Guys I’ve been a longtime Mike norvell defender, but I’m really leaning towards he may not be the guy we thought. So far he’s going to have 3 seasons under .500. That’s absolutely unacceptable at Florida state. Mike norvells loyalty will get him fired. But also he’s becoming a terrible on field coach, he’s been a terrible recruiter, and it’s starting to look like he can’t develop talent. Those are the 3 main things you have to have as a head coach. He better hire a play caller for next season and overhaul this staff. The fan base has turned on Mike.
He is trying to steal 60 million imo. The 3rd and 4th and goal calls right before the half with the slowest foot QB in America alone said he should be fired by noon today.
I keep hearing people say “this is the worst since Willie Taggart.” No. This is worse. This FSU team is averaging 13.7 ppg vs BC, GT, Memphis, Cal and SMU (not Clemson, UF, Bama, etc.). When Willie was fired in 2018 for reference, his offense averaged 21.9 ppg…Willie’s offense is a full touchdown and 2 point conversion better than the current one. We went from the best team in the ACC to the laughing stock of the nation in 6 games. If Mike doesn’t fire a lot of these coaches this year (who also can’t recruit), then I’m not sure I’ll watch this team for a while. Loyalty only counts when the product is decent. I’m an FSU alumni and I’ve been watching for 30 years. This is the worst team I’ve ever seen FSU put on a field
@richfitz3821 You're exactly right, it is worse than Willie and he didn't have near the blue chips/talent this team has. We had a ton of nfl talent who covered for MN's bad coaching and poor play calling last year. Now they're gone and he and his no-talent staff have been exposed big time.
The fact that FSU really thought Alabama considered Norvell as the coach to replace Saban after his retirement is ridiculous. Imo I don't believe it was ever serious. Agent capitalized on the situation. FSU should have played hardball and not panic into a contract extension. Have they not seen his recruitment? Transfer portal is his life line. Can we say that we watched a player under Norvell come in as a recruit and he develops in the system?
True, though you could add Verse, Fiske, Keon, Johnny etc. to the list, but yeah, the coaching just flat-out sucks. We saw definite signs of it last year with the way Travis' mobility was underutilized before and then during the fateful North Alabama, but the defense covered up that and a lot of other sins. I really thought that Norvell was The Guy because of the turnaround, but it seems like the pull of the FSU program to grab good portal guys resulted in a stockpile of guys who could save the team from very questionable coaching. The mask is off now.
@@jeffmann7653 I think norvell got Lucky with the QB and player's motivated to be good and develop themselves. He can't develop player's and is clueless on finding a QB. Recruiting will take another hit after this last performance against SMU
@@allensaunders449 Agreed. I think he got lucky because it looked like Norvell had the program had turned around and historically FSU has produced a lot of good and great NFL players. So, a good choice for a guy who has NFL aspirations. After this, he'll be lucky to attract walk-ons.
Hey WarChump...have you scrutinized your own insider access reporting media? You guys have been hyping this team ever since Spring. Now you have totally changed your tune! Hmmm...
SMU is better than mediocre. Damn give us some credit geez. We were literally almost every analyst’s pre-season pick for dark horse teams or sneaky good teams.
@@breakfastenjoyer Fair point but they said SMU is average. I’m just saying SMU Is pretty good. Yall not really that bad but for some reason the offense is not on the same page
I feel bad for coming on here and slamming my NOLES! Im just venting fellas! True nole blooded Seminole here til im dead and cold and even then I’ll be a dead nole baby!!!
Love the shows guys thanks for keeping on. I have thought about our woes for way too long. What if the snub has ruined our culture? Mike always preaches do the right thing and results will come. Well they did the right thing all last year and weren't allowed to play for the championship. The committee basically turned CMN into a liar and maybe the message isn't taking anymore.
