Someone correct me if I'm wrong, but from what I understand from seeing a little bit of cataclysm gameplay from a pserver, feral is even crazier as OT because the feral tree allows you to straight up pick all DPS + tank options. The only sacrifice you have to make are glyphs and 6% magic DR from the resto tree if you want to fully optimize your DPS. Which if you don't care to fully optimize DPS you can take 1 or 2 points out of 'Stampede' and gain 2-4% magic DR. Furthermore you can take 1 or 2 points out of 'Feral Aggression' and you'll be able to have 6% magic DR and still do like 98% of your DPS potential. Even many DPS trinkets help bear out because of how strong agility as a stat is for bear tanking in Cataclysm. It's crazy how strong and versatile feral is in Cataclysm both PvE and PvP-wise.
Bear form is simple but being any kind of Druid isn’t simple, it’s simple to learn your buttons and press them but a truly good Druid can flex between any roll without dropping the ball
I would not say that feral is the easiest class because a lot of times you are not really tanking if you are not main tank. So you basicly need to learn feral dps and do both roles and I have played a lot of Pserver and there are so low amounts of people actualy beeing able to play feral good
Yeah man this goes for all the Druids, everyone says they’re an easy class and then they’ll just like hyper focus on their role without really covering the disaster recovery aspect which IMO is the whole point of the class… you have few buttons because you have a huge, complicated job to do.you need to be able to tank or heal with the minimum tools
All things equal, mitigation is more valuable than hp. Hp only lets me take more damage, agi reduces damage. You can have a lot of effective hp but if you are taking more damage than your healer can output you will eventually die.
@@sanmedina so true. as a healer i cant say how much i hate bear tanks that goes inn with only pvp gear thinking stam is all they need, getting up to like 200k hp, and not only do this still die in 2 hits, but they are a nightmare to keep up and drain my mana so quick, because in that case they just oversized dps, and dont really funcion as a tank
@@sanmedinaNo biggie. Question about feral tank racials though. Which race would you say has the best ones for min-maxy approach to feral tanking. Given tauren hp racial is a joke (5% of BASE HP, aka not counting stamina from gear, and so is troll's regeneration.) It's prob down to 1% crit from worgen or 2% (dodge but not really) from nelf right?
@@The_Yukki Its between Worgen or Troll. Worgen gives 1% crit which is useful in both cat and bear while Troll gives 20% attack speed (and 20% energy regen) which is useful for when you're not tanking and playing cat which is a lot of the time in raids
no era una critica, era porque no me entero de nada, y como veo que eres español, intenaba decirte que si tienes el mismo video pero en español, mis disculpas por mi mala expresion, no soy español, soy catalan de lengua materna vivo en un pueblo y me es dificil aveces expresarme@@sanmedina
Agility boosts your AP/Dodge/SavageDef/Crit. Getting hit increases your AP through Vengeance. Crit is required to trigger Savage Def. If anyone sees this, DO NOT REFORGE DODGE. Please. Reforge Mastery instead to increase the shield you get.
you can either be a good bear and a mediocre cat with the same talents or a good cat and a mediocre bear with the same talents, which for the average guild might be good enough but probably wanna get dual spec anyway
@@sanmedina i was thinkin of having healer offspec and feral mainspec so i could be all 3 roles. healer, dps or tank.. maybe the mediocre bear and good cat can be good enough spec for tanking 5 man heroics and occasional 10 man normals?
low lvl feral tanking is nuts, the AoE damage is always number one, perfect for fast leveling in dungeon runs
best video on cata bears , fukkkk i love this channel ! new sub with the bell.. cant say ty enough
Someone correct me if I'm wrong, but from what I understand from seeing a little bit of cataclysm gameplay from a pserver, feral is even crazier as OT because the feral tree allows you to straight up pick all DPS + tank options. The only sacrifice you have to make are glyphs and 6% magic DR from the resto tree if you want to fully optimize your DPS. Which if you don't care to fully optimize DPS you can take 1 or 2 points out of 'Stampede' and gain 2-4% magic DR. Furthermore you can take 1 or 2 points out of 'Feral Aggression' and you'll be able to have 6% magic DR and still do like 98% of your DPS potential.
Even many DPS trinkets help bear out because of how strong agility as a stat is for bear tanking in Cataclysm.
