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Flabbergastation | Limbus Company Part 8 - Foreman Plays Stuff
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- Опубліковано 29 січ 2024
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Hey, this Canto is a little more spicy! discord.gg/foremanplaysstuff
Ah yes, Canto 3. Where the game reminds you that you are still in the City. Probably my favourite Canto.
Btw, if you have the time, try doing ego corrosion with some of the sinner's egos. You can do that manually by holding an ego icon when you open the menu. Though be warned that you will need double the resources to do that if you don't want it to attack your sinners if RNG screws you. It's really fun and actually viable if you know the risks involved.
Fun fact! According to Watson, the former English translation editor, Ryoshu's CIDER acronym stands for "Charge In, Die, Et Repeat."
Just a tip when you use overclocked EGOs, Foreman. You can get put in debt due to negative sin resources, but dont worry! The head won't send Zena to collect your debt.
NOOOOOOOO
Tho another thing going into debt causes random targeting(which can potentially hit your dudes)
This is something that I only found out recently
NOOOOOO@@randomisfoda
Red sheets sinclair is one of the hardest rupture ids to manage, BUT
his bench passive(in team, not fighting) is arguably the strongest rupture passive especially if you're running a 7Association team who also have a lot of rupture and gluttony on top of other debuffs.
Funnily the best ID for him to support is Rodieci, whose large health pool rarely gets drained, and who has a lot of coins to use talisman on. 3 gloom coins synergises pretty well with AEDD too.
@@wymarsane7305no gluttony skills, no rupture count, lots of coins, discards her S1s
@@wymarsane7305 I think K Hong Lu works better. He makes better use of rupture, he has his own gluttony to trigger the passive, he has higher HP, and he can easily heal off any damage from the talismans with either his skill 2 or an ampule.
I like to use lantern don to carry his passive
Few things to note
1) I forget if you mentioned this already, I feel like you have but just in case. Vergilius & Charon are from a prequel story Leviathan that explains their backstory.
2) Welcome to the PM difficulty spike! just a heads up this chapter is kinda lousy with them to so have fun with that
3) Just to get ahead of the crowd on this one. On launch, it was mission critical for you to have a full Slash/Pierce team that did not inflict any bleed or burn count unless you wanted the dungeon to go on an extra 2+ hours. something the game *does not* warn you about and was much harder to do when a majority of the slash IDs at launch were all bleed focused. Now it's not as bad cause they patched in ways around it but yeah. So if anyone gets on your ass for bringing bleed into the dungeon just ignore them, it's just the PTSD talking
Wait until he finds out about overclocking
this canto is where i started to really learn to love the base ids and egos, some of them are just pog as hell here
my personal shouts are for faust, hong lu, heathcliff, ishmael, and outis, but i think some others would be great here too
Sinclair base ID is actually pretty good as well
Cock-a-hoop means to be extremely and obviously pleased about something, particularly an achievement of some kind
Ah a Foreman upload it seems my sleep schedule shall haft to wait once again :D
That… absolutely did *not* feel like an hour and a half. Good work, Foreman.
A good advice starting this chapter is paying attention to enemy resistances. Enemies of same faction/archetype tend to have same resistance and generally, as a whole, almost every enemy, just like all sinner identity, has a damage type its weak to, damage type its strong against and damage its neutral to. K corp guards, for example, are weak to blunt. Of course, abnormality fights mostly operate on sin resistances, rather than damage types, but for regular encounters, building a team around doing specific damage type can wreck through enemy thats weak to it. Extra so if you pack AOE EGO of that type (Representation Emitter is very good)
thank you for uploading this at 1 in the morning on a school night, i can sleep peacefully
the charon part stings far more with leviathan in mind
A good place for a stopping point, you're also getting more ID's that are great for Rupture.
Also yes, the daily pull with paid lunacy is very high value, especially when you're just starting out and lack most of the ID's & EGO's.
It's also nice seeing someone familiar the Orchestra reference after seeing so many new people come into the franchise with Limbus as their first iteration into the series!
Neat little thing with your EGO's by the way, just like how ID's get a new splash art at Uptie 3, they get their proper background upon use. I hope we get to see your reaction to some of them once you uptie your new EGO's! Or your first experience with Corrosion if you have seen any of that yet!
Youre now in Canto III! Youll need to start settling your ids now, and luxcavations will become your best friend, so use the mirror dungeons to test new ids and see who youll uptie and level up
quick note: pequod yi sang turns into a beast in upt4, specially in MD with ego gifts stacking. His skill two is the highlight, reusing a coin up to 3 times when hitting a critical
The difficulty spike is vertical now.