Norvell play calling in 2022-23 was really good. He schemed guys open & was unpredictable on 4th down. This year he has schemed guys open but DJU all year has been struggling to read defenses & checking into the right play. I don’t know if success made him stubborn or what but why Mike has kept going to DJU is unacceptable. Mike’s desperate decision to go for it all after last years snub has cost him dearly. He didn’t evaluate the players like he was doing. He was only thinking about bringing in “talent” regardless if it fit his scheme or culture. Now his stubbornness will cost him his job if he doesn’t change things up. Atkins needs to go. His offensive line has only gotten worse since 2022. I doubt Mike will turn around this program but only time will tell. If he continues to be stubborn then he has no shot
It's embarrassing to be a. FSU fan RN I tell myself I'm not gonna watch the last 3 games and I find myself peeking anyway only to be disappointed yet unsurprised I live in central Ohio OSU country basically the coworkers have even gotten bored of clowning me over the Noles this is historically bad...
"Suffering from Success" can mean you get there but now are clueless on how to maintain it. Should have rebuilt through Brock and high school over Bama cast offs.
The reason Norvell is on the hot seat it’s not because they’re losing it’s really because the team quit since last year bowl game.. u gotta start over when something like this happens
Astounding how these guys have been so lenient on overpaid Mike Norvell when there were red flags all along. He panics and that panic proliferates the players/team. It's like he played too much madden growing up. Abrupt substitution patterns. Flicking/tossing the ball at the fricking 1 yard line vs Lsu in 2022 and fumble. The dumb call at the end of the NC state game resulted in a pick in the end zone and their defender said they tried earlier and he knew it was coming again. Mike's inability since day 1 to adjust and improve after halftime. Take away the transfer portal talent and he doesn't know what to do but panic. This is worse than Willie Taggart. Overpaid, panic-prone, can't recruit out of high school, doesn't know how to develop existing talent. And yet, these guys and most of the fan base are light on Mike Norvell but blazed Slick Willie. So many red flags were there game after game since 2020 even during the 2022-2023 winning years. People looked the other way.
You cannot look this bad in year 5. Make any excuse in the world that you want, at FSU and in the 5th year of YOUR vision, you cannot look this horribly coached.
On that fourth and 1 play, DJ made the right call not check to a goal line fade. CB has inside leverage, it’s a 10 man blitz, which means the QB has no time to wait for the receiver to beat the jam. The QB sneak has a higher percentage chance of success rather than him throwing a goaline fade under pressure vs a cb with a leverage advantage Should’ve just called a time out and kicked it.
I agree... now. I wouldn't have six weeks ago. Deion has proven he can turn things around and would be a recruiting beast. Imagine this team with Shedeur at qb, travis humter, And all the commits we probably wouldn't have lost, like Bolden.
@JaxNole61 that's what I'm talking about. From the recruiting alone he would make a major impact. Colorado won't be the same without the key players next year due to the NFL. I hate to say it but we're going to take a major Decline with recruiting next year if nothing changes
Condolences Noles. I picked y’all to win this one. Go Clemson. I feel so bad for yall. Bringing in DJU was such a mistake. He gave me anxiety while he was at Clemson. The guy is unbelievably slow. Go Tigers.
Gene salty about the ACC refs getting the call right in the Miami vs VT game lol Did you have that same energy when the ACC took a safety away from Miami last year when JT was sacked in the end zone? 🤔😂
The Big 3 in Florida wants to return back to their dominant era. That is behind you. Those days were historic and probably should not think you are that. FSU only loss 3 games in 2022 and 1 in 2023. Before that you were mediocre since Jameis left. Since Jameis left FSU had been 34-34 in ACC ball until 2024. You may never be in the top tier again. Maybe a couple times in a decade you might be able to compete against the elite. I can see where big time programs come in every off season and buy your top players. That is who you are. A stepping stone.
I know people will talk about lack of recruiting I don't buy it with this schedule we have had better players and more talent than every team on our schedule our coaching has failed us starting with Mike Norville.
We need JTrav to come to the games for the rest of the season. And Marching Chiefs and fans/families. The more support and noise the better for motivation. Even Mike gave credit to them for the win over Cal. They need all the support they can get right now. Maybe Mike can use some of his $84 M to charter some FSU band/fan jets for away games 😂
There's something more going on... this team doesn't pass the eye test... walking and loafing between plays... they're not playing hard... not playing for each other as a team. Norvell's refusal to try and scratch out any amount of offense... beit w/ LT in the wildcat... or packages for Brock... or just a change at QB as a whole... reeks of arrogance and hubris.
