Yes, it is very hard to justify the price, but Larsen says with proper care, that they will last 3 to 5 times longer that other strings. Time will tell if that is true. After 2 concerts, I can say that I am loving them more and more. They are so rich with overtones, vibrant and yet very warm and responsive. The break in time was so fast, and they have stable tuning after 2 days.
Please, can you tell me the diameter of G and D gold strings? No information on Larsen website. Thinking of adding them to Perpetual steel core chrome wound A and also chrome wounded E like Pirastro 1 E or Spirocore E.
I measure the G at .78 and the D at .74, but i need new batteries in my calipers and it was acting funny. They are similar in diameter to other modern strings. You never know until you try, but my gut feeling is that the chrome Steelcore A may sound a little tinny beside these strings. I find the wound E strings to be a bit dull and colourless. They solve some problems, but add others. if your fiddle is super bright or harsh on the top end, then the wound E, or a thick guage E (like golbrakat 27, or the il Cannone 28 E that comes in this set) will help to tone it down.
@@bravurahouse8990 Thank you for your measurement! yes, super bright on E. Please, can you tell me, in what measures did you measured? It is a pity, but we, in Europe, use millimeters:)
@@bravurahouse8990Is golden wounding easier to slide for sweaty left hand than silver wounding? For easy, I mean as easy and smooth as on chrome wounded strings?
We're grateful for your positive review and so happy that you are satisfied with your Larsen Il Cannone Gold Strings! 😊🙏 They really do sound amazing on your violin! And we hope the longevity compensates for the initial pricetag, making it an affordable choice over time.
If you have a good old Italian or French violin ,the strings really don't matter much . Dominant or Peter Infeld will do the job quite well . Don't get carried away by fancy boxes and packaging. It is important to use a good E string . Pirastro Gold or Eva Gold E are both excellent
My 1776 Italian violin is in all its glory with good strings. Dominant strings do absolutely nothing for it. If you are playing a concerto in front of an orchestra, you will greatly appreciate many of the new strings on the market. They are much more responsive, colourful, projecting, stable tuning. I will be carried away any day by anything but dominant strings.
@@DanielMasmanian the end pin sheared off on my modern Italian violin in the middle of a concert! I had a big week of concerts and recordings with big solos and needed a good fiddle. I was put in a room at Heinl’s Violin Co. In Toronto with a dozen violins and told to pick one! Like a kid in a candy store. This violin stood above the rest and of course i got hooked on it. With a lot of creative financing, trades and time, I made the best deal of my life. Thank you for the kind words.
Those strings sound almost as good as Joseph Silversteins on his Guarnieri Del Jeso in 1982. I think you got yourself a very nice sounding set of violin strings. I hope that you will enjoy them. This may be the going rate now for violin strings that are well made. One advantage of gold is that it resists tarnishing. I think it is too soft a.metal for violin strings because of the friction of the bow and you will have to be careful not to use metal flecked violin rosin because it will erode the gold winding. That aside I think you've found very nice violin strings. I wouldn't mind a set to try but I have to be practice. I think I would have done. The same if I had an opportunity the Larsen high e string reportedly is made in Denmark. As is the Jargar high e string. The best sounding high e string I have used was standard in a Eva Pirazzi Green Pk. I haven't played violin seriously since 1972. I stopped playing in6th grade because I didn't have a grasp of accurately tuning and electrinic.tuners weren't yet available. Finally in 1980 I pulled the plates off my great grandfathers violin. Oh what a misstake! I didn't have a jig to hold it in proper alignment when I re glued it. The fingerboard got on crooked. I still believe gut strings have better harmonics and are easier.on the fingers. In hot weather gut seem to go limp. So far EVA PIRAZZI HAVE BEEN FAITHFUL TO ME AND SOUND CLOSEST TO PROFESSIONAL SOUND. I HOPE YOU WILL KEEP US POSTED ON YOUR LARSEN EL- CANON VIOLIN STRINGS I THINK THEY SOUND WONDERFUL. LET US KNOW AFTER 3 MONTHS HOW THEYRE HOLDING PITCH ETC. I WOULD BE VARY CURRIOUS. THANKS FOR THE SHOW AND TELL. ENJOY!