Let's it begin.
Of note, for team building, The first units in the team are the ones to get more move slots earlier
He knows
Oh yeah, fun fact about Red Eyes Open - it's got a 2 aoe weight, at uptie 3 it gets 3 slots worth of aoe - that's its main benefit. Also it's got some healing related stuff, it's ideally designed around her Chef ID that also does some funny healing stuff.
Oh wow we're starting the episode off strong, I see. Alright, time for some reviews~
LCCB Assistant Manager Ishmael:
A tremor and rupture-focused ID. Her clashing power has a bit to be desired, but it scales off of the amount of Tremor an enemy has- If they have plenty on them, her skills become significantly better at clashing. Normally, this would be a nothing-effect due to the fact that there is just about nothing that applies Tremor, but... LCCB Ishmael's skill 2 is actually really, stupidly good at applying Tremor. Better yet, the last coin on her skill inflicts 5 Fragile. FIVE. That's 50% more damage for your entire team! The only downside is that she's slower than average, meaning you'll struggle to make the absolute most of it, but she's pretty solid!
Deici Association South Section 4 Yi Sang:
A Discard ID that inflicts Sinking. This Yi Sang is a Tank ID, as Insight is a... weirdly dumb effect that gives you a lot of Shield when you use it correctly. The sinking output he gives has a bit to be desired, unfortunately, but he clashes pretty alright and is tanky enough that losing clashes isn't much of an issue. Even if you do lose a clash, he inflicts a bit of sinking to the enemy, meaning that you're that little bit more likely to win a clash in the future against that enemy. Pretty nice, all things considered.
Holiday (Outis):
This EGO is hilarious. And, shockingly enough, pretty good. At Threadspin 1, it rolls a 20 at minimum and a 31 at maximum, meaning it's unlikely to ever lose clashes. While the Tremor Burst is... meh, the extra damage she gives your team and the 20SP heal are very, very good. SP EGOs are pretty few and far between, and this gives you something other than Representation Emitter to rely on. The passive of this EGO is... whatever, it's basically the same as Gregor where 1 out of 5 status conditions are slapped onto the enemy.
9:2 (Faust):
9:2 is an interesting EGO. On paper, it's really good on burn teams since it inflicts a maximum of 10 Defense Level Down (Which basically makes the enemy more fragile), but it comes with a bit of an issue. It costs Gluttony. If you run a Liu-based Burn Team (which is basically the only thing you can really do), you will have practically no Gluttony support, meaning that this EGO is practically unusable. Outside of that, it clashes pretty alright and at higher Threadspin tiers can become AoE depending on how much Lust Resonance you have.
Effervescent Corrosion (Hong Lu):
A rupture and bind-focused EGO. The rupture it inflicts is whatever, feasibly speaking Gluttony is unlikely to ever get high enough to where the amount of Rupture you're applying will go beyond 2, but the Bind is actually pretty alright. Speed control is the name of the game for a lot of hard content, and this lets you do it without relying on Crows Eye View or another Base EGO, meaning you have options. It's kind of pricy, but all in all it's... fine. Not superb, but definitely has its uses.
I hadn’t looked into Holiday prior, *wow.*
I guess it kinda had to be good to keep up with Ebony Stem, but regardless, wow.
Should also be noted that pretty much this entire canto is blunt weak so dieci yi yang and LCCB ish are going to punch above their usual weight.
The problem with Effervescent Corrosion is that, in basically every scenario, it's flat-out worse than Hong Lu's other HE E.G.O., Dimension Shredder. When it was originally revealed, it was TETH, and accepted as basically tailor-made for K-Corp Hong Lu - and discarded when it's grade was shifted. However much you invest (or don't) into Effervescent Corrosion, it'll be shelved and never seen again when the gatcha almighty blesses thee with Dimension Shredder.
Oh yeah, since your base IDs are UT3 now, you can UT4 them. Don't bother unless you really like them. Same with Threadspin 4 base EGOs, with a maybe for Ryoshu (if building a burn team) and Don (though flipping head never was her problem to begin with).
I think you can really put together a good rupture team!
Nah rupture is kinda hard to get together
This lucky guy...
When you have a clash you probably wont win, and you cant use an EGO, it might be better to use a defense skill
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BTW, for what I can remember LCCB Ryoshu also does Rupture.
You cannot escape the Silent Orchestra's reference.
Your limbus video is so addicting 😋😍
It does burn me a bit to see an un-uptied Hong W (my favorite identity) being used. At this point, it's probably better to use the LCB sinners over OO identities that haven't been uptied to stage 3.
