I'm happy to report that "Cherry Pie" wasn't supposed to be released at all. Warrant showed the album to the label executives, and they said "I don't hear a radio song". Jani Lane wrote it in 30min, hated it, but the label forced them to put it out not only in the album, but also as a single. If you actually take time to listen to the rest of the songs (i.e. what the album was supposed to be), it's pretty good. Their other releases are also great. This dichotomy of "hard rock bad, grunge good" overlooks some really good 80's music, and overpraises some really shitty 90's music.
@@gab.lab.martins "Jani Lane wrote it in 30min, hated it, but the label forced them to put it", well don't write crap songs then. Grunge was just superior, massively superior to the crap that was ubiquitous just before it broke, and still is.
@@gab.lab.martins Hard rock wasn't the issue as many hard rockers flourished in the 90s. What Nirvana and Pearl Jam ended was the mid to late 80s "LA" Glam metal scene. Spandex, chick hair, chick makeup, etc, was done. It was time for a change and most hard rockers praised Nirvana and Pearl Jam for ending it.....The good ones did. Most of the legends did. Keep in mind too that both gangsta-rap and pop-country were also REALLY taking off and becoming way more mainstream in the early 90s as well. Cheers.
@@ringtail1401 right, cuz when you have a poorly negotiated contract in which you either do exactly what the label tells you or you have to pay millions of dollars in fines for breaching it, it’s easy to write a great song that is also radio-friendly after the entire album has already been recorded in time for the release date. Piece of cake.
I will never get over Chris's death..This was a man who I thought was going to live for another 20 to 30 years and put out more great records. Biggest loss in rock music in my opinion.
Thankyou so much for this series. Nirvana, Soundgarden, Alice In Chains, changed me, changed my life, and changed the world for a little while. I still listen to their music and it's still as exciting and powerful as it ever was. ✊
Yes I'm Gen X and lived in the Seattle area. I have such a sense of pride and feel so lucky to have been apart of the Seattle scene. What memories, and an amazing time to be in my early 20's. I still rock out to that music cuz there just hasn't been anything good enough to pull me away. My kids grew up listening to it and they love it as well. Alice has always been my favorite and I still miss Layne to this very day..
Grunge represented the state of the world at the time. The Excess of Sex and Partying after the crash and Aids pandemic just didn't fit anymore and that gave rise to anything that represented the antithesis of excess... Hence Grunge grew and changed Rock forever...
For something that supposedly represented the antithesis of excess, they sure had a hefty percentage of people dying from overdoses or drug-related deaths, either at the time or later.
It was the last truly great rock scene. There are good rock scenes that happen to grow and flourish every few years. But has anything surpassed the true greatness of the Seattle Scene critically and commercially?
I think the last great rock scene was the garage Rick revival in the 2000s. Lots of good music came out then and I think it’s time we give those bands recognition like those from the 70s 80s and 90s.
@@deft__12 That was a good rock scene...great bands...but not one of the great scenes. The Brit-punk scene of Libertines, Bloc Party, Arctic Monkeys is another really good rock scene...but not one of the all time great rock scenes. Seattle 1992, is like England 1965, New York 1977...THE all time great scenes. My favorite eras in rock are like A tier and B or C tier level scenes...lesser known but sometimes more interesting.
I absolutely loved this series! I never wanted it to end, insightful and emotional! Grunge will live on forever ♾ Rest in peace to all the incredible artists Missed eternally 💔🤍
Also, other than 'grunge', there was another sound of music that changed the music scene for the better in the late 80's and early 90's. And that was Industrial Metal. With bands like Nine Inch Nails and Ministry. Good times!
@@Johnnymack666 And so tell me......now that you're 14 you still listening 'Sniff'rvana ?!? ...just curious, pal 😆 PS : 1 single track, any of them by NIN, can easily overwhelm grunge itself......so wonder where this sarcasm against NIN and others comes from 🙃
Also, other than 'grunge', there was another sound of music that changed the scene for the better in the late 80's and early 90's. And that was Death Metal. Good Times!
Grunge music showed emotion, vulnerability that's why is was so relatable why so many were called to it we feel vulnerable at times and songs with such vibes are the songs that change who you are you grow and understand just my thoughts
Glam Metal Killed itself when the started to Look like girls it used to scare ppl Because u would look at Twisted Sister, W.A.S.P and Mötley Crüe they looked scary
Just the other week I saw STP play at the Rust Belt in East Moline for my first concert ever and they absolutely rocked. I unfortunately never got to see them with Scott Weiland as I would have been a little kid when he was still in the band, but Jeff Gutt was a great showman with a lot of swagger. I even got my ticket signed by Eric Kretz, which was super cool of him.
