I got chills when Tamera started preaching at 3:25. People... don't be foolish. Don't be so wrapped up in the passion and aesthetics of your romance that you forget to protect yourself. You don't get pre-nups to prepare for divorce, you get pre-nups to prevent your life from getting ruined. People can turn on you in ways unimaginable. I mean, just look at people who murder their spouses for insurance money. You think she would've married him knowing he was that type of guy?? Like Jeannie said, a prenup protects your family, not just you. It also makes for a much, MUCH less stressful experience should a divorce ever occur. Don't be foolish enough to assume your relationship would never deteriorate to that level. No one gets married thinking they will get divorced; you hope for the best, but prepare for the worst. My own life experiences simply do not allow me to be as naive as Adrienne.......
I'm a very firm believer in "hope for the best, prepare for the worst". having a prenup doesn't mean you're expecting the marriage to end, it's just preparing for the worst case scenario.
Tamar's comment about her and Vincent having a discussion on the topic of divorce really brought a tear to my eye. The fact that they chose not to get a prenup because they both agreed that "divorce is not an option. It is the last, last, last thing to do." That was a really beautiful thing to hear! :)
Tunisia Lewis WHEN they divorce, I hope Tamar takes all his money. Tamar says Mariah should have a prenup to protect herself but didn't want Vince to get a prenup ?? LOL hypocrite
And I can't stress this enough: it's not the rich people who need prenups *it's the middle class, lower middle class etc. hard working people who are barely being able to pay for what they have - these are the people who NEED PRENUPS!* Rich people can afford to pay for a divorce, regular people can't, they need to have all these financial things figured out beforehand when it's still possible to do all in peace.
She isn't naive, she thinks that divorce would bring her so much of his millions. When your husband is rich, you aren't naive if he doesn't a pre-nups. Actually she is very smart.
After seeing so many videos of this show before coming to this one, I was not at all surprised she was the one to bring that point up. It is quite a common opinion though, even from the smartest of people. It's hard to balance the stigma vs the logic behind prenups. I just knew she would be the one to verbalize it.
I used to think just like Adrienne and feel like having a prenup was preparing for divorce. You can chant "divorce is not an option" all you want but the reality is IT IS an option and people can change. YOU can change. Anyone can become a monster if they don't keep themselves humble and in check especially when money is involved. A prenup should be a protection for both people in the marriage.
Which is what Jeannie learned during her divorce. People change and you have to protect what's yours. I am so happy Adrienne has changed over the years and is wiser because had she kept that same mindset I would have been worried for her
Why is Loni all surprised about Tamar not having a prenup when the SAME EXACT conversation took place a year prior and she had pretty much the SAME EXACT response to the SAME EXACT revelation by Tamar.
They really do have to. It's just part of the talk show set up, the producers want them to. That's why they have to re- explain things that die- hard fans are used to
Lowkey, I think Tamar was trying to point out that Adrienne appears to be the ONLY breadwinner in her family and she should get a prenup (like Jeanie). Tamar has her career, her entire family, her sisters, her Mom, and even her husband that can support her if things go wrong. I don't feel like Adrienne has a stable career to be so carefree and naive about things like that, she should take it serious because eventually (she claims) she will get married.
Oh Adrienne... Isn't she the one who bought her boyfriend a car? Be smart girl. You got Cheetah money. BE SMART. Quit that romantic foolishness and protect yourself. Ain't nothin like divorce, hurt, bitterness and millions of dollars to make people go crazy
Exactly. Just because you are both very much in love now, does not mean that the possibility of something bad happening doesn't exist years from now. Not saying it will happen, but it's important that both parties protect themselves for when things do turn ugly.
Just hearing Tamera telling A, that people change during a break up and knowing Jeanie cried after divorce wishing she didn't marry the man he knew today. Use this advise! However I am so happy for Jeanie now. She is just glowing and full of life even more so as she found love within her self and she has found a handsome, kind man who wants to stand by her side through her success and support her!! 😍♥️
+maz g yep it is. When you are logical and being wise, then of course you see prenup as common sense. Some people think they can predict everything about human behavior when it come to break up or the future..
maz g yes and if you live in a dream world that everything that happens in a relationship just must be romantic as opposed to common sense then I hope you didn’t get a prenup and I hope you learn a good lesson in the divorce.