Pov:what happens when your ids are under leveled
Thanks for the vid! May your pulls be great in the future.
You got one of the best two star ish identities
Low bar tbh.
@@wymarsane7305 Not really. A lot of people underestimate 2 stars
Thou art big brain, sir.
It's worth pointing out the Vergilius and Charon scene hits a little harder if you've read Leviathan, since that takes place between Ruina and Limbus. 👍
You know, after what was said in the beginning of canto 3, the whole community realized that we actually know the order of the next chapters, because of something that happened in Selva Oscura (canto 0).
Like, it's so fucking obvious that everyone thought that project moon was just trolling us, but no, they actually did say the canto orders right there.
it's also the order the sinners were originally introduced in when the limbus twitter was first made, like a year before the game release, it's never been a secret lol
@@aceisawesome_ yeah, it wasn't a secret, but I remember the bunch of silly discussions about "the order is gonna be this" "the order isn't that" "blahblahblah" and then the full stop after chapter 3.
That was a pretty funny time in the fandom
Quite a lot of people might call LCCB Ish mediocre - and sure, her clashing is weak and will suffer in later content - but for Canto 3 specifically I think she's great. Not only is she both resistant to blunt and deals only blunt damage - amazing for Canto 3 - but also, hey, she's a token part of the teams that people use to speedrun stuff using Rupture.
The one problem she has with rupture is that her skill 1 and 2 inflict none, only eat it up, but her skill 3 is great at applying it in a burst. Also she's decently tanky. The Ishmael 000 units are surely generally better, but hey, those are both more rare to get and more expensive to uptie!
LCCB Ish now, ey~? A lovely addition to the Rupture team! With this, you have the framework for a pretty good Rupture team now! Well, you've had a good frame ever since you got Lantern Don and 7Heath.
7Heath, Lantern Don, LCCB Ish and Ryoshu, all four can be pretty good with maintaining Rupture Count (for the latter two, you're gonna have to use their 3rd Skills, which rely on their limited Ammo). Talisclair can pretty handily keep up the Potency pretty high too, with all the Talismans; you also have the flow of it down pretty nicely too~
With this specific team, you can fuel their EGOs quite well too. The only Sin Affinity you'll be missing is Sloth, which you could choose to either fill in with a 6th teammate if available or just leave alone, considering nobody on this team has an any EGOs that need it (aside from Outis if you decide to run her, but you could just run her Base ID which has sloth to patch it up).
I hope the rolls get even better next time. A pretty good combo of a specific Outis ID and Outis HE-tier EGO (and its passive) would be immaculate for your Rupture team~
Dunno if mentioned before,,but when doing thread lux, do both dificulties as they give lunacy for first time clear
and so, the REAL ligma company experience begins
You should use defense skills, also, talisman sinclairs support passive is what gives talismans
don moment!!!!!!!!!
you might want to build your team around enemy's weakness starting now, it'll help you get the EX clear easier
Nice
51:08
let's actually see...
Don has 30 sp, gaurd has 12
so chance of heads for Don: 80%
chance of heads for gaurd: 62%
the 1 coin skill wins if and only if gaurd rolls low, you roll high, which has a probability of 0.8×0.38=30.4%
let's take a look at the 3 coin skill: it wins if the gaurd rolls low and you roll at least 1 coin
if you're left in a situation with just one coin left after losing 2 clashes in a row, your chance of success still is 30.4%, so overall it's better
but for the sake of actually seeing how much better it is, let's calculate the probability:
if we have 2 coins left, we have a 0.62+0.38×0.2^2=63.52% chance to lose one clash: either the gaurd rolls high, or the gaurd rolls low and we roll all tails
the probability to lose the whole clash once you have 2 coins left is then 44.20992% since you'd have to lose the next clash as well
similarly, if we have 3 coins left, 0.62+0.38×0.2^3=62.304% chance to lose one clash and a 27.5445485% chance to lose the whole thing
so... an 72.5% chance to win
and that means that either my calculations are completely and utterly wrong, or the game doesn't calculate winrate properly or the game only shows the probability for the first clash (around 37.7%), which actually does seem to allign with the arrow overpowering ratio
huh, neat
It does indeed only show the probability for yhe first clash. This also causes the game to show a lot of Hopeless odds on negative coin IDs because they always clash worst before losing coins.
@@wymarsane7305 good to know, wish there was a "poper" calculation tho, not like it's hard to implement
EGO jumpscare
waiting for 7 faust