Why Vito Corleone Didn't Give Fredo Corleone His Own Regime?
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- In The Godfather, Vito Corleone gives his son, Fredo, A secondary role instead of giving him his own Regime. This decision ultimately leads to Fredo's alienation. Why did Don Corleone choose to give Fredo this responsibility?
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"Fredo was someone you protected, like women and children." 😂😂😂
Hey! That's not a nice thing to say....
About women and children.
Would you want someone to compare YOU to Fredo?
@@radicalross7700 good point, women and children can actually be loyal.
@@jeromechibamba514 To who each other?
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@@radicalross7700 "women and children can afford to be careless, but not men"
The one thing that stands out to me about the depiction of Fredo is that Fredo's stupidity was never played for laughs.
A lot of other films would have used Fredo's weaknesses as a source of cheap laughs. But there was nothing funny about Fredo's stupidity. He was depicted as a tragic figure who was doomed to fail and his ineptitude had deadly consequences for his family as well as Fredo himself.
It's not clear that he was stupid. I think "simple" is a better description. Because he seemed to lack cunning, but not necessarily intelligence. He was too trusting (IIRC he didn't actually know there would be a hit on Michael, but he probably shared information about which room was Michaels, or who the guard at the gate was (so that person could be recruited / bribed / threatened their family, etc.)
You may have a point. Only someone lacking cunning would not ask "Hey, why do you need to know where Michael's bedroom is? What does that have to do with business?"
@@radicalross7700 I think there is an element where, when you go back in literature to the greatest assassination tale ever, Julius Ceasar, it is Cassius's "lean and hungry look" that is used to describe ambition and cunning. Fredo, on the other hand, is Mr. Affable. His is anything but lean and hungry looking. Instead he come off as playful, happy, and, albeit a bit unsure of himself, generally content.
Fredo was the equivalent of an average person trying to play gangster. He acted like any of us would act if we tried to fit in with a criminal organization that we didn't really belong to or made for. Fredo lacked mentorship from Vito because Sonny was the obvious heir apparent. Sonny being such a hot head meant Vito had to dedicate more time with him over Fredo. Unlike Michael, Fredo never sought independence and relied on whatever he picked up from being around his father and older brother.
I think there’s a point made that most people miss. Fredo almost died as a infant, which probably stunted his growth as child. With Don Vito as his father and hot headed Sonny as his brother, Fredo probably was never bullied or disciplined at school. These two factors almost certainly left Fredo in an arrested development. Sonny was to the heir to the Don and Michael was envisioned as high ranking political figure by Vito. Fredo was to be looked after by the two. Unfortunately Sonny’s temper led to his downfall, which leads to Fred being skipped. Fredo, who probably never realized he was not considered highly of, didn’t know Vegas was an errand boy’s job. As a result, he was quite upset about being passed over and probably should’ve asked Vito, “Why?”.
Micheal said it best: "He's got a good heart. But he's weak and he's stupid."
Screw the video, this quote says it all.
The character of Michael was brief and correct with that quote. What else needs to be said?
"... Fredo ... ?
... ah ... he's got a good heart ...
... but he's weak ... and he's stupid ...
... and this is life and death ...
... Tom, you're my brother ... !"
In that life, having a good heart isn't an asset.
@@hoviksmail He was what he was. Pure and simple
I’ve posted this before: Michael was a Marine Corps Officer during WW2 against the fanatical Japanese Army. He learned about tactical decision making in a life and death situation. Winning was the only option for him, losing means that his Marines die. Everything that happened in WW2 more than prepared him to take over from his father.
Fredo couldn’t even hold onto his pistol and fire off a shot, when Vito was getting hit. Fredo couldn’t even “read the environment”, like Vito did, before the shooters went after his dad. A BOSS needs to be able to quickly and accurately size up a situation. ( remember the incident in Havana with the rebel) Michael immediately knew that the Cuba deal was wrong. Fredo couldn’t even keep control of a woman.
@@MrK623 Yes he would have. It's WW2 and as long as you aren't physically disabled, you are in. Accelerated ( OCS because he's a college boy ) is still long enough that he's not really smoking and presumably young enough to still be physically fit. I'm a Marine and plenty of guys who smoked back in the day, 30 yrs ago, got 300 PFT scores.