Dude Scott Weiland with stp was amazing, talk about someone sounding identical live as they were on their albums, and he always had a megaphone he used on stage lol..one of my fav bands of all time luckily got to see them 3 times in a span of 2 years right before he passed
Thanks for making this series. But you didn’t raise the next question: will there ever be another grunge movement? Will there ever be a grunge revival? Are there any bands out there in the underground DIY scene actually creating a new groundswell that has potential? Matt Pinfield knows…he is on top of everything. Everything. Ok…don’t look over your shoulder because the new wave of grunge bands are coming for you 🔊🖤
I guess i never grew past this time because that's still the music I gravitate to. I didn't quite get the phrase "it spoke to me" till this time. I was a teenager, didn't know a damn thing about the world. Trying to figure things out and find the meaning of it all. Hell, in 2023 I still am. Since then I crave lyrics that mean something. Tell a story or a thought and I'm SO grateful i lived through this time because people in the present are really missing out on some music that can actually speak TO them.
I saw Chris Cornell on the Higher Truth tour about 6 months or so before he died, I'm really glad I did. I was an amazing show and I bought the vinyl at the show and play it frequently.
I bought my first guitar on September 25th 1991, a piece of me died when that shotgun went off in Kurts house that day, i was at a Pearl Jam show the night before, the news broke, i was devastated. Love the binaural shirt.
I was born in 99 so this was kinda before my time but I've always been a lover of this genre. The music of the 90s has been with me through good times, bad times, and everything in between. Much love to people who created an atmosphere for music to be authentic work of art.
One of the things that is so sad about Grunge is how encapsulated it was. I mean for other types of music before and after you could see live for years and decades after. With grunge the larger bands either had major members pass away, quit, or end their bands early in their career. We will never know what could have been with Kurt, Layne, and others. We will never get those reunion tours or ever a new album from them. My generation got cheated both musically and culturally by the passing of so many great artists.
All I know is if there are prolonged periods of cloudy weather I don't feel right. When I lived in London I was moody most of the time, even after 10 years of living there. It's sneaky and because it's natural you don't give much thought to it but it slowly eats up your positive energy.
Such a great video! Grunge came around when I was in my early teens. I agree with alot of what is said in this video. Pearl Jam and Nirvana especially made me feel. Helped me understand and accept pain, grief, depression, angst. Grunge as a whole opened my eyes to so much in life. Not just music
When I was about 15 or 16 I did LSD for the first time and I was outside tripping balls and standing on this big ass rock and was well, rocking back and forth a little bit and someone played Pearl Jams Alive and we put it on repeat and I remember staring at the sky and rocking, literally and figuratively and thinking that Alive was the best song in the universe and it was, well....LSD so, you can imagine, but yeah, that's when I really started getting into Pearl Jam,1995 or 96,many winters have passed mi amigos 🤘
Everyone in the video saying they didn't expect Cornell's death; how could you not?! The guy was visibly depressed, had been for years, recluse and could barely smile. I wasn't shocked at all when the news came out.
Yeah I had a mild depressive episode once and it sucked so fucking much. This guy had severe depression for his entire life, I'm actually surprised he didn't kill himself earlier.
Like Elvis in 1954 Change pop Sinatra to RocknRoll, Grunge and Nirvana, especially, lunch Alternative music to be reckon with to the masses. And I thank Kurt Cobain for this, for ever... I was 19 when Nirvana revolution happen. And am grateful! Grunge was it's own movement that began in 1984 in Seattle and died in 1994. The 1990s was the beginning of Alternative music that change the pop world, finally.
4:01 So if it's a mental illness, then these people should be in a hospital getting treated.... but NO.. suicide is never noble 5:22 and it's selfish. These people never seek aid and those that supposedly care, leave them alone with their mortal thoughts to kill themself. Seek help you think life sucks. And Courtney had Kurt murdered. Stop ass rimming Courtney's suicide narrative, that's a lie! Research.
@Ralof it was way better than hair metal, and it also influenced a lot more. You see lots of bands influenced by grunge and alternative bands from the 90s, but not many by hair metal. You could almost treat hair metal as a joke.
Sorry to say it but Grunge did not set the precedent for singing about mental health issues, drug issues and suicide. The 60's was prolific for all of that but I believe 1920's blues started it. In the 60's Black Sabbath and Pink Floyd were two bands who didn't flinch at discussing the topics, and Suicide Is Painless (best known as the theme song from M*A*S*H*) dealt quite bluntly with the topic of suicide and was written by Mike Altman who was only 14 at the time.
