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- Опубліковано 12 жов 2021
- @TheWeeknd has gone back to the future with his most recent album with futuristic synths of the 80's. His 80's music style has seen him become one of the stand-out artists of 2021. But what makes this album sound more 80's than 80's music itself?
Here are the teams music recommendations;
@ryanlermanmusic 11-17-70 @EltonJohn • Bad Side Of The Moon (...
@theokatzman The 1975 / @the1975
@guitarianna Charley Crockett / charleycrockett
@Jackconte Mid Air Thief / mid-air thief - topic
“The bridge is written to make the chorus sound better” WOW how have I never thought of that
The way she described Monk's quote reminded me of the lyrics to Bjork's Hyperballad. What a journey in one turn of phrase!
I thought that was common knowledge. It’s almost like a cadence.
"His first name's Abel, know what his last name is?"
"Ton."
That was just...sublimely awful.
The ultimate dad joke from Ryan there!
You guys need some world and language knowledge - that last name is Ethiopian/Eritrean.
His name is [A-bell] [Tess-fai-yeah] (ye).
@@DeadWaxShow I wish my dad had jokes like this
@@rebllion9866 No need to be shitty, you can share your 'knowledge' without being a prick.
@@rebllion9866 His last name is just [Tess-fai]. Of course, he's Ethiopian while I'm Eritrean so perhaps he pronounces it a little different. Thanks for remembering that there are two countries that use Ge'ez script.
The Weeknd is nostalgic in his musical sound and style but feels fresh and new with his unique voice. He really captures the edge and thrill of the sounds that encapsulate a time period, sound or feeling. Bruno Mars is another person who is just as good at this. Both of them are throwback artists in their own way and understand the musicality of what it takes to harness that sound but to me, The Weeknd pushes his retro vibes forward into the future while Bruno Mars takes his retro vibes to the vintage sounds of the past. I believe both of those tastes primarily lend to their voices. Bruno has that soulful throwback rasp that naturally lends to those vintage sounds while The Weeknd's voice is more soulful and ethereal, lending itself to a more forward-thinking sound and fresher feel.
I'm a kid from the 80's...i really ignore today's music...but then i discovered the weeknd. The nostalgia is real!!
Me as well. One of the very few songs from today's that has catch my attention.
@@giannilyanicks1718 Gen X baby!!
@@sesimie shutup
ok boomer.
Abel is such a talent. His voice is so good and his hooks and melodies are so earwormy. He has these poppy, timeless dance mega hits but he is also capable of creating such dark, emotional music too. All of which is very cinematic. Even his upbeat songs have deeper melancholy undertones. There's a genre of music that makes you want to cry and dance at the same time. Like you don't know whether to twerk or get on the floor in the fetal position and feel it all hahaha
It's like a group of friends trying to cheer up their sad friend by dragging them to go dancing
His music is great for sad contemplative car rides or wedding reception dances
The Smiths - "How Soon Is Now?"
"There's A Club, If You'd Like To Go...
You Could Meet Somebody Who Really Loves You...
So You Go, And You Stand On Your Own, A Leave On Your Own, And You Go Home, And You Cry, And You Want To Die."
@@calebclunie4001 great band and song!
You mean his team of producers, writers and musicians are capable. Listen to The Midnight. Listen to Gunship. Listen to Timecop.
@@VVVY777 lmao, he dropped out of school and released three albums in one year. All of which are extremely highly regarded. All of which were made and put on the internet for free long before he had a cent to spare, let alone a team of producers and writers. Check out “Montreal” from him to see what I’m talking about.
@@VVVY777 It’s pretty obvious you don’t know much about the weeknd so I’m not sure why you’re attempting to push a narrative that he doesn’t have any involvement in his music when that isn’t true. Kinda weird.
I was a teen in the 80s and I think it sound more like a caricature of the 80s than actual 80s. imo
Agree 100%
So was I. I see it more as an homage. But I get what you're saying.
Legit. The title is a complete piss take and ignorant.
Agreed, listening to it you can tell it's TRYING very very hard to sound 80's ish, but it misses the mark, the mic is too crisp, it sounds like it has been digitally cleaned up, it's too clinical.
I kind of feel like the title and you are saying the same thing. They're pointing to some of the most iconic or obvious characteristics of 80's music when they say it's more 80's than the 80's music. And what is a caricature but an exaggeration of something/someone's most obvious characteristics. I see it like everybody's impression of Arnold Schwarzenegger, you're going to grunt and yell "get to the choppa" far more than he ever did because we remember the highlights.
This channel is my new "I stop anything I'm doing to watch their new video right now" type of deal ^^ (thank you UA-cam recommandations!!)
