Thank you for making this video. Many Kpop fandoms including my own BTS have been infiltrated for years by false accounts which are really run by different companies, countries’ troll farms, political ideologies, etc. These accounts don’t do anything to really support the group but intersperse posts about the group in with disinformation about their real cause. At this time it’s out of control & ARMY has scattered. Hopefully real humans who are ARMY will reunite when BTS returns. 🙏🏽
true and i personally took a break from X, i just look once a week to see if there is any news. i think many army´s do the same so now it may seem like we are outnumbered and some might be out og social media and dont even know about j-hopes album. or maybe they are saving to BTS return. i have bought j-hopes album and waiting for the other albums and singles i know the members planned a lot but recently it has been less maybe one thing a mouth so it makes taking time off from X a little easier. so that could be some of the reasons for this change. i am not saying that multis and solos are not ruining it too, because they are. but i hope many is just like me. i am old and tired of drama i hate the anti´s on X it breaks my heart seeing the members getting attacked but i wont answer back because i will never be able to convinse that they are wrong. so there is no use anymore i have tried before. and eng is not my first language so it makes it a little harder
Influencers and social media can be boycotted as well, I check different sources and make up my mind based on real information. And I support JHope wholeheartedly, buying and listening to his music. On the street is really good. I endorse number 5 as well. Thanks for your explanation. And I will continue to listen to the music that I like. 💜💜💜💜💜💜💜
Way back when I entered "Koreaboo-ness", idols were plastic dolls, all more or less the same. The hip thrusts and aegyo meant nothing, Now with the Lives and shows like Suchwita and In The Soop, idols are suddenly HUMAN! As an unashamed SIiver ARMY, I like it better this way.
This is what I believe and I sincerely want this to be spread. BTS members have changed the face of Kpop for thr better and hopefully all people entering the world of what true artists are in this world of music art and dance. These artists deserve to be heard. BTS FOREVER. My heart is with them, they helped me and others so much when we needed help. Senior Army. 🇦🇺 😇😇😇😇😇😇😇
I'm an older lady in the U.S. and lately I've been on social media less and less because I cannot stand all this nonsense. I'm really disheartened that man/woman-kind stoops so low. It really makes me feel like this entire world is in deep trouble if we can't come together and be supportive of each other. Hate begets Hate. So terribly sad that we live in such a hateful world. I will also continue to listen to Who I like, When I like, and How I like...and though you asked not to mention names or groups, I will just say that my "like" includes BTS - all 7 members and I will support J-Hope, and Jung Kook on this effort and all the other BTS members in their efforts as well. Anyway, I'm just one little old soul but I want to tell you I thoroughly enjoy your videos. You do your research, you present all sides fairly, and you present the information well. Thank you for that!
You have to be careful about what you read and be able to engage brain and think where did this come from and why who gains from this what is their real purpose who's paying them
I'm also on a Twitter break because of the k-pop fandoms full of ignorant arrogant middle school dropouts and their fave companies. It's too much bs n negativity out there. I will buy stream vote for BTS, stand with ARMYs without having to see those uneducated, sly ppl's twts.
Lol I totally agree with you. I am too old to deal with this shit. Clean your own backyard before sticking your nose into someone else's backyard. And don't try to tell me what to do lol I love your take on this ❤❤❤
100 % agree from a Gen X’er - no time for this shit! Just stay out of my way of getting to listen to my favorite music or supporting my favorite artist💜👍🏻
Thank you for making this shout out. I really disagree with those who claim to be army, but choose to use army power to push their own political and religious agenda! BTS has nothing to do with political gain. I hate it when they forcing their political "humanitary coated" view to ARMY fanbase. Same happening to namjoon when he got the false accuse scandal. But thank God namjoon stand on his ground and not apologizing. I hope Jhope also stand his ground. Because he works on music, not political issues. Somehow i wanna sing "so what" ❤❤❤
Exactly it’s very weird how hybe artists are specifically targeted and companies like sm and YG never face the same level of bombardment for their atrocities
Not true, a good example is BI, Lisa, Jennie, Big Bang...they all have been targets of some sort of defamatory tactics against the whole group or individual. Even YG himself and the company has gone through it.
Those companies have been accused plenty of times. G Dragon recently faced false drug accusations. His ordeal was way worse than any accusations BTS have faced. This time, the bad press has to do with Scooter Braun so Hybe artists will be brought up.
@@ro-zeea.8734 The last "palestine" campaign lashes out against all Big3 and HYBE. (and anyone seen with a Starbucks cup). I found it funny that (at least part of it) started the moment the new HYBE group dropped - like the HOUR it did. TWS still managed to get "suspicially" up on Melon and even managed to win a (or two?) show award. But they got more hate for that. So definetly campaigning - possibly from a label of a "smaller" artist(s). Whatever. It is not as big as painted and definetly a campaign against them all. And definetly not only against HYBE. (even f I find it funny how often SM was/is not called out on what they do their own artists - but this is an entirely different thing)
Friends, remember if you are the STAR and Popular you get all the attention thats the reason BTS is always their target because other groups cant get as much attention as our BTS. Why do you think so many reactions about BTS content. I've heard vloggers ( different channels) who were asked why do they feature just BTS..... They (vloggers) said" if we react to other groups we don't get a lot of views." "That's why we react more about BTS and besides we have more requests from ARMY so why would we spend our time with other groups if we can't get views".
Ikr, i bet those other agencies doin their best to drag their rival company down. But i see just like blinks did to army, their drags are not draggin 😅😅😅
Your channel is becoming one of my all-time favorites when it comes to K-pop news. You did an awesome job and thank you for breaking it all down. Blessings to you!
"I am too old to be peer pressured", that's me too. I am thankful that I found your channel. Whenever I go through social media and find something intriguing, I wonder if that was even true or not. But I end up not giving a damn and continue liking BTS anyway. I installed X to get faster updates but was disgusted to see the toxicity happening in there, like, don't these people (with fake accounts duh) have better things to do? Do they really dedicate their daily life spreading hate, like how do these people even earn a living? Haha. I appreciate the wisdom you share and hopefully younger audiences can be more thoughtful of what they see online. I'll do what I can to support BTS, streaming their work both as a group and as individuals etc. I believe their sincerity with their music will outlast all the hate being thrown against them. More power to your channel, salute!
Boycotting J-Hope because Scooter Braun said something about a situation where his opinions mean jack is absurd ngl. If someone thinks it's okay for him and other HYBE idols to be a collateral damage, they need to sit back and think how far they've strayed away from their cause.
social media is such a toxic beast, or it can be. i'm older; so, it holds no fascination for me. I don't click on "bait." if it's negative, there is no appeal. appreciate your taking the time to inform us about this phenomenon. be safe, everyone!
Excellent video again. Note particularly 7:59 and following. We have seen this tactic used on a world-wide scale since 2020 in particular. Having known quite a few people who had firsthand experiences with Hitler (survived the worst concentration camps, or were in Europe during the war) I was immediately aware of these tactics being used. Since it worked, it continues to infiltrate so many areas of society in general. Thank you for pointing it out and raising awareness for all of these tactics.
Reminds me of the slogans in "1984". But I have seen it in another "celebrity scandel" as well - despite clear evidence to the contrary. It's funny what you can do with stubborn repetition.
WOW! This was so right on point. How is boycotting a Kpop group advancing your cause/concern? If you truly care about your cause what have you done to help? What have you done to help people in your own country? I suspected some of this outrage is fake. Thanks for letting me know where it is coming from. If those who are boycotting Kpop groups really want to advance their cause, I hope they use their energy/money in a more constructive and helpful way.
And you can make money from it. I'm especially suspicious of people collecting money for protest trucks. You get certainly more money than you need for it - so why not keep the rest? or set out to scam multiple fandoms? I especially found one interesting that didn't even explain which BTS member they were "defending". Did they scam multiple solo fan groups for it? I think so.
I really love that you covered this. These are good tools for everyone to keep in mind no matter what current issue is spreading. Having been through a few cycles of this style of ‘indoctrination’ and having fallen for it before I am now very wary of any movement that tries to inspire a black and white moral frenzy in me. The truth actually sits very heavy on the soul, leaving you with a clearer understanding of the problem whereas these tactics prey on your emotions, making you anxious, angry and emotionally discombobulated.
I'm so very tired of people (fans) jumping on any bandwagon to destroy another group. And for the content creators who spread the hate. Thank you for your video clearing these issues up. If you dont like a group. Don't listen to them. That is the best negative thing you can do. The second best thing you can do is listen to the group you like. Trying to boycott just leads to their fandom increasing their listening. Its best not to say anything see? You also increase the hate that is aimed at the group you like harming them. You are detrimental to your own fandom. Eventually you discredit yourself. Who wants to follow or continue to listen to negativity and hate? Eventually you will get sued for defamation and lose much of your own property/money. I don't wish this on anyone but you'd deserve every bit of it if you are lying.
I'm really grateful for you speaking about these things, because it is very hard to avoid seeing a lot of content created just to make you angry - and get you to do something. It's so hard to know how to deal with these things when you see them. Thank you, your videos are always great!
You did this BEFORE the current plagiarism accusations against BTS, accusations of poor singing of Le Sserafim at Coachella, attacks on Illit. Everybody needs to see this video.
I'm finally getting to all the videos I've missed. This is a super good point. I do tend to believe that if I see an article that says "The fans are freaking out!". It's not a lie, 2 people could be freaking out or maybe 100. But out of ~90m Army, you have to provide me with more of a case. Anything over 75% of engaged Army could cause me to really look closer. That's "most". However, it's easy to start that snowball rolling down the hill. Media has and always will be a money making machine, yet we are still conditioned to listen when something big comes up. I always tell people to remember: Controversy sells. There is big money to be had spreading malicious rumors not to mention all the other ways a smear campaign can benefit someone else. Idk why I write so much.
