Ryzen 7700 Vs. i5-13600K - AMD's Best 7000 Series Chip YET! (
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- The Ryzen 7 7700 is a home run! It has a great profile out of the box. is VERY EFFICIENT, and most importantly comes with the wraith prism cooler. It couples nicely ... the list goes on...
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00:00 Why the Ryzen 7 7700 is the best of the 7000 series
02:40 Different test setups used, DDR5-4800 vs DDR5-6000.
03:08 Gaming Benchmarks 1080p, 1440p and 4k, Shadow of the Tomb Raider
03:41 Power Consumption whilst gaming.
04:18 Horizon Zero Dawn
04:36 Something I do on all my CPUs when I benchmark in 2023.
05:07 Cyberpunk 2077
05:23 some very surprising numbers for CS GO!
06:03 FPS per dollar, good value CPU for high end gaming. Power profile and included cooler is great.
06:41 Productivity numbers, Cinebench R23, 7 zip, Geek Bench 5, C 1.3, Vray and premiere pro. Firestrike physics benchmark.
07:48 iGPU comparison, Ryzen 7 7700 vs i5-13600K, Intel does have an advantage here with quicksync.
08:24 Ryzen 7 7700 conclusion, AMD's hidden Gem, considering DDR5 and motherboard costs are finally coming down.
10:23 i5-13600K vs Ryzen 7 7700, which one would I go with?
11:17 Question of the Day Busted Ryzen CPU, 30 bent pins, any more hints on how to fix?
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Let us know your thoughts on the Ryzen 7 7700, especially vs the X, which would you prefer and why?
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The "new" Ryzen non-X are just sleightly worse binned CPUs to their X counterparts. The major difference is just that they use Eco-Mode/88W out of the box.
BOTH CPUs X and non-X have the same efficiency, only the X boosts so high, they lose that efficiency. You can actually tune ANY Ryzen 7xx0X CPUs the same way.
For MOST people the non-X are better as they are also cheaper. But using the Wraith cooler can limit its performance.
Personally i hate running CPUs too hot or wasting too much power. I use UV as often as i can.
I also downclocked/UV'd my 5950X, because it was running too hot and used too much power on the Desktop (it was bugged, it ran the boost all the time, even near idle).
Later i switched to a 5800X3D, when it was cheap. That one is running with PBO Curve on -30.
I'd choose the 7700 over the X. But seeing in the EU there is almost no difference in price between the two (and my 5800X is still more than enough): neither.
7700 > 7700x for sure, but free ram from Microcenter helps w/ price on X w/ undervolting
40-60W testing of cpus please, need to see which CPU is most efficient for gaming at lower wattages
pls just try allcore oc on this cpu 👍👍👍
Thats a lotta 7s!
Pair it with an RX 7700 and an HD 7770 for more 7 goodness!
You mean i7-7700K.
Yes. And God blessed the 7th day Sabbath and commanded us to rest on that day
I love the 7
7700x plus 7700xt
Great review. It helped me confirm my build choice of the Asrock Riptide B650E ATX board and AMD 7700. The idea of a lower power setup using an included cooler while not giving up much performance is a definite win for me. Thank You.
You using any gpu? Or only processor?
Finally someone actually did consider using cheap memory and board for review... Thanks for the awesome information.... Ddr5 6000 are overpriced in my region... Costs 300$+ for cl40 memory....
How about DDR5 5600mhz? I heard its the sweetspot.
what are you talking about. just got 48Gb DDR 5 7000Mhz for $210 Ram has become so cheap its stupid.
@@Factsfun-kg4xcwhich brand?
@@buckybarnes4097 corsair
@@BravoSixGoingDark 5600mhz is only like 2% slower than 6000mz .In my country 4800mhz ,5600mhz and 6400mhz ddr5 ram available.5600mhz cost half of 6400mhz ram.
Thank you for testing 4800mts ram! After seeing the difference in performance difference I'm going to get a cheap kit and upgrade it later when the prices look more like ddr4 does today
Love this channel. Keep it up!