Ya because unlike you and ur partner build something together than you should, because it actually takes all of the financial pressure of the marriage. Because your money and ur issues don't become your partners issues which in some cases causes one to keep screts about it to the other etc
this may have been one of the best discussions they've had. they were all talking from experience, and instead of shaming each other for their opinions, they were genuinely trying to help each other understand, and to learn from each other this felt like what i always hoped the show would be. like getting advice from an older sister. i'm nowhere near getting married but i'd sure as hell like some insight for the future
I think pre-nups are VERY smart things. My uncle (who is a high ranking officer and shareholder for a Fortune 500 company) and his wife did not get a pre-nup prior to their marriage. It turned out to be an all out war in the courts and guess who got half of his hard earned money. She did. Before I get married, I plan on getting a pre-nup and I hope my future spouse plans on doing the same.
"Divorce is not an option" but she's currently in the process of getting divorced ugh shows how much life can change even when you strongly believe something or feel strongly about something/ someone.
+Pernell Yes! Yes ! Yes! She knows good and well that she did not marry him because she truly loved him or was the most attracted to him. She married him because he had a little coin.She has love for him as a person and now she has grown to tolerate him especially because she has a child with him. But she doesn't need to keep lying about it she can fool us but not God.
+AUser0000001 no . let me tell you why what you just said is simply just NO. Tamar got her own coin. if she cant survive off that, best believe she can live off that Toni braxton coin. Tamar did not under any circumstances marry vincent for his coin. that man was there for her when she really needed a REAL man, thats why she is IN LOVE WITH HIM. dont make her out to be some gold digger.
+AUser0000001 hol up. no one knows what god can be telling anybody. that's only between god and the person who he is trying to tell something to, reither if it's a sign or not. so stop "assuming" what you think. because your thought could be wrong. be careful what you say. and you don't know how Tamar fell in love with Vince.you don't look into a crystal ball and see the past or the future. no boobooski this isnt the smurfs.this is life.and Tamar isn't a "gold digger" because that's what your low key saying. you not slick.and I could careless if you posted this comment long ago.you don't understand Tamar&Vince's relationship. if you know Tamar&Vince's full story then you call me back. and if you don't? which Ik you don't..😒 you can several.💺💺
+AUser0000001 hol up. no one knows what god can be telling anybody. that's only between god and the person who he is trying to tell something to, reither if it's a sign or not. so stop "assuming" what you think. because your thought could be wrong. be careful what you say. and you don't know how Tamar fell in love with Vince.you don't look into a crystal ball and see the past or the future. no boobooski this isnt the smurfs.this is life.and Tamar isn't a "gold digger" because that's what your low key saying. you not slick.and I could careless if you posted this comment long ago.you don't understand Tamar&Vince's relationship. if you know Tamar&Vince's full story then you call me back. and if you don't? which Ik you don't..😒 you can several.💺💺
+AUser0000001 hol up. no one knows what god can be telling anybody. that's only between god and the person who he is trying to tell something to, reither if it's a sign or not. so stop "assuming" what you think. because your thought could be wrong. be careful what you say. and you don't know how Tamar fell in love with Vince.you don't look into a crystal ball and see the past or the future. no boobooski this isnt the smurfs.this is life.and Tamar isn't a "gold digger" because that's what your low key saying. you not slick.and I could careless if you posted this comment long ago.you don't understand Tamar&Vince's relationship. if you know Tamar&Vince's full story then you call me back. and if you don't? which Ik you don't..😒 you can several.💺💺
now in light of jeannie talking about freddy ending up not being the man she married and greedy, this seems so weirdly predictive of futures that its scary
I agree 100% with Tamar!!! Divorce WILL NOT be an option when I get married. There shouldn't be an IF something happens,once you get married that's IT. Through thick and thin, work it out!!!!!! People are too quick to give up now a days.
I think she should have signed the damn pre-nup. No-one gets married with the intention of divorcing. It just happens. I don't have old, crinkled up dollar bills but if I ever get married, best believe the little I have is going to be protected.
Kenya Baker so he cheats on you with your sister, or gives you a disease, or beats you up...youre gonna work it out? but it is true that people give up too quick but sometimes its just not possible to go on. thin line between love and hate dear.
+MrThekidisback They will probably refuse to sign it because "divorce is not an option" Tamar herself said didn't say it was impossible. She specifically said it was a last resort. When means she has exceptions to her rule. Like a wise person should have.