Curious how much actual gold is put on G and D string so after they are used, how much would be melt in return. Also the E string from this set is really cheap if bought seperately like $10. And you can buy Larsen Gold E with actual gold on it for $12. Curious which one is better and why they not add E with actual gold to the set
I bet the gold is plated onto something else, maybe copper or silver. Gold is really dense: 19.3 g/cc. Silver is 10.5 g/cc, copper is 8.95 g/cc, and aluminum is 2.7 g/cc. Some viola C strings use tungsten which is also 19.3 g/cc. A solid gold winding would be a little over 1/2 the thickness of a silver one of equal mass, which would result in the string having a smaller diameter. A gold plated copper winding could have the same effective density as silver. Of course, the construction of the string matters and also the windings are probably alloys, not pure elements. These would have densities different from the elements that make them up. Pure gold is very soft and would wear out quickly. Most wound D and G strings have more than one layer of metal winding, frequently of different metals, not to mention other materials like polymer (silk?) threads wound around the core. No doubt a lot of trade secrets are involved in string making that would take some serious laboratory analysis to figure out. Currently, I have a Warchal Amber G and D string on my violin. The silver D measures 0.61 mm and the (silver, seems pretty conventional) G measures 0.78 mm, just like the Il Cannone Gold. A hydronalium (alloy of aluminum) D on my other violin measures 0.81 mm and its G measures 0.78 mm (these are Warchal Brilliant). "Aluminum" D being larger than a "silver" G is not unusual.
interesting thought! lol. how do you measure better? Hands down, they are better than Rondo. but, it is hard to justify the price, when practicing more sounds even better.
It was very fast. 2 days for tuning. I also use a tailpiece by les bois d'harmonie which dramatically reduces string stress with tuning. I would imagine the strings would settle in 3 or 4 days with a traditional set up.
One thing i hate about the violin is that it's overpriced. We don't have to deal with this as pianists. We can practice on a clunker at home and they have a grand piano where we perform at and then we don't have to worry about changing strings every few months.
For $40, you can get a decent set of Tonicas that will last for the average user for a year or two. These Gold strings are a real niche product for a very small market. LARSEN does say that they will last 3 to 5 times longer then other strings, so if that turns out to be true, it will make them less outrageous.
Not all violinists love throwing money around. I consider myself more of a fiddler, only my E string is gold. I’ve never spent more than $200 for a violin, or $100 for a bow.
I play violin too. I ended up trying some fiddlerman strings which are on sale right now for $20. I'm totally fine with them. I'm so done with paying over $100 for strings. I think they're usually $32 though.
@@glennlopez6772 you can still get hand made gut strings in the baroque tradition. They are made from catgut (sheep’s intestines), hand stretched and wound for baroque violins tuned to A415 kHz. If you breathe, they go out of tune! Beautiful warm tone but little volume and may last a month.
Modern high tension strings last longer and stay better in tune with fine tuners. The traditional violin setup was ideal for gut strings. Most pro players still use the old setup even with synthetic strings but I tried this tail piece from les bois d'harmonie along with a Kevlar tail chord 25 years ago, and it really opened up my fiddle and improved the overall tone. I put them on all my better quality instruments to get the best out of them. www.bravurahouse.com
Yes, it is very hard to justify the price, but Larsen says with proper care, that they will last 3 to 5 times longer that other strings. Time will tell if that is true. After 2 concerts, I can say that I am loving them more and more. They are so rich with overtones, vibrant and yet very warm and responsive. The break in time was so fast, and they have stable tuning after 2 days.
Please, can you tell me the diameter of G and D gold strings? No information on Larsen website. Thinking of adding them to Perpetual steel core chrome wound A and also chrome wounded E like Pirastro 1 E or Spirocore E.
I measure the G at .78 and the D at .74, but i need new batteries in my calipers and it was acting funny. They are similar in diameter to other modern strings. You never know until you try, but my gut feeling is that the chrome Steelcore A may sound a little tinny beside these strings. I find the wound E strings to be a bit dull and colourless. They solve some problems, but add others. if your fiddle is super bright or harsh on the top end, then the wound E, or a thick guage E (like golbrakat 27, or the il Cannone 28 E that comes in this set) will help to tone it down.
@@bravurahouse8990 Thank you for your measurement!
yes, super bright on E.