Another great video Bryan keep up the great videos..
great video. i agree on everything you said, and that don't happen a lot.. but i might be biased since i own a 7700, however i chose it because of the price and i didn't have to spend extra on a cpu cooler and could then use more on the gpu... which i think reviewers don't mention often when compairing cpu prices. i know it's not an expensive cooler, the wraith, but it's value for money none the less..
That just happens to be the exact paring of CPU & motherboard that I'm saving up for. It's nice to know about the Ram, thank you, that'll save a few more bucks I can put into a better PSU.
Thanks for the 5800x3d review Bryan.
For bending pins back on a Ryzen CPU, I've found that a flat razor blade works wonders. The blade fits perfectly through a row of pins. You just gently run the blade across the row of pins east/west, and then north/south.
If there's an actual bend on a pin, the best way to straighten them out is to partially insert the CPU into the socket and close the lever. And keep doing that until the processor just drops into the socket, as it should.
My old Ryzen 5 3600, it twice had it's pins bent. The first time I straightened them out (not with a flat razor, and not using the socket to straighten pins) , the chip worked, but it had a dead memory channel. When I decided to change out the thermal paste, the chip and cooler pulled out again, and the pins were in much, much worse shape, That's when I used the flat razor, and the socket to straighten the pins, and all of a sudden, the second memory channel came back to life, and that chip has worked great ever since,.
I used a good set of tweezers haha I dropped my first ryzen cpu and bent a whole corner of the pins and I just took my time and lined em up as best I could then used the socket on mother board and door slowly after I got them very close to perfect it at first had to be set into the socket and slightly pushed in after one time it would fall in on its own… haha was a relief I was so use to lga CPUs I wasn’t thinking at all and dropped it the second I took it out of its plastic protector haha… good times
Nah... a syringe needle is the best!
I hate how the coolers can rip CPU out of the socket.. I've gotten in the habit of pushing down and twisting now when removing the cooler to stop that happening... So far so good lol
Yes but first heat the cpu pins with hairdryer so they are softer and you won't break them off
I use a needle. Slide between the pins.
Well described, as always.👍
🤠 Thanks for the review, i'll pick it up when its on a deep sale, i really like that oem cooler
for Ryzen AM4 pin problem, you could check out the cpu pin layout and its function, some pin are used for ground and audio passthrough or video output (if it is apu), losing these pin may not make your cpu completely "die"
Can you post some bechmark results comparing FPS with the Core Isolation setting off and on to give us an idea of how much of a performance difference there is? Or at least a rough estimation from your experience? Like 1%, 7%, 38%, 85%?
Hey Brian, can you make a video benchmarking core isolation with a couple of games?
so far i've had a great experience with the chip so far. I'm running a suboptimal case and fan set up yet my new setup has been extremely stable. and running only 10 20 degrees hotter under load. from newer games. definetly a good buy.
intresting and good to see that the 7000 series is less picky with memory. Tho it is fun to get the max out a 3000 serie chip by setting every memory timing to get that 0-10% perfomance extra, it's also a huge pain.
luv ya vids brian
Hi there
Which one do you recommend to play and stream on same time at least 3 years upcoming
Memory Integrity is just a feature of Core Isolation but turning OFF the Memory Integrity doesn't mean you automatically stop the Core Isolation. There are some cases that even if turn off the Memory Integrity then the Core Isolation is still active. If you want to turn off completely the option Core Isolation just go to bios and disable the Virtualization but if you have some emulators that's not an option you want to disable. Also, I did a lot of fresh Win11 22H2 installs and the option Memory Integrity is OFF by default every time and then Win11 starts to send you notifications to enable Memory Integrity manually because of security reasons.
I'd love to see a video about undervolting for GPU's and CPU's the do's and don'ts just some general pointers as to what you can expect. I have been thinking about undervolting my RTX 3080 to cut down on the power consumption.
Thanks,
Love the videos.
The alternative is to power limit them which achieves similar results as regards efficiency. I did this with a GTX 1080, worked very well. Also did it with my 5600X, setting a 75W package limit dropped all-core performance by 10% but it *halved* the peak power consumption, while single-core performance still remained strong as PBO was still active.