My teacher said if a show runs for a certain of time, then a cast is set for life, like the cast of friends, they are set for life. Then there also how Tia and Tamera used that money, did they save it and invested in something as they got older or did they spend it like no tomorrow.
Prenups aren't just about preparing for your divorce, you can put stuff on it that only comes true if the otherone dies. It can be about "this person's family can't claim my property if I die first" etc.
A person not signing a prenup doesn’t mean they are out for money. It can depend on the terms of the prenup. And Tamera is right about people turning crazy and pretty much unrecognizable. It’s not planning for a divorce... It’s the acknowledgment of the reality that at this time as much as we want to be together and PLAN to stay together BUT anything could happen. Adrienne had better hope she doesn’t learn the hard way.
I kind of agree with Adrienne and Tamar. I wouldn't get a prenup because it's like planning a divorce before you get married. Like Tamar said, divorce is not an option.
+C Ali You have your reasons and its your choice. But there a lot of women and men who ended up regretting that decision because like Tamar said, people become unrecognizable in the even of a break-up. They will turn into an alien that makes you wonder if you ever even knew them. Men can become abusive after they become married. Divorce not being an option no matter what sounds like the fantasy of a child still believing in fairy tales. There are always exceptions to every rule. I happen to subscribe to the idea of marriage not being an option except in the case of domestic violence, child abuse, i find out he's a pedophile, he cheats on me regularly(with women young enough to be his daughter, are underage, my sister/family member) is a rapist, becomes a murderer or develops an addiction that it takes over his life and ruins the family such as gambling the family's saving and money meant for the kids. I will divorce a man under those circumstances. Period. And if i had a prenup, there will be stipulations in that contract that if we divorce because of those reasons, he will get nothing from me, i will get primary custody if we have children. Obviously, i get full custody if the divorce is because he is a pedophile/rapist. A prenup is there to protect me and the family we build together. Planning for a divorce is what wise people do because they understand that things can happen and people do change. It's someone willing to deal with reality. Stubbornly refusing to divorce a man who is abusing you, abusing your children and/or financially ruining your family because you don't want to be that woman who gets a divorce and want to stay married no matter what is a sign of foolishness and a selfish mind. And sadly, there are many men and women like this. We all hope for a relationship where both parties a fully committed to the growth and nourishment of the family and marriage. You keep your end of the bargain and he keeps his and doesn't do things to ruin what you've built together. That's amazing. I wish everyone this. But simple statistics and logic dictates things can happen and smart people prepare for it.
That's like saying I plan to have an accident and kill or mame somebody so I need inaurance. Or, I'm getting house insurance because I plan on my house burning down. Insurance doesn't cause a house fire or car accident.
Prenups TRANSLATION = Negotiating the terms of our DIVORCE before we get Married Thus your marriage is a CONTRACTUAL AGREEMENT between two separate parties rather than a Covenantal Union where the Two become ONE
JIX9ISLER1986 with or without a prenup you can have a divorce, which automatically means that you can decide to break the covenant. Covenant may sound nice, but its just a Christian way of saying contract, because also with a prenup both sides agree to keep it even if the other side fails to keep the agreement. And if you read my comment correctly I said every LEGAL marriage.
C Will nope contract has the government in your marriage covenant has God in your marriage two different things newcreeations.org/contracts-vs-covenants-why-the-difference-matters/
I've been married almost 24 years. if we divorced I'd go for nothing. it's stuff. I can buy more stuff and make more money. if I want out, I just want out. I've no plans to get into a long drawn out battle. I do think though that if you come into a marriage with wealth you should protect it. And if you have a problem with saying 'you're right, I want no part of what you already have' there's a problem.
It sucks that Jeannie and Freddy had a prenup that only protected him. We all know how that ended... she ended up paying 🤦🏻♀️ It sucks that he’s rich and kept his wealth, while she’s self-made and probably supports her entire family and still had to pay him.
Pernupt are a great way to protect both parties and any children that might be involved. This is because at the time you still both care for each other. This will result in an agreement made by people who are looking out for the best interest of all involved. It also can weed out those who are looking for money.
