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K-OG reacts to JISOO - ‘꽃(FLOWER)’ M/V reaction
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- Опубліковано 30 бер 2023
- Wow... Country... backwardly Trot meets the Ultra high fashion and sophistication. This was such CLASH of titans?
LOL... She was actually doing butterfly. Such a daring concept. Well done.
Thanks for the honest opinion. For old school people might really find it weird but i think the song caters to the younger generation its like a trot but modernized feel to it .. i think yg is very brave to put a spin to it . And still the song is very Jisoo .. she’s a more traditional than you think but she’s a global star and needs to put out songs that cater to this generation . She has a choice to put out a modern / typical pop songs but chose this. And i think the reason that some people dont like this is that they’re are not used to this sound and expect the usual yg sound . But i like it very much
Like I said on another comment, gotta respect the guts and experimental effort. Liking something is so personal so let the public judge the result.
I will neither confirm nor deny your statement. Lol 😅 being honest is a difficult thing but a reaction should be just that. A real reaction to what is presented. Ultimately, the judgement is solely rest of the public. Thank you for your no-nonsense comment. 😘
전 대학에서 피아노를 전공한 전공자입니다. 당연 필수 과목으로 작곡도 공부했구요.!!
지수의 꽃은 한국의 트로트나 컨츄리 또는 민속 음악적 리듬 구성이 전혀 없습니다. 코드진행이 180° 다릅니다. 그리고 시간될때 우리 한국의 다양한 트로트 곡들을 들어보면 차이점을 찾고 이해가 될 겁니다.
단 귀👂🏻가 정상적이란 조건하에.!!🦋💙
Thanks for your honest reactions. I can truly tell that you are a fan of music. I love music and I appreciate your views.
Thank you. I might not have depth but I really do enjoy many types of music. It was always a place to run for me. Hope you stick around and share some interesting views on music. Have a wonderful weekend.
I watched it 10 times before I had to watch the lyrics version because she is so gorgeous I went brain dead every time and could not even hear the singing or read the translation.
Lol... I can totally sympathize. If I was younger and not filming myself, which my wife of more than 25 years might watch, I would have reacted very differently. I like my life. All I can say is what a beautiful lady indeed.
Thanks for your reaction, it was really interesting your point of view.
Glad you enjoyed it!
👐🏻♥️ Jisoo Flower 👐🏻🌸
노래 완전 좋고 가사 내용이 너무 슬프다.💜💕
Jisoo🦋💙
당신의 지수에 대한 관심과 악평 존중합니다.🖤
지수 꽃이 피었습니다.
지수는 인터뷰에서 "내 이야기를 담은 첫 솔로 곡이다“ 라고 했어요.
가사에서 처음에 'abc 도레미만큼 착했던 나‘ 라는 문장을 통해 어릴적 순수하고 순진했던 자신의 모습을 보여주고, "그 눈빛이 싹 변했지 어쩌면 이 또한 나니까“ 라는 문장을 통해 자신이 변화하는 모습을 이야기 합니다.
지수가 자신의 과거를 바라보면서도 나아가는 모습이라고 생각합니다. 지수는 과거의 아픔과 상처를 극복하며 새로운 자신을 만들어 내는 동시에, 미래를 향해 성장하고 나아가는 모습을 보여주고 있기 때문이죠.🦋
지수가 미래에서 자신의 과거를 돌아보며 그리움과 아픔을 느끼는 모습이 보여지는데, 그래서 이 곡이 한국적이면서 슬픔이 전해집니다.♥︎🤍
지수가 럭셔리 명품브랜드 Cartier, Dior 의 글로벌 엠버서더이지만 협찬, 콜라보는 전혀 없었으며 (YG 수장인 현석이 그 동안 저축해 놓은 돈을 퍼 부었다)、미국 올 로케이션 LA 유니버셜스튜디오 진행에 블랙핑크 앨범 중 역대 최대 제작비와 정성이 듬뿍 담긴 지수의 솔로 뮤비와 앨범입니다.🦋
지수는 디올 뷰티 코스메틱 글로벌 엠버서더입니다. 첫 장면의 지수 손안에 디올 컴팩트는 협찬입니다☁︎
⚪️⬜️JISOO🤍⬜️
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감 사합니다만 악평은 아닌듯 합니다.블랙핑크 데뷔부터 유일하게 좋아했던 팀이고 지수도 그 심플하고 착한 모든 맴버들을 감싸는 중요한 사람이라 생각합니다. 저는 그저 음악을 좋아하는 보통 사람으로서 제 첫 느낌을 솔직히 표현할 뿐. 이번 솔로의 특이한 구성에 약간의 걱정을 표현하였고 다행히 기우였고 많은 사랑을 받아 다행입니다. 악평이라 평가 받기는 좀 아닌듯..