@mapesdhs Yeah, I already have a power limit to 80% using afterburner, mostly because a 3080 is overkill for my current monitor. I'm more just curious of the difference tbh 😆
Hi Bryan. Would you be willing to see how high the 7700 can overclock? I would like to see the quality of the silicon vs. the 7700x. I have mine clocked at 5.3 GHz @ 1.215 volts. Thank you.
Hey brain got a banger of a deal for you. I picked up a amd sapphire rx 580 8gb for 45 euro checked it out before I cleaned it made it half way through havens benchmark before my system just shut off cleaned the gpu the tech yes way new pads paste and drivers and boom running like a champ.
The Wraith Prism cooler is a nice inclusion with that processor. If you're not doing anything extreme with the 7700 you should be fine. Nonetheless, that cooler has never had a great reputation for having wonderful performance. If someone truly wants an air solution, I would suggest moving to the DeepCool AK620 or Scythe Fuma 2. Granted, you will spend more money, but you're getting a better product.
defenitely if u want to tdp unlock it like on Linustechtips
My god. Its like buying another cooler is worth it since.... forever
@@mikeymaiku Yes... pretty much forever. That Wraith Prism was never an answer to AMD's higher cost CPU's. It's benchmarks were consistently terrible.
@@zingwilder9989 As a stock cooler its great , AMD should be including those with all the 65 watts parts
@@adi6293 Agreed. As a stock cooler it is very good, for 65 Watt CPU's. Again, providing that they are not overtaxed.
Question of the day Bryan I have a Ryzen 7 3700x on a srock B550 ITX board in a Thermaltake ITX V1 snow case but was wondering what budget AIO cooler would you recommend or even a air cooler if you think 1 is worthy plus what is a good GPU to couple with this for a good 1080P gaming experience on the most intense games as of 2023. Lets be honest most teenage Gamers don't have the money to spend on a computer monitor etc etc to play in 1440P and 4k.
Great bang for the buck! Also, great video as usual! ;)
If you want to hit the sweetspot of 6000MTs ram get the 32gb kingston fury 6000 expo cl36-38-38-96.
Those are single rank hynix a die and run at 30-36-36-76 at 1.35v even 4x16 at 6000MTs with a Gigabyte X670 Elite AX 7950X
Sweet spot is STILL DDR4
@@tilapiadave3234 nah, even the most basic DDR5 4800 already beats good DDR4 kits, and if you're going to buy an expensive 3200 CL 14 kit that could beat the basic DDR5 you're probably best buying a good DDR5 instead.
@@RafitoOoO WRONG ,, best educate yourself before making FOOL of yourself
@@tilapiadave3234 for Budget gaming? Sure. DDR5 for productivity tho
@@vincentvega3093 Agree. The balance of when DDR5 becomes the better option is constantly changing ,, every week DDR5 get's less expensive and is better utilized ,,, it is very near the tipping point now.
Good afternoon! I'd like to ask one question about r7 7700 cooling! Would you buy separate cooler for that CPU, for example fera 5? instead of using box cooler? fera 5 costs in finland like 31 euros, so i think that i feel more comfortable with that than box cooler! does this make any sense?
Could you please review the non-X 7900 too? Because it's my potential favorite, I don't know which one to choose yet...
could we get a ryzen over the years performance roundup vid? would love to know how the old chips stack up against the new
Throw the 13600k in there to show how AMD has been SMASHED
0:05 But did you try the 7900 (none X) yet, that thing is a MONSTER when you undervolt and MAX OC the RAM.
What kind of thermals do you get with the 7700 and Wraith Prism with gaming? Is it sufficient?
Wish tray/oem sales were still popular. Would be good to get the 7700 at a slight discount without the cooler which I would just replace anyway
Was thinking what to build on a budget and upgrade later, and honestly, decided to get solid B550 board 16gigs of 3600mhz cl 16, and a 5600, it will cost some 340€ here in Europe, that's 360$ its a bit pricy here, always was, but ill upgrade too a X3D at some point, me and the wife are planning a baby so i need to watch my spending :D
What do you think of r5 7600 ?!
Is this cpu going to be fully utilized in years to come because of the 6cores !!!
I got the 7700x for 140 euros in a sale , Beast of a CPU with a AIO and the B650 getting 75c maxed out temp wise, Very happy
140 Euros what are you dreaming ?
The best part is the Wraith Prism, given that the cpu is only 65w, that is a good cooler to come along with.