Please, can you tell me, in what measures did you measured? It is a pity, but we, in Europe, use millimeters:)
@@adelkharisov I am Canadian, so we use metric too. .78mm for the\ g. so a 27 gauge e string is 0.27 mm .
@@bravurahouse8990Is golden wounding easier to slide for sweaty left hand than silver wounding?
For easy, I mean as easy and smooth as on chrome wounded strings?
We're grateful for your positive review and so happy that you are satisfied with your Larsen Il Cannone Gold Strings! 😊🙏 They really do sound amazing on your violin! And we hope the longevity compensates for the initial pricetag, making it an affordable choice over time.
My pleasure!
If you have a good old Italian or French violin ,the strings really don't matter much . Dominant or Peter Infeld will do the job quite well . Don't get carried away by fancy boxes and packaging. It is important to use a good E string . Pirastro Gold or Eva Gold E are both excellent
My 1776 Italian violin is in all its glory with good strings. Dominant strings do absolutely nothing for it. If you are playing a concerto in front of an orchestra, you will greatly appreciate many of the new strings on the market. They are much more responsive, colourful, projecting, stable tuning. I will be carried away any day by anything but dominant strings.
@@bravurahouse8990won't even ask how you've found yourself such a marvellous instrument. But you sound great on it, Bravo.
@@DanielMasmanian the end pin sheared off on my modern Italian violin in the middle of a concert! I had a big week of concerts and recordings with big solos and needed a good fiddle. I was put in a room at Heinl’s Violin Co. In Toronto with a dozen violins and told to pick one! Like a kid in a candy store. This violin stood above the rest and of course i got hooked on it. With a lot of creative financing, trades and time, I made the best deal of my life.
Thank you for the kind words.
Absolutely!!! You are right!
Love the dynamo strings!
They have an absolutely beautiful soul
Yes brighter sound snd clearer…I like!
Those strings sound almost as good as Joseph Silversteins on his Guarnieri Del Jeso in 1982. I think you got yourself a very nice sounding set of violin strings. I hope that you will enjoy them. This may be the going rate now for violin strings that are well made. One advantage of gold is that it resists tarnishing. I think it is too soft a.metal for violin strings because of the friction of the bow and you will have to be careful not to use metal flecked violin rosin because it will erode the gold winding. That aside I think you've found very nice violin strings. I wouldn't mind a set to try but I have to be practice. I think I would have done. The same if I had an opportunity the Larsen high e string reportedly is made in Denmark. As is the Jargar high e string. The best sounding high e string I have used was standard in a Eva Pirazzi Green Pk. I haven't played violin seriously since 1972. I stopped playing in6th grade because I didn't have a grasp of accurately tuning and electrinic.tuners weren't yet available. Finally in 1980 I pulled the plates off my great grandfathers violin. Oh what a misstake! I didn't have a jig to hold it in proper alignment when I re glued it. The fingerboard got on crooked. I still believe gut strings have better harmonics and are easier.on the fingers. In hot weather gut seem to go limp. So far EVA PIRAZZI HAVE BEEN FAITHFUL TO ME AND SOUND CLOSEST TO PROFESSIONAL SOUND. I HOPE YOU WILL KEEP US POSTED ON YOUR LARSEN EL- CANON VIOLIN STRINGS I THINK THEY SOUND WONDERFUL. LET US KNOW AFTER 3 MONTHS HOW THEYRE HOLDING PITCH ETC. I WOULD BE VARY CURRIOUS. THANKS FOR THE SHOW AND TELL. ENJOY!
Hi sr, do you have already any update on this? Please make another video explaining the overall experience after changing the strings , thanks
It has been 6 months, so I am planning on making the follow up with some conclusions in the next 2 weeks.
Thank you for this.. great sounding violin
Thank you. I fell in love with it pretty quick. Francesco Gofriller.
Very helpful. Thank you.