Mike. Lost control bad word to use but kate. Should of been. Given to harlem for whore out. She killed. Her un born. Son. Child. Fetus
I'm not always an advocate for prequels, but... it would be kinda cool to see a movie about Michael Corleone in WWII.
@@MrK623 That's one of the dumbest takes I've read in a while.
True Fredo couldn’t handle a woman, but banging two cocktail waitresses at a time deserves an honorable kudos
Fredo would be the type to wear shorts to a barbecue if he was the Don.
Flip flops with socks ?
According to Mike Fanzese don's wore shorts all the time.
@@Rockhound6165 when did this come up in a video??? lmao WHY did this come up in a video
@@PH1LLY it's from the Soprano's when Carmine Lupertazzi reprimanded Tony for having a backyard barbeque and wearing shorts(as if you're supposed to swim in slacks) that don's doing wear shorts. Mike Franzese, an actual mob capo, did a video on how accurate the Soprano's is and this came up and he laughed and said that don's wear shorts all the time.
@@Rockhound6165 "he laughed and said that don's wear shorts all the time."
People pay to much attention to image and class. They forget that the most powerful way to show off is by saying "Screw the norm, screw what I should do, I AM THE BOSS! I wear shorts because nobody can tell me not to! Because this is the way telling everyone that I do whatever I want to do!"
Because he was weak.
Fredo was not for that kind of business.
He should have just enjoyed the wealth of the family, instead of trying to be the boss.
Fredo Should have stood on the Outside Boundaries of that Life enjoying the Perks as a Corleone but not being "Part of the Business", Fr Example Put Sonny or even Micheal in Fredo's shoes when they Shot Vito, Santino would Put his own Life on the Life to Chase down the Gun-man & If Was Mikey would have the Men Wiped off the Face of the Planet, Could Give Fredo a Knife or any kind of weapon He couldn't pull himself to commit an act of Violence.
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Fredo was the sort (many folks like him) that if you give him a knife, chances are any opponent would use it on him.
Same reason I overruled my Dad when he wanted to give a nephew a knife, + I pushed for karate lessons instead!
It's always struck me as not only tragic, but an encapsulation of Fredo's character when he talks about how he's going to Las Vegas. Cazale plays it perfectly (as he always did), showing an incredible mix of pride and doubt. He knows he's not up to the task, but he's going to take it, because he needs to do something to prove himself worthy of the Family. Even though he's not worthy, and he knows it.
@@Joe-pb3bm Perfect description of poor Fredo.
his father should have put him in charge of a legal company. That way the family would have made money and Fredo would have been busy with something
As a child Freddo was will. He was always crying and in pain from illness from birth. Parents know their children from birth and they understood his limitations. As he matured he showed the evidence of the damage for his childhood illnesses. That is why his sister had compassion for him and begged for his forgiveness due to his limitations.
What got him killed is everyone knew his limitations except HIM. He argued up and down how smart he was and that he could handle things, which was proven a ridiculous lie.
True. Remember in Godfather II, in a flashback scene the infant Fredo was sick with a very high fever, probably about 105. That sealed his fate. He probably suffered some brain damage as a result making him nowhere near as bright as his brothers or sister.
@@jameshorton7496 I forgot about that incident. It opens up an interesting "what if?" What if Fredo never got so sick? Would he have had the wits and determination to become the don? It would have been ironic if in this scenario, Vito thought Fredo would be the best successor because Sonny's too hot tempered and Michael, while smart and determined, had no interest in the family business?
Susan, I don't remember that scene, but explains why Fredo was so naive
@@frankdees507 I only remember him arguing about being smart that one time to Michael during the "You're nothing to me now." conversation. He wasn't lying; he was lashing out because he became upset when Michael said "Haven't I always taken care of you?". He was trying to get respect from Michael and, in general, from the world. The dynamic is so powerful: Michael, the younger brother, had surpassed Fredo, the older brother, to become the head of the family. This was the ultimate emasculation for Fredo in a life that was full of them (Moe Greene smacking him around for banging the cocktail waitresses, getting sent to the airport like a chauffer to pick people up, etc.). I think it's fair to say that, at very least, Fredo's poor health as an infant served as a harbinger for who he would become. Tragic and brilliant.
Don Corleone himself said "Fredo is weak". That sums up Fredo in a nutshell
Fredo was brilliantly played by the late John Cazale.