Tamar said on this segment that divorce was gonna be the last option between her and Vince. Now they’re heading for divorce and Tamar asks full custody for Logan and told the judge she’ll not provide Vince spousal support. She even went ahead and rent a new apartment worth of 15k a month. Won’t it do it Tamar? 😩
Adrienne is the PHONIESTTTTTTTTTTT. She talked about preparing and talking about “the worst case scenario” in relationships. And she doesn’t think about a prenuptial agreement?
I want her to sign a prenup because I want the mother of my children to be protected, should their be an accident (god forbid), and I can’t protect her. It’s not about divorce. It’s about safety for the family
I agree with the most get a prenup. I feel like divorce should always be the last option but I also feel like it is just being smart. Because when I was younger I like different things now that I'm older I like different things and unfortunately ppl do go apart in this life. Thats the real. So ladies and gentlemen protect your assets for real b/c when breakup happens folks get really upset and they do start acting a damn fool LOL
To each its own. I believe that when you marry, you marry under The Lord. Meaning you know that you know that you know that person is for you and you don't have to worry about "what ifs". I'm not knocking prenups, however, you don't need to be unsure prior marriage.
Freddie got her to sign a prenup because he had more money than her before they got married then turned around and wanted her money when they broke up smh thats crazy
Everybody acts like Tamera aint got no money. The girl is rich! sister sister was huge and i know for damed sure she got PAID! the difference between her and alot of celebs is that she is very down to earth and she not always looking to be in the public eye. Tia and Tamera are classy and they have no let fame change them.. So please stop with that. The Girl has money because if she didnt they wouldnt have a prenup.... :)
dear The Real, I am writing to you not only because I love love love the show but I also love the decoration of the set. I am totally and utterly in love with those planters, I have looked everywhere especially online to find them and I know it's a mixture of different ones but the one in the quilt or cushion pattern like OMG. now the reason for my comment is LOL if you all decide to change the set again all the it is absolutely beautiful, but if you do may I have the entire set that's on Adrienne's and Loni's side, I am so in love with them that I even have a spot in my house reserved for them, and as a faithful and loyal viewer that would be a wonderful gift for me LOL thank you
It's crazy how now 2 marriages on this show are now ending. Prayers up for Jeannie and Tamar ( who was and will always be one of the best Host #TheReal)
I have seen all these episodes before as I have been a huge fan since inception. Now, watching the current episodes and re-watching these ones makes me miss Tamar like crazy. I see a huge difference. Tamar brought something different. Yet initially when she left, I was like no body is irreplaceable. But see me now missing her. She brought something.
Personally, I'm not sure if would get one. I feel like marriage is when you become one with your love one and things like money could make or break your relationship in any way. What I want is to have a relationship built on love and trust, not me worrying about my man doing dumb stuff behind my back and ending up divorce. I hope money will not make our relationship or break it, together or not
+Super Girl You make a good point in that a couple has to approach a prenup with a *healthy* mindset. You can't be getting one because you value and cherish your possession more than your marriage with that person, or out of distrust. But at the same time, you need to protect EACH OTHER. You get a prenup to protect BOTH spouses. When you sign a prenup that both parties agree on, what you've really done is protect one another should a divorce occur. A prenup prevents either spouse from acting crazy and trying to sabotage the other because the prenup restricts so much of what you can or cannot lobby against one another. Without a prenup, one spouse could go berserk on the other and practically ruin that person's life. We can only pray we don't end up with someone like that, but it doesn't always happen that way. It's all love and trust until someone stops loving and trusting. Life is not in your hands, it is unpredictable, so be safe and protect each other.
Marriage is a legal process, as is divorce. Before getting married, it is smart to prepare a document that takes some of the strain, pain and stress out of divorce should you need it. If you can take some time to look at marriage as a legal process before you get married, you will be much better at making those decisions than you will be when you you are experiencing the trauma of divorce. Why not make that process a bit easier on yourself when you have the time to?
Without a prenup, you gone learn ta-day!!!! It's a problem when people can't get married like they used to back in the day. And Loni, I'm hoping she really didn't mean to say a prenup can help protect you from child support obligations?! Poor Tamar, I know what it's like to buy earrings that refuse to stay in their place. How embarrassing for you, wardrobe betta step up the game and make sure she doesn't have any more wardrobe malfunctions....she needs to stay snatched and put together, ok! LOL Love you Tamie Wamie!