Soundgarden was not a pure grunge band. Yes they made some grunge songs but they preached Doom Metal. Another thing is all the other bands from Seattle admitted that Soundgarden was the best from the scene
Hahaha. Why do metalheads always want to claim [insert grunge band here] for their own? You're allowed to like both metal and grunge, you know. Soundgarden were a grunge band. It's okay. You can like that "Soundgarden weren't grunge but all the grunge bands thought they were the best grunge band" HAHA. Like wtf are you even talking about
Smithereens, another darker sounding band before alternative went mainstream. Age and other factors meant they were not “grunge”. Their sound is very similar to some grunge hits.
Not all grunge music was dark. People read into lyrics too much. And honestly these people suffered a lot of mental health issues, not to mention in Seattle at the time in the 80s, heroin just came around there big time, so it was hard to avoid, especially once they got big and needed a way to deal with the pressures of having to please everyone and be perfect. Money doesn’t buy happiness, if anything, it makes it worse when you gravitate towards it to fix your problems and suddenly realize it doesn’t solve any problems.
Chris Cornell's suicide was shocking indeed, but there is zero argument to be made that his was the most shocking of all. Kurt Cobain's suicide was inconceivable at the time
I am sure, the 70’s kids that went through divorce or indifference from parents…have had a rough go….we were the first to live through enmasse broken homes and there was no guide book
Well if Nirvana were primarily responsible for inspiring the creation of Oasis, then I've found the one negative thing about grunge. That's a biggie tho. Cos Oasis suck
"Was it a movement?" How is that even a question? YES! It was one of the the greatest and the last movement in rock history, I hope to see another in my lifetime but since then, the early to mid 90's, there has been nothing on or close to that level. Nu metal? nope lol not quite sorry, the industry has been dying since then. Capitolism and corporate greed has chewed and shit out the music industry, look at pop today. Thank fuck tho! bands are finding their own way on the internet and within their local scenes, original contemporary rock, with instruments won't die.
"I don't know that you could find a regional music scene of such breadth and depth..." Uh, let's see. How about Dixieland Jazz circa 1920s, Delta Blues circa 1930s, Texas Rockabilly circa 1950s, New York Punk circa 1970s, London hard rock circa 1970s...I could go on right up until today, but this statement is really hyperbolic and ignorant.
It's still to early for me to revisit the 90's rock scenes. Maybe another 10 years. I mean no doubt it was time to end the 80's hair metal, power ballad dribble, but the industry just gets stale after trying to milk a trend to death and now for the first time there is no fresh rock scene, anywhere.
You didn’t have to fit a sound? If you didn’t sound “alternative“, you didn’t get any airplay or any way of reaching a wider audience. Also, giving yourself the pat on the back for being “authentic” and so “pure” about your music is itself a pretension.
Grunge had its moment, just like Glam Metal had its, and Nu Metal with its after Grunge, and where Rock is now, well that is a mystery. I had had enough rap by about 1988, and it won’t go away, kind of like some unwanted rash. The problem with grunge is that it was mostly depressing, and tried to be relevant about a lot of bullshit social issues. It’s only by the fact that there were some basic pop songs underlying it that it remains great music. It had a higher rate of deaths than other forms, probably because there was nihilism along with the aesthetic, everything was sooooo serious. Didn’t they learn anything from Hendrix, Morrison, Joplin, Moon, Bonham, the list is forever.
It's noisy, distorted music that's depressing and cynical and people enjoy it; suicide reached an all-time high subsequent to this music form emerging; I think drug related deaths increased too and not only because of population growth. Grudge music feels angry and hopeless . . . "Get Together And Love One Another" by The Youngbloods or "Age of Aquarius" by The Fifth Dimension come to mind as happy rock songs. Now we have lyrics like "world of human wreckage" and "staring down the barrel of a .45" and "black balloon" . . . Ye Gadz.
I.mean it was cool that a very average musician thought he could get signed but has everyone forgotten about the 1000s of terrible grunge bands because we only hear the good stuff like the big 4 or outside of that buthole surfers are sonic youth all those bands were the very best of the grunge genre and absolutely great bands in any genre but man there was tons of shit absolute shit Kurt's death was a big reason for the death of grunge but the 1000s of shit bands is the other reason going to the store buying this horrible bands album because there labeled grunge pissed a lot of people off
@@BelladonnaCureYeah for being a HUGE investor and starting a big charity to advocate for finding and throwing FVCKING SCUMBAG pedophiles and child sex traffickers in prison and throwing away the keys. He was a great human being and father and friend. I will miss him always.
This series is so cringey and so full of bullshit and mythmaking but Poneman comes off fairly self-aware. I'd watch an interview with him by someone who's heard of Flipper.