I'm a newbie fan of bts. Every day 💜 by listening to you, ARMY, and bts make me realize how much brains are in and behind that formidable band K-pop and make love Bts and ARMY more 💜 💜💜💜💜💜💜 ❤
Put your own house in order first - so true! And, yes, I, too, am too old to put up with some of this....stuff😁. Thanks again for a well balanced, informative video. Always enjoy your take on things!🙏
You can do both at the Sametime and it becomes problematic when your country is contributing to harm. If your country isn't then that's a different argument.
i remember korean labels doing it with BTS they even talked about it in the book. and also i heard TXt got boycut from shows because of relations with BTS and also le serrafim that got way out of control. but funny enough it didn´t make an effect on their success so far. they are trying really hard now using these tactics, but after Hybe got so much power and credit as a label it does not have the same effect as it used to, so they are trying so hard. the only agency i never hear anything about is SM and jyp. YG had some scandals recently but the other two has nothing. because Hybe dont do the same dirty tricks they use. jyp for instance is the only label who is not on weverse that alone is a red flag to me. they would rather take down the competition that is Hybe instead of sharing a platform.
This is such a thoughtful and informative video. Thanks again for your hard work and effort to educate us. ❤ It's just a shame that some in the comments still don't get it. 😢
Im.almost 50 but when my country is using MY money to fund wars or meddling with other nations then yes it is in my backyard. I dont care what kpop groups or famous people do or dont do. Im too old for that. But yes in america we do need to concentrate on issues here but when billions are given to other nations yet we dont even have universal healthcare and our schools are crumbling in some cities the yes both are related.
I'm very very old and don't appreciate a lot of today's music. Much to my surprise I slid down the rabbit hole and became a member of the BTS army. I only log on to X to look at the army posts and I have moderated my timeline well and don't catch most of the nonsense that goes on. However, this garbage has leaked through my defenses recently and I've been highly disturbed and somewhat puzzled by it all. Thank you for clarifying some of the issues. Absolutely love your videos.
I would like to thank you for doing this video. I've been following for a while and really enjoying the topics in which you speak on. I get educated every time. So, thank you so much. I learn something every time I watch. I like the fact that you do so much research & fact finding to show the truth of things. Keep up the good work!😉👍🏾💜💜
Wow....looks like mostly HYBE artists, could be wrong but looks mostly like HYBE artists they're going after. I hope in cases like this, the K Pop industry comes together, because all of this would benefit the western industry to have the K Pop industry go away or fandoms fighting each other. With K Pop fighting each other, the western industry doesn't have to, they can sit back and watch the "fighting" and set their sights to the top, something more meaningful. It's crazy how bad the tactics have gotten, never mind the hard work, long hours the artists put, let's just be like little kids, tell lies and hope everybody blindly follows. My opinion, the K Pop industry puts way too much weight on "words", the minute anything negative comes out on an artist, the artists come under fire from the company "fans", media and then it turns out sometimes to be completely false and the artists has lost their job (way of living), their dream, but no, lets keep going people, lets ruin more lives. FANDOMS, wise up, don't fall for everything, don't join every fight without KNOWING the facts. It's so bizarre to me how much of the past is brought up, front and center in the K Pop industry, like nobody else has a past of mistakes, like they've never made a wrong decision? As corrupt as the industry is as a whole and yet they go after the artists, really? Hate? Wow....if a person really HATES someone, they really don't have ANY love for themselves and put all their time and effort into destroying someone else's happiness, only because they don't love or respect themselves. The crazy thing is, the fan(s) helping to destroy other artists, if a group of people came at them the way they go after artists, they wouldn't last a week with so much pressure being put on them, having to defend themselves ALL the time. AGREE, accountability!!! WELL SAID!!!
The last one goes against all Big3 and HYBE artists trying to sabotage streams/listens. They just never called it of and some people wonder if they still should keep doing it or what. Lack of information keeps these trends going.
As sad it may sound.. Yes there are people who are happy because others are suffering. Selfish people are rampant in the Kpop industry. Or they are threatened because HYBE is getting bigger than the other agency.
Even netizens boycotting for the "right" reasons are in the wrong and cheapening their own cause. Making a fuss about an idol drinking Starbucks, forcing your own beliefs and expectations of behavior on someone else, creating controversy and comment wars. It's not bringing awareness to whatever cause netizens are trying to advocate. It's cheapening the cause and the entire conversation becomes about the idol and not about the cause itself. Everyone's takeaway isn't that Starbucks is bad or which side is right, but rather than so-and-so idol did something to make fans angry. Cancel culture is getting ridiculous. Idols can't sneeze without an outcry that their sneeze offended a fan because they sneezed into their right elbow, which is sacred to the fan's culture and the idol should have sneezed into their left elbow, and known about this and been sensitive to other people's culture despite not being from that culture that accounts for .0000000001% of the world's population. Like, c'mon.
Thank you for this video. People are allowed to have opinions that we may not agree with and no amount of bullying is going to change that. I don't agree with many people I work with on serious issues, but I cannot demand that they be fired because of their beliefs. There are laws that prevent that. And no, morality does not get rid of legality. I can totally disagree with someone, but understand that they are entitled to their opinion just as I am mine. I focus on what I can realistically do to be effective. I would never advocate something that I would consider unfair if the situation was reversed. BTS will be just fine as they have fans who will always support them. I am one of them. Maybe the ones who are disappointed or have issues with what BTS are doing should find other artists to enjoy. When I am not interested in something, I give it no attention or energy. Trying to bully others never works because people do not like bullies. It always backfires badly.
I guess I am just too old (72) to understand fans who find it necessary to pull down someone to make their bias look better. I can only say they are sick . Thankyou for such a balanced channel , sometimes it’s necessary to call out these people it’s not a negative post it’s something that needs to be said .
I just think you were not aware/interested when it happened decades etc. ago. MJ was campaigned against. So where the Beatles. I just think in Idol music it is more compressed/intense and people talk about it more. But I do wonder now about the so-called "One-Hit-Wonders".
@@ruthfischer7615 OH believe me I am well aware people have tendencies to “ cut the tall poppy” in the past , I was there for the Beatles , Michael Jackson and many more but in the past there wasn’t the internet which has made it so much worse , the personal attacks, lies ,innuendos , AI , oh one of my pet hates “I heard “, or three people said so it must be true , don’t think for yourself or research ! .
So what we can do is to give our full support to our BTS and to the solo albums. 💜 stream their songs, vote in awards shows if they are there as a group BTS or Solo nominations because they are still BTS versus other artist.
THANK YOU for making & posting this video.. It was quite informative & made from a positive aspect. I had no idea about some of the things brought up in this posting. So THANKS again! I believe we should be "wise as serpents and harmless as doves." We ALL would be better off if we did. 💜
This has really gotten out of hand. I am an army to support BTS and their music in any kind of way I can. MY OPINION: Politics and religion should be left out of music.
EXECUSE ME..But WHY Do You State It Would BENEFIT Western Artist's If K-Pop Went Away ?? IDK WHAT COUNTRY You Are From, BUT I WILL MAKE IT " CLEAR" TO YOU THAT I'am From The U.S. & I Find It A LIE That Our Artist's Do Not Appreciate K-Pop..& Consider Them As " COMPETITION" OR TAKING AWAY FROM THEIR TALENT...BTS, Among Other's Have Been Loved & Admired By The Majority of My Country..If They Weren't, I'm SURE ANY K-POP GROUP WOULD COME HERE TO PROMOTE THEIR TALENTS..You See, WE DO NOT FORM OUR OPINION'S FROM WHAT " OTHER'S TELL US", WE ARE NOT OUT TO " DESTROY" OUR ARTIST'S, THIS IS NOT WHAT " CONSUMES" US, As ( Judging From This Presentatiom), S. KOREAN'S DO...Has " Anyone" Noticed The Amount Of Suicides OF YOUR Artist's & Actor's Have Committed? I WONDER WHY?? IMO, IT'S FROM THE HARSH CRITICISM, GOSSIP, LIES, ALLEGED FALSE SCANDALS, ACCUSATIONS, THAT THE S. KOREAN'S BRING TO THEIR " OWN"..I USUALLY DO NOT COMMENT MUCH, I HAVE BEEN ATTEMPTING TO EDUCATE MYSELF ON KOREAN " CULTURE" & JUDGING FROM WHAT I READ & SEE, THAT IS CHANGING & NOT IN A " POSITIVE" WAY!! THE CONSTANT BASHING OF MY COUNTRY IS ONE THING I ABSOLUTELY WILL COMMENT ON..ALSO, FYI MY COUNTRY HAS IMMENSELY TALENTED ARTIST'S, That Have Actually Been or Have Featured K-Pop..If You Don't KNOW...ASK JK!!I Happen To Be A Huge Dan OF BTS, & UNLIKE THE PEOPLE IN KOREA I WOULD NEVER SAY ONE BAD WORD ABOUT THEM..EVER!! HOW DOES THIS RATE I YOUR COUNTRY?? QUITE THE OPPOSITE IF YOU ARE S. KOREAN...SO SAD!!!
I AGREE!!! And I say it every time it’s brought up and of course some snarky comment comes after about me “not caring”. Yeah, ok, you don’t know me… I care a lot about a lot of things but music is my refuge. I need time away from the shit of the world and fighting the good fight and music is where I go to relax and be happy. Sometimes I feel it’s all I have left in my life that does make me happy!
@@lorraineperez1845 ... Congratulation! you have fallen for your own countries propaganda. Leave all the "..." out because that sounds sarcastic and does not throw a good light on you or the country you are from. And stop screaming. Seriously. Watch bby gang mag "you are wrong about K-pop" and the following if you really want to educate yourself.