I got chills when Tamera started preaching at 3:25. People... don't be foolish. Don't be so wrapped up in the passion and aesthetics of your romance that you forget to protect yourself. You don't get pre-nups to prepare for divorce, you get pre-nups to prevent your life from getting ruined. People can turn on you in ways unimaginable. I mean, just look at people who murder their spouses for insurance money. You think she would've married him knowing he was that type of guy?? Like Jeannie said, a prenup protects your family, not just you. It also makes for a much, MUCH less stressful experience should a divorce ever occur. Don't be foolish enough to assume your relationship would never deteriorate to that level. No one gets married thinking they will get divorced; you hope for the best, but prepare for the worst. My own life experiences simply do not allow me to be as naive as Adrienne.......
Helena best comment ever!
"You don't get pre-nuos to prepare for divorce, you get pre-nups to prevent your life from getting ruined."
Wise words, friend 😌
Helena preach
Helena on this one Adrienne was VERY naive and Tamar and Tamera had to school her on what’s the REAL about relationships
Adrienne isn't naive, she wants to divorce with his money. That's why she doesn't want a prenup.
Woowow her earrings came off after talking about how she will never get divorced. Must have been a sign.
Jeannide V what does that mean?? Lolol
I said the same thing 😂😂
Ingrid Ayarza She actually divorced haha
I was thinking the same thing!
Jeannide V I
YES TAMAR!!! "I wasn't born with a silver spoon in my mouth but I wasn't born with a plastic one either!" YES GAWD!!!! Amen for that!
Nasir Santana shiii I’m eating with a plastic spoon rn
@@oliviarivera490 so a wooden spoon? 👁👄👁
@@amnedits4898 maybe medal
@@kjariousmitchell1686 Metal*
@@hannahwalmer1124 omg how embarrassing😬 I promise Im smarter than that 😂🤣 it was prolly late when I typed that...hopefully
"ooh she's coming undone" Tamar is hilarious
These ladies actually have a DECENT conversation, not like the women of The View.
OMG! YES! The View is so unorganized when it comes to discussion. It's so annoying.
+PSALMSOFSONGS and they talk over each other so much. There's a nice flow to them !
jake bobs I love this show 😍😍😍
+joseaod15 yes the talk more about the stuff that I want to hear about on this show this is why it's my favorite talk show
exactly
The earring coming off turned out to be a definite sign.
ConsiderMeMaybe indeed it was!! lol
Ikr, the timing...
the Universe talks, you betta listen 😉
I CAME LOOKING FOR THIS COMMENT 😂😂😂
@@cesaracuna2762 me too! 🤣
I'm a very firm believer in "hope for the best, prepare for the worst". having a prenup doesn't mean you're expecting the marriage to end, it's just preparing for the worst case scenario.
god bless you for this insight. couldn’t have said it any better
"Divorce is not an option...." Well this is awkward.
Lutendo Madzena 😁
Well this is awkward.....
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and she ended up having to pay him too 😭😭😭😭
c s she didn’t have to pay him
See this is what I like. They're having a conversation and listening to each other without yelling at eachother even if they don't agree👌👍
I appreciate this as well!
Sandy Montilus real refreshing! It was nice
Class!
Because they are not talking about politics... politics and religion turn people crazy
Yes! I can't stand when "some people" get loud and start screaming over the others. Today was a nice discussion.
Tamar's comment about her and Vincent having a discussion on the topic of divorce really brought a tear to my eye. The fact that they chose not to get a prenup because they both agreed that "divorce is not an option. It is the last, last, last thing to do." That was a really beautiful thing to hear! :)
I agree
*****
he has a lot more money than her so
Tunisia Lewis WHEN they divorce, I hope Tamar takes all his money. Tamar says Mariah should have a prenup to protect herself but didn't want Vince to get a prenup ?? LOL hypocrite
WELP! seems like they are getting divorce now
And I can't stress this enough: it's not the rich people who need prenups *it's the middle class, lower middle class etc. hard working people who are barely being able to pay for what they have - these are the people who NEED PRENUPS!* Rich people can afford to pay for a divorce, regular people can't, they need to have all these financial things figured out beforehand when it's still possible to do all in peace.
i didn't expect adrienne to be so naive.
Dalia Ali yes Adrienne is naive asl but she still is kinda young
Ok you smart ass.
She still is IMO
She isn't naive, she thinks that divorce would bring her so much of his millions. When your husband is rich, you aren't naive if he doesn't a pre-nups. Actually she is very smart.