Grunge didn't change Rock n Roll. Record exec's and their Marketing team did. They actually killed Rock music all for the sake of a great payday. They were the ones who trashed Rock music and divided youth/ and 30 yr olds by labels on the guise of labels were bad. How in the hell do you do that.
It went from «music is there to make you forget your problems, even for just a little while» to «music is there to remind you how much life, and yours in particular, sucks».
Am I the only one who when they think of grunge, is pissed that Kurt Cobain blew his brains out and that meant more to people than the woman who actually started grunge! For those that don't know it was the band Bam Bam and their front woman Tina Bell, who is a amazing singer and a woman of color.
Grunge changed rock and roll by making great punk harder to find. Otherwise, it meant most hardcore guys like me went into Hip Hop because a lot of our guitar players did in the early 90s. I was scoping Europe’s metal scene. And listening to pop, blues, bluegrass and zydeco. Because the grunge was everywhere and I couldn’t escape it. The only good thing that came out of was Fu Fighters.
I thought it amazing when it happened…but now it’s just too much. Get over it already. Quit your crying and whining. I mean Corgan has been milking misery for 30 yrs.. How hard it must be to keep singing “Disarm” every night…Life is good. Most of us made it through.
No, it was already dead from over-saturation of the millions of crappy spandex-clad bands putting out the exact same song over and over again. Grunge came along and revived rock and roll, reminding the industry and public of authenticity in brilliant simplistic song writing. But sure, go with Cinderella instead, lol
Nah it was already dying by 1989, grunge made it fresh again and revived it for a few more years. Post-grunge, nu metal, emo, pop punk and all that garbage killed rock.
All I know is it went from songs like Warrent's 'Cherry Pie' to songs like Soundgarden's 'Jesus Christ Pose'. And I personally cheered on that change.
I'm happy to report that "Cherry Pie" wasn't supposed to be released at all. Warrant showed the album to the label executives, and they said "I don't hear a radio song". Jani Lane wrote it in 30min, hated it, but the label forced them to put it out not only in the album, but also as a single. If you actually take time to listen to the rest of the songs (i.e. what the album was supposed to be), it's pretty good. Their other releases are also great. This dichotomy of "hard rock bad, grunge good" overlooks some really good 80's music, and overpraises some really shitty 90's music.
@@gab.lab.martins "Jani Lane wrote it in 30min, hated it, but the label forced them to put it", well don't write crap songs then. Grunge was just superior, massively superior to the crap that was ubiquitous just before it broke, and still is.
@@gab.lab.martins
Hard rock wasn't the issue as many hard rockers flourished in the 90s. What Nirvana and Pearl Jam ended was the mid to late 80s "LA" Glam metal scene. Spandex, chick hair, chick makeup, etc, was done. It was time for a change and most hard rockers praised Nirvana and Pearl Jam for ending it.....The good ones did. Most of the legends did. Keep in mind too that both gangsta-rap and pop-country were also REALLY taking off and becoming way more mainstream in the early 90s as well. Cheers.
@@ringtail1401 right, cuz when you have a poorly negotiated contract in which you either do exactly what the label tells you or you have to pay millions of dollars in fines for breaching it, it’s easy to write a great song that is also radio-friendly after the entire album has already been recorded in time for the release date. Piece of cake.
@@gab.lab.martins I remember Jani Lane saying that back in the day. Good times!
I love how all the seattle grunge bands were collective and worked together and helped each other out so much.
I will never get over Chris's death..This was a man who I thought was going to live for another 20 to 30 years and put out more great records. Biggest loss in rock music in my opinion.
Get over it.
Ghey. Kurt's death had a bigger negative impact on music
@@mennofennema9829 No need to be rude..I did say this was my opinion,and you can't change that.
@@brandonstandberry8236 Ahh, so you're the Brandon that everyone has been cheering for recently?
I completely agree, he was remarkable 💔🤍
Thankyou so much for this series. Nirvana, Soundgarden, Alice In Chains, changed me, changed my life, and changed the world for a little while. I still listen to their music and it's still as exciting and powerful as it ever was. ✊
All of the guys in Alice, Soundgarden, Pearl Jam & Nirvana are my age and part of Gen X. It was an amazing time for their music.
Pearl Jam isn’t grunge
@@wilhathaway1987 everyone calls them grunge. But the all wise Wil Hathaway only needs 1 sentence. PJ isn't grunge. Now I get it.
Yes I'm Gen X and lived in the Seattle area. I have such a sense of pride and feel so lucky to have been apart of the Seattle scene. What memories, and an amazing time to be in my early 20's. I still rock out to that music cuz there just hasn't been anything good enough to pull me away. My kids grew up listening to it and they love it as well. Alice has always been my favorite and I still miss Layne to this very day..