It is not 65W. Don't fall for AMDs lies.
You have to multiply any Ryzen TDP with 1,35. It is a 88W CPU.
And depending on the mainboard you use, it may take even more power. Without any changes by the user.
Edit: You can even see that in the video 1:29, where it runs at 90W.
You have been mislead. Both red and blue team CPU official TDP rating does not reflect real power consumption . This R7 7700 real power consumption is 89W, with PBO enabled, it jumps to 138W .
@@fleurdewin7958 okay still better than 13600k 🤣
Use wilkinson razor blade to straighten pins, you can straighten a few pins at a time , use blade in 2 directions don't mes around with weird angles. slowly and look and repeat. And dont even start unless you have it under microscope or a webcam, zoomed in monitor works well.
The die cover on it looks awesome
My workflow is Photoshop,Illustrator and After effects heavy.
Which one shouldI get?
My current build is i3 8100+ 2x8GB 3200MHZ Ram.
which one will be more efficient and budget friendly for me?
Not sure if this is still doable, but back in the day (Pentium, 486, etc), the best way to safely bend them back, was getting a mechanical pencil, with empty barrell. That was normally a snug enough fit over pins to safely bend back to perpendicular.
Do I pair R7 7700 + B650 for 100$ cheaper (in my country) than the i5-13600K + B760 for 4K 10-bit video editing? I heard the performance between 7700 & 7700X is not much & I'm tight on budget. Will I be able to edit smoothly on it? I'm gonna be gaming & doing video editing on it about 45/55 of the time.
Interesting, Still wondering how X3D launch will go.
About 8 cores CPUs : It is gonna be enough in a near future for gaming ? I play mostly intensive sim games and I'm a bit worried that in 3~4 or 5 years, simulation games will really need more than 8 cores. Some advice ?
It’ll be at least a decade before 8 cores will be insufficient for games. Most games are GPU bound, not CPU bound.
If you're going to upgrade to that socket I would definitely wait until the 3D version comes out. I'm sure it would be a really great chip.
yea i cant believe how much difference more l3 cache makes
It'll run at 1000 celsius so you can bake bread
Just wait till you see the price... If people thought the 7xxx series chip on release date was expensive. Just wait till the X3D version comes out. I am all for a MOBO platform to last long, but at what cost? You can only future proof for so long?
Definitely looking at the 3D CPUs myself…. However it appears they may only be about 15% faster than the 5800X3D in gaming which doesn’t sound like much 😳😱….. I guess time and benchmarks will tell the truth on the matter 😇👍.
@@fpshooterful I don't own a toaster but my oven does the job I don't need a 3D GPU from AMD
What a weird looking Xeon
Almost a Xeon .
Still one / two Xeons left with better value along with certain features .
@@yasirrakhurrafat1142 for example?
@@FirstnameLastname-py3bc
E5-2696 v3 ( 18 cores ) and e5-2678 v3 ( 12 cores ) .
Both can use ddr3/ecc .
If you find cheap x99 with ddr3 slots .
You could have a ton of pcie lanes , ton of cheap memory .
And a shitonne of cores if you go dual socket .
@@yasirrakhurrafat11422696v3 supports DDR3? Oh wow, I have one dual 2673v3 server - that would be massive upgrade, massive
@@FirstnameLastname-py3bc you'll need the ddr3 supported motherboard tho ..
Honestly , the ddr3 quad channel support of the xeons pretty much rivals ddr4 .
But yeah ! You pretty much have more horsepower in your PC than a threadripper 2950wx .
And more than a 10900k per processor .
Kudo's for also including the standard cooler in the tests.. many n people still would like tio use the standard cooler.
Myself e.g. have a aio on my gaming m,achine, but use the prism cooler on my office applications and youtube machine next to it.
The new 7700 is great but I couldn't believe how the 5800x3D is keeping up and it's cost for AM4 users like me.
Great work and as always to the point 👍🔥
5800X3D , WAY over-priced EXTREMELY overhyped SHILL cpu
It really is great! Love my 5800x3d ❤
@@tilapiadave3234lol no
@@hadifelani LOL ,, :)
@@tilapiadave3234 agreed.
damn this thing is on fire.