Curious how much actual gold is put on G and D string so after they are used, how much would be melt in return. Also the E string from this set is really cheap if bought seperately like $10. And you can buy Larsen Gold E with actual gold on it for $12. Curious which one is better and why they not add E with actual gold to the set
I bet the gold is plated onto something else, maybe copper or silver. Gold is really dense: 19.3 g/cc. Silver is 10.5 g/cc, copper is 8.95 g/cc, and aluminum is 2.7 g/cc. Some viola C strings use tungsten which is also 19.3 g/cc. A solid gold winding would be a little over 1/2 the thickness of a silver one of equal mass, which would result in the string having a smaller diameter. A gold plated copper winding could have the same effective density as silver. Of course, the construction of the string matters and also the windings are probably alloys, not pure elements. These would have densities different from the elements that make them up. Pure gold is very soft and would wear out quickly. Most wound D and G strings have more than one layer of metal winding, frequently of different metals, not to mention other materials like polymer (silk?) threads wound around the core. No doubt a lot of trade secrets are involved in string making that would take some serious laboratory analysis to figure out.
Currently, I have a Warchal Amber G and D string on my violin. The silver D measures 0.61 mm and the (silver, seems pretty conventional) G measures 0.78 mm, just like the Il Cannone Gold. A hydronalium (alloy of aluminum) D on my other violin measures 0.81 mm and its G measures 0.78 mm (these are Warchal Brilliant). "Aluminum" D being larger than a "silver" G is not unusual.
These sound really like very nice strings to me.
They sound nice and well balanced. Great video
Thanks!
The law of diminishing return definitely applies here..... 3 x the price of rondo strings, doesn't sound 3 times better though
interesting thought! lol. how do you measure better? Hands down, they are better than Rondo. but, it is hard to justify the price, when practicing more sounds even better.
sounds completely different...huge improvement...
thicker e means higher tension so more mechanical stress on instrument
Thank you for sharing. How long does this set of strings settle?
It was very fast. 2 days for tuning. I also use a tailpiece by les bois d'harmonie which dramatically reduces string stress with tuning. I would imagine the strings would settle in 3 or 4 days with a traditional set up.
@@bravurahouse8990 Thanks a lot! Are the strings still sounding good now?
@@clarissechen yes, still very rich, powerful and vibrant. It is only 2 months, but I don't regret the purchase yet.
AT the end u played nice, once relaxed, not by performing but searching for music
So did you break those strings in I'd really love to see a video with them broken in and to hear your feedback
Yes, I have had 6 or 7 concerts with them now. I will do the follow up soon. Still happy, but still choking on the price tag!
I LIKE THE LARSON STRINGS! JUST FROM MY HEARING OVER THE PHONE! IT SOUNDS THOUGH THAT THERE OVER PRICED.
One thing i hate about the violin is that it's overpriced. We don't have to deal with this as pianists. We can practice on a clunker at home and they have a grand piano where we perform at and then we don't have to worry about changing strings every few months.
For $40, you can get a decent set of Tonicas that will last for the average user for a year or two. These Gold strings are a real niche product for a very small market. LARSEN does say that they will last 3 to 5 times longer then other strings, so if that turns out to be true, it will make them less outrageous.
Not all violinists love throwing money around. I consider myself more of a fiddler, only my E string is gold. I’ve never spent more than $200 for a violin, or $100 for a bow.
I play violin too. I ended up trying some fiddlerman strings which are on sale right now for $20. I'm totally fine with them. I'm so done with paying over $100 for strings. I think they're usually $32 though.
What happened to the string makers, who strad owners used?
If they're not affordable and available worldwide, they could also have snob value!
@@glennlopez6772 you can still get hand made gut strings in the baroque tradition. They are made from catgut (sheep’s intestines), hand stretched and wound for baroque violins tuned to A415 kHz. If you breathe, they go out of tune! Beautiful warm tone but little volume and may last a month.
I'd just find out what Hilary uses and go with that. :)
Dominants.
@@LydiaLeongand her old Vuillame violin sound rather nasal.
Why do you use fine tuners for all your strings?
Modern high tension strings last longer and stay better in tune with fine tuners. The traditional violin setup was ideal for gut strings. Most pro players still use the old setup even with synthetic strings but I tried this tail piece from les bois d'harmonie along with a Kevlar tail chord 25 years ago, and it really opened up my fiddle and improved the overall tone. I put them on all my better quality instruments to get the best out of them. www.bravurahouse.com
@@bravurahouse8990 ok great. Thank you!
Whistle While you bow!
Wow worth the money...
To my ear, they sound good but not much better than others. Rediculously expensive!!!
1/4 of the price is in the packaging Jeeze
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Nice. But too expensive.
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