After seeing so many videos of this show before coming to this one, I was not at all surprised she was the one to bring that point up. It is quite a common opinion though, even from the smartest of people. It's hard to balance the stigma vs the logic behind prenups. I just knew she would be the one to verbalize it.
I used to think just like Adrienne and feel like having a prenup was preparing for divorce. You can chant "divorce is not an option" all you want but the reality is IT IS an option and people can change. YOU can change. Anyone can become a monster if they don't keep themselves humble and in check especially when money is involved. A prenup should be a protection for both people in the marriage.
Prenup this prenup that. Just don't get married
Me 2
Which is what Jeannie learned during her divorce. People change and you have to protect what's yours. I am so happy Adrienne has changed over the years and is wiser because had she kept that same mindset I would have been worried for her
That's how I use to think as well
The end is so crazy how Tamar was talking and the earring kept falling and now her and Vince are getting divorced.
R.T. H it was that sign that was telling her that the divorce was upon them
Why is Loni all surprised about Tamar not having a prenup when the SAME EXACT conversation took place a year prior and she had pretty much the SAME EXACT response to the SAME EXACT revelation by Tamar.
For people watching the first time
LadyChaos101 WTF does that even mean? "Oh, let's fake your reaction because no one saw it the first time".
senorgato70 basically lol
I said the same thing when I first saw this episode 😩😂😭
They really do have to. It's just part of the talk show set up, the producers want them to. That's why they have to re- explain things that die- hard fans are used to
"She has some OLD, CRINKLED UP $100 bills that we ain't seen in 30 years."
WHAT? XD
In other words, Mariah is "old" money. Maybe not old as say the Kennedy's but she didn't just come into wealth
Uhm we saw the video and heard it dumbass
+promprom u can't be talking to me. Take your anger and direct it back to whoever hurt you as a child.
It just means that Mariah has had a lot of money for a very long time...
+rudegyaloving Your comment gave me life!!!
Lowkey, I think Tamar was trying to point out that Adrienne appears to be the ONLY breadwinner in her family and she should get a prenup (like Jeanie). Tamar has her career, her entire family, her sisters, her Mom, and even her husband that can support her if things go wrong. I don't feel like Adrienne has a stable career to be so carefree and naive about things like that, she should take it serious because eventually (she claims) she will get married.
she's engaged now . 💁
Tay Tay "kilt" it!! #Slay "Ooo ooo, she's coming undone!" "She can't be humpty dumpty!" #Weak 😂
"oooh she's coming undone...." LMAO! luv it...
Damn, did Loni just clown Tamar’s marriage?
Oh Adrienne... Isn't she the one who bought her boyfriend a car? Be smart girl. You got Cheetah money. BE SMART. Quit that romantic foolishness and protect yourself. Ain't nothin like divorce, hurt, bitterness and millions of dollars to make people go crazy
Exactly. Just because you are both very much in love now, does not mean that the possibility of something bad happening doesn't exist years from now. Not saying it will happen, but it's important that both parties protect themselves for when things do turn ugly.
Just hearing Tamera telling A, that people change during a break up and knowing Jeanie cried after divorce wishing she didn't marry the man he knew today.
Use this advise! However I am so happy for Jeanie now. She is just glowing and full of life even more so as she found love within her self and she has found a handsome, kind man who wants to stand by her side through her success and support her!! 😍♥️
isnt getting a pre-nup just common sense whether you're rich or poor
+maz g yep it is. When you are logical and being wise, then of course you see prenup as common sense. Some people think they can predict everything about human behavior when it come to break up or the future..
maz g yes and if you live in a dream world that everything that happens in a relationship just must be romantic as opposed to common sense then I hope you didn’t get a prenup and I hope you learn a good lesson in the divorce.
Ya because unlike you and ur partner build something together than you should, because it actually takes all of the financial pressure of the marriage. Because your money and ur issues don't become your partners issues which in some cases causes one to keep screts about it to the other etc
**Tamar's earring falls out**
Tamar: oooo o o o she's coming undone
Loni: I think that's called a lie
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I thought I was the only one who heard Loni say that!!!
She really said that! 😂 love how real loni is!