I'd even suggest a 30min format instead of 20-25min, because I have a strong feeling that there's so much that doesn't make the cut, and I'm sure there's a lot more that you guys would like to share with us!
Thanks so much Alexandre I'm so glad you like it!
I feel the same way! My favorite now 🤩
Same, also thanks to recommendation
Same.
A very underrated thing very few people notice about the Weeknd is his choice of notes for the vocal lines. Notice how he builds from the root, to the 5th in the pre-chorus, and then to the root an octave higher in the chorus. And in the live version, when re repeats the chorus he uses the 3rd and 4th instead of the root.
Yes! Such a great observation.
Expressed perfectly.
Sings the harmony live ?
@@Hoom401 Yes, you can check this example at 2:10: ua-cam.com/video/VJYpyC1SNPc/v-deo.html
he use a Roland Juno-60 synth in hardware from the weeknd song @@DeadWaxShow
Take My Breath is one of Abel’s best examples of an amazing bridge
I started to notice how 80s this album sounded ....now I can hear what 80s sing inspired each song on this album...I love it
It's basically mainstream synthwave, and it is well done. Synthwave is just about the only newer genre than gives me hope - I was there in the eighties, and it was a thrilling time, and in many ways that time had more of a futuristic aesthetic than now. Of course, as an electronic musician I've made some synthwave music as well - the quality of nostalgia and futurism simultaneously is entirely my thing. I love it.
Weeknd also found a way to fit his style n narrative into these songs n albums the lyrics are dark n that’s why the songs feel more darker then ur regular synthwave especially Save Your Tears
@@Hamzethegoat I don't care about the lyrics at all. I care about the chord progressions, the timbres, the arrangement, and what they evoke.
@@singlesideman I couldn't agree more. Retrowave is also doing the music we need right now... The Midnight being a prime example...
I could listen to you guys for days! I’m learning so much from your breakdown of these artists/songs. Please keep pumping out content! Love it
Wish you guys would go over "Hardest To Love" on the same album. Beautiful song, with a unique timing difference for the verse, and then standard in the chorus that I can't really understand the concept/reason for.
I really hope that Theo's love of The 1975 means that they do an episode on them at some point, they have some incredible tunes that are worth the deeper dive!
question is which ones? Robbers or Sex should be there and maybe then a song like Somebody else or If your too shy.
@@J.D.... Robbers is so common and basic, they should look into She's American or This Must Be My Dream and Sex or something more lowkey and deeper in the catalog.
@@isolars Yeah you are probably right. Robbers is just so good tho.
@@J.D.... I mean it’s alright, the nostalgia and memories of that song make it so good imo. I’d much rather listen to please be naked than a song Matty wrote at 18.
Now that you’ve brought up Take On Me (and it’s stuck in my head again) why not a full review? Such a classic, especially with the amazing video that accompanied it.
Great idea!
Super good idea....oh what he said⬆😂
European Synthesizer Music? Italo Disco?
I like Cyber People, Koto, and Wish Key.
"Take On Me" is almost the most 80's video ever...but is it more 80's than "No Tengo Dinero" by Righeira?
ua-cam.com/video/kwxIGe1oOJQ/v-deo.html
It is tough, to convince me of something more 80's.
Take on me would be soooooo goood!
The way ya'll build off of each others comments allows, for me, a whole new perspective on the music you're analyzing as well as other music, old and new, that I encounter. I love this show.
Love the Weeknd! Reminds me of my younger days. The synth sounds are more harmonic and complex than the earlier days, which gives a richer texture to their sound. Love your show by the way!
Please do a Parcels track next…. Sublime funky guys…
Hell yeah!
I was just listening to them! They're great!
bit generic tho.. Jungle are better
‘Save your Tears’ blends beautifully with ‘Goodbye Horses’ by Q Lazzarus. I saw a video on here a few months back where these two songs were mashed up and I couldn’t get enough of it. I need to look for that again…
Jack I so love you for making these vids and the crew; you all are just so amazing; as a Dj from the 80s and born in 1960 and got to listen to 50s upwards. But the 70s and 80s stand out the most; but me not being an Artist; I have and are learning so so much from you guys, love love love it and thank you all
These reviews are amazing. I appreciate the songs more after these little nuances and tweaks are pointed out, and the music reviews at the beginning have me running all over UA-cam. Subbed for SURE.
Absolutely love!!!! More more! This is my fav YT channel!!❤️❤️❤️
merci pour les recommandations d'albums et d'artistes au debut de la video. Quel plaisir de découvrir vos points de vue sur cet artiste
Great channel, great video.
Nice of you to explain stuff you talk about as well.
Fantastic! I so very much appreciate what you guys are creating here!!!