He was only in five movies but all 5 of those movies were nominated for Best Picture that's some record.
@Brad Haines He was also dating a pretty famous actress at the time...I forget her name. But I didn't realize how well respected Cazale was amongst actors until I watched a documentary about him.
@Brad Haines Yeah that was her. Thanks I couldn't believe I forgot Meryl Streep's name. I was too lazy to google it also. But yeah I watched the documentary and was like wow this guy dated Meryl Streep?
I think he was the most underrated actor from the film and sadly unrecognized, not only was his performance excellent but I feel like the character of Fredo was one of the hardest characters to portray in the film. All the other characters are stronger personalities and get more popularity than Fredo, and are more common for actors to portray.
I might be wrong but I really believe Michael wanted to forgive Fredo but the scene where Fredo tells Michael what's in his heart (stepped over etc.), He effectively sealed his fate. There's no way Michael could allow him to live after Fredo showed what was in his heart. It also brilliantly shows how vulnerable and foolish Fredo was. He revealed how he really felt to his brother who was the Don and Michael being ruthless he weeded out any potential threats. Man what a tragic story.
The kiss of death was an old Sicilian mafia tradition Mike's mind was already made up in Cuba.
Yea it was really pathetic how Fredo couldn't control himself in that scene. He gains nothing by revealing to Michael his true feelings. He basically told Michael in no uncertain terms that he would never stop seeking the Don position even if it meant betraying Michael again and again. It's also a testament to just how dim he really was. Unable to think. Unable to even control his emotions.
I think that's the hammer that dropped, not only had he betrayed Michael, but he was also incapable of self-reflection. The main reason no one really trusted him was that he wasn't able to read other people and got off every minor power trip that came his way. Furthermore, his empathy or self-awareness just wasn't there. He had been involved in a plan that could've had his brother killed, yet here he was rolling on his back talking about how he was stepped over and ignored and didn't really try to prostrate himself over what *he* did to Michael. It just meant that as long as he was alive the same mistake could've been exploited over and over again and that unlike either of his brothers, he was never meant for the family business. Though Michael was certainly going to exile him, I felt that from that point onward, Fredo's death was inevitable, or more so.
Credit to the actor though. He really brought Fredo to life.
I think it's a good point. Fredo may have still been able to extricate himself from getting whacked at that point if he had shown some capacity to acknowledge his shortcomings and agree to the limitations he was put under. Instead he kept lamenting getting passed over by Vito and his frustrations. He refused to come to terms with who he was which meant very likely more strife and risk for Michael and the family in the future.
Perhaps even more tragic he may have indeed been fully beaten at that point. Terrified and broken by everything and forever a basket case adult child that would just do things like fish with the grandkids for the rest of his life. But because he lamented his fate so openly and didn't display that understanding (if he had it) he only contributed to the fear that he would cause trouble again someday and thus the prudent move was to whack him.
"Even as a capo, he would have gotten himself killed." He did. Also, in the book, Fredo was a big burly guy who was a hell of a fighter. John Cazale, God rest him, certainly was not but he made the part of the good hearted but rather dim witted Fredo more believable than a Luca Brazi clone.
That was bozo...
Interesting how they switched “Frodo’s appearance for the movie
Sonny was the imposing of the 3 brothers but Fredo maybe I didn't read the book iam going to have to read it
Fredo dropping the 🔫 as he watches his father shot down is one of the main reasons he was stepped over. He couldnt even help his father in his greatest time of need. Vito seen this as a weakness Fredo was not cut out to be boss.
Nope. Vito knew long before then. Which is why Fredo was used only minimally for low level tasks.
The Vegas job was actually a big promotion for him. And even that he royally screwed up.
Everyone knew he was weak and incompetent…and were willing to overlook it. But it was his betrayal & disloyalty that could not be tolerated.
Nonsense. Fredo was NEVER taking over.
In the book, he goes into some medical help after that. Not cut to lead, at all. Even Enzo, the bakerboy, played a brave role helping defend the Godfather.
Otoh, it takes an actor of John Cazale's caliber to play Fredo. It seems that he only made 5 movies, but all of them Oscar candidates. Unlike Fredo, he was a very smart guy.
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And yet Fredo was the best father figure Anthony had and one that he looked forward to seeing everyday.