@neperez1845 Why are you Shouting it's off putting and rather rude. In fact the USA Music Industry is extremely corrupt I know I've worked within thank you. And yes they don't want Kpop any other non English groups getting into their charts unless they can make money out of them. eg under the table payments to USA Radio Stations. The USA music industry doesn't want groups/artist from other countries doing well with the USA unless they agree to sign with an American Entertainment company so they can rake a profit off them. It's all about these US Dollars. It's the nature of the industry it doesn't mean American artists might not want to work with artists from other place's but their companies will only allow it if they see it as advancing the US artist and therefore the US music companies.
@@eileencritchley4630 If YOU'RE REFERRING TO MY CAPITOLIZARION, YOU CAN SCROLL ON..I DO IT BECAUSE, I CAN...SO According To You Miss " I'VE WORKED WITHIN THE BUSINESS"...THEN, YOU MUST KNOW THAT THE "ENTERTAINMENT BUSINESS" IN EVERY COUNTRY IS ABOUT " MONEY"..NOT JUST IN THE WESTERN STATES..I'AM NOT STATING MY OPINION TO CREATE PROBLEMS WITH ANYONE, IT IS " MY OPINION" & IF YOU AREN'T " TIRED" OF U.S. BEING THE SOUNDING BOARD FOR " EVERYTHING"!! IF KOREAN'S HAVE NO PROBLEM DEGRADING THE PEOPLE OF MY COUNTRY, I WILL CHALLENGE THEM ON IT!!! I'AM " PROUD" OF MY COUNTRY, IF YOU'RE NOT...GREAT!! THAT'S YOUR CHOICE...
I agree. Actually i mention to Sam Richardson, PhD of Penn State Uni, cause he's classes are so insteresting about the communities and other items. ThankU, i really like it
Great video. Great research and unfortunately I have seen and read a lot of this crap going on. BTS forever. How can anyone be negative abt Jk and JHope? Sad💜💜💜💜💜💜💜
From my understanding this is (the boycotts especially to BTS & the members) like the “Break the Wings project” for BTS in the past but 2.0 version. (Heard this from an OG ARMY & I agree)
Thanks for making this video. Social media show come with a use with caution label for the very reasons you cited in the video. Just to add to some of your advice, I recommend that when you research a topic then use credible sources. Ensure you know the value of the information the site is providing. Also, use critical thinking skills when reviewing information and ask questions. Enjoy what you like.
Other fandoms paid or not can’t hurt JHope or any BTS members. Army know better, we know negativity. They should just build their own fandoms and work harder. I know BTS has been hit hard for ten-years. It doesn’t bother me because we know it’s all lies. Digital bullying will be dealt with by Big Hit. Their boycotting will never hurt BTS, they’ve tried hard for a decade!
Except I have seen it spread in the fandom. I'm not sure who is jumping on the train but some people are naive enough to do that. I think they even attacked a company (Mnet?) and were angry that they were banned. I found the last one suspicious because it began the hour TWS debuted.
@@ruthfischer7615 A lot of aren't fans but pretending in order to cause issues they are ' Muck rakers' as we Brits say. Shite stirers. However it works and those who are young, get caught up into their muck spreading. We need to try to try and weed these anti's/muck rakers out and help the new and younger members to understand they are being 'used' and being told a bucket of lies'. It's hard I know.
@@eileencritchley4630 That is hard. I tried on a tumblr account - and I got absolut refusal to even look - because I'm just a "Zionist" (they used different words but at the end of the day that is what they mean that or I'm the naive hater) Because they hate the "Zionist" Scooter Braun and not J-Hope as they say. That Hoseok would be the only hurt not Braun or the people in Gaza are not helped at all by it - goes straigt over their head. Too easily lead unfortunately. At least that person was pretty much the only one I still see posting.
Loved, brilliant! I am glad I was taught in school about propaganda and try to be on the look out for it and your video has educated me on even more tactics that are being used today. Thank you
These type people would have never survived the 70's, 80's or 90's as it was as tossed salad of everything complained about today with anyone famous. I guess we knew how to smell BS and turn our heads to the incoming with much tougher skin. I don't have time for it.
I don't think that is quiet true. I remember e.g. the campaigns against MJ. I remember what I was told about the Beatles and have seen the headlines. Propaganda always existed and helped form how we see history. One of the oldest can be found in a "book of the dead" where an ancient pharao claimed to have won a battle. Except it turned out he actually lost it. But because it was written in his grave...
@scher7615 but were you gullible to believe it all, spread it and make a fuss not knowing reality just by hear say? my point no internet then. Debate all you want, my self, my friends, my family and newspapers and magazines were our resources. Really don’t care about your retort. This is MY experience NOT YOURS. LoL
@@Paminjapan What arguement is "LoL"? And e.g. the Ems Dispatch was believed. In fact a lot of stories about the first WWI to get people to become soldiers was not true either. We see more of that now, But - as pointed out - throwing of fliers or the story of the book "Doctor Zhivago" are part of the propanganda. The medium and how much from around the world we have seen has changed but the subject in itself... I'm not so sure.
Benny Blanco is one of the nicest people in the music industry. My thought when I read posts like this is how do they even know if what is being posted on social media is true? It's ridiculous. Also, BTS, or any other artist for that matter, do not discuss a person's political stance before working with them.
Very informative video, thank you. The problem with AI is when it’s viewed by non native speaking persons. There are still problems with pronouns being wrong, speech lagging that native speakers pick up on but maybe someone not fluent would not recognize.
It boils down to your own personal values. Why can"t everybody be HAPPY when someone becomes successful? Because other people are jealous/envious of others who are better than them or better than their idols. Thank you for your insightful episode. The time you put into your research and to explain each one is remarkable. Kudos... more power....
What you are describing is the dark side of social media. This manipulating of information to cause havoc in business , entertainment personal etc. If someone doesn’t want the product for whatever reason, don’t buy it. Why tell untruths or exaggerations just to cause trouble. I’m sure this is just an every day event these days because society has become so mean spirited lately . This attitude has me very concerned. My philosophy is to do my very best to do no harm by my actions or words. Thank you for your thoughts on this issue.
I really think people need to stop trying to use BTS and others BTS is not involved in their political BS nor should they be to me it is absurd for people to try to tell others to change their lives just because they think they should BTS and other kpop groups don't want or need to be pulled into their polictics or their wars if they were they would offend other fans so it's not fair to ask them to support anyone on this issue they are good people and don't want or need to be involved in it I wish people would just leave them alone and let them breathe and serve their country in peace and do what they love most sry for the long rant but these people are getting out of control and I really hope the companies that are targeted sur these people 😊
I'm a baby Army learning as much as I can about BTS, I was drone to BTS because of Jimin, even though I am a baby Army I am a older individual, I love your reaction Channel on UA-cam I mostly watch to learn everything I can about BTS I'm not being critical I'm just trying to understand I have watched you talk about all the members which such respect an admiration and it could be I'm just going on my feeling, seems to me that you praise all the other members but not jimin I remember I can't remember which episode when u said that he was the first Asian to hit number one in history on the billboard hot 100 charts, them in the next breath you said he was the most disrespectful person in the industry if you don't mind could you please clarify that why is he the most disrespected person in the industry, I would like to see u give him some of the praise that you give the other numbers with all respect.
I really appreciate this essay except for one part. Are you saying that it is not okay to call people out when they do, or continue to do, something wrong? People in power, such as CEOs, especially need to receive backlash when they make bad decisions. Lee Soo-man, Jay Park and Scooter Braun have all done many of the things they have been accused of. It is important to call it out, especially when there is a pattern of behavior that could be harmful to other people like those younger or more vulnerable than you. There needs to be a balance.
These people are ridiculous. How many times do they have to be told that Korean economy benefits so much from BTS and all the guys solos. I'm glad you are explaining this. Thanks for educating the public. all singers get pitchy from time to time. Many things can cause it, a bad throat, problems with the in ears monitor, a problem with the mic, nerves, whatever. out of all Jimin's performances, I heard him get pitchy 3 times. 2 were in-ears trouble, and one was his sore throat. seems like only Koreans care about if a idol is dating as they get older. The whole dating thing in Korean is right out of the Victorian era. The Jenny/V gossip started up again but they took it too far and now Hybe has filed charges and we shall see. I would like Scooter out of the buisness personally for what he pulled on Taylor swift, but I'm not blaming or punishing others because of him. That's ridiculous.
They did that to MYG during BLM...just because, there was jim Jones in 'what do you think?' . The song was supposed to stir up some issues. At the height of the blm movement, some anti s uses that track as an excuse to drag Yoongi and accuse him of racism. Ppl didn't want to hear an explanation and just dragged him. And then turns out the song wasn't racist. No one apologized for that mess.
Exactly and some black ARMY were trying to explain how it was not racist and no one listened. A lot of rappers do that. But the antis just wanted to drag him and didn't even care about blm in the first place. In fact, a lot of army were hating on black army until it came out that BTS donated and showed support.
@@rodie3602 not every black person is knowledgeable abt topic k I as a Indian don't know everything abt my culture either, multiple Black artist has used the sample, if he was anti black ,shouldn't they hold accountable too but they understand arts when it comes to them
@@rodie3602 he didn't even add the sample,he was a main writer and producer of all song except 2 song of that album including this one and how can you put him on pedestal bcz you feel uncomfortable when that man is a artist and your black artist are using the sample too without backlash,
@@blossom6693 I don't really understand your point, I was just giving a coment to OP about how that jim jones incident included genuine, hurted, armys, not only "antis". I saw them. I didn't want to give an opinion about those armys. I Just wanted to clarify some info
For the first time I see someone talking about kpop with empirical evidence and from a point of view not blinded by fanaticism. Every day I see kpop news or crazy posts of fandoms acting like cults and despising others for not having the same tastes or mentality as you. In the last few days you see post mentioned Hybe and his groups for any nonsense, what if Yujin dresses like this or what if the new group ill't be the new New Jeans. This is the point we have reached that you have to go against the competition in such an atrocious way, the scandals that some Hybe idol is always going on about these days is nonsense. Thanks for your video, it contains a lot of valuable information that no one pays attention to as it should be.