Gentlemen. Norvell lost the program before the UGA game. Lasts years team was captained by mercenaries who bailed on the true FSU guys for the bowl game. Norvell tried to bail on them and when he got passed over he brought in more transfers to replace the guys he tried to abandoned
Dont blame FSU players for bailing lasy year. You dont go undeafeated to play a bowl game. Use your common sense. Also, Show a fact based article that say Norvell was passed over. I am waiting.
Goodwill is a myth or just a store. 99.9% of coaches are on a game-to-game basis.Only thing saving some of these guys is the buyouts and lack of major booster monies.
I like Mike in so many ways and I hate it for him and his family because he is about to take it to the point that he will lose 90% or more of the fan base. But when he gets paid that inch and supposedly is a professional at his job this is not going to be acceptable. Maybe he can get back on track but each game forward it will get harder
This lackluster season makes JTrav and his team more legendary…we knew a good thing when we had it. We know a bad thing when we see it too…this is unacceptable and change is needed NOW. Let’s give the younger QBs the playing time they need to develop and bench DJU.
Nobody forced the AD to give Norvell a new contract they did it with eye's wide open. Nothing really wrong with nil false narrative the losers in Nil create or the older football people put out there. Its a free market and player's get paid finally
I love FSU. This football program is becoming too difficult to watch. It’s shocking how bad the team is. Very disappointing. There is a failure of leadership. Change needs to happen. GO NOLES!
Josh from New York is angry speaking! His WT are argument is way off, Travis jay, brownLee and the rest did nothing where they went. Norvell has brought way better players. Your only argument that maybe valid is the subpar development
Stephen A Smith said it two weeks ago. The entire program, not just this season, is in trouble. High school kids will look and say "no" and portal guys will do the same. The TV revenue will begin drying up... There's no way they can exit the ACC now after all the crying because they have become the laughing stock of college ball. The only thing they could hope for is to sell their soul to the devil in the form of a private equity firm to foot the bill for staff buyouts (including Mike), NIL, maybe the ACC exit fees, stadium reno, facilities... in return for a hefty percentage of revenue. This can get very ugly very fast. I'm saying all this as someone who has bled garnet and gold for nearly fifty years, is a booster and alumnus. The harsh reality of college football as a business cannot be ignored. The apocolyptic implosion of this team in one season is unprecedented and Norvell is making 10+ million a year while this ship sinks. It's not acceptable on a football level, on a business level or for the fandom.
I believe this unequivocally started with the decision of the players to abandon their teammates in last year's Orange Bowl. I said then, and I'll say now, that spoke volumes about the FSU football team culture. Crap.
So what is going on in Mike private life? Something is off. Something is going on inside the program or in Mike’s head. A man who knows how to coach doesn’t just get this far and forgets how he to build it. There is a disconnection, out of touch mentality. Something is pulling his attention away. We saw this with Fisher.
The disrespect toward SMU in this postgame is insane. Took a good BYU team to the wire, beat the brakes off TCU and FSU and yall calling them a G5 program.
Welp anyone still think it’s not DJU?! I guarantee with a better Qb we’d be at minimum 3-2. The defense is always on the field n while not great, they’ve played well enough to win games. We just can’t score, can’t move the chains n it’s clear to me that the offense doesn’t believe it can go out and dominate teams (rightfully so) but also the defense has been beaten up, tired and knows if they can’t keep a team to scoring in the 20s, there’s no chance to win. What a terrible team and season. Dont get me wrong, Norvells in game coaching is bad, those 4th down attempts are bad. The lack of identity and chemistry are on the HC too. Bad all around
@shinelife6244 Colorado is not Florida State. No where near the history and tradition. Have you seen Colorado's record, Heisman frontrunner, camaraderie, no quit attitudes??? Have you seen our recruiting rankings (which are gonna get worse when our young blue chips start bailing). Do you have a better idea? I'm eager to hear it. We'd be top ten recruiting Deion's first year and I'd put money on it. Let's hear your solution. I'm open to all ideas.
I’ve given up on this program ever being what it was 25 years ago. It is what it is. A below average team that got lucky in the portal. Two winning seasons in the past 7 years. Accept it for what it is. Next season same thing
I'm with Gene; it's like Mike Norvell is trying to get fired. Every decision he makes is the worst one.