I liked this song this is new to me 😊
I believe this is new to everyone. ^^ A lot of unexplored sounds and sights.
Yeah thank you for giving the honest opinion, i love when you say Korean music and elegant music a clash of it if im not wrong, sorry 😇
Thank you. No Sorrys here. Yes, mixing of trot and modern sophistication in sound. But I also meant in dance and fashion/visual too. She does cool dance and another moment flaping her wings like a butterfly. Some thing in fashion too. Very high class to borderline tacky. Some items would have been just tacky if Jisoo didn't pull it off. Just what I felt. Mixing two extreme is very difficult so I expect the response of people to be polarizing also.
one dancer has that blue ish green hair, matches the other items like the curtains and the light on the building and Jisoo's dress later on. A strange bicycle can be seen. odd and satisfying film
I am so glad it is doing well. Visually it was a slam dunk but I worried that the music might be too eccentric for some. Trot is not a genre that westerners get exposed to. Well, now I know my worries are unfounded. Blackpink can't seem to fail. I gotta hear other songs now. ^^
Interesting take you have. I'm glad this song is doing great globally after a month. Yep, this song is not for everyone (listeners and artists) and if other idol did it, it wouldn't hit (very true) that's why this song fits with jisoo. Coming from a jisoo fan perspective, she likes repetitive rhythm and vocal inflections. Her scenes with different styles and colors represents the different types of flowers-its meaning and it forms a story that centers the lyrics of the song.
So, I get what you mean by clash of music and visual because having a first watch is not enough. Jisoo's artistry tends to interpret things not in a literal sense, so it makes sense when you interpret it as a daring concept
This isn't an argumentative comment but an informative one, to add context to the song and music video. After all, we all have our own personal likes. Thanks for reacting to it!
Thank you for such a thoughtful comment. I believe, there are some misunderstandings though. I was trying to convey the clash of different styles. Not clash between the music and the visuals. There are many different types of Korean Trot. The sound they were using was similar to a specific genre that is especially funcky? or a bit tacky. Usually enjoyed by older ladies in busses and stuff from past. I wish I could show you, Lol. This sound was mixed with very sophisticated modern sound. I thought I saw a similar trend in her fashion and the dance sequence too. Mix of very sophisticated and something tacky. Now don't get me wrong. Tacky does not mean bad. It would be like mixing certain 70's music and fashion with modern sound and high-end fashion. I actually thought it was very interesting because my example of using 70's stuff and modern is between two different western cultural themes. In this case it was between western/modern and older and somewhat obscure Korean sound/fashion/colors. I was not sure how this unique approach will be received by the world, because it was a bit jarring for me too. Especially since I have a first hand knowledge of these old Korean trot sound and look. However, in hindsight, there is a reason why I am just a reactor and YG is YG. After a while, it sounded more natural and started to enjoy the song very much. Very memorable style and dance in these days of cookie-cutter songs. Please feel free to comment on how you feel. I love discussing different viewpoints and how we receive and understand music. That is the whole point of this channel. ^^ BTW, now I can understand many people's confusion because you guys had no reference to these very specific type of trot music/and fashion from the past. I should have been more descriptive in explaining what I felt. Anyway, thank you again for your thoughtful and very polite comment. I really appreciate it.
@@komerican-og wow, I understand your view better with your reply! This is the first time I heard the term, "trot" so I did a few research regarding the term before commenting just to have an understanding to it (that's a new term for my vocabulary now 😆). I guess I failed to take account the specific culture, since my research was a generalization of japanese and korean trot.
I definitely get that it was jarring, the fan community doesn't even know what type of music she would release cause the teasers she gave has this elegant vibe accompanied it with a korean instrument. I think it was geomungo(?) They also used this instrument on their pink venom music (hope you will react to it too. would like to hear your thoughts about using tradtional instrument in this modernizing industry as a korean-american) and she was the one who played it in the music video. so, we thought it would sound like a modern-folk dance song.