What the US did to Iraq is similar to the situation now. Therefore, we have no right to take side or act all righteous. People need to stop dragging music into politics.
if you are not a child then actually act like an adult and boycott actual companies tha are in the BDS movement and not hybe because some army or most likely multi with a white sevior complexe that loves to be the main charcter and decided to smare bts 's brand aka poc who have been suffereing in the industry and make them the center of critics and mes them seen as zionists... that's is disgusting.@@ruthfischer7615
Can't there be anything done on the amount of ads in your videos? There's one every few minutes. It's seriously too much! Also, promoting Jordan Peterson, just NO! I'm sure you could've found another quote that explains the same sentiment.
I am surprised and disappointed that JHope was mentioned as an example when it was Jungkook who experienced the brunt of dirtymarketing tricks because of working with Scooter, is back-up dancer, JT and Usher who were called Zionist and as if that was bad. So many, including ARMY called to boycott his album and songs. ARMY did not even include his songs in their playlists. The dirty trick of payola accusations should have been discussed too.
Disappointed? Really? Why aren't you disappointed that Hobi is currently the target of boycott campaigns? All of the smears you mention are aimed at Hobi and Hope On The Street now. Can you not support more than one artist?
as long as hybe continues to associate with scooter, bts’ image will suffer. on top of his already awful reputation as an exploitive and conniving business man, he has a dying influence over the industry as most of his A-list clients have broken free from their contracts. him also declaring his violent Zionist beliefs on his public platform will of course be met with major backlash and disgust. he follows these instagram stories with other ones celebrating hybe and bts’ success, creating a link between those beliefs and bts’ image. as if they endorse his behaviour. he has gone as far as to call himself the mastermind behind seven’s success, as if bts haven’t worked for years to build their own legacy without a single crumb of his input. an army can knows he had ZERO parts in their success but how about a random local who happens to stumble across the article? i’ve already noticed how much disrespect jungkook has received from western stans, especially taylor fans, due to the mere association of scooter with his image. it has only hurt him and will continue to hurt bts if hybe doesn’t drop him. he is dead weight and ruins everything he touches.
You guys are being manipulated by Taylor Swift, who acted like a victim, but she is a Karen. Her father was one of the owners who sold her music to Scooter and made over $16 mil. Do you think she didn't know about it and acted like a victim on her post?
Personally, I can't stand that man. But I kinda agree about bts is gonna be attack as long as he's related to hybe, but also those people are just looking for a reason to hate. So, even if he got fired, they're gonna find another reason to complain about
This is such an amazing video, and of course the points provided apply to much more than K-pop. It's such a shame that you have failed to learn from this info so far. I feel sorry for you. 😢
If HYBE and BTS are going to be attacked because of him it won’t be by Army and that’s the line that is being drawn. If you’re trying to control them through boycotts and joining in on attack you can’t call yourself Army. Army supports BTS and their music. If you’re engaging in the negativity against them you’re an anti. I also don’t trust Scooter but it’s such an arrogant move to think you know better and try to control how a whole company runs from your couch.
Nah. BTS' image is fine. BTS' image is suffering in your head, not in anyone else's, certainly not in America considering 90% of the bigwigs in Hollywood are Jewish. It is YOU who is making BTS' image suffer, not Braun.
@@bt6248 (not) hitting the right notes and holding them is an objective reality, let alone a proper technique. A lot of people don't hear it and say others are lying or criticizing singers for no reason, which is sad and can be also harmful for the singer, because not admitting mistakes doesn't let you grow. With all due respect is literally me seconding the overall topic and arguments presented
How? By giving 46k qrt wishing him r4pe, calling him women over 1 single encore performance where his in ears are not even working, people even can't hear anything bcz of loud cheer ,I don't think any other idol has to go through this kind of hate train except jimin , he was singing it right way but backtrack and his voice was in two different places bcz he can't hear anything, It's only BTS where kpop fandom will collectively come together to hate on most brutal way and 24 hr later act like it never happened and use the same drag again and again, They filled the chart with sa joke on him and made official acc delete it and lie that hybe is editing his performance as if hybe is not a fucking outsider in industry and BTS were thrown out of nominations multiple times without explanation
First of all, Armys were boycotting hybe, not the artists. Second, it was requested by the Palestinian armys themselves. Third, i myself agree that religion and politics should be kept out, but this isn't a political issue, it's a humanitarian issue, innocent ppl are d!eing. Those brands are investing & supporting Isr@el. Openly supporting such a country is so immoral, i don't understand how you all see nothing wrong with that. Korea itself has a history of colonization, there are many koreans who are supporting Palestine. Even bts has talked about Palestine before, they'll never support you all. If you don't want to support those Palestinian armys, it's okay, but don't call them fake armys for standing up for their ppl. Just ignore if you can't help, that's the least you can do.
Tbh, I think activist armys have lost the plot on this issue long time ago. Seriously. It's not about not speaking up or not doing something, it's about focusing your efforts on things that matter. Believe me, sending a protest truck to Hybe does absolutely NOTHING to change things in Gaza. Instead, people should be organizing to protest governments supporting Israel, and AIPAC in the US. Those are the people who actually have a say in this whole mess. The protest trucks and idols cups of coffee are performative activism, I'm sorry.
@@RiotGrrrl10 And what made you think ppl aren't protesting?? 2 things can coexist!! Idols are influencers, brands are paying them & many teen fans follow them blindly, they try to copy everything they do & eat. Them using those products mean more addition in those brands & they're investing in Israel. Boycott is creating an impact, even if it's small. Plus, some idols who didn't know about the bds movement got to know about it bcoz we sent them emails informing them & they took action immediately. So don't say it's not doing anything. Their goal is to aware more ppl as possible & do things that can create impact not only directly, but indirectly as well. Plus, nobody's forcing you to participate, but ppl shouldn't harass those Palestinian armys & acs who're asking for it or comment on their efforts unnecessarily. We have the privilege to choose what we want to, it's their necessity rn.
@@YoursTAngel I agree with you when it comes to not harassing Palestinian armys. That's uncalled for. But if the whole effort is about awareness, I've seen next to nothing done about people directly responsible for the genocide and everything about protest trucks. Seriously, priorities! Two things can be done at the same time, true, but efforts and energy are not endless and should be focused way more on what can actually make more of a difference.
@@RiotGrrrl10 When did BTS openly talked about Palestine? I've never seen or heard direct political comments from them. They never had any statement on any geopolitical issues, even the Russo-Ukraine war or the frequent tensions between Japan and S Korea regarding their history. I remember one time RM showed fanarts from Palestine and Israel (quite a while ago) and he was accused in the comments for being pro-Israel. People just jumped into conclusions and assigning political roles to the idols just from one innocent action. So unless there're official statements/comments from BTS, you can't just assume what they think. Just saying. It's better to put your efforts and time to agencies that matter like your politicians or donor organisations instead wasting time boycotting idols like BTS' members who have no say in the conflicts in the world.
You are the consumer you can do what you want it's your money. Hybe is to be held account for their business dealings it's that simple. I'm not giving them my money we can support them in other ways
That narrative perfectly fit to what was discussed in this video. "The people who don't agree with me, don't do or take sides are equally as guilty". I don't give a sh*t about Scooter Braun or his affiliations but y'all talking like HYBE made an illegal trade or something. Make them accountable?? LMAO For what?
Thank you for making this video. Many Kpop fandoms including my own BTS have been infiltrated for years by false accounts which are really run by different companies, countries’ troll farms, political ideologies, etc. These accounts don’t do anything to really support the group but intersperse posts about the group in with disinformation about their real cause. At this time it’s out of control & ARMY has scattered. Hopefully real humans who are ARMY will reunite when BTS returns. 🙏🏽
true and i personally took a break from X, i just look once a week to see if there is any news. i think many army´s do the same so now it may seem like we are outnumbered and some might be out og social media and dont even know about j-hopes album. or maybe they are saving to BTS return.
i have bought j-hopes album and waiting for the other albums and singles i know the members planned a lot but recently it has been less maybe one thing a mouth so it makes taking time off from X a little easier. so that could be some of the reasons for this change. i am not saying that multis and solos are not ruining it too, because they are. but i hope many is just like me.
i am old and tired of drama i hate the anti´s on X it breaks my heart seeing the members getting attacked but i wont answer back because i will never be able to convinse that they are wrong. so there is no use anymore i have tried before. and eng is not my first language so it makes it a little harder
A lot of us have just taken longer breaks from X, we will support 3x
Safe return swiftly. 🙏
Influencers and social media can be boycotted as well, I check different sources and make up my mind based on real information. And I support JHope wholeheartedly, buying and listening to his music. On the street is really good. I endorse number 5 as well. Thanks for your explanation. And I will continue to listen to the music that I like. 💜💜💜💜💜💜💜
Way back when I entered "Koreaboo-ness", idols were plastic dolls, all more or less the same. The hip thrusts and aegyo meant nothing, Now with the Lives and shows like Suchwita and In The Soop, idols are suddenly HUMAN! As an unashamed SIiver ARMY, I like it better this way.