He is trying to steal 60 million
Guys I’ve been a longtime Mike norvell defender, but I’m really leaning towards he may not be the guy we thought. So far he’s going to have 3 seasons under .500. That’s absolutely unacceptable at Florida state. Mike norvells loyalty will get him fired. But also he’s becoming a terrible on field coach, he’s been a terrible recruiter, and it’s starting to look like he can’t develop talent. Those are the 3 main things you have to have as a head coach. He better hire a play caller for next season and overhaul this staff. The fan base has turned on Mike.
He is trying to steal 60 million imo. The 3rd and 4th and goal calls right before the half with the slowest foot QB in America alone said he should be fired by noon today.
Should have seen the major red flag after he called a pitch play on the goal line against LSU 3 years ago.
That's why you look at history and his is good.
I keep hearing people say “this is the worst since Willie Taggart.” No. This is worse. This FSU team is averaging 13.7 ppg vs BC, GT, Memphis, Cal and SMU (not Clemson, UF, Bama, etc.). When Willie was fired in 2018 for reference, his offense averaged 21.9 ppg…Willie’s offense is a full touchdown and 2 point conversion better than the current one. We went from the best team in the ACC to the laughing stock of the nation in 6 games. If Mike doesn’t fire a lot of these coaches this year (who also can’t recruit), then I’m not sure I’ll watch this team for a while. Loyalty only counts when the product is decent. I’m an FSU alumni and I’ve been watching for 30 years. This is the worst team I’ve ever seen FSU put on a field
@richfitz3821 You're exactly right, it is worse than Willie and he didn't have near the blue chips/talent this team has. We had a ton of nfl talent who covered for MN's bad coaching and poor play calling last year. Now they're gone and he and his no-talent staff have been exposed big time.
The fact that FSU really thought Alabama considered Norvell as the coach to replace Saban after his retirement is ridiculous. Imo I don't believe it was ever serious. Agent capitalized on the situation. FSU should have played hardball and not panic into a contract extension. Have they not seen his recruitment? Transfer portal is his life line. Can we say that we watched a player under Norvell come in as a recruit and he develops in the system?
Thank you been saying this since 22 season. The program is not in a good position right now
Pat Payton, J. Farmer, Lawrence T. He still needs to be replaced though. Cut your losses
AMEN!!!!! That's what I've said all along. They played a game of chicken with the University and the school lost.
Mike shouldn’t be able to ride back with the team 😂😂😂
The team shouldn't want the coach with them
There is no "team".
I wish Mike would have took the Bama job 😂
As a bama fan I am glad he didn’t 😂😂
Jordan covered up for bad coaching
True, though you could add Verse, Fiske, Keon, Johnny etc. to the list, but yeah, the coaching just flat-out sucks. We saw definite signs of it last year with the way Travis' mobility was underutilized before and then during the fateful North Alabama, but the defense covered up that and a lot of other sins.
I really thought that Norvell was The Guy because of the turnaround, but it seems like the pull of the FSU program to grab good portal guys resulted in a stockpile of guys who could save the team from very questionable coaching. The mask is off now.
@@jeffmann7653 I think norvell got Lucky with the QB and player's motivated to be good and develop themselves. He can't develop player's and is clueless on finding a QB. Recruiting will take another hit after this last performance against SMU
@@allensaunders449 Agreed. I think he got lucky because it looked like Norvell had the program had turned around and historically FSU has produced a lot of good and great NFL players. So, a good choice for a guy who has NFL aspirations. After this, he'll be lucky to attract walk-ons.
how he was hurt every season here when we needed him....
We shoulda known something was wrong when we went down 14-0 to North Alabama resulting in Jordan's season ending injury trying to save us.
What we need is Curt Cignetti! He a beast of a coach. And a great culture setter. Hes won everywhere he's been. Look what he's doing at Indiana
Hey WarChump...have you scrutinized your own insider access reporting media? You guys have been hyping this team ever since Spring. Now you have totally changed your tune! Hmmm...
They hype been over buddy
Gene referenced the bowl game against Ga as exhibition, Gene is a joke along with that stupid university.