Damn right
Your logic centers around the erroneous claim that “Fredo was no longer of any use”. Well, the fact is that Fredo was never of any use. They always invented some use for him because he was family; albeit the village idiot. Michael had him killed not because he was no longer of any use, but because he broke the chain of family ties and loyalty, putting his own misguided ambitions before the family needs, loyalty and security. He betrayed the family, became a deadly liability, and had to pay the price.
Also he was a liability of spilling his guts to the other families (or the cops) of what he did know about the family as we saw with the near miss attack on Michaels home in Part 2.
Fredo was useful in that he was a Corleone. He wasn't expected to do much, but by being a son of Vito nobody would dare touch him so he was useful in terms of have a Corleone present at any given place of business and could serve as a mouthpiece for the boss. We see this with Michael losing it with Moe Green for having the balls to even lay a hand on his brother.
It was pretty clear why he couldn't be the boss. He just wasn't capable of doing what would've been needed..
Other moment that was captured by michael that fredo showed weekness was the party where fredo couldn't control his wife. Michael said "you are my older brother so don't have to apolagize to me". At the same that he meant I am the boss here, I will solve the problem and I am above you.
Even at the end he withheld info. When he said anything else? He said no. 5 min later he was like the politician belonged to Roth. He wasn't a smart man.
Why was Moe Greene explaining himself to Michael if he really believed that the Corleone family didn't have that kind of muscle anymore? He signed his and Barzini's death warrant with his mouth that day
Michael wanted others to see weakness so they showed their hands. He killed the police captain the same way… play naive & unarmed and then attack when their guard is down.
Because he was a hothead and Michael pushed his buttons just enough to get him to snap at him.
All the plans were already made Barzini and the other bosses were walking dead men. If Moe had taken the deal and walked away he would have lived.
Some people just have it in them to be in charge. For every one of those there are 100 people who "want" to be in charge, but rarely ever act like they deserve it.
Explains why I can’t get a drink in the casino! lol 😂
This was just a 6 minute Fredo roast. :D LOL. Loved it!
If after watching the movies, you still ask why he was stepped over, you must be stepped over yourself.
"They didn't know it was Pop's birthday." I just love that line. (I'm not posting Sonny's quote that prompted it. IFKYK. )
In the "Godfather 2" there is a scene where baby Fredo has a high fever, I believe this is where damage was done to his brain.....
I always thought it was interesting that Fredo would drink too much and shoot off his mouth, (such as blurting out that he was well acquainted with Johnny Ola,) who he claimed not to know, while Mchael drank club soda and listened.
@Derp Derp Yes, I am sure that you noticed that during the New Year's Eve celebration in Cuba, Fredo drank too much, talked too much, and gave himself away, while Michael drank club soda and listened.
A lot of the wisest people do a lot more listening than talking. Really goes to show that Michael and Fredo were polar opposites. One was perfectly suited to running a complex crime family in the darkest of times, the other couldn't even control himself.
@@BigManPigMan628 Yes, I agree.
You know I feel a lot like Fredo. Older brother was handsome and athletics picks up women with ease, younger brother fearless and brave the bad boy how has no issue with women as well, and then there is me the middle son skinny cowardice at times not a ladies man the least attractive and not smart at all. I really feel for Fredo.
Same here except my 3 little brothers are all 6ft plus and I got stuck at 5"5. They grew up with gf's all the time. While I had 0. But hey that's life lol
In the books Fredo’s physical description is much different.
Don't take sides against the family.
Freddo almost died as a baby & probably suffered some brain damage as a result from the illness. In Godfather 2 we are shown a snapshot of each son’s temperament, foreshadowing the men they will become. Sonny being highly strung, Fredo being weak physically/mentally & Michael being quiet, thoughtful & level headed. The Godfather knew Michael was really the only one capable of running the family which made him protective of Michael, not to mentor him but to stop him from being involved in crime. He didn’t want the only son with strong capabilities & bright future to end up being a crime boss. In the Godfather’s eyes Michael was better & more deserving of greater things. He probably envisaged him being the president one day or at least someone in a respectable & legal leadership role, not a crime Lord.
'..senator Corleone.. governor Corleone'
If he was Don in Micheal's era espcially the other families would've torn the corelone family to shreds, unless Micheal as underboss stepped in as the real leader during the chaotic situations. Everyone would know Fredo is only don because he is the oldest, Micheal would be the real don, and Fredo would be even more envious than he was while being underboss, except due to the responsibility of being don he wouldn't have betrayed Micheal. He would sit with the pain or kill himself, but he wouldn't have betrayed Micheal, due to fear of the consequences.