Thanks for the review. Would love to see budget builds feature a more "realistic" GPU, like a 3060 , since that seems to be the most popular GPU according to Steam. Anyway, thanks again.
You mean 1060
If you saw my comment
do you recommend me to go with 7700x or 13600k with rtx 4070ti?
Pretty cool video thank you!
13600K better 🩵
Great video, I just wish you had included a budget GPU in the benchmarks. I say that because if I get a RTX 4090, I would also have a high end CPU and motherboard with it. I know the low end new AMD or Nvidia latest generation are not out yet, but it would be nice to see how this CPU performs with last generation budget GPUs? Basically can it out perform an AMD 7800X3D with a RTX 3060Ti?
that's I need to see! because I dont know what to by for my 3060ti... 5800x3d or i5 13600kf? also need benchmarks on warzone 2.0, fortnite on competitive settings to see with what cpu we will get more fps....
@@PsYVla What you just said, and should I wait and see what the AM5 X3D CPUs can do?
@@PsYVla ryzen 5 this generation or next generation should be fine Intel 13600 should be fine to but it will consume alot more power and therefor generate alot more heat. Which is why I personally skip it. I'm waiting for newer generation gpus to crash the market and for decently prices and good build quality motherboards to come to the market
What I will probably go for myself but this could take a while
Ryzen 7 7700 8 core (x3d is all cool but super pointless if you do not have the gpu to utilise it)
New AMD 70 series hoping they come to the market soon and offer decent power usage
6000mhz memory recommended by AMD (especially so your research on the ram RAM timings very alot hardware unboxed makes alot of content regarding this aswell learn from them :D
Gold rated quality cpu or better with enough headroom for the gpu and cpu
And the rest is pretty much not important hope it helps
But you eaallt can't go wrong pairing newer generation ryzen 5 with 3060ti probably 3070 to
Just make sure to do your research as those parts I did list vary alot in quality especially the memory is super hard to pick funny enough using terms like cl14 cl16 and cl18 do your research on this :D
@@stolemycoconut5448 I already buy 3060ti but my 5600x doesn't do the best I have not stable FPS like 1% lows is like 50fps but I have 360fps average, maybe need better ram memory kit to buy for now and wait a better times for upgrade cpu, mobo etc... IDK
@@mj1s735 what bro I jus ask for benchmarks of games who people plays only competitive games and want high fps for high refresh rate monitors... and also not only highest fps but also stable...
I know that is more then one factor for stable fps but I cant find video comparison for warzone 2.0, fortnite, valorant, overwatch, Apex...
Very interesting numbers you got…
is it good for streaming?
when comes out the custom windows???thanks
Great review.
I wonder how relevant are productivity benchmarks when less than 1% of PC owners run apps like Cinebench. I mean, it's interesting but probably not an argument for choosing a CPU. The 14 cores of the 13600K are useless for 99% of PC owners.
What a stupid comment.
Doesn't really matter when (at the same price point) the 13600K still performs similarly to the 7700X in gaming, and even slightly edges it out in single-threaded workloads. The E-cores are essentially "free" and provide benefits for prosumers even if they just occasionally do production workloads. Like seriously-who is going to complain about having more cores for the money? Lol
@@steph_on_yt I do have a 13600K and I'm not complaining! Intel is counting on those E-core to make a big difference in benchmark but it's not doing that much in reality for 99% of PC users. It's a bit misleading from a marketing point of view. It reminds me of the "pixel war" between Canon and Nikon. This camera has more pixels so it must be better. It was not the case.
@Robert R. I have a 12600K myself. I've noticed that the E-cores help a little bit for background tasks and occasional multithreaded workloads (decompression & transcoding). For pure gamers though, it might be better to just buy a vanilla 6/8-core CPU. Though, it's still nice to know that I have a bit of extra multithreaded grunt when needed.
How much water, where is the temperature?