This is what I believe and I sincerely want this to be spread. BTS members have changed the face of Kpop for thr better and hopefully all people entering the world of what true artists are in this world of music art and dance. These artists deserve to be heard. BTS FOREVER. My heart is with them, they helped me and others so much when we needed help. Senior Army. 🇦🇺 😇😇😇😇😇😇😇
I'm an older lady in the U.S. and lately I've been on social media less and less because I cannot stand all this nonsense. I'm really disheartened that man/woman-kind stoops so low. It really makes me feel like this entire world is in deep trouble if we can't come together and be supportive of each other. Hate begets Hate. So terribly sad that we live in such a hateful world. I will also continue to listen to Who I like, When I like, and How I like...and though you asked not to mention names or groups, I will just say that my "like" includes BTS - all 7 members and I will support J-Hope, and Jung Kook on this effort and all the other BTS members in their efforts as well.
Anyway, I'm just one little old soul but I want to tell you I thoroughly enjoy your videos. You do your research, you present all sides fairly, and you present the information well. Thank you for that!
You have to be careful about what you read and be able to engage brain and think where did this come from and why who gains from this what is their real purpose who's paying them
I'm also on a Twitter break because of the k-pop fandoms full of ignorant arrogant middle school dropouts and their fave companies. It's too much bs n negativity out there. I will buy stream vote for BTS, stand with ARMYs without having to see those uneducated, sly ppl's twts.
Lol I totally agree with you. I am too old to deal with this shit. Clean your own backyard before sticking your nose into someone else's backyard. And don't try to tell me what to do lol I love your take on this ❤❤❤
THIS!!!!
Well said!
100 % agree from a Gen X’er - no time for this shit! Just stay out of my way of getting to listen to my favorite music or supporting my favorite artist💜👍🏻
100% agree with everything! I have always done this and will continue to do so!
Thankyou Fairlane 🌞
Thank you for making this shout out. I really disagree with those who claim to be army, but choose to use army power to push their own political and religious agenda! BTS has nothing to do with political gain. I hate it when they forcing their political "humanitary coated" view to ARMY fanbase. Same happening to namjoon when he got the false accuse scandal. But thank God namjoon stand on his ground and not apologizing. I hope Jhope also stand his ground. Because he works on music, not political issues.
Somehow i wanna sing "so what" ❤❤❤
Exactly it’s very weird how hybe artists are specifically targeted and companies like sm and YG never face the same level of bombardment for their atrocities
Not true, a good example is BI, Lisa, Jennie, Big Bang...they all have been targets of some sort of defamatory tactics against the whole group or individual. Even YG himself and the company has gone through it.
Those companies have been accused plenty of times. G Dragon recently faced false drug accusations. His ordeal was way worse than any accusations BTS have faced.
This time, the bad press has to do with Scooter Braun so Hybe artists will be brought up.
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The last "palestine" campaign lashes out against all Big3 and HYBE.
(and anyone seen with a Starbucks cup).
I found it funny that (at least part of it) started the moment the new HYBE group dropped - like the HOUR it did.
TWS still managed to get "suspicially" up on Melon and even managed to win a (or two?) show award.
But they got more hate for that.
So definetly campaigning - possibly from a label of a "smaller" artist(s).
Whatever.
It is not as big as painted and definetly a campaign against them all.
And definetly not only against HYBE.
(even f I find it funny how often SM was/is not called out on what they do their own artists - but this is an entirely different thing)
Friends, remember if you are the STAR and Popular you get all the attention thats the reason BTS is always their target because other groups cant get as much attention as our BTS. Why do you think so many reactions about BTS content. I've heard vloggers ( different channels) who were asked why do they feature just BTS..... They (vloggers) said" if we react to other groups we don't get a lot of views."
"That's why we react more about BTS and besides we have more requests from ARMY so why would we spend our time with other groups if we can't get views".
Ikr, i bet those other agencies doin their best to drag their rival company down. But i see just like blinks did to army, their drags are not draggin 😅😅😅
Your channel is becoming one of my all-time favorites when it comes to K-pop news. You did an awesome job and thank you for breaking it all down. Blessings to you!
"I am too old to be peer pressured", that's me too. I am thankful that I found your channel. Whenever I go through social media and find something intriguing, I wonder if that was even true or not. But I end up not giving a damn and continue liking BTS anyway. I installed X to get faster updates but was disgusted to see the toxicity happening in there, like, don't these people (with fake accounts duh) have better things to do? Do they really dedicate their daily life spreading hate, like how do these people even earn a living? Haha. I appreciate the wisdom you share and hopefully younger audiences can be more thoughtful of what they see online. I'll do what I can to support BTS, streaming their work both as a group and as individuals etc. I believe their sincerity with their music will outlast all the hate being thrown against them. More power to your channel, salute!
Boycotting J-Hope because Scooter Braun said something about a situation where his opinions mean jack is absurd ngl.
If someone thinks it's okay for him and other HYBE idols to be a collateral damage, they need to sit back and think how far they've strayed away from their cause.
If you call them, they weaponize the term Zionist and throw it around
This reasoning sounds like antis they are not ARMYs for sure.
@@EvaC3875 Lately there have been ARMYs who have been getting swept up in such rhetoric.
social media is such a toxic beast, or it can be. i'm older; so, it holds no fascination for me. I don't click on "bait." if it's negative, there is no appeal. appreciate your taking the time to
inform us about this phenomenon. be safe, everyone!
Excellent video again. Note particularly 7:59 and following. We have seen this tactic used on a world-wide scale since 2020 in particular. Having known quite a few people who had firsthand experiences with Hitler (survived the worst concentration camps, or were in Europe during the war) I was immediately aware of these tactics being used. Since it worked, it continues to infiltrate so many areas of society in general. Thank you for pointing it out and raising awareness for all of these tactics.
Yes I recognized and know of this one being used constantly politically and it’s morally disgusting.
Reminds me of the slogans in "1984".
But I have seen it in another "celebrity scandel" as well - despite clear evidence to the contrary.
It's funny what you can do with stubborn repetition.
WOW! This was so right on point. How is boycotting a Kpop group advancing your cause/concern? If you truly care about your cause what have you done to help? What have you done to help people in your own country? I suspected some of this outrage is fake. Thanks for letting me know where it is coming from. If those who are boycotting Kpop groups really want to advance their cause, I hope they use their energy/money in a more constructive and helpful way.
And you can make money from it.
I'm especially suspicious of people collecting money for protest trucks.
You get certainly more money than you need for it - so why not keep the rest? or set out to scam multiple fandoms?
I especially found one interesting that didn't even explain which BTS member they were "defending".
Did they scam multiple solo fan groups for it?
I think so.
Let's not ask such important questions to k-pop losers. All they know is how to walk on the road paved by BTS n still talk sht abt them.
This brought me a lot of peace in some way and opened my eyes to be more attentive to battles that are worth it. Thanks for creating and sharing.
Before J-hope, it happened to Jungkook.
yes the same tactic's just a different target one has to think what is their real end game.
No it didnt boycott started December and only merch not music stop lying
it happenned to jhope before jk... i'm so tired of these smare campaign
I really love that you covered this. These are good tools for everyone to keep in mind no matter what current issue is spreading. Having been through a few cycles of this style of ‘indoctrination’ and having fallen for it before I am now very wary of any movement that tries to inspire a black and white moral frenzy in me. The truth actually sits very heavy on the soul, leaving you with a clearer understanding of the problem whereas these tactics prey on your emotions, making you anxious, angry and emotionally discombobulated.
I'm so very tired of people (fans) jumping on any bandwagon to destroy another group. And for the content creators who spread the hate.
Thank you for your video clearing these issues up.
If you dont like a group. Don't listen to them. That is the best negative thing you can do. The second best thing you can do is listen to the group you like. Trying to boycott just leads to their fandom increasing their listening. Its best not to say anything see? You also increase the hate that is aimed at the group you like harming them. You are detrimental to your own fandom.
Eventually you discredit yourself. Who wants to follow or continue to listen to negativity and hate?
Eventually you will get sued for defamation and lose much of your own property/money. I don't wish this on anyone but you'd deserve every bit of it if you are lying.
I'm really grateful for you speaking about these things, because it is very hard to avoid seeing a lot of content created just to make you angry - and get you to do something.
It's so hard to know how to deal with these things when you see them. Thank you, your videos are always great!
You did this BEFORE the current plagiarism accusations against BTS, accusations of poor singing of Le Sserafim at Coachella, attacks on Illit. Everybody needs to see this video.
I'm finally getting to all the videos I've missed. This is a super good point. I do tend to believe that if I see an article that says "The fans are freaking out!". It's not a lie, 2 people could be freaking out or maybe 100. But out of ~90m Army, you have to provide me with more of a case. Anything over 75% of engaged Army could cause me to really look closer. That's "most".
However, it's easy to start that snowball rolling down the hill. Media has and always will be a money making machine, yet we are still conditioned to listen when something big comes up.
I always tell people to remember: Controversy sells.
There is big money to be had spreading malicious rumors not to mention all the other ways a smear campaign can benefit someone else.
Idk why I write so much.
I'm a newbie fan of bts. Every day 💜 by listening to you, ARMY, and bts make me realize how much brains are in and behind that formidable band K-pop and make love Bts and ARMY more 💜 💜💜💜💜💜💜 ❤
Put your own house in order first - so true! And, yes, I, too, am too old to put up with some of this....stuff😁. Thanks again for a well balanced, informative video. Always enjoy your take on things!🙏
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You can do both at the Sametime and it becomes problematic when your country is contributing to harm. If your country isn't then that's a different argument.
Thank you for doing this. So very true been seeing a lot negativity when it comes to idols. It's ugly.
Mind boggling for real!
i remember korean labels doing it with BTS they even talked about it in the book. and also i heard TXt got boycut from shows because of relations with BTS and also le serrafim that got way out of control.
but funny enough it didn´t make an effect on their success so far. they are trying really hard now using these tactics, but after Hybe got so much power and credit as a label it does not have the same effect as it used to, so they are trying so hard.
the only agency i never hear anything about is SM and jyp. YG had some scandals recently but the other two has nothing. because Hybe dont do the same dirty tricks they use. jyp for instance is the only label who is not on weverse that alone is a red flag to me. they would rather take down the competition that is Hybe instead of sharing a platform.