More interestingly I think the family would've been stronger because they would've seen the cost of bad leadership in Fredo being don. The family in Micheal's era was very soft and couldn't see why Micheal had to rule in the manner he did, Fredo putting the entire family empire in complete danger would've made everyone more obedient to Micheal. Sonny I think had provided the family strength and the past and his lack of presence really had an impact. Even Micheal said he wished he had a robust 2nd man.
This is why I maintain Micheal was the best don because despite all of the major setbacks he had to deal with including an era that was more ruthless he still almost got the entire family out of the mob life, which is something I cannot imagine Vito being able to do.
Did Fredo deliberately betray Michael? Did he try to get Michael killed?
@@niallg3551 Nah, but he went against Micheal's back and worked with foreign agents without his permission, and than admitted the reason why he did it was because he was selfish. So he indirectly almost caused the death of Micheal and his wife.
Well, DUH
You are almost describing the Soprano family's power struggle, with Jr playing the role of Fredo & Tony that of Michael. The enemy within...
There's a saying in that life when you have shown your worth and been marked as an equal and to be respected, they say, _"Make your Bones."_
Many people think this always involves killing someone, but that isn't the case. You can make your bones in any situation where things could go very wrong if you fall apart, but you keep your cool, stay steady you can get through it.
When Don Vito was attacked Fredo froze, he fumbled, then he crumbled showing he didn't have what it takes to lead that life. He failed to make his bones. He proved himself unworthy not to be trusted in a crush.
They sent him away to get him away from where they thought any danger was involved, where he could have a job that involved dressing flashy and acting the big shot. If he wound up actually being any good at anything or not would just be icing on the cake.
U referred to Bonasera's daughter's "rapists." That's not correct. If u recall, Bonasera told the Godfather she fought the assailants and "kept her honor." That's why they beat her.
They did not just beat her. They beat her untill her father could barely recognize her.
Fine. "Attempted rapists" then
Doesn’t exactly matter, their intentions were clear so the characters still deserve the moniker
@@JThom529 No one is arguing they didn't deserve retribution.
Honestly, most of the time I myself kinda feel like Fredo because damn I just wished I knew I what I was doing half of the time instead of pretending that I know what I'm doing because I don't. 😔
Take control and make positive outcomes happen. Keep going and show up even if you don’t know what u are doing. You will learn in time. But keep showing up is key
Bonasera’s profession as an undertaker is very useful to a crime syndicate but in the book “The Godfather “ the Don didn’t like Bonasera and the main reason he avenged his daughter’s assault was she was the Don’s wife’s god-daughter.
Bonasera wasn't an idiot either he knew what owing the Don a favor could mean for an undertaker it's not exactly the same concern as a baker.
@@Paul-vf2wl Yep-the novel made clear that Bonasera feared he'd wind up burying mob victims illegally. When he gets the dreaded call from Don Corleone-he almost has a heart attack.
One of the main reasons he was stepped over because he wasn't the sharpest knife in the drawer
Because he was weak and soft not boss material..
“Hey Mike Mo never said anything about selling the casino”
Mike, you don’t talk to a man like Mo Greene like that”
Then goes on to tell Mo hey I have an idea runs to Tom, lol
To which I always reply in my head "and who the heck does that street corner pimp think he's talking to? A Corleone. Screw him, Fredo. Screw Moe Green and his whole army of Vegas fops."
It was shown in Godfather part 2 that Fredo had a high fever while he was a baby. I would assume then that the fever damaged his brain, thus eliminating the possibility of certain types of thinking.
He's not slow. He's just 'normal' compared to his father and brothers. Fredo just wasn't made for the type of life his father lived.
The reason he was stepped over was simply thet Fredo was not really cut out for the business...let alone being boss. Vito knew this, and he was not going to put his son in a place where he knew he was going to fail. Especially in a place where the stakes are so high and death was a real possibility. And he was right. This doesn't mean Vito loved Fredo any less than his other sons; but it meant he shouldn't be part of this life. So, Vito found a way to use Fredo in a way he could help and he felt good about it. Michael ,however, did not have the same finesse that Vito had; which lead to him being manipulated by Roth. If Vito was around it never would have come to that.