War chump covering the choke a noles can't wait for Miami game heck even the gators have a fifty fifty chance.
No need to criticize these media guys lol. They’re not the ones playing or coaching.
As a bama fan I am glad he said no to bama job 😂
The whole team quit when the face mask penalty
I don’t blame them.
I quit after Morlocks drop
Kyle Moredrops
I think the Morlock play ended the game. But yes that killed the last bit of momentum there might have been left.
Mikes gonna be the first HC to lose to an FCS team and to Duke at FSU lol
Mack Brown will finally get his 1st victory over FSU.
And lose a bowl game by the largest margin of points in CFB history.
It’s not looking great for yall
SMU is better than mediocre. Damn give us some credit geez. We were literally almost every analyst’s pre-season pick for dark horse teams or sneaky good teams.
but we’re not “sneaky good” 😂 averaging two touchdowns is crazy in modern cfb
@@breakfastenjoyer Fair point but they said SMU is average. I’m just saying SMU Is pretty good. Yall not really that bad but for some reason the offense is not on the same page
@@Iatehmem fsu is trash 🗑 they aren't good at anything but special teams
@@MosheDayan8732 Fair but just because FSU is trash this season doesn’t mean we are.
@Iatehmem never said smu is trash 🗑 looking forward to beating you guys congrats 👏 on the win GO CANES!
Travis came from a Fortune 500 college prep school. Special kid who made Atkins and Mike look good.
I feel bad for coming on here and slamming my NOLES! Im just venting fellas!
True nole blooded Seminole here til im dead and cold and even then I’ll be a dead nole baby!!!
As an Auburn fan I feel your pain. I’ve been dealing with this crap for four years now with no end in sight.
Love the shows guys thanks for keeping on. I have thought about our woes for way too long. What if the snub has ruined our culture? Mike always preaches do the right thing and results will come. Well they did the right thing all last year and weren't allowed to play for the championship. The committee basically turned CMN into a liar and maybe the message isn't taking anymore.
fsu has become a joke.. shameful display of play and coaching
Refs are 100% in control of who wins these games and FSU is in the ACC crosshairs. 😂
@@JohnnyBushwhacker-yv6bc Right? That BS hands to the face call was blatant evidence of that.
“Jump out the penthouse and hit the asphalt” was such a good line from Gene 😂😂
Lets face facts. Norvell is average "At Best" and a 60 million buyout aint gonna happen. We are "Sunk"
Norvell play calling in 2022-23 was really good. He schemed guys open & was unpredictable on 4th down. This year he has schemed guys open but DJU all year has been struggling to read defenses & checking into the right play. I don’t know if success made him stubborn or what but why Mike has kept going to DJU is unacceptable. Mike’s desperate decision to go for it all after last years snub has cost him dearly. He didn’t evaluate the players like he was doing. He was only thinking about bringing in “talent” regardless if it fit his scheme or culture. Now his stubbornness will cost him his job if he doesn’t change things up. Atkins needs to go. His offensive line has only gotten worse since 2022. I doubt Mike will turn around this program but only time will tell. If he continues to be stubborn then he has no shot
It's embarrassing to be a. FSU fan RN I tell myself I'm not gonna watch the last 3 games and I find myself peeking anyway only to be disappointed yet unsurprised I live in central Ohio OSU country basically the coworkers have even gotten bored of clowning me over the Noles this is historically bad...
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Cried all Summer, they are getting what they deserve.
We’ve got to find out how we can come up with Norvell’s buyout
Terrible terrible terrible,,,, that qb should have been benched the 2nd game.
Yes I agree. DJU is the worst QB I've seen in the last 55 years of watching football!
Shoulda been benched a couple games ago. The guy is emotionless and uninspiring to his teammates, exact opposite of Jameis.
Should’ve never been here to begin with
There's a reason why Dabo got rid of him and he's been with 3 teams.
Keep Norvell for another 10 years he’s doing a great job 👏 GO CANES 🙌
"Suffering from Success" can mean you get there but now are clueless on how to maintain it. Should have rebuilt through Brock and high school over Bama cast offs.