I would like to upgrade from the 10700f to one of this two. I am a web designer and looking into blender. Which one of this two would be a better fit. If the lga 1700 is just for the 12. To 14. Gen I consider keeping my ddr4 and getting mb plus 13600k.
what will be real interesting is if Intels does a tick/tock meaning keep the design of current circuits but on smaller more efficient dies so their power draw drops. Of course AMD will shrink again and go faster per watt as well plus the 3d cache inclusion around the corner. I'm using intel LITTLE big cpu for work but AMD home on system, 5800x.
I tend to go for a Budget but slightly higher end, I'm Currently running an ASRock PG Velocita with a 5900X and a XFX 6800XT, And before that it was an ASRock Taichi X370.. But if I was to but a motherboard now a days I would have to spend $250 but no more than $300 though, Motherboards and there features for their time period are important are important to me.. There's just certain stuff I can't cheap out on.. But I usually only do a new build every 5/7 years anyway with Maybe a GPU up grade in between.. I think that's how a lot of PPL do it.. But they say don't cheap out on the PSU and but really we shouldn't cheap out on to much of anything if you want a PC that last's longer than 7 years. Like M.2 and SSD drives are things I see PPL Techtuber's even cheap out on all the time. I love this this content and get what Brian's about.. Even the Monitor you use matter's much now Because of HDR and there's HDR and Then There's real HDR.. LOL.. Real HDR costs like a $1000 and up.. I've been looking at this BenQ 32" it's 600 Nit's it has all the Bells and whistles and that is $1000.. I don't want to buy the wrong thing at that price so I keep holding off..
Is it necessary to have a AIO for the ryzen 7700?
Awesome.
slide a credit card along between the pins in the row helps to straighten them if they're not super bent
Is the i5 really a better option for productivity? Buying a dead platform for a few % in premiere? Spending 80$ more an go with AM5 and the 7900 should be more future proof. Or I miss a point?
The thing is, the Ryzen 7 should compete with the i7-13700K (and 12700K?), not i5. Intel Core i5 and Ryzen 7 are so much faster than AMD's equivalents that using platform as an argument is a moot point.
@@saricubra2867 AMD users cant afford to purchase motherboards every few years, and the whole dEaD pLaTfOrM argument is all they got because they're mad about the 13600k's performance.
I am going to wait until at least one more gen of cpus release on AM5 before upgrading. I want to see how the new 3D chips perform. For now my 5700x will handle my needs just fine. I love 65 watt tdp cpus!
based off the performance of the 5800X3D, the 3D 7000 chips are going to break the cpu market. Intel has to have something HUGE up their sleeve or they're in big trouble.
@@DemonSaine yeah i love competition because its great for the consumers! I will bide my time and jump in when it seems right
@@Bdot888 I just recently upgraded to a 5900x from a 3600 so I'm gonna be set for the next 7 years I'm in no rush
@@DemonSaine yeah thats more than enough for years to come! 5000 series was a great last gen for AM4 and i will stick on the platform for a while longer and let AM5 mature a little bit more and get cheaper in prices
@@Bdot888 exactly, these cpus are more than enough and I luckily got mine for $300 including taxes brand new. I undervolted it to 4.2ghz @1.065V and temps never go above 53c even during heavy usage when rendering in after effects. I even disable 4 of the cores sometimes to mimic what it would've been like if I upgraded to the 5800X instead and honestly there are only small differences here and there. The 5900X was just priced so well so I went with the safer more future proof option instead and have no regrets since I can just pretend like I have a 5800X sometimes lmao and I got it for way cheaper than even the 5800x costed at the time
Please review the Erying i9 11th gen motherboard with embeded cpu from Aliexpress
I am waiting on going to a 7700 when the rdna 33 comes out RX7700 and gen 5 ssd m.2 which still seem elusive ( I wonder why, too hot perhaps)
I'm personally eyeing up the 7600.
Are the motherboards actually dropping in price? Locally the b650s have been stuck with the same price since mid december
They’re not. They’re releasing A620 and keeping the prices high hoping the performance of the x3d chips entices buyers to fork over the motherboard prices
@@ryanespinoza7297 I wouldn't call that dropping in price then. Besides, AMD already said board would start and $125 when they launched AM5 and literally 0 boards went that low. Besides, aren't the A boards super super cut down?