If you notice, the quality/texture of the video it gave off the vibe of the past. It's not the camera that we use today with the super clear hd and all that, but it has a touch of grainy texture which adds a layer of obscurity to it like we can clearly see it, but it still blurry in a sense that it created this imaginary boundary between the audience and what the artist wants us to see.
Since you mentioned the 70's it does reflect of that time but I think it's more on 60's going to the 70's 🤔like the inspiration of the video theme is that of Audrey Hepburn's Breakfast at Tiffany (a classic and an icon. btw, there is also a picture of audrey's famous silhouette shot in the first clip) musicality and fashion period. In addition, the last clip, when she removed the flower necklace, is a reference to dior's perfume commercial with natalie portman. Given that she's an ambassador for the brand and the brand is one of the sponsors for the music video (albeit a rumor).
I'm a fan of jisoo as a solo artist and blackpink, so I definitely tend to... I guess "beautify" (I don't know if it's the right term) their work. So, I find it really interesting to watch reaction videos from someone who has a different perspective and connection to the artist. I tend to receive negative response from the reactors and their viewers even if I stated, "informative", they think it's an attack to them. Instead of having an engaging conversational topic and exchange of views, mostly I get, "you're a fan", "biased opinion", "flop" and etc. it's disappointing that some people forget that music is subjective and there's nothing wrong if you like or dislike it
@hosiebbchoni no problem. I welcome opinions. That's what makes it fun. BTW, the instrument you play with a stick is geomungo... kinda like a base guitar and one you play with your fingers is gayageum. Acoustic guitar of traditional music. The other one has really thick lines so you use a stick. Hope it helped.
I did mention about how the dresses that jisoo used is a resemblance to a flower.
each dress she wore has a flower signature. For the first part, it shows a budding of a flower, the sort of innocence of it, cocooned in the room and being in a relationship. the black dress was the growth of its stem like the first small stem from the ground, going out of our safe space/comfort zone being able to take the first step of letting go of someone or something. It is quite a scary and this fear of the unknown to proceed but we must do it. the green floral dress inside the building is the full bloom flower but sheltered like how we put flowers inside our homes. we do take care of it but it gets suffocated inside (torn necklace). Opposite to it, is the scenes outside, there's a feel of freedom and boldness like when flowers are just grown outside, they get more vitality, color (lilac, red, vibrant light blue, pink, glittering color) and lushness. Also, part of the lyrics too
overall, the music, lyrics and video makes me feel like it's a breakup song but its not a sad one. like your breaking up/letting go for your own good. There is strength and beauty in moving forward. It is quite hard but it will get better eventually. There was nothing left but a scent of flower as jisoo said 😊😊 we always leave a mark in someone's life be it a good or a bad moment.
@@komerican-og ohhhh interesting so it was a geomungo instrument they used. Thank you!
Btw, the teaser I was referring is actually the visual film #1 and #2 for flower. I got mixed it up, sorry. I think they used traditional instruments there so we thought it will be like a modern-folk dance music
"Everything everywhere all at once" was a foundational framework for the music video. Perhaps the song and music video would seem less nonsensical with that context in mind. People can have differing opinions on whether the song suits their individual tastes, but to consider the music video and music production as something shallow completely misses the point, both artistically and intellectually with respects to the product. Moreover, it reveals a lack of understanding and appreciation for Jisoo's diverse charms, the laudable intentions of blending modern with traditional, and her overall uplifting and yet sensible character.
The song can be polarizing for listeners. Visuals not so much. Hoa😳 like any new attempt at new style. Gotta respect the try and also respect the responses of people.👋
@@komerican-og Only educated responses need to be respected. Not all sounds are speech, just noise. And my opinion above was not directed at your opinion of trot music.
I am not a BLINK but trying to watch/listen to the song objectively but honestly not for me. There are some good parts but as a song as a whole it isn't for me. Thanks for being honest. There are a few songs from BP I do like but I personally agree with your statement that "she is pretty and if it wasn't her on the song, it would be silly (paraphrased)", I feel this with most BP music (not all).