You are right-the Don should have made Fredo an apprentice to Amerigo Bonasera-Fredo would then have a non-Mob job, and couldn't screw up and endanger the family-well maybe not... he might have screwed up Sonny's embalming job,
Every family has a Fredo.
His luck ran out way after he was no longer of any use. As long as his mother lived, Fredo was safe. But, once she died, his countdown had truly begun.
I love the character of Fredo but he betrayed the family so Michael didn't have no other option but to have him killed
Couldn't Trust Him at that point, Who's to Know what would happened if He Had him Spared,(Would He Learn his Lesson or Go to Double Cross Mikey Again at a Chance for the #1 Spot Who's to Know).
I dunno if anything he could of just exiled him to sicilly and had kept a close eye on him if anything, they say time does heal wounds and in time he would of understood and forgave him 🤔
@@I-Want-The-Truth are you serious? Brother or no brother Fredo endangered the lives of Michaels wife and children he had to go. No doubt about it.
@@postmastersgt1670 why let him off so easy? Killing him was easy, letting him live his life day by day with the guilt means that would hurt him more
@@I-Want-The-Truth thats not how it works what Fredo did was unforgivable to the point where he had to be eliminated. He was a threat to the family to be left alive.
If you dont understand why Fredo wasn't head of the family then YOU'RE Fredo 😂
Im the useless brother in my family, so I always felt for Fredo
He was always sickly as a child, never played with other kids, always clung to his Mother.
In the Old Country, an 'Uncle' would have taken Fredo fishing and never brought him back home...terribly dangerous business, this fishing...
Oh, wait, that DID happen!
It's hardly Sparta... I invite you to travel some more.
"I CAN DO THINGS!!! I'M SMAAAHHHTT!!"
Sonny was a street guy Michael himself was not ever to be boss and become the most ruthless and had a bit of his father's calmness and sonny's murderous nature
Michael was a Marine Corps Officer in the Pacific theatre fighting against the fanatical Japanese Army. He learned tactical analysis of your enemy in the biggest way possible and it was a life or death situation. Everything about WW2 schooled Michael to take over from his father.
Michael could kill a person in cold blood I doubt sonny Could do that.
@@asifcra7839 Michael had capable and loyal guys around him when he got Neri he was told you now have your Luca And Rocco knew the odds of him getting away from killing Roth did a suicide mission
I enjoyed it very much. Interesting and very thorough. it would be unimaginable that Vito, Santino or Michael Corleone would have been "slapped around in public," as Fredo was by Moe Green.
He wasn't really stepped over. His brother Andrew was already the governor of NY so the highest Fredo could rise to was a tv news reader.
Do you live in a trailer park?
Lmao
@@shrim1481 you love sticking up for rich people don't ya?
@@ericthomas917 who me? Why did you vote for Trump then?
Also withheld f/Michael that Questadt n Roth were working together against him, till the very end.
And the urban legend began:
"Every family has a Fredo".
Fredonia couldn't be heir to the throje because he didnt have the nerve in a gun fight. They tried to find work that suited him but he proved incompetent and disloyal.
Thats our Fredo!!
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I still don't think he NEEDED to kill Fredo
Yeah, his lower intelligence led him to be manipulated,, but he wasn't even smart enough to know that he had been used, and to what ends. Nor did he have it in him to go up make a power play to go against Michael, that Michael wouldn't NOW be able to see coming from a mile away.
All Fredo wanted was the respect from Michael, that Vito refused him, he was a Mama's boy, who craved attention and the approval of those his Father and Brothers.
All Michael would have to do.to effectively sideline Fredo, was what he did in the "You're nothing to me now" speech, and exile.
That would have been worse than the bullet to the head, and he wasn't the type to go atyer revenge
Michael later realized that mistake he made about Fredo taking him out., that reasoning of Michael’s ate him alive. In the end Fredo death took out Michael in the end. That’s when Michael keeled over in Italy all alone.
Some thing Vito knew about Fredo that he should be some place alone for the remainder of his life. Working a 8-5 job
@@nomdeplume7537 Fredo was a born idiot. AND. Vito only loved Michael. He tolerated Sonny. Fredo and Tom wasnt true Corleone. As for Connie, she was a woman.