Love this series!!!!!!! Keep it up woohoooo
Thank you for another episode. Love it! Thoughts on anything from post ‘The Bends’ Radiohead discography? Feel like that has a lot sonically to discuss, but also touches on how artists change (an unavoidable topic with that band).
These videos are so thoughtful and educational I would listen to this in podcast format! Not because I don't love the amazing video footage and beautifully arranged cuts and educational pieces but only because I want to listen to this more and more and on the go and in bed and all the time!
Love the music recs at the beginning of every video. This bas become an awesome way for me to discover new music
I feel this is the episode Arianna found their groove and dynamic of these conversations. Great having them here!
youtube recomended this...and I'm glad it did...loved it...esp the little pop-up tech details/comments, and the main host's demo playing of the chords... good chemistry between the group...sub'd.
Blinding lights is my driving song when i go out to drive the canyons late at night ! ! ! LOVE THAT F###’n SONG ! ! !
That sounds like a great late night activity!
@@DeadWaxShow yeah... if you ever get the chance... hope into your car alone and go out to a canyon road and put this song on and you will thank me later ! !
Love the analysis as well as the music recommendations from what y'all are listening to. All of it makes me more enthused about music.
Just found ur channel and it is a gift. Been making music for ove a decade and ive had thoughts of doing this exact format with my musician friends. Im glad you did it before me and ith people of noteriety and legitimacy. I think as musicians we eally value hearing the ideas and impressions of professionals we aspire to be successful like.
Absolutely love the music recommendations segment! Keep it going!
These breakdowns have become a must watch for me. Keep it up!
Well done ! I’d love to hear more current stuff, as 90% of what i listen to is from 70-90s / the weeknd perfect example :-)
There’s an exact riff in “save your tears “ lifted from Michael Jackson “rock with you “
Amazing video guys! Looking forward to hear new stuff from Abel Ton!
I really REALLY loved how this episode evolved from talking about the Weeknd to talking A/B synth comparisons, to how chord progressions make you feel, to how you digest music in your daily life, to your personal experience listening to stuff as a teen. It felt a lot more organic than previous videos (not that they weren't also great). Also everyone's music recommendations were on 🔥. EARLY Elton is the BEST ELTON (hot take)
Your channel is amazing I just discovered it with the Leeland Sklar video and fell in love with your channel keep up with the good stuff
thank you! we need this kind of talk show
LOVE HIM
The last question at the end is what I’ve been dying to ask other musician! I can’t believe someone actually asked it on this show! Thank you!
Thank you, I think this podcast helps aspiring musicians like me understand music so much more!
Tasty for the brain and heart. I loved it!
Congrats pals, this content is refreshing. Thanks!
This is great. Love this interaction with each other.
I effing love you guys and I have been binge watching every episode (not chronologically). Best content on the internet, or tv for that matter. Thanks for everything. Keep it going please.
The dynamic range in Chick Corea's ""Return to Forever" is amazing. Thanks for the content!
Loving your show such a great vibe!
I love all these videos! Indy Band Recommendation: Onward, Soldiers out of Wilmington, North Carolina
I’m so happy the UA-cam algo fed me this channel tonight. This is f**king awesome, I love it, instantly hooked, subscribed, the whole 9. I will now binge the entire back catalogue until 4am. Woo hoo 🤠
Just found you guys! I’m a music teacher and this is incredibly fun and informative for me- Thanks!
Great analysis, and a quite brilliant USA 94 cap. Sheeeeeet, I was looking at the sweater just this week!
Fantastic. Thank you so much!
as someone who wantsa to get into music more production playing instruments, this Chanel is so great! appreciate the breakdown and the people who are behind these videos
The way you explain everything, to a person like myself who basically know nothing about production of the songs, just for a very weird reason adds an nth degree of depth to the way I, on a personal level listen and feel the music, and not just the lyrics. Also it makes you want you to appreciate the amount of hard work singers, music producers and all the other people involved.
P.S. Please react of Charlie Puth's songs as well 'cause as far as i know he writes and also produces his music. I'm not sure about all his songs , but he is super involved into the production.
Music Recommendations: 1:25
Ryan: Elton John - 11-17-70 1:30
Theo Katzmen: The 1975 - Notes On A Conditional Form 1:51
Arianna Powell: Charley Crockett - Honky Tonk Jubille 2:05
Mid-air Thief - Crumbling 2:17
thanks will listen to some of these
Oh hell ya Ryan. So glad you gave 11-17-70 a shout out. Top 5 for me as far as live albums.
You're taste is excuisite. Vibe vs. raw talent.
Great content! Please continue to educate us about music!
New favorite channel for sure!
Love your channel! You should do one of these with someone who worked on the track (e.g producer, mixer) present
This seems to be the go to line-up now, absolutely perfect!
yeah great line-up, but I miss Nick Campbell T_T
Keep going guys, those sessions are gold!
