram - it is totally worthless with 8 gigs of ram; so is the MACBOOK AIR - TOO
For little web videos using Apple devices the iMac with FCP is a great solution. Step outside that workflow and you'll run into issues.
Well this video has been a bit click-baity.
Not long ago you had another video saying this was not the computer for you.
ua-cam.com/video/qRnyLbDe3yk/v-deo.htmlsi=YUvCHD2C23BMFrws
Now you are switching a bit the game here.
Seems more like Apple told you to help them advertise.
It would have been better if you had made reference to that video and really what changed since then.
If you have Apple care and the memory swap degrades the SSD, Apple will replace it .I can't understand why more people don't get it. Apple smokes all the competition comparing price to performance. In geekbench my MacBook Air M2 outscored my maxed out windows desktop pc.
Firstly, when the SSD dies, it'll fail completely, you're looking at potential data loss and downtime. Secondly, AppleCare in the long run will cost you far more than the $200 upgrade. Thirdly, you could upgrade or replace parts on a similarly priced Windows PC, that affects the value proposition. When we get to the point the M3 processor is obsolete, many years from now, this thing could still be used as an excellent external display, just so long as it'll still boot. The 8GB option is dumb unless you know you'll be offloading it in a couple of years, I can only assume it's Apple designing in obsolescence - they want all these devices in a dumpster in 3-5 years so we'll all go buy the new shiny.
@@paulwoodward8265 which ever way you cut it ,Macs /MacBooks ,because of the way they handle memory unless seriously maxed out you will have ssd degradation along with it’s normal degradation. But Apple care on a whole is great if you plan on leaving the house with a portable device ,accidents can happen. I would advise against anyone getting the base model of any Apple device though,because of the aforementioned problem.
Loved you in Oasis, man. Don't Look Back in Anger is a great song!
Everyday Greg wakes up, looks at a Lego minifigure for look inspiration, and combs his hair by putting a bowl full of hair gel on his head and pressing down😂
No iMac please. I need a portable one!
you are really annoying with this click-bait titles
Dude, you need to do something with your hair. It's ridiculous.
You're not fooling anybody