I loved Gnr and all thrash metal. But when AIC Nirvana STP mother love bone and Soundgarden came out i never looked back. Thank god for the 90s
Grunge represented the state of the world at the time. The Excess of Sex and Partying after the crash and Aids pandemic just didn't fit anymore and that gave rise to anything that represented the antithesis of excess... Hence Grunge grew and changed Rock forever...
For something that supposedly represented the antithesis of excess, they sure had a hefty percentage of people dying from overdoses or drug-related deaths, either at the time or later.
Oooo touché
Yes it did change rock. It made rock and metal music a bunch of sissys. A sausage fest, the “serious” “edgy” “elitism” bs.
It was the last truly great rock scene. There are good rock scenes that happen to grow and flourish every few years. But has anything surpassed the true greatness of the Seattle Scene critically and commercially?
Yup
I think the last great rock scene was the garage Rick revival in the 2000s. Lots of good music came out then and I think it’s time we give those bands recognition like those from the 70s 80s and 90s.
@@deft__12 That was a good rock scene...great bands...but not one of the great scenes. The Brit-punk scene of Libertines, Bloc Party, Arctic Monkeys is another really good rock scene...but not one of the all time great rock scenes. Seattle 1992, is like England 1965, New York 1977...THE all time great scenes. My favorite eras in rock are like A tier and B or C tier level scenes...lesser known but sometimes more interesting.
@Mr. Snickett okay...yep
absolutely right!
I absolutely loved this series! I never wanted it to end, insightful and emotional!
Grunge will live on forever ♾
Rest in peace to all the incredible artists
Missed eternally 💔🤍
Loud wire THANK YOU from the bottom of my heart for this amazing segment on grunge wow
Grunge rocks!
No, grunge grunge
@New Life New Rules
I remember you. You ate a lot of paint chips as a kid.
Also, other than 'grunge', there was another sound of music that changed the music scene for the better in the late 80's and early 90's. And that was Industrial Metal. With bands like Nine Inch Nails and Ministry. Good times!
@@Johnnymack666 And so tell me......now that you're 14 you still listening 'Sniff'rvana ?!? ...just curious, pal 😆
PS : 1 single track, any of them by NIN, can easily overwhelm grunge itself......so wonder where this sarcasm against NIN and others comes from 🙃
Also, other than 'grunge', there was another sound of music that changed the scene for the better in the late 80's and early 90's. And that was Death Metal. Good Times!
"The ONLY truth I know......is a look in your eyes!!! Stigmata....Stigmata!!
@@JellyRoger_XIII you wish. NIN in the prime couldn’t go up against ANY of the leading grunge bands. Johnny Cash even took Hurt away
Grunge music showed emotion, vulnerability that's why is was so relatable why so many were called to it we feel vulnerable at times and songs with such vibes are the songs that change who you are you grow and understand just my thoughts
Guess people had enough of "Hair Rock" and were looking for a more raw and pure style of rock....I
Glam Metal Killed itself when the started to Look like girls it used to scare ppl Because u would look at Twisted Sister, W.A.S.P and Mötley Crüe they looked scary
You had me at Grunge.
Just the other week I saw STP play at the Rust Belt in East Moline for my first concert ever and they absolutely rocked. I unfortunately never got to see them with Scott Weiland as I would have been a little kid when he was still in the band, but Jeff Gutt was a great showman with a lot of swagger. I even got my ticket signed by Eric Kretz, which was super cool of him.
Dude Scott Weiland with stp was amazing, talk about someone sounding identical live as they were on their albums, and he always had a megaphone he used on stage lol..one of my fav bands of all time luckily got to see them 3 times in a span of 2 years right before he passed
It sucks that these great grunge singers are gone. Grunge is not dead to me, I enjoy it every day. 🤘
I know right
Thanks for making this series. But you didn’t raise the next question: will there ever be another grunge movement? Will there ever be a grunge revival? Are there any bands out there in the underground DIY scene actually creating a new groundswell that has potential? Matt Pinfield knows…he is on top of everything. Everything. Ok…don’t look over your shoulder because the new wave of grunge bands are coming for you 🔊🖤
I guess i never grew past this time because that's still the music I gravitate to. I didn't quite get the phrase "it spoke to me" till this time. I was a teenager, didn't know a damn thing about the world. Trying to figure things out and find the meaning of it all. Hell, in 2023 I still am. Since then I crave lyrics that mean something. Tell a story or a thought and I'm SO grateful i lived through this time because people in the present are really missing out on some music that can actually speak TO them.
I saw Chris Cornell on the Higher Truth tour about 6 months or so before he died, I'm really glad I did. I was an amazing show and I bought the vinyl at the show and play it frequently.