Excellent coverage thank you for a sane sensible coverage .
This is such a thoughtful and informative video. Thanks again for your hard work and effort to educate us. ❤ It's just a shame that some in the comments still don't get it. 😢
Thank you for doing this. It is good to help new fans navigate all the info and videos put out esp the ones w certain narrow narratives.
Im.almost 50 but when my country is using MY money to fund wars or meddling with other nations then yes it is in my backyard. I dont care what kpop groups or famous people do or dont do. Im too old for that. But yes in america we do need to concentrate on issues here but when billions are given to other nations yet we dont even have universal healthcare and our schools are crumbling in some cities the yes both are related.
I'm very very old and don't appreciate a lot of today's music. Much to my surprise I slid down the rabbit hole and became a member of the BTS army. I only log on to X to look at the army posts and I have moderated my timeline well and don't catch most of the nonsense that goes on. However, this garbage has leaked through my defenses recently and I've been highly disturbed and somewhat puzzled by it all. Thank you for clarifying some of the issues. Absolutely love your videos.
I would like to thank you for doing this video. I've been following for a while and really enjoying the topics in which you speak on. I get educated every time. So, thank you so much. I learn something every time I watch. I like the fact that you do so much research & fact finding to show the truth of things. Keep up the good work!😉👍🏾💜💜
Wow....looks like mostly HYBE artists, could be wrong but looks mostly like HYBE artists they're going after. I hope in cases like this, the K Pop industry comes together, because all of this would benefit the western industry to have the K Pop industry go away or fandoms fighting each other. With K Pop fighting each other, the western industry doesn't have to, they can sit back and watch the "fighting" and set their sights to the top, something more meaningful. It's crazy how bad the tactics have gotten, never mind the hard work, long hours the artists put, let's just be like little kids, tell lies and hope everybody blindly follows. My opinion, the K Pop industry puts way too much weight on "words", the minute anything negative comes out on an artist, the artists come under fire from the company "fans", media and then it turns out sometimes to be completely false and the artists has lost their job (way of living), their dream, but no, lets keep going people, lets ruin more lives. FANDOMS, wise up, don't fall for everything, don't join every fight without KNOWING the facts. It's so bizarre to me how much of the past is brought up, front and center in the K Pop industry, like nobody else has a past of mistakes, like they've never made a wrong decision? As corrupt as the industry is as a whole and yet they go after the artists, really? Hate? Wow....if a person really HATES someone, they really don't have ANY love for themselves and put all their time and effort into destroying someone else's happiness, only because they don't love or respect themselves. The crazy thing is, the fan(s) helping to destroy other artists, if a group of people came at them the way they go after artists, they wouldn't last a week with so much pressure being put on them, having to defend themselves ALL the time. AGREE, accountability!!! WELL SAID!!!
The last one goes against all Big3 and HYBE artists trying to sabotage streams/listens.
They just never called it of and some people wonder if they still should keep doing it or what.
Lack of information keeps these trends going.
As sad it may sound.. Yes there are people who are happy because others are suffering. Selfish people are rampant in the Kpop industry. Or they are threatened because HYBE is getting bigger than the other agency.
Well said, especially the part about helping your own community.
Thank you for doing this. ARMY needs to be aware they are being prayed upon by some.
Even netizens boycotting for the "right" reasons are in the wrong and cheapening their own cause. Making a fuss about an idol drinking Starbucks, forcing your own beliefs and expectations of behavior on someone else, creating controversy and comment wars. It's not bringing awareness to whatever cause netizens are trying to advocate. It's cheapening the cause and the entire conversation becomes about the idol and not about the cause itself. Everyone's takeaway isn't that Starbucks is bad or which side is right, but rather than so-and-so idol did something to make fans angry. Cancel culture is getting ridiculous. Idols can't sneeze without an outcry that their sneeze offended a fan because they sneezed into their right elbow, which is sacred to the fan's culture and the idol should have sneezed into their left elbow, and known about this and been sensitive to other people's culture despite not being from that culture that accounts for .0000000001% of the world's population. Like, c'mon.
once again a great analysis. thankyou
Ik denk altijd: als ik niets positief te zeggen dan zwijg ik liever!!🥰❤️💜
Gosh I wish more people went by this rule - so sick of the negativity
👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾 A wonderful video all around. Thank you for doing it.
I‘ve been waiting for a video like this 💜
Thank you for this video. People are allowed to have opinions that we may not agree with and no amount of bullying is going to change that. I don't agree with many people I work with on serious issues, but I cannot demand that they be fired because of their beliefs. There are laws that prevent that. And no, morality does not get rid of legality. I can totally disagree with someone, but understand that they are entitled to their opinion just as I am mine. I focus on what I can realistically do to be effective. I would never advocate something that I would consider unfair if the situation was reversed. BTS will be just fine as they have fans who will always support them. I am one of them. Maybe the ones who are disappointed or have issues with what BTS are doing should find other artists to enjoy. When I am not interested in something, I give it no attention or energy. Trying to bully others never works because people do not like bullies. It always backfires badly.
I guess I am just too old (72) to understand fans who find it necessary to pull down someone to make their bias look better. I can only say they are sick .
Thankyou for such a balanced channel , sometimes it’s necessary to call out these people it’s not a negative post it’s something that needs to be said .
I just think you were not aware/interested when it happened decades etc. ago.
MJ was campaigned against. So where the Beatles.
I just think in Idol music it is more compressed/intense and people talk about it more.
But I do wonder now about the so-called "One-Hit-Wonders".
@@ruthfischer7615 OH believe me I am well aware people have tendencies to “ cut the tall poppy” in the past , I was there for the Beatles , Michael Jackson and many more but in the past there wasn’t the internet which has made it so much worse , the personal attacks, lies ,innuendos , AI , oh one of my pet hates “I heard “, or three people said so it must be true , don’t think for yourself or research !
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Every word you say is so true and many fans to idols don't regonise that the are faling for a trap and others start to think for them.
So what we can do is to give our full support to our BTS and to the solo albums. 💜 stream their songs, vote in awards shows if they are there as a group BTS or Solo nominations because they are still BTS versus other artist.
Thank you. Everything is so clear...
THANK YOU for making & posting this video.. It was quite informative & made from a positive aspect. I had no idea about some of the things brought up in this posting. So THANKS again!
I believe we should be "wise as serpents and harmless as doves." We ALL would be better off if we did. 💜
This has really gotten out of hand. I am an army to support BTS and their music in any kind of way I can.
MY OPINION: Politics and religion should be left out of music.
EXECUSE ME..But WHY Do You State It Would BENEFIT Western Artist's If K-Pop Went Away ?? IDK WHAT COUNTRY You Are From, BUT I WILL MAKE IT " CLEAR" TO YOU THAT I'am From The U.S. & I Find It A LIE That Our Artist's Do Not Appreciate K-Pop..& Consider Them As " COMPETITION" OR TAKING AWAY FROM THEIR TALENT...BTS, Among Other's Have Been Loved & Admired By The Majority of My Country..If They Weren't, I'm SURE ANY K-POP GROUP WOULD COME HERE TO PROMOTE THEIR TALENTS..You See, WE DO NOT FORM OUR OPINION'S FROM WHAT " OTHER'S TELL US", WE ARE NOT OUT TO " DESTROY" OUR ARTIST'S, THIS IS NOT WHAT " CONSUMES" US, As ( Judging From This Presentatiom), S. KOREAN'S DO...Has " Anyone" Noticed The Amount Of Suicides OF YOUR Artist's & Actor's Have Committed? I WONDER WHY?? IMO, IT'S FROM THE HARSH CRITICISM, GOSSIP, LIES, ALLEGED FALSE SCANDALS, ACCUSATIONS, THAT THE S. KOREAN'S BRING TO THEIR " OWN"..I USUALLY DO NOT COMMENT MUCH, I HAVE BEEN ATTEMPTING TO EDUCATE MYSELF ON KOREAN " CULTURE" & JUDGING FROM WHAT I READ & SEE, THAT IS CHANGING & NOT IN A " POSITIVE" WAY!! THE CONSTANT BASHING OF MY COUNTRY IS ONE THING I ABSOLUTELY WILL COMMENT ON..ALSO, FYI MY COUNTRY HAS IMMENSELY TALENTED ARTIST'S, That Have Actually Been or Have Featured K-Pop..If You Don't KNOW...ASK JK!!I Happen To Be A Huge Dan OF BTS, & UNLIKE THE PEOPLE IN KOREA I WOULD NEVER SAY ONE BAD WORD ABOUT THEM..EVER!! HOW DOES THIS RATE I YOUR COUNTRY?? QUITE THE OPPOSITE IF YOU ARE S. KOREAN...SO SAD!!!
I AGREE!!! And I say it every time it’s brought up and of course some snarky comment comes after about me “not caring”. Yeah, ok, you don’t know me… I care a lot about a lot of things but music is my refuge. I need time away from the shit of the world and fighting the good fight and music is where I go to relax and be happy. Sometimes I feel it’s all I have left in my life that does make me happy!
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Congratulation! you have fallen for your own countries propaganda.
Leave all the "..." out because that sounds sarcastic and does not throw a good light on you or the country you are from.
And stop screaming.
Seriously.
Watch bby gang mag "you are wrong about K-pop" and the following if you really want to educate yourself.
@neperez1845 Why are you Shouting it's off putting and rather rude. In fact the USA Music Industry is extremely corrupt I know I've worked within thank you. And yes they don't want Kpop any other non English groups getting into their charts unless they can make money out of them. eg under the table payments to USA Radio Stations. The USA music industry doesn't want groups/artist from other countries doing well with the USA unless they agree to sign with an American Entertainment company so they can rake a profit off them. It's all about these US Dollars.