Vito wished he had 4 Michaels
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Vito was all 4 of them rolled into one. Even though Tom was "adopted" Vito still had a bit of his analytical mind. Even a bit of Connie was there ..
I do wish they had made the interval years. I heard there had been talk of making a true prequel to the Godfather. Where you see Vito's rise to power.
GF II flash backs stopped just at the beginning of the acquisition of power.
IMO we'd get to see evidence of Vito being all 4/5
An interesting way to deal with Fredo would have been just to exile him to some villa in Europe ( a fancy house arrest ). Letting the other families know he is of zero use to them or the Corelone family. At least that way Michael would not be tortured by the guilt he felt later.
If Fredo had betrayed Michael in any other way maybe but the way in which he betrayed him almost cost his life and his wife and endangered his children. Fredo crossed the line of no return.
@Brian Murphy Yeah, in hindsight that would be the best solution. But during the time the decision was made, there was lots of tension and not only did he get the whole Corleone family killed but he also has been giving inside information for years.
Fredo got a job at CNN afterwards.
Fredo was booty, soft, weak. When his father was getting shot up, he dropped the gun. In that life you can be stupid, but you gotta have grit, toughness, balls. In the book, Fredo was a thumper, physically stronger than the others.
"Fredo was booty"
Probably wanna go easy with the gay prison rape slang around normal people. We don't normally look at a weak man and think "I bet I could fuck his ass".
*"Fredo" also co starred with AL Pachino as his associate bank robber in *"Dog day afternoon."
and he set him up to be killed.
I had a childhood friend that was like fredo. He was murdered over a woman. My friend was born without the sixth sense that tells you your in trouble. Carlo we miss you, how could you be so foolish.
I would pay to Listen to a well narrated story
@@rayemills3 how much
@@gregscrabshack2307 ima need about tree fiddy
"Go send Fredo to run some Mickey Mouse Club somewhere"
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Fredro was too weak and too stupid. That's why he was stepped over. Although Fredo tried many times to prove he was worth a damn, he failed. Yes, he was a failure. He had a good heart though. He just wasn't meant to be a mafia boss.
“He was banging cocktail waitresses two at a time”
Seems like some sort of congratulatory hand shake, hug, or even a plaque would have been in order
I think Vito owed it to Michael to run the family. Not only fredo was stepped over but clemenza and tessio were stepped over. Michael was never gonna be what Vito wanted him to be so Vito handed down the power to Michael to take the most powerful family in America to higher heights.
Fredo is the type of guy who would drown in a two inches of water in a penguin exhibit
The Corleone’s were killing two birds with one stone while Fredo was “ banging cocktail waitresses two at time”…
Fredo's downfall wasn't that he was unintelligent and weak but that he WANTED to be part of the family's business even if he could not. Michael didn't want to but could and took the reign. Fredo could have been huge help to Michael in pretending to be dissatisfied with Michael taking over, luring out traitors and enemies alike. But his empty ambition to be the Don caused harm to the entire Corleone family so he had to be killed.
0:56 : Notice that Don Michael watches as Fredo ~ a Corleone ~ as an underling to Moe Greene ~ pulls out his chair for him to sit down ...
He was stepped over because that is what Mario Puzo wanted.
John Casale made a great performance. Show weakness is not an easy task.
Fredo felt that as the older brother he should have had more power and decision making. He went so far as to tell Michael so. His weaknesses and carefree attitude would have made a poor Don. Vito was the wisest Don, he demanded but also gave respect, killing only when he had to. Family was important and he died playing happily with his grandson. Michael was a good business man as well as a cold blooded killer. He died alone.
This for the benefit and people who did NOT watch the movies?
@Movies Consigliere great channel.
The real reason Fredo was pass over one word Weak
Because he never had the makings of a varsity athlete, he was just too weak!
It's actual blessing to have smart and capable brother.
And he can do things
NY was never involved in Vegas, that was the Chicago Outfit which was much more powerful and cohesive compared to the NY Commission. Reason being the Chicago Outfit ran more like a business and accepted anyone with talent, one did not need to be Italian which was a requirement with the NY Commission.
Even the Queen had a similar idiot with Andrew…
""Which saw Michael and Kate murdered in their own home"" 3:52 ??
Did the narrator actually SEE the movie?
Yeah, I seem to recall that hit failing and the shooters already dead by the time Rocco's men caught up to them.