The reason Norvell is on the hot seat it’s not because they’re losing it’s really because the team quit since last year bowl game.. u gotta start over when something like this happens
It's sad to see a once mighty program reduced to this. Football is better when FSU is good. Norvell has trashed it, and for $9.8 million per year.
So would an FSU fan take Deion Shadeur and Travis Hunter right now. Just saying you had the chance
Not really
NO!!!!!!
Absolutely not!
That’s just your pride talking
I know we 5 games in but where is all this speed Norvell kept talking about all summer?
Astounding how these guys have been so lenient on overpaid Mike Norvell when there were red flags all along. He panics and that panic proliferates the players/team. It's like he played too much madden growing up. Abrupt substitution patterns. Flicking/tossing the ball at the fricking 1 yard line vs Lsu in 2022 and fumble. The dumb call at the end of the NC state game resulted in a pick in the end zone and their defender said they tried earlier and he knew it was coming again. Mike's inability since day 1 to adjust and improve after halftime. Take away the transfer portal talent and he doesn't know what to do but panic. This is worse than Willie Taggart. Overpaid, panic-prone, can't recruit out of high school, doesn't know how to develop existing talent.
And yet, these guys and most of the fan base are light on Mike Norvell but blazed Slick Willie. So many red flags were there game after game since 2020 even during the 2022-2023 winning years. People looked the other way.
I guess the other teams in the ACC are not as bad as FSU fans were saying all summer.
You cannot look this bad in year 5. Make any excuse in the world that you want, at FSU and in the 5th year of YOUR vision, you cannot look this horribly coached.
If DJ or Morlock start next week, I'm pulling by TBE subscription. If Byers starts I might still pull it.
Mike NorveLLLL
On that fourth and 1 play, DJ made the right call not check to a goal line fade.
CB has inside leverage, it’s a 10 man blitz, which means the QB has no time to wait for the receiver to beat the jam.
The QB sneak has a higher percentage chance of success rather than him throwing a goaline fade under pressure vs a cb with a leverage advantage
Should’ve just called a time out and kicked it.
Dude, did the coaching staff take the offseason off too?
Coach Prime, we need you
No thanks!
I agree... now. I wouldn't have six weeks ago. Deion has proven he can turn things around and would be a recruiting beast. Imagine this team with Shedeur at qb, travis humter, And all the commits we probably wouldn't have lost, like Bolden.
@JaxNole61 that's what I'm talking about. From the recruiting alone he would make a major impact. Colorado won't be the same without the key players next year due to the NFL. I hate to say it but we're going to take a major Decline with recruiting next year if nothing changes
@@orlguy1977 Yep, I guarantee you some of our young dogs are already planning their transfers to get away from this clown show.
Gonna have to do what miami did in the 80's to earn NIL money ❄️❄️❄️⛄️
Steal pell grants?
Condolences Noles. I picked y’all to win this one. Go Clemson. I feel so bad for yall. Bringing in DJU was such a mistake. He gave me anxiety while he was at Clemson. The guy is unbelievably slow. Go Tigers.
Gene salty about the ACC refs getting the call right in the Miami vs VT game lol Did you have that same energy when the ACC took a safety away from Miami last year when JT was sacked in the end zone? 🤔😂
I'm worried Luke will transfer...
Who could fault him for it?
More than just Luke….
@@fjb3544 yep, sadly. Can't blame them though. It's a mess right now.
How on earth is Morlock a recruiting victory.
Every time I’ve tried to call in to the postgame show I get a dial tone, any help?
The Big 3 in Florida wants to return back to their dominant era. That is behind you. Those days were historic and probably should not think you are that. FSU only loss 3 games in 2022 and 1 in 2023. Before that you were mediocre since Jameis left. Since Jameis left FSU had been 34-34 in ACC ball until 2024. You may never be in the top tier again. Maybe a couple times in a decade you might be able to compete against the elite. I can see where big time programs come in every off season and buy your top players. That is who you are. A stepping stone.
I know people will talk about lack of recruiting I don't buy it with this schedule we have had better players and more talent than every team on our schedule our coaching has failed us starting with Mike Norville.