It's the nature of the industry it doesn't mean American artists might not want to work with artists from other place's but their companies will only allow it if they see it as advancing the US artist and therefore the US music companies.
@@eileencritchley4630 If YOU'RE REFERRING TO MY CAPITOLIZARION, YOU CAN SCROLL ON..I DO IT BECAUSE, I CAN...SO According To You Miss " I'VE WORKED WITHIN THE BUSINESS"...THEN, YOU MUST KNOW THAT THE "ENTERTAINMENT BUSINESS" IN EVERY COUNTRY IS ABOUT " MONEY"..NOT JUST IN THE WESTERN STATES..I'AM NOT STATING MY OPINION TO CREATE PROBLEMS WITH ANYONE, IT IS " MY OPINION" & IF YOU AREN'T " TIRED" OF U.S. BEING THE SOUNDING BOARD FOR " EVERYTHING"!! IF KOREAN'S HAVE NO PROBLEM DEGRADING THE PEOPLE OF MY COUNTRY, I WILL CHALLENGE THEM ON IT!!! I'AM " PROUD" OF MY COUNTRY, IF YOU'RE NOT...GREAT!! THAT'S YOUR CHOICE...
I agree. Actually i mention to Sam Richardson, PhD of Penn State Uni, cause he's classes are so insteresting about the communities and other items. ThankU, i really like it
seungri's example wasn't a good one, the guy is a convicted rapist and telling a case about him being a victim of something else is misleading
Great video. Great research and unfortunately I have seen and read a lot of this crap going on. BTS forever. How can anyone be negative abt Jk and JHope? Sad💜💜💜💜💜💜💜
From my understanding this is (the boycotts especially to BTS & the members) like the “Break the Wings project” for BTS in the past but 2.0 version. (Heard this from an OG ARMY & I agree)
Thanks for making this video. Social media show come with a use with caution label for the very reasons you cited in the video. Just to add to some of your advice, I recommend that when you research a topic then use credible sources. Ensure you know the value of the information the site is providing. Also, use critical thinking skills when reviewing information and ask questions. Enjoy what you like.
Other fandoms paid or not can’t hurt JHope or any BTS members. Army know better, we know negativity. They should just build their own fandoms and work harder. I know BTS has been hit hard for ten-years. It doesn’t bother me because we know it’s all lies. Digital bullying will be dealt with by Big Hit.
Their boycotting will never hurt BTS, they’ve tried hard for a decade!
Except I have seen it spread in the fandom.
I'm not sure who is jumping on the train but some people are naive enough to do that.
I think they even attacked a company (Mnet?) and were angry that they were banned.
I found the last one suspicious because it began the hour TWS debuted.
@@ruthfischer7615 A lot of aren't fans but pretending in order to cause issues they are ' Muck rakers' as we Brits say. Shite stirers. However it works and those who are young, get caught up into their muck spreading. We need to try to try and weed these anti's/muck rakers out and help the new and younger members to understand they are being 'used' and being told a bucket of lies'. It's hard I know.
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That is hard.
I tried on a tumblr account - and I got absolut refusal to even look - because I'm just a "Zionist" (they used different words but at the end of the day that is what they mean that or I'm the naive hater)
Because they hate the "Zionist" Scooter Braun and not J-Hope as they say.
That Hoseok would be the only hurt not Braun or the people in Gaza are not helped at all by it - goes straigt over their head.
Too easily lead unfortunately.
At least that person was pretty much the only one I still see posting.
It seems like you can't trust in anything, It just scares me to death 🤦♀️
Loved, brilliant! I am glad I was taught in school about propaganda and try to be on the look out for it and your video has educated me on even more tactics that are being used today. Thank you
This doesn’t just happen in K-pop. My favourite celebrity, who is a Chinese, was a victim of such dirty smear campaigns as well.
These type people would have never survived the 70's, 80's or 90's as it was as tossed salad of everything complained about today with anyone famous. I guess we knew how to smell BS and turn our heads to the incoming with much tougher skin. I don't have time for it.
I don't think that is quiet true.
I remember e.g. the campaigns against MJ.
I remember what I was told about the Beatles and have seen the headlines.
Propaganda always existed and helped form how we see history.
One of the oldest can be found in a "book of the dead" where an ancient pharao claimed to have won a battle. Except it turned out he actually lost it.
But because it was written in his grave...
@scher7615 but were you gullible to believe it all, spread it and make a fuss not knowing reality just by hear say? my point no internet then. Debate all you want, my self, my friends, my family and newspapers and magazines were our resources. Really don’t care about your retort. This is MY experience NOT YOURS. LoL
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What arguement is "LoL"?
And e.g. the Ems Dispatch was believed.
In fact a lot of stories about the first WWI to get people to become soldiers was not true either.
We see more of that now,
But - as pointed out - throwing of fliers or the story of the book "Doctor Zhivago" are part of the propanganda.
The medium and how much from around the world we have seen has changed but the subject in itself... I'm not so sure.
Benny Blanco is one of the nicest people in the music industry. My thought when I read posts like this is how do they even know if what is being posted on social media is true? It's ridiculous.
Also, BTS, or any other artist for that matter, do not discuss a person's political stance before working with them.
Thank you for this video. This was very useful.
Very informative video, thank you. The problem with AI is when it’s viewed by non native speaking persons. There are still problems with pronouns being wrong, speech lagging that native speakers pick up on but maybe someone not fluent would not recognize.
thank you for this
It boils down to your own personal values. Why can"t everybody be HAPPY when someone becomes successful? Because other people are jealous/envious of others who are better than them or better than their idols. Thank you for your insightful episode. The time you put into your research and to explain each one is remarkable. Kudos... more power....
What you are describing is the dark side of social media. This manipulating of information to cause havoc in business , entertainment personal etc.
If someone doesn’t want the product for whatever reason, don’t buy it. Why tell untruths or exaggerations just to cause trouble. I’m sure this is just an every day event these days because society has become so mean spirited lately . This attitude has me very concerned. My philosophy is to do my very best to do no harm by my actions or words.
Thank you for your thoughts on this issue.
Have you ever heard about the "Ems Dispatch"?
That was 1870.
It's not new unfortunately just wider spread/more visible.
That's not nice..that's evil😮
💜🇧🇷💜thanks for the video. This is really a mind opening video.
I read about BTS on Reddit and the ones I Subcribed to. I like all your videos.
It's Conditioning.
I really think people need to stop trying to use BTS and others BTS is not involved in their political BS nor should they be to me it is absurd for people to try to tell others to change their lives just because they think they should BTS and other kpop groups don't want or need to be pulled into their polictics or their wars if they were they would offend other fans so it's not fair to ask them to support anyone on this issue they are good people and don't want or need to be involved in it I wish people would just leave them alone and let them breathe and serve their country in peace and do what they love most sry for the long rant but these people are getting out of control and I really hope the companies that are targeted sur these people 😊
Very informative and well thought out video essay. Thank you!
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Thanks!
Thanks!
Thank you! If there is any other topic you want me to cover, let me know.
I'm a baby Army learning as much as I can about BTS, I was drone to BTS because of Jimin, even though I am a baby Army I am a older individual, I love your reaction Channel on UA-cam I mostly watch to learn everything I can about BTS I'm not being critical I'm just trying to understand I have watched you talk about all the members which such respect an admiration and it could be I'm just going on my feeling, seems to me that you praise all the other members but not jimin I remember I can't remember which episode when u said that he was the first Asian to hit number one in history on the billboard hot 100 charts, them in the next breath you said he was the most disrespectful person in the industry if you don't mind could you please clarify that why is he the most disrespected person in the industry, I would like to see u give him some of the praise that you give the other numbers with all respect.
I really appreciate this essay except for one part. Are you saying that it is not okay to call people out when they do, or continue to do, something wrong? People in power, such as CEOs, especially need to receive backlash when they make bad decisions. Lee Soo-man, Jay Park and Scooter Braun have all done many of the things they have been accused of. It is important to call it out, especially when there is a pattern of behavior that could be harmful to other people like those younger or more vulnerable than you. There needs to be a balance.
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These people are ridiculous. How many times do they have to be told that Korean economy benefits so much from BTS and all the guys solos. I'm glad you are explaining this. Thanks for educating the public.
all singers get pitchy from time to time. Many things can cause it, a bad throat, problems with the in ears monitor, a problem with the mic, nerves, whatever. out of all Jimin's performances, I heard him get pitchy 3 times. 2 were in-ears trouble, and one was his sore throat.
seems like only Koreans care about if a idol is dating as they get older. The whole dating thing in Korean is right out of the Victorian era. The Jenny/V gossip started up again but they took it too far and now Hybe has filed charges and we shall see.
I would like Scooter out of the buisness personally for what he pulled on Taylor swift, but I'm not blaming or punishing others because of him. That's ridiculous.
Army's let's support hybe no matter what happend to them.
They did that to MYG during BLM...just because, there was jim Jones in 'what do you think?' . The song was supposed to stir up some issues. At the height of the blm movement, some anti s uses that track as an excuse to drag Yoongi and accuse him of racism. Ppl didn't want to hear an explanation and just dragged him. And then turns out the song wasn't racist. No one apologized for that mess.
Exactly and some black ARMY were trying to explain how it was not racist and no one listened. A lot of rappers do that. But the antis just wanted to drag him and didn't even care about blm in the first place. In fact, a lot of army were hating on black army until it came out that BTS donated and showed support.