@@bleack8701 A series motherboards don’t support overclocking. Unfortunately boards aren’t lowering any time soon. Best hope is to buy the cpu on sale to recoup the motherboard cost. On the positive side, you will have support for all am5 down the line for 3 more generations
@@bleack8701 I couldn't do it, I bought a 6/12 core CPU in 2014. To update my CPU 9 years later just to buy another 6/12 felt wrong. Thus I bought 13600k
when will you review i5 13500?
yes my fellow PC and Bleach tech/anime tuber 😁
i need high single core for some games, would a 7600x be better since it has a base clock of 4.7? only problem is no stock cooler for 7600x so i'd probably end up close in price to a 7700
Which graphics card your gonna use with it.
Hmm fair review
How about comparing 7600 & 7700 with 13400 & 13500 . Please try
X3D gonna be amazing
Hi I only bought this one because Intel change socket each year, because it runs 4k120 on the go and it comes with a free decent cooler.
The 1700 "secure frame" works. Now i see that there is an AM5 secure frame. Whout it be a benefit of not poluting the AM5 heatshield hoes with thermal paste? Is it worth the money or is it dangerous?
Are we missing the point with power efficiency? Yes the Ryzen 7000 is more power efficient than Intel 13xxx under full load, BUT the Intel is much more efficient at idle. Since we spend much more time in idle in real world usage, it seems the Intel wins overall. This point was raised on the Tech Notice channel in the video "Intel & AMD both lied ....". Would love to get your thoughts on this.
Here’s me still a 2700X enjoyer 😊 I just don’t need to upgrade 😊
im still using x5690 xeon + gtx 1070. if i have a limited budget which should i upgrade first? cpu or gpu?
im currently gaming at 1080p.. but planning to move to 2k in future.
any suggestions?
cpu dude its freaking slow, my 13600K is about 66% faster in just games.
@@nivea878 thx for your input.. already bought 7700 + 7900xtx. 💪
get that cpu, pair it with the same mobo but the B650E edition (riptide wifi) and 5600 cl 36 ram that you can easily push up to 6000 cl 32, there you get a good budget now/future proof build.
Looks great but with my (fictional)
~600$ budget i dream of upgrading to Ryzen 7 5700x, currently on I5-4th gen :D
I have an AMD Wraith Prism cooling my R7-5800X3D, a CPU that runs hotter than the R7-7700. It works just fine and is just stunning to look at. The Wraith Prism is why I always recommend the R7-7700 to anyone looking to build a new PC. What puzzles me is the fact that most tech-tubers tend to ignore it despite how amazing it is in both performance and value.
Faster RAM is never worth it for gaming if you have to pay a steep premium for it. It's the difference between "good" and "good enough".
Really interested in how this chip compares to 7800x3d, Microcenter still has their free ram promotion w/ the 7700x which you can undervolt.
7800X3D will still have the bad issues of the 5800X3D ,, 7900X3D looks interesting with only one set of cores being covered by the 3D
Please please make video on Ryzen7 7700 with A620m thanks from Amd house Pakistan
Do the new amd cpu stutter in windows media player, I had 5800x and 5900x and both stutter playing videos in windows media player, while my 11600k plays it just fine, os was win 11 in all systems
I thought i would make a mistake going for this cpu but it turned out great.
I had a 7700X in my cart around this time for my new build, but luckily did some more digging and found this one just before checking out. It was a good deal cheaper at that time, not including the fact that it comes with a cooler. I love this CPU.
I can get here: MicroCenter
- AMD Ryzen 7 7700X = $347.99 or AMD Ryzen 7 7900X = $417.99
- G.Skill Flare X5 Series 32GB 2 x 16GB) DDR5-6000 (free inclued)
- Gigabyte B650M AORUS Elite AX = $179.99
good deal or wait 7xxx3D?
What about faster ram though ? Isnt faster ram on Intel better?