English is not my first language so I don't know but I think he is talking about Hyman Roth.
"...Hyman Roth which also saw Michael and Kate murdered in their own home."
You took part of a sentence acting like that is the whole sentence.
@@Zodroo_Tint - But Michael and Kate Weren't Murdered in their own home.
I always wondered how Michael and Neri explained Neri coming back with an empty boat. Connie certainly knew.
Of course, in GF 3, she takes on a much more active role
Her character arc is so interesting. In part 1 she was yelling "murderer" at Mike & in part 3 she just goes along "poor Fredo drowned" 😂
Once she understood that Michael just wanted to protect the family she went on the exact same path.
Fredo should've opened a nice Cigar shop and played his role.
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Fredo was stepped over because Mike saved the Don at the hospital when Fredo chose to go out partying. That was the defining moment.
Vito was smart enough to know Fredo wasn't capable of being the Don.
the Machiavellian mentality of Michael at its best.
Fredo the person you have getting food or to watch the front door
Fredo was a dangerous liability. The attempt on his father's life was clear proof; so he was spirited away from the scene.........for the family's protection, not his.
He was smart! Not dumb, like everyone says…
It might be deeper and darker. The only way to draw out all the atackers was to make the family look weak. Many people tool the bait.
Unfortunately Fredo did too, and the family had to wipe out everyone involved to appear strong again.
Fredo was a casualty of all that
I'll save 6 minutes with my take.
-He was a coward, and impressionable. Evidenced by his relationship with moe green
-He was vengeful, and unstable. Evidenced by his betrayal of his own family.
I understand why (emotionally) killing fredo was bad for michael, but i always thought it was the right choice to kill fredo. He betrayed his family twice, and at least once knowingly. He understood the life they were in.
ain’t no scraps in his scrapbook.
Fratricide is a terrible betrayal of one's own family. When Michael killed Fredo he killed a huge part of himself. He was a haunted man afterwards.
Yeah not really
And sometimes, like with Vegas, what happens at CNN doesnt always stay at CNN.
From day 1, Fredo was not cut out for that life.
As soon as Don Veto passed, Michael should have sent him far away cut off from all family business.
But...there is a line of dialog in Part II referring to Fredo's men, implying that he at least had a few guys under him, maybe only bodyguards, not a regime. However, in the huge congressional investigation's chart which lists all known members of the family, Fredo is listed as underboss, meaning he probably would have men under him out of sheer respect to his overall responsibility in the role. But nowadays, only Francis Coppola would be able to say for sure...
Stepped over? Wasn't he a CNN anchor?
Don't let Meryl Streep hear you talking shit about Fredo!! 😅🤣😂
THE GODFATHER most heartbreaking performance. Rest in Peace JOHN CAZALE 🎭 💔
Vito explained this to Michael when they were in the garden. He said that women and children can be careless, which Fredo was when he dropped his gun during the assassination attempt of Vito.
Michael offered to buy out Mo Greene because he knew Mo would be offended and deny his request. Michael had already planned to kill Mo Greene but needed an excuse. Fredo was just a weak pawn who was tolerated as long as he didn’t carry any liabilities. Once he became a liability, he was eliminated.
Al pacino was freaking handsome in is younger days.
I agree
Don Vito: Women and Children can be careless but not men. Wait, add fredo to the careless gang.
I think everyone is forgetting Fredo caught pneumonia as a baby. So that afflicted him physically and especially mentally. As we say in today's society he is a kind person but a little slow. And in the cut throat world of the Mafia a slow witted person wouldn't be a smart move for the survival of a crime family. Michael was the smartest, he was the only college attendant with studies in Business Administration and a War and Military vet.
Michael was gonna be math teacher. In a movie he was a law student
I think a lot of Fredo's insecurities are because of Vito who played favourites when it came to his sons. He even refused to look at Fredo after his return from the hospital. The relationship b/w the brothers was loving and Fredo would not have betrayed Sonny, seeing in him a protective elder brother. When Michael visits Vegas, one can see Fredo wants to impress him. Instead Michael gives him a whiplash in front of others. I think this is when Fredo started turning against Michael. Wish Vito had talked to both of his sons after Sonny's death and explained why Michael was given the charge of the empire. But Vito never had time for his middle son.
He never had the makings of a varsity athlete