It's crazy how strong and versatile feral is in Cataclysm both PvE and PvP-wise.
correct, you also get to convince your guild to give you all the dps loot because "im the offtank"
1:04 is really understandable for more Boom Boom and I was like say no more!
Bear form is simple but being any kind of Druid isn’t simple, it’s simple to learn your buttons and press them but a truly good Druid can flex between any roll without dropping the ball
I would not say that feral is the easiest class because a lot of times you are not really tanking if you are not main tank. So you basicly need to learn feral dps and do both roles and I have played a lot of Pserver and there are so low amounts of people actualy beeing able to play feral good
Yeah man this goes for all the Druids, everyone says they’re an easy class and then they’ll just like hyper focus on their role without really covering the disaster recovery aspect which IMO is the whole point of the class… you have few buttons because you have a huge, complicated job to do.you need to be able to tank or heal with the minimum tools
went from melee dps to feral tank. not having brutal impact talent is so triggering when your kick has a 1min cd.
Starting @ 3:55, anyone know what that addon on the left is called? Shows the Heals/Damage Taken on Left and Damage done on Right
that was an old addon not available anymore, but details has the same function in modern classic, just gotta open 2 separate windows
@@sanmedina I actually found it. Called Eavesdrop. Looks like its still going strong.
I've always heard stam was bis. Why do you recommended geming agi?
All things equal, mitigation is more valuable than hp. Hp only lets me take more damage, agi reduces damage.
You can have a lot of effective hp but if you are taking more damage than your healer can output you will eventually die.
@@sanmedina so true. as a healer i cant say how much i hate bear tanks that goes inn with only pvp gear thinking stam is all they need, getting up to like 200k hp, and not only do this still die in 2 hits, but they are a nightmare to keep up and drain my mana so quick, because in that case they just oversized dps, and dont really funcion as a tank
WotLK is a stam stack. TBC was agi stack, and it *looks* like its going back to the agi stacking again with the changes coming up.
Doesn’t more hp = more vengeance as well which means more AP?
Feels awkward to run LW + BS. Kinda want skinning + LW combo
Now i might be slow, but the pre-raid bislist you have in description is for wotlk not cata.
sorry put the one from my wotlk guide notes on accident i just fixed it
@@sanmedinaNo biggie. Question about feral tank racials though. Which race would you say has the best ones for min-maxy approach to feral tanking.
Given tauren hp racial is a joke (5% of BASE HP, aka not counting stamina from gear, and so is troll's regeneration.) It's prob down to 1% crit from worgen or 2% (dodge but not really) from nelf right?
yes@@The_Yukki
@@The_Yukki Its between Worgen or Troll. Worgen gives 1% crit which is useful in both cat and bear while Troll gives 20% attack speed (and 20% energy regen) which is useful for when you're not tanking and playing cat which is a lot of the time in raids
@@dova1072 ah, a shame I went elf then for that 2%pseudo dodge.
What about engineering!??
Good guide
U from India?
LW/BS or LW/JC? please answert ty
dios, dime que tienes el mismo video sin hablar en un ingles tan españolizado XD
es increible como cada vez que alguien se queja del acento lo hace en español
no era una critica, era porque no me entero de nada, y como veo que eres español, intenaba decirte que si tienes el mismo video pero en español, mis disculpas por mi mala expresion, no soy español, soy catalan de lengua materna vivo en un pueblo y me es dificil aveces expresarme@@sanmedina
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What about expertise?
we dont do that here
@@sanmedina but I get parried too much and I wanna do big DMG
Dodge reforge lmao
Agility boosts your AP/Dodge/SavageDef/Crit. Getting hit increases your AP through Vengeance. Crit is required to trigger Savage Def.
If anyone sees this, DO NOT REFORGE DODGE. Please. Reforge Mastery instead to increase the shield you get.
can you play feral druid in cata and be both bear tank and cat dps with same talents?
you can either be a good bear and a mediocre cat with the same talents or a good cat and a mediocre bear with the same talents, which for the average guild might be good enough but probably wanna get dual spec anyway
@@sanmedina i was thinkin of having healer offspec and feral mainspec so i could be all 3 roles. healer, dps or tank.. maybe the mediocre bear and good cat can be good enough spec for tanking 5 man heroics and occasional 10 man normals?