Haha no...no...paraphrasing. I neither confirm no disagree with your comment. Lol. I am finding out it is pretty difficult to be honest and not pander the viewers. It is like a fruit of a devil. I do not post the reaction at all, if I find nothing good to say or hated the content. Not only counter productive but don't we have enough drama and hate in the world? Just don't wanna add to it. I actually like Blackpink a lot. I am not sure if songs are as good as when they started and perhaps Teddy is getting tired. For my taste. Well thanks for your input and see you around. This was such an experimental infusion of Trot and it was difficult to digest initially. However, it seems to be accepted very well by public, so great for Jisoo.
@@komerican-og Oh I understand. I am just honest. I do think they are talented their music is good for a certain mood. If people like their music that is totally fine, it isn't bad just not really for me for the most part. I also think that their company gives them many disadvantages unfortunately. The songs I personally like from them are mostly on their recent album. My three personal favorites on the album are Shut Down, Happiest Girl, and Hard to Love.
Controversial statement: I have a fairly strong
notion that the subtext of the video is that rather
than it being an ordinary love story, Jisoo is playing a sex worker, a 'flower girl.' In past centuries in China, Japan and Korea, the title 'sing-song girl' (Chinese:), or 'flower girl,' was a slang term for a courtesan. The yellow building which Jisoo stands outside of, looking in at a set of pearls, was painted that colour specifically for this MV shoot. It strongly suggests the 1996 Korean film 'Yellow House,' which is about a sex worker who struggles with her identity when she is forced to leave the Yellow House brothel of the title. Jisoo is playing the role of someone who is deeply conflicted by her profession, with all the waiting around in hotel rooms and lobbies, avoiding eye contact with maids and elevator operators, plus all the inevitable heartbreak and loneliness. At the same time she is still attracted to the money she makes and the sense of power it brings, as this may be her only alternative to poverty. The tearing off of the choker at the end is a signal of the character taking charge of her independence. She is no one's pet or possession.
PS: This is a description of a role
that actress Jisoo is playing. It is not actually a
description of our wonderful Jisoo, the brilliant and talented actor and singer from Blackpink.
May be controversial but well thought out and entirely possible. The issues of comfort women, the root of Trot (Started from Japanese occupation) etc. color scheme etc. would support that theory. There is simple happiness side of trot but there is deeply sentimental and sad style too. If I had this intention, I would personally not use that vocal instrumentation. The subject matter is too sensitive or tragic for inclusion of that kind of sound. However, who knows what is going on inside people's head. All we can do is observe, enjoy and discuss interesting and enlightening thoughts on the subject. As we are doing now. ^^ Thank you for a very interesting theory.
JIso is acting a story. She talks about her. Thats why the Album is named ME she is showing the diferents erassshe has lived as an Idol. She gets free, she was a flower she blimed but that yung flower do not exist anymore but she keeps her identity she keeps the scensse no matter fame, the luxury , she is her. Thi man is talking about traditional music TROT that old people use to lisent in Korea an is all about love .
Very unexpected.. yes.. Believe it or not, some of the fans are disappointed. I am not a fan just casual listener but even me. It's Jisoo's first solo debut and I don't understand how the company made this song for her.. It's quite far from Blackpink's style and for a mv that spent so much effort and money, this song was really not suitable for her .. In this song, I think we only see her beauty.. The company needs to accept the fact that they can't make good SOLO songs and change their producers.. 🤷🏻♀️
I liked other's solos. This one I am not quite sure but I give points to experimental effort. The clash was so intense.
@@komerican-og I didn't mean the other members' solo songs actually, I like some of them too 😉 But it's a fact that solo songs are weak compared to grup songs, that's my personal opinion. They need to work on this.
If you didn't like the song,then leave it there.....why wasting your time watching reactions and listening to it on repeat???
From your first words, this is exactly how I felt with the teasers, as she was going to show 100 outfits and that's about it. If they wanted a model to sing some incoherent words (the lyrics made no sense for the most part)... well, they got that. I feel the company (I don't want to think the idol too, but who knows) disrespect their fans a lot and rely on media play and just "hype". Like "ooooh, finally, she gets to shine"... and well, not really, but the fans are going to be blinded by the bling bling of all, I wouldn't call it love but strong idealized movement which isn't really moving forward.
Her solo moments were too cringey, not sure if she was trying to portray a drunk person? In that case, it would have a pass, but it was all so not coordinated, it was painful to see for me.
They just wanted pretty screenshots and ads and they got it.