I remember that... But there were black armys that genuinely didn't like that he used jim Jones voice in a song
@@rodie3602 not every black person is knowledgeable abt topic k I as a Indian don't know everything abt my culture either, multiple Black artist has used the sample, if he was anti black ,shouldn't they hold accountable too but they understand arts when it comes to them
@@rodie3602 he didn't even add the sample,he was a main writer and producer of all song except 2 song of that album including this one and how can you put him on pedestal bcz you feel uncomfortable when that man is a artist and your black artist are using the sample too without backlash,
@@blossom6693 I don't really understand your point, I was just giving a coment to OP about how that jim jones incident included genuine, hurted, armys, not only "antis". I saw them. I didn't want to give an opinion about those armys. I Just wanted to clarify some info
Another insightful and rational dose of reality. Thank you.
Thank you
Leave Jungkook alone bad people
For the first time I see someone talking about kpop with empirical evidence and from a point of view not blinded by fanaticism. Every day I see kpop news or crazy posts of fandoms acting like cults and despising others for not having the same tastes or mentality as you.
In the last few days you see post mentioned Hybe and his groups for any nonsense, what if Yujin dresses like this or what if the new group ill't be the new New Jeans. This is the point we have reached that you have to go against the competition in such an atrocious way, the scandals that some Hybe idol is always going on about these days is nonsense.
Thanks for your video, it contains a lot of valuable information that no one pays attention to as it should be.
What the US did to Iraq is similar to the situation now. Therefore, we have no right to take side or act all righteous. People need to stop dragging music into politics.
Hello I'm new to Army
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Amen 🙏 💜
Yes just enjoy the music! Why complicate it?
Because you are not a child anymore.
if you are not a child then actually act like an adult and boycott actual companies tha are in the BDS movement and not hybe because some army or most likely multi with a white sevior complexe that loves to be the main charcter and decided to smare bts 's brand aka poc who have been suffereing in the industry and make them the center of critics and mes them seen as zionists... that's is disgusting.@@ruthfischer7615
Can't there be anything done on the amount of ads in your videos? There's one every few minutes. It's seriously too much!
Also, promoting Jordan Peterson, just NO! I'm sure you could've found another quote that explains the same sentiment.
You had me until you quoted Peterson. LOL.
Have a heart is kpop more important to you then human lives?
I am surprised and disappointed that JHope was mentioned as an example when it was Jungkook who experienced the brunt of dirtymarketing tricks because of working with Scooter, is back-up dancer, JT and Usher who were called Zionist and as if that was bad. So many, including ARMY called to boycott his album and songs. ARMY did not even include his songs in their playlists. The dirty trick of payola accusations should have been discussed too.
Disappointed? Really? Why aren't you disappointed that Hobi is currently the target of boycott campaigns? All of the smears you mention are aimed at Hobi and Hope On The Street now. Can you not support more than one artist?
@@bt6248 She is a typical solo stan. She doesn't care about J-Hope. Also that kind of toxic behavior. In addition, JK was also in the video.
as long as hybe continues to associate with scooter, bts’ image will suffer. on top of his already awful reputation as an exploitive and conniving business man, he has a dying influence over the industry as most of his A-list clients have broken free from their contracts. him also declaring his violent Zionist beliefs on his public platform will of course be met with major backlash and disgust. he follows these instagram stories with other ones celebrating hybe and bts’ success, creating a link between those beliefs and bts’ image. as if they endorse his behaviour. he has gone as far as to call himself the mastermind behind seven’s success, as if bts haven’t worked for years to build their own legacy without a single crumb of his input. an army can knows he had ZERO parts in their success but how about a random local who happens to stumble across the article? i’ve already noticed how much disrespect jungkook has received from western stans, especially taylor fans, due to the mere association of scooter with his image. it has only hurt him and will continue to hurt bts if hybe doesn’t drop him. he is dead weight and ruins everything he touches.
You guys are being manipulated by Taylor Swift, who acted like a victim, but she is a Karen. Her father was one of the owners who sold her music to Scooter and made over $16 mil. Do you think she didn't know about it and acted like a victim on her post?
Personally, I can't stand that man.
But I kinda agree about bts is gonna be attack as long as he's related to hybe, but also those people are just looking for a reason to hate. So, even if he got fired, they're gonna find another reason to complain about
This is such an amazing video, and of course the points provided apply to much more than K-pop. It's such a shame that you have failed to learn from this info so far. I feel sorry for you. 😢
If HYBE and BTS are going to be attacked because of him it won’t be by Army and that’s the line that is being drawn. If you’re trying to control them through boycotts and joining in on attack you can’t call yourself Army. Army supports BTS and their music. If you’re engaging in the negativity against them you’re an anti. I also don’t trust Scooter but it’s such an arrogant move to think you know better and try to control how a whole company runs from your couch.
Nah. BTS' image is fine. BTS' image is suffering in your head, not in anyone else's, certainly not in America considering 90% of the bigwigs in Hollywood are Jewish. It is YOU who is making BTS' image suffer, not Braun.
With all due respect, 9:10 is reality, people have ears and can fact check it themselves
When someone starts their comment "With all due respect," you know they're going to say something disrespectful.
@@bt6248 (not) hitting the right notes and holding them is an objective reality, let alone a proper technique. A lot of people don't hear it and say others are lying or criticizing singers for no reason, which is sad and can be also harmful for the singer, because not admitting mistakes doesn't let you grow.
With all due respect is literally me seconding the overall topic and arguments presented
Ironic that after a twenty-three minute video about smear tactics, this is what you felt compelled to say.
@@bt6248 No wonder. It's what I'm interested in and a bit knowledgeable in
How? By giving 46k qrt wishing him r4pe, calling him women over 1 single encore performance where his in ears are not even working, people even can't hear anything bcz of loud cheer ,I don't think any other idol has to go through this kind of hate train except jimin , he was singing it right way but backtrack and his voice was in two different places bcz he can't hear anything,
It's only BTS where kpop fandom will collectively come together to hate on most brutal way and 24 hr later act like it never happened and use the same drag again and again,
They filled the chart with sa joke on him and made official acc delete it and lie that hybe is editing his performance as if hybe is not a fucking outsider in industry and BTS were thrown out of nominations multiple times without explanation
First of all, Armys were boycotting hybe, not the artists. Second, it was requested by the Palestinian armys themselves. Third, i myself agree that religion and politics should be kept out, but this isn't a political issue, it's a humanitarian issue, innocent ppl are d!eing. Those brands are investing & supporting Isr@el. Openly supporting such a country is so immoral, i don't understand how you all see nothing wrong with that. Korea itself has a history of colonization, there are many koreans who are supporting Palestine. Even bts has talked about Palestine before, they'll never support you all. If you don't want to support those Palestinian armys, it's okay, but don't call them fake armys for standing up for their ppl. Just ignore if you can't help, that's the least you can do.
Tbh, I think activist armys have lost the plot on this issue long time ago. Seriously. It's not about not speaking up or not doing something, it's about focusing your efforts on things that matter. Believe me, sending a protest truck to Hybe does absolutely NOTHING to change things in Gaza. Instead, people should be organizing to protest governments supporting Israel, and AIPAC in the US. Those are the people who actually have a say in this whole mess. The protest trucks and idols cups of coffee are performative activism, I'm sorry.
@@RiotGrrrl10 And what made you think ppl aren't protesting?? 2 things can coexist!! Idols are influencers, brands are paying them & many teen fans follow them blindly, they try to copy everything they do & eat. Them using those products mean more addition in those brands & they're investing in Israel. Boycott is creating an impact, even if it's small. Plus, some idols who didn't know about the bds movement got to know about it bcoz we sent them emails informing them & they took action immediately. So don't say it's not doing anything. Their goal is to aware more ppl as possible & do things that can create impact not only directly, but indirectly as well. Plus, nobody's forcing you to participate, but ppl shouldn't harass those Palestinian armys & acs who're asking for it or comment on their efforts unnecessarily. We have the privilege to choose what we want to, it's their necessity rn.
@@YoursTAngel I agree with you when it comes to not harassing Palestinian armys. That's uncalled for. But if the whole effort is about awareness, I've seen next to nothing done about people directly responsible for the genocide and everything about protest trucks. Seriously, priorities! Two things can be done at the same time, true, but efforts and energy are not endless and should be focused way more on what can actually make more of a difference.
@@RiotGrrrl10 When did BTS openly talked about Palestine? I've never seen or heard direct political comments from them. They never had any statement on any geopolitical issues, even the Russo-Ukraine war or the frequent tensions between Japan and S Korea regarding their history. I remember one time RM showed fanarts from Palestine and Israel (quite a while ago) and he was accused in the comments for being pro-Israel. People just jumped into conclusions and assigning political roles to the idols just from one innocent action. So unless there're official statements/comments from BTS, you can't just assume what they think. Just saying. It's better to put your efforts and time to agencies that matter like your politicians or donor organisations instead wasting time boycotting idols like BTS' members who have no say in the conflicts in the world.
@@mikaelaw9983 I agree 100% with you, and it's true that BTS have never spoke about the issue and it's not their obligation to do so.
Good points but not happy that you keep using j-hope’s photos on every slide? This is not just about him.
You are the consumer you can do what you want it's your money. Hybe is to be held account for their business dealings it's that simple. I'm not giving them my money we can support them in other ways
That narrative perfectly fit to what was discussed in this video. "The people who don't agree with me, don't do or take sides are equally as guilty". I don't give a sh*t about Scooter Braun or his affiliations but y'all talking like HYBE made an illegal trade or something. Make them accountable?? LMAO For what?
What you just did is strategy #2 in the video.
when will you be?
For lesserafim they are unoriginal so who care, make them something original next time instead of being a bad copycat
Wow. I guess you dont know that lesserafim planned all their music before they debute. They are original.
You need to grow up
Your comment is a perfect example of one of the tactics discussed here.
@@Mori-Chan613hahaha indeed, heavens what to do with black hearted people
OP must be watching a different video