Jordan Travis must be the next Patrick Mahomes or something
Well, Jordan and 14 other Nfl players covered for awful coaching abd play calling
We need JTrav to come to the games for the rest of the season. And Marching Chiefs and fans/families. The more support and noise the better for motivation. Even Mike gave credit to them for the win over Cal. They need all the support they can get right now. Maybe Mike can use some of his $84 M to charter some FSU band/fan jets for away games 😂
There's something more going on... this team doesn't pass the eye test... walking and loafing between plays... they're not playing hard... not playing for each other as a team.
Norvell's refusal to try and scratch out any amount of offense... beit w/ LT in the wildcat... or packages for Brock... or just a change at QB as a whole... reeks of arrogance and hubris.
OL/OC has to go... LB right behind him.
Gentlemen. Norvell lost the program before the UGA game. Lasts years team was captained by mercenaries who bailed on the true FSU guys for the bowl game. Norvell tried to bail on them and when he got passed over he brought in more transfers to replace the guys he tried to abandoned
Dont blame FSU players for bailing lasy year. You dont go undeafeated to play a bowl game. Use your common sense. Also, Show a fact based article that say Norvell was passed over. I am waiting.
Norvell made a mistake by overlooking Tate, who was developed under JTrav. He could’ve been a leader, unlike this mid 6th yr QB who is floundering.
How many of you guys ranked or considered Norvell a better Head Coach than Dabo just 2 months ago?
Weve seen it a million times before. You give a guy a guaranteed life timw contract like mike has and his give a damn goes right out the window.
Why didnt they pursue Deboear instead of Norvell after Willie???
The football gods are pissed at FSU. It's as simple as that!
There are no football gods you 🤡. These games are rigged, scripted, and controlled by leagues through refs.
Ever since the logo change, it's been one humiliation after another. 63 year fan here and I've never seen an FSU team this pathetic.
Goodwill is a myth or just a store. 99.9% of coaches are on a game-to-game basis.Only thing saving some of these guys is the buyouts and lack of major booster monies.
Idc! Mane I hope it’s Norvell’s last year at FSU
Deion is the only thing that can save us and our recruiting. I woulda laughed at that thought 6 weeks ago.
@@JaxNole61Hate to say it but you just might be right
Fire any writer who thought Fuller Atkins ol and defense were good
This whole staff is very bad
I like Mike in so many ways and I hate it for him and his family because he is about to take it to the point that he will lose 90% or more of the fan base. But when he gets paid that inch and supposedly is a professional at his job this is not going to be acceptable. Maybe he can get back on track but each game forward it will get harder
I think Norvells job security seems pretty straightforward rn. Lose to Charleston southern and you’re 100% gone
This lackluster season makes JTrav and his team more legendary…we knew a good thing when we had it. We know a bad thing when we see it too…this is unacceptable and change is needed NOW. Let’s give the younger QBs the playing time they need to develop and bench DJU.
Seminole nation wants their naming rights back!
Nobody forced the AD to give Norvell a new contract they did it with eye's wide open. Nothing really wrong with nil false narrative the losers in Nil create or the older football people put out there. Its a free market and player's get paid finally
An utter mess of a program
I love FSU. This football program is becoming too difficult to watch. It’s shocking how bad the team is. Very disappointing. There is a failure of leadership. Change needs to happen. GO NOLES!
You mean, Go Up, Noles! 🪓
Josh from New York is angry speaking! His WT are argument is way off, Travis jay, brownLee and the rest did nothing where they went. Norvell has brought way better players. Your only argument that maybe valid is the subpar development
The theme of WORK across the often worn Norvell t shirt needs an amendment. Add on the right thing because they are doing too much of the opposite.
Michael is a G5 coach.
Florida State fans must feel more awkward than the Haitian President trying to drink from anything other than a garden hose.
Stephen A Smith said it two weeks ago. The entire program, not just this season, is in trouble. High school kids will look and say "no" and portal guys will do the same. The TV revenue will begin drying up... There's no way they can exit the ACC now after all the crying because they have become the laughing stock of college ball. The only thing they could hope for is to sell their soul to the devil in the form of a private equity firm to foot the bill for staff buyouts (including Mike), NIL, maybe the ACC exit fees, stadium reno, facilities... in return for a hefty percentage of revenue. This can get very ugly very fast. I'm saying all this as someone who has bled garnet and gold for nearly fifty years, is a booster and alumnus. The harsh reality of college football as a business cannot be ignored. The apocolyptic implosion of this team in one season is unprecedented and Norvell is making 10+ million a year while this ship sinks. It's not acceptable on a football level, on a business level or for the fandom.