I bought my first guitar on September 25th 1991, a piece of me died when that shotgun went off in Kurts house that day, i was at a Pearl Jam show the night before, the news broke, i was devastated. Love the binaural shirt.
Grunge made me appreciate rock music that preceded it even more
The switch over was completely unnatural and non organic. It was an attempt to change culture and it did. For like, 2 years.😂
STP and Alice rule!
I heard that Alice Cooper once had an stp.
@@MichaelKerr71 COMMENT...
MOVE
👈🤟👊🤛 📌😎...
@@shizz812 "Wink Emoji"
AIC can’t be replaced
8:10 It's called smiling depression. I'm living with it too.
I was born in 99 so this was kinda before my time but I've always been a lover of this genre. The music of the 90s has been with me through good times, bad times, and everything in between. Much love to people who created an atmosphere for music to be authentic work of art.
One of the things that is so sad about Grunge is how encapsulated it was. I mean for other types of music before and after you could see live for years and decades after. With grunge the larger bands either had major members pass away, quit, or end their bands early in their career. We will never know what could have been with Kurt, Layne, and others. We will never get those reunion tours or ever a new album from them. My generation got cheated both musically and culturally by the passing of so many great artists.
All I know is if there are prolonged periods of cloudy weather I don't feel right. When I lived in London I was moody most of the time, even after 10 years of living there. It's sneaky and because it's natural you don't give much thought to it but it slowly eats up your positive energy.
Such a great video! Grunge came around when I was in my early teens. I agree with alot of what is said in this video. Pearl Jam and Nirvana especially made me feel. Helped me understand and accept pain, grief, depression, angst. Grunge as a whole opened my eyes to so much in life. Not just music
When I was about 15 or 16 I did LSD for the first time and I was outside tripping balls and standing on this big ass rock and was well, rocking back and forth a little bit and someone played Pearl Jams Alive and we put it on repeat and I remember staring at the sky and rocking, literally and figuratively and thinking that Alive was the best song in the universe and it was, well....LSD so, you can imagine, but yeah, that's when I really started getting into Pearl Jam,1995 or 96,many winters have passed mi amigos 🤘
It definitely did! And also after the genre is dying its spawn new genres that literally "go mainstream" which is Post Grunge and Nu Metal
Despite the fact that both of those were less popular then grunge and bands like slipknot being far less mainstream then nirvana
Listen i worked for a hairspray company, Grunge music nearly put us outta business lol
Grunge will never be my thing, but I appreciated this video.
Rock ‘n’ Grunge
Everyone in the video saying they didn't expect Cornell's death; how could you not?! The guy was visibly depressed, had been for years, recluse and could barely smile. I wasn't shocked at all when the news came out.
He always had a “concerned” facial expression. I never thought he was depressed. Heck, I thought he would still be alive for 2 to 3 more decades.
@@M_D93 “concerned”? Mate, he was depressed. If someone is always looking tense and pensive, there’s something wrong with them.
Yeah I had a mild depressive episode once and it sucked so fucking much. This guy had severe depression for his entire life, I'm actually surprised he didn't kill himself earlier.
Like Elvis in 1954 Change pop Sinatra to RocknRoll, Grunge and Nirvana, especially, lunch Alternative music to be reckon with to the masses. And I thank Kurt Cobain for this, for ever... I was 19 when Nirvana revolution happen. And am grateful! Grunge was it's own movement that began in 1984 in Seattle and died in 1994. The 1990s was the beginning of Alternative music that change the pop world, finally.
4:01 So if it's a mental illness, then these people should be in a hospital getting treated.... but NO.. suicide is never noble 5:22 and it's selfish. These people never seek aid and those that supposedly care, leave them alone with their mortal thoughts to kill themself. Seek help you think life sucks. And Courtney had Kurt murdered. Stop ass rimming Courtney's suicide narrative, that's a lie! Research.
Simple answer:
It got rid of that parody of rock music known as hair metal, or hairball rock.
@Ralof it was way better than hair metal, and it also influenced a lot more. You see lots of bands influenced by grunge and alternative bands from the 90s, but not many by hair metal. You could almost treat hair metal as a joke.
Glam Metal went Shit when Mötley Crüe stopped being Satanic
Grunge is the saddest waste of space genre Atleast L.A Metal was funner plus Thrash and Speed Metal is superior to both
@@heavymetal9448 Motley Crue was a good band, but was Vince Neil supposed to be a singer?
@Ralof no Mötley Crüe was a good band but Fuck W.A.S.P and Cinderella are awesome
I'm Glad I Saw Chris With Soundgarden Before He Past Away Opening To NIN Awesome Show
Sorry to say it but Grunge did not set the precedent for singing about mental health issues, drug issues and suicide.