Music wise... I don't think they achieved anything imho.
PS. I am not hating on the artist, I just dislike the ways some (they or their companies or both) move in the industry and how underwhelming is all.
lol not hating? believe me you're full of it
@@redd1161 the system? Sure. The girls? Nope. They each have their talents, and they aren't using it/the company are under-using them (don't know the word for that).
I believe this track first came out as something very experimental. Bringing in certain strong element from trot. Depending on the listener, the producer might have gone too far. They compensated with visual sophistication and used the dance moves
to bridge the gap. We're they successful? In my opinion, only partially. Meaning, not a homerun, However, I respect the guts to try something new, and the judgment ultimately falls on the public. It is a pop song. However, why do something unproven with Jisoo. The rest of the girls got to do what they were good at or wanted to. I highly doubt she wanted really badly to do trot. Not fair.
@@komerican-og That's what I mean. All the time I get this feeling that they are somewhat pushed to do things they are not comfortable doing just because they need to fill a quota (aka in the end take money from fans). And it makes me uncomfortable for them. I might be not right and she totally wants to do that, but... I think they have to actually take some time for themselves and reflect on what they want to do: be a doll/puppet of sorts (which isn't easy as it takes a huge toll on your mind) or be a singer/dancer/model/actress/... or any other thing they decide! Imho having 0 say in "your" music, or not being encouraged from their company to be involved in the music process means a lot 🙁
One thing though~ Great risk is the way to achieve great gain. If I was YG, I would not have put any risk on Jisoo, but then it is just me. She might have actually wanted a chance at this. So who are we to say. However, one thing I am upset about. These solos give the girls an opportunity to find their color and shine. Do what THEY wanted. I truly hope this song was about that. (Win or lose..it is worth it). If not....that is totally another story.
I'm not a fan but like one or two of their songs. I think Jisoo is very beautiful and had great outfits in this mv, but that's about it, the song is very underwhelming. As beautiful as Jisoo is, she's not a singer. The song, the voice.....idk, very meh. Shocked this is what they went with as her first solo.
I am shocked also. I never been a fan of Trot. It has become popular again in Korea among young people. Not my cup of tea. I felt the clash so..harsh
Of course she's a singer, you don't survive 5yrs of intense YG training if you can't sing first and foremost. The question is whether you personally like, or not, her vocal style, characteristics, range, falsetto, etc.. I respect your opinion, I just wish people like you would stop making declarative statements as if you're stating a fact. It's far more effective to start with 'In my opinion she's not a singer'.
@@-insert- the poor girl struggles. Everyone knows in kpop you don't need to be a real singer, visuals are more important, unfortunately.
That's what got her in and keeps her there. No matter how much you like her, all you have to do is hear her live and watch her perform live. She's not a singer, not a dancer, but very very beautiful. If it wasn't for that she'd never make it as an idol. Pretty privilege and influence exist. The Kendall Jenner's of the world, have you seen the girl walk? She can walk as most people can.....but can she walk well?? Does she have a supermodel strut? No, but she's pretty and rich so she gets a pass. As a fan its important to be objective, and not let your bias blind you. Jisoo seems sweet, but I'm not going to say she's a vocalist just because I like her.
@@jennd1298 I have seen her live, in Nov, in Hamiliton. While her voice may not, for me, be as compelling as Jennie's or Rosè's she can sing. I do agree with regards to her dancing, it's meh. As for her visuals I acknowledge that she's beautiful but she's not my type of beautiful. Jennie and Rosè are my type of beautiful. And while as a true OT4 I may be giving her too much credit it's equally possible that you're not giving her enough. It's all a matter of personal opinion which is why I'm always careful to not state absolutes.
As for pretty privileges, it exists, always has, always will. Everywhere, in every industry. I don't think kpop is any better or worse.
And thank you for not devolving this conversation into insults, it's becoming more and more difficult to conduct respectful conversations.
@-insert- very well said. She surely is not a power house vocalist. But these groups are like a sport team. They all have a role to play. It is one of the strongest components of Kpop groups. It is nearly impossible for one person to be nearly perfect and be great at everything. As a vehicle to deliver musical and visual content, these groups have much better chance. Visuals, vocal color, etc. Can be as important as vocal prowess, rapping and dancing. Just like having all shooters in a B ball team does not make the best team.