Get the UNLV Qb!!!
Yea this team needs another quitter
It’s a roster issue. They didn’t forget how to coach
#1 issue is still FSU must get out of ACC as soon as possible.
Mike isn’t the guy
I will buy remaining season ticket package for 2 tickets for $29.99. Then sell them for $34.99.
More like $14.99
I believe this unequivocally started with the decision of the players to abandon their teammates in last year's Orange Bowl. I said then, and I'll say now, that spoke volumes about the FSU football team culture. Crap.
Fire Fuller promote Shannon, fire Atkins, and keep mikee. simplify the play calling. Play freshman.
Promote shannon😅😅😅 your a joke 😂😂😂
So what is going on in Mike private life? Something is off. Something is going on inside the program or in Mike’s head. A man who knows how to coach doesn’t just get this far and forgets how he to build it. There is a disconnection, out of touch mentality. Something is pulling his attention away. We saw this with Fisher.
Time for a staff change I’m shameful to be a Nole
The disrespect toward SMU in this postgame is insane. Took a good BYU team to the wire, beat the brakes off TCU and FSU and yall calling them a G5 program.
that’s cause they are bud. They’re not even the 3rd best team in the ACC.
@@breakfastenjoyer only one team looked like a g5 program last night and it sure as sh*t wasn’t SMU
You was just playing in the Orange Bowl and now you ready to give up? 😂😂😂
I love FSU….. This team is do bad….. Charleston Southern is lickin their chops…..GO CANES!!!!😂😂😂😂
When the fall portal opens there will be an exodus from FSU. No one bounces back from this in a few seasons.
I said the same thing
How many fbs teams are worse than us?
Maybe Cal but how many others?
UCLA
ESPN rigged the season against us!!! We're national champs. We can't be expected to keep playing powerhouses like SMU every year. RIGGED SEASON!!!
“Against a mediocre team”… oh my… talk about lack of self awareness… WOW!
Welp anyone still think it’s not DJU?! I guarantee with a better Qb we’d be at minimum 3-2. The defense is always on the field n while not great, they’ve played well enough to win games. We just can’t score, can’t move the chains n it’s clear to me that the offense doesn’t believe it can go out and dominate teams (rightfully so) but also the defense has been beaten up, tired and knows if they can’t keep a team to scoring in the 20s, there’s no chance to win. What a terrible team and season. Dont get me wrong, Norvells in game coaching is bad, those 4th down attempts are bad. The lack of identity and chemistry are on the HC too. Bad all around
Jimbo is available , he doesn't need the money, maybe he'd come back for peanuts
I say bring Deion home. He couldv turn this around and be an absolute recruiting beast.
@JaxNole61 have you seen Colorado's recruiting rankings 😅
@shinelife6244 Colorado is not Florida State. No where near the history and tradition. Have you seen Colorado's record, Heisman frontrunner, camaraderie, no quit attitudes???
Have you seen our recruiting rankings (which are gonna get worse when our young blue chips start bailing). Do you have a better idea? I'm eager to hear it.
We'd be top ten recruiting Deion's first year and I'd put money on it.
Let's hear your solution. I'm open to all ideas.
The kind of under the breath creepy laugh kind of scared me. Lol
from who lol
I’ve given up on this program ever being what it was 25 years ago. It is what it is. A below average team that got lucky in the portal. Two winning seasons in the past 7 years. Accept it for what it is. Next season same thing
SMU is far from mediocre.........
You quit last year and the football gods have cursed you for the cardinal sin of giving up
This team has quit!
You can’t spell Norvell without the L’s
That poop video is not funny
Exactly and even if it was they killed it in one episode.
Not sure what’s more annoying. Norvells play calling or his voice.
he sounds like he’s holding in a fart
Go DJ…..Go DJ…..🔥🔥🔥
Most everyone thought we would be 5-0 at this stage of the season with Clemson coming to town! Has any FSU team prediction ever been this far off??