The 60's was prolific for all of that but I believe 1920's blues started it.
In the 60's Black Sabbath and Pink Floyd were two bands who didn't flinch at discussing the topics, and Suicide Is Painless (best known as the theme song from M*A*S*H*) dealt quite bluntly with the topic of suicide and was written by Mike Altman who was only 14 at the time.
Hell even the hyper masculine Thrash scene produced songs such as Fade To Black and My Darkest Hour.
Great series. Thanks!
Soundgarden was not a pure grunge band. Yes they made some grunge songs but they preached Doom Metal.
Another thing is all the other bands from Seattle admitted that Soundgarden was the best from the scene
Hahaha. Why do metalheads always want to claim [insert grunge band here] for their own? You're allowed to like both metal and grunge, you know. Soundgarden were a grunge band. It's okay. You can like that
"Soundgarden weren't grunge but all the grunge bands thought they were the best grunge band" HAHA. Like wtf are you even talking about
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Imagine not including grunge as subgenre of Metal 😂😂😂
SOUNDGARDEN IS THE BEST PERIOD.
MATT CAMEROOOOOOON
As a young boy growing up listening to grunge turned me into a grown man currently listening to progressive metalcore.
And thus you have returned to being a young boy
Yes
Smithereens, another darker sounding band before alternative went mainstream. Age and other factors meant they were not “grunge”. Their sound is very similar to some grunge hits.
Not all grunge music was dark. People read into lyrics too much. And honestly these people suffered a lot of mental health issues, not to mention in Seattle at the time in the 80s, heroin just came around there big time, so it was hard to avoid, especially once they got big and needed a way to deal with the pressures of having to please everyone and be perfect. Money doesn’t buy happiness, if anything, it makes it worse when you gravitate towards it to fix your problems and suddenly realize it doesn’t solve any problems.
There was a definitely a collective fuck this world attitude in pacific northwest music scene in the 80s 90s..
Chris Cornell's suicide was shocking indeed, but there is zero argument to be made that his was the most shocking of all. Kurt Cobain's suicide was inconceivable at the time
I am sure, the 70’s kids that went through divorce or indifference from parents…have had a rough go….we were the first to live through enmasse broken homes and there was no guide book
took long enough for them to mention Andrew Wood! how do you talk about Temple of the Dog and not mention Andy?
Well if Nirvana were primarily responsible for inspiring the creation of Oasis, then I've found the one negative thing about grunge. That's a biggie tho. Cos Oasis suck
"Was it a movement?" How is that even a question? YES! It was one of the the greatest and the last movement in rock history, I hope to see another in my lifetime but since then, the early to mid 90's, there has been nothing on or close to that level. Nu metal? nope lol not quite sorry, the industry has been dying since then. Capitolism and corporate greed has chewed and shit out the music industry, look at pop today. Thank fuck tho! bands are finding their own way on the internet and within their local scenes, original contemporary rock, with instruments won't die.
I always love Pearl Jam 🎤 🎸 🥁 🤘🏻 😁
Thanks for your work. A shame it seems like it's underappreciated. I mean just 12k views and ~500 likes with 1.8M subscirbers....
"I don't know that you could find a regional music scene of such breadth and depth..." Uh, let's see. How about Dixieland Jazz circa 1920s, Delta Blues circa 1930s, Texas Rockabilly circa 1950s, New York Punk circa 1970s, London hard rock circa 1970s...I could go on right up until today, but this statement is really hyperbolic and ignorant.
Escapism to realism and all that that revealed
It's still to early for me to revisit the 90's rock scenes. Maybe another 10 years. I mean no doubt it was time to end the 80's hair metal, power ballad dribble, but the industry just gets stale after trying to milk a trend to death and now for the first time there is no fresh rock scene, anywhere.
Yo matt! No way! Shit i feel old now haha
All is One 😊
This was gen x telling the world we don't give a fuck. We have a story to tell, this is us, raw, emotional, take it or leave it!! We don't care!!
evet
At least Mark Lanegan has passed away at last February RIP
Kim Thayil looks like 1000 years old
I wish I still had my Binaural tour shirt 👕 😪
👏 👏 👏 👏
You didn’t have to fit a sound? If you didn’t sound “alternative“, you didn’t get any airplay or any way of reaching a wider audience.
Also, giving yourself the pat on the back for being “authentic” and so “pure” about your music is itself a pretension.