On the topic of poppier stuff, I would love to see your reactions to some I DON'T KNOW HOW BUT THEY FOUND ME, their new record is absolutely killer
To simplesmente apaixonado por esse canal. Continuem! Abraços do Brasilll
What is The Weeknd's real name?
Saturday, Sunday
😂
Looking forward to your take on An Evening with Silk sonic album.
I want to learn more about THE VOLUME WARS!
I love being introduced to this concept and being encouraged to pay more attention to sound design as a subject in which Ryan stated Jack is knowledgeable.
I had been a fan of Bon Iver and similar musicians with somewhat unique or innovative production and arrangement for some time. I think this subject and how it affects or contributes to arrangements and dynamics is what I enjoy so much about these styles.
As a musician I absolutely love you guys talk about new music your listening to. You got a sub from me.
Haha I guess I already was a sub. Lol
if y’all enjoyed this, i recommend looking into some synthwave artists that are out right now too.
the midnight is one of my all time favorite artists across all genres, DEFINITELY recommend if you want immersive, beautifully written music
I’m so glad I found this channel!!
After Hours was an amazing experience of an album. You guys should react to Alone Again and Faith. Those two songs easily withing the top 5 best songs from the album!
Faith tho. Omg yes. The end.. "I ended up... In the back of a flashing car.. the lights are blinding... "
And Too Late! That's my favorite song off the album
Escape from LA, Heartless and the great After Hours. After Hours is just BLISS.
Been using the Vulf Compressor plug-in for a couple years now. "Vibe" is the only word that really captures what this thing creates. Awesome stuff!
Amazing as always.
Watching your reactions to The Weeknd makes me like the song, wasn't sure why he went so '80s, but it's cool. I have experience, I used to babysit Rockstars in the studio, occasionally play some Guitar! 🎸🎼 🎶
It only took this video for me to subscribe. I never saw anyone else who pay attention to sounds like you guys, even in music production channels.
Sounds to me a lot like Synthwave music, which may explain the 80's intent. It is pretty decent for a commercial venture but there are many more interesting examples in the Synthwave universe.
The first thing the snare reminded me of on the Weekend track was "Young Turks" by Rod Stewart, but I can see why "Take on Me" would come up too.
Yes I agree dynamics give a song so much feeling😭
Love this...learning so much from these videos.
I am interested in your comparison of Blinding Lights with Michael Sembello's - Maniac. I hear similarities but would love your expert ear and comments.
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I did a cover a while ago mixing blinding lights with take on me. That synth is amazing!
Hard rock and classic rock fan, punk fan here. I went out of my way actually get After Hours on CD for my library.
Thankyou guys love learning about music.
I love how accessible these videos are for someone like me without a music background
"see through lyrics" that's a really apt description....but to me the Weeknd is a vibe. The music seeps into a time of day or a mood that you feel. I do feel like when i listen to the Weeknd, I am doing something or I am moving, driving especially at night...
Also please do Dancing in the Moonlight by Thin Lizzy.
I couldn't agree more about the driving feeling, they've nailed that!
That's so true especially his compilation album Trilogy. I have to be in a specific mood for those songs because they kind of transport you to a specific place when you're listening to them
Great episode! May I suggest reacting to Com Truise? Keep it up!
gotta check out “Take My Breath”, his newest single. straight club bop
Takes back to my mid 80's !!! Very nice
So very good. These feel too short, but that probably means you're doing it right.
Never heard that Thelonious note about the bridge before. Little gold nugget.
Great video!
Wow, finally... Thank you algo! Subbed.
Just an amazing evolution of an artist that I followed when he used to give away his albums via website.
Just want to say thanks for using four different iconic dynamic mics to record the conversation haha
Because It is DOPE...AND A GENIUS 🎶🔥
We also have to acknowledge that the copression and limiter algorithms have developed immensly in the past decade. There are plugins that can increase volume and still keep the crispy transients so much better than before, so while the argument that compression is damaging the dynamics is still valid, i think only by comparing how the sondwaves of a master look today and 30 years ago is missing the point.
For all the (well deserved!) acclaim that Phoebe Bridgers gets for songwriting, I find the sound design to be so deep and rewarding. I'd love for you guys to dissect "Scott Street" or "Punisher".
So this is where you disappeared to Jack. I used to love watching your channel before Patreon took up your time. I love this stuff. I'm not musically talented or inclined but I love listening to the breakdowns so much. Much appreciated
Fun Fact: Max Martin (the guy who produced both songs) co owns the company that makes RC-20.
Clever!
I'd love something about Dua Lipa, her album Future Nostalgia has some good and interesting Disco elements specially "Don't start now" and the actual song with the name of the album pretty much wants to be analyzed