For gaming only I would be 100% fine with 6 cores for many years to come but I do stream ocasionally with RTX 2070 Super and when you stream on a single pc you want to have a headroom for OBS, Spotify, Discord and all other aps running in the backgroud and for that 8 cores is more useful and more futureproof. When you stream with Nvenc on a single pc, you use gpu mostly but not only. It puts extra load on a processor as well actually. Just running Discord in the backgroud while streaming can mess up framerate completly in some cases. Ryzen 7700 is very pricy though so I consider i5-13500 as well. I could get 7700 if it's price would drop by about 50-100 Euro but what are odds of that happening in upcoming months? Hmm..
hey what did you go for? i have the exact same questions as you regarding streaming and such. i want to get the 7600 but now im thinking of the 7700 because of the cores so im able to stream
Actually the iGPU of ryzen 7000 should have pretty decent hardware encoding & decoding capabilities. AV1 decode included.
another bonus is that u can enable pbo, that will throw the efficiency gains out the window but will compete a lot more with the 13600k in productivity tasks and will most likely still be more efficient than it.
"more efficient than it"
lmao.
@@saricubra2867 i said that 7700 would still be more efficient than the 13600k even with pbo enabled. I dont see whats so funny😅
@@saricubra2867ryzen chips has always been the more power efficient chips. 🤷♂️
You're the joke here. 💀
@@hadifelani TechNotice youtuber showed on productivity benchmarks that Intel CORE has better lightly threaded efficency than AMD Ryzen thanks to Big-Little, games are also lightly threaded, so that scales pretty well.
For perfomance per watt for iddle with maximum, Intel wins. Specially the i5-12600K, i5-13600K and the i7-12700K (which i own).
Tom's Hardware showed the i7-12700K beating the i5-12600K for watts consumed per fps at 720p resolution.
@@saricubra2867 only by a little means nothing actually. And you only looking at intel vs intel power efficiency (insert joke here). 🤷♂️
Furthermore, it only applies on the desktop market, and if you take account of the laptop market. Intel still have a long way to go about their power consumption while on battery. Take a look at Jarrod's Tech channel.
maybe pair it with a bigger psu and better mobo so you can upgrade it later? 8 cores is good today but vulcan can use way more than 8
can't wait for the r7 7800x3d
Why test in lowest settings and fullhd?
The 7700 is currently more expensive than the 7700X in the UK ,so I went with the latter. I would actually not recommend buying a cpu right now if you can wait ,just get the 7800X3D or if you can't spend as much go with 7600X.
this goes for the gpu market i would wait for the ti and the 50s to be released
Should get the 7600 non X if available, it'd be cheaper
@@RidiculuzPrime But the thing is, you don't get this nice Wraith Prism cooler with the 7600 . The 6 core box cooler is the crappy Wraith Stealth that looks like Intel box cooler. AMD only offers Wraith Prism in 7700 and 7900
@@fleurdewin7958 or you slap an aftermarket cooler on because AMD’s tdp means nothing and the non x cpus are still pulling over 100 watts
5800x3d is just that good. I'll take that so I dont have to spend on a new motherboard/ram
Very good idea, 5800x3d is a very future proof cpu, couple that with a high frequency ram and it'll destroy anything you throw at it. Right now ddr5 and these new cpus just don't worth the money. You don't need that extreme productivity numbers and for rendering stuff 5800x3d is pretty solid, as well as rocking insane fps in games. I would at least wait 2 more generations to give up on am4. Not to mention x670 boards are almost double the price or more of x570 boards atm. I would go with a highend X motherboard of am4 generation than choosing a B of am5 generation.
@@commandruller I think 5800x3d is pretty much just a AM4 upgrade choice, if you are building right now 7600 non x and 13600kf is the choice if you want best value.
@@commandruller what I found good about the 5800x3d is that you don't really "need' high frequency ram nor low latency. Especially in my use case, I'm almost always gpu bound at 1440p
@@commandruller Future proof??
You gave me a nice laugh. I'm glad more sane people bought the i7-12700K, even with a different platform, totally worth it.
@@saricubra2867 It's more like if you already have an am4, 5800x3d will last way longer but if you dont have a pc and just starting out, might as well buy the 12700k. We're here looking for the price/performance. I aint gonna be loyal to amd. In terms of future proof, people can discuss it all day but I wont.
i5 13th gen 💯
AMD '700 class chip being compared to a '600 class intel chip?
Can you use DDR4 with B650M?
No only ddr5 ram