Grunge had its moment, just like Glam Metal had its, and Nu Metal with its after Grunge, and where Rock is now, well that is a mystery. I had had enough rap by about 1988, and it won’t go away, kind of like some unwanted rash. The problem with grunge is that it was mostly depressing, and tried to be relevant about a lot of bullshit social issues. It’s only by the fact that there were some basic pop songs underlying it that it remains great music. It had a higher rate of deaths than other forms, probably because there was nihilism along with the aesthetic, everything was sooooo serious. Didn’t they learn anything from Hendrix, Morrison, Joplin, Moon, Bonham, the list is forever.
GrungeWire
hot girl, my kinda girl, hot hot and long live grunge
It died 25 years ago. Thank God
Creativity
Mental illness
Drug abuse
I think that each one grows out of and feeds into the other two
It's noisy, distorted music that's depressing and cynical and people enjoy it; suicide reached an all-time high subsequent to this music form emerging; I think drug related deaths increased too and not only because of population growth. Grudge music feels angry and hopeless . . . "Get Together And Love One Another" by The Youngbloods or "Age of Aquarius" by The Fifth Dimension come to mind as happy rock songs. Now we have lyrics like "world of human wreckage" and "staring down the barrel of a .45" and "black balloon" . . . Ye Gadz.
Really? I didn't know people still thought this way...
I.mean it was cool that a very average musician thought he could get signed but has everyone forgotten about the 1000s of terrible grunge bands because we only hear the good stuff like the big 4 or outside of that buthole surfers are sonic youth all those bands were the very best of the grunge genre and absolutely great bands in any genre but man there was tons of shit absolute shit Kurt's death was a big reason for the death of grunge but the 1000s of shit bands is the other reason going to the store buying this horrible bands album because there labeled grunge pissed a lot of people off
Well, alls i know is that grunge certainly provided fertilizer for cemetery lawns .....about the only benefit of grunge
Ok, grunge is fine but it's just music, people take this so seriously, it's tiring!
Chris was murdered. People please talk about that
no way I will ever believe he committed suicide.. not never
No he wasn't murdered.
@@BelladonnaCureYeah for being a HUGE investor and starting a big charity to advocate for finding and throwing FVCKING SCUMBAG pedophiles and child sex traffickers in prison and throwing away the keys. He was a great human being and father and friend. I will miss him always.
This series is so cringey and so full of bullshit and mythmaking but Poneman comes off fairly self-aware. I'd watch an interview with him by someone who's heard of Flipper.
Grunge didn't change Rock n Roll. Record exec's and their Marketing team did. They actually killed Rock music all for the sake of a great payday. They were the ones who trashed Rock music and divided youth/ and 30 yr olds by labels on the guise of labels were bad. How in the hell do you do that.
I love grunge...but I still love way more the 80's hair metal, fair enough.
Bummer all I can say
grunge music seems to be cursed
Brian Jones, Jimi Hendrix, Janis Joplin, and Jim Morrison all died 1969 and 1971. It's not exclusive to grunge.
@@jasonsguitarjourney2060 yep
Chris did not kill himself
And he didn't like what they had him hanging from...
Sigh....Yes. He. Did....Sorry but he did.
It went from «music is there to make you forget your problems, even for just a little while» to «music is there to remind you how much life, and yours in particular, sucks».
No
80s hard rocks better
„Grunge tried to kill the metal. HAHAHA!
They failed, as they were thrown to the ground” 😎
Am I the only one who when they think of grunge, is pissed that Kurt Cobain blew his brains out and that meant more to people than the woman who actually started grunge! For those that don't know it was the band Bam Bam and their front woman Tina Bell, who is a amazing singer and a woman of color.
Who?
Grunge changed rock and roll by making great punk harder to find. Otherwise, it meant most hardcore guys like me went into Hip Hop because a lot of our guitar players did in the early 90s.
I was scoping Europe’s metal scene. And listening to pop, blues, bluegrass and zydeco. Because the grunge was everywhere and I couldn’t escape it.
The only good thing that came out of was Fu Fighters.
I thought it amazing when it happened…but now it’s just too much. Get over it already. Quit your crying and whining. I mean Corgan has been milking misery for 30 yrs.. How hard it must be to keep singing “Disarm” every night…Life is good. Most of us made it through.
Grunge was cool until it wasn’t
It fucking ruined rock and roll.
Grunge sucked. Still sucks. Always will suck.
@@ImAllYours247 Yeah, but this is about Grunge.
Grunge actually killed rock and roll 🖕🖕
No, it was already dead from over-saturation of the millions of crappy spandex-clad bands putting out the exact same song over and over again. Grunge came along and revived rock and roll, reminding the industry and public of authenticity in brilliant simplistic song writing. But sure, go with Cinderella instead, lol
Nah it was already dying by 1989, grunge made it fresh again and revived it for a few more years. Post-grunge, nu metal, emo, pop punk and all that garbage killed rock.
Grunge rock was garbage.