Tamar earring falling off after she said she doesn’t have a prenup was a total sign to get one 😂😂
this may have been one of the best discussions they've had. they were all talking from experience, and instead of shaming each other for their opinions, they were genuinely trying to help each other understand, and to learn from each other
this felt like what i always hoped the show would be. like getting advice from an older sister. i'm nowhere near getting married but i'd sure as hell like some insight for the future
I think pre-nups are VERY smart things. My uncle (who is a high ranking officer and shareholder for a Fortune 500 company) and his wife did not get a pre-nup prior to their marriage. It turned out to be an all out war in the courts and guess who got half of his hard earned money. She did. Before I get married, I plan on getting a pre-nup and I hope my future spouse plans on doing the same.
"Divorce is not an option" but she's currently in the process of getting divorced ugh shows how much life can change even when you strongly believe something or feel strongly about something/ someone.
My mom always told me: you don’t know who you’re married to until you divorce them
That earring falling off was a sign from God. Lol i dont know what it was a sign for but it was sayin something. 😂😂😂
+Pernell Yes! Yes ! Yes! She knows good and well that she did not marry him because she truly loved him or was the most attracted to him. She married him because he had a little coin.She has love for him as a person and now she has grown to tolerate him especially because she has a child with him. But she doesn't need to keep lying about it she can fool us but not God.
+AUser0000001 no . let me tell you why what you just said is simply just NO. Tamar got her own coin. if she cant survive off that, best believe she can live off that Toni braxton coin. Tamar did not under any circumstances marry vincent for his coin. that man was there for her when she really needed a REAL man, thats why she is IN LOVE WITH HIM. dont make her out to be some gold digger.
+AUser0000001 hol up. no one knows what god can be telling anybody. that's only between god and the person who he is trying to tell something to, reither if it's a sign or not. so stop "assuming" what you think. because your thought could be wrong. be careful what you say. and you don't know how Tamar fell in love with Vince.you don't look into a crystal ball and see the past or the future. no boobooski this isnt the smurfs.this is life.and Tamar isn't a "gold digger" because that's what your low key saying. you not slick.and I could careless if you posted this comment long ago.you don't understand Tamar&Vince's relationship. if you know Tamar&Vince's full story then you call me back. and if you don't? which Ik you don't..😒 you can several.💺💺
+AUser0000001 hol up. no one knows what god can be telling anybody. that's only between god and the person who he is trying to tell something to, reither if it's a sign or not. so stop "assuming" what you think. because your thought could be wrong. be careful what you say. and you don't know how Tamar fell in love with Vince.you don't look into a crystal ball and see the past or the future. no boobooski this isnt the smurfs.this is life.and Tamar isn't a "gold digger" because that's what your low key saying. you not slick.and I could careless if you posted this comment long ago.you don't understand Tamar&Vince's relationship. if you know Tamar&Vince's full story then you call me back. and if you don't? which Ik you don't..😒 you can several.💺💺
+AUser0000001 hol up. no one knows what god can be telling anybody. that's only between god and the person who he is trying to tell something to, reither if it's a sign or not. so stop "assuming" what you think. because your thought could be wrong. be careful what you say. and you don't know how Tamar fell in love with Vince.you don't look into a crystal ball and see the past or the future. no boobooski this isnt the smurfs.this is life.and Tamar isn't a "gold digger" because that's what your low key saying. you not slick.and I could careless if you posted this comment long ago.you don't understand Tamar&Vince's relationship. if you know Tamar&Vince's full story then you call me back. and if you don't? which Ik you don't..😒 you can several.💺💺
now in light of jeannie talking about freddy ending up not being the man she married and greedy, this seems so weirdly predictive of futures that its scary
I loved Tamar in this segment for some reason! She was still normal Tamar but not "too-too much". that's my girl. I love her and Tamera.
I agree 100% with Tamar!!! Divorce WILL NOT be an option when I get married. There shouldn't be an IF something happens,once you get married that's IT. Through thick and thin, work it out!!!!!! People are too quick to give up now a days.
I think that is easier said than done. If someone was to cheat, for example, I don't think you have to put up with that.
I think she should have signed the damn pre-nup. No-one gets married with the intention of divorcing. It just happens.
I don't have old, crinkled up dollar bills but if I ever get married, best believe the little I have is going to be protected.
Kenya Baker so he cheats on you with your sister, or gives you a disease, or beats you up...youre gonna work it out? but it is true that people give up too quick but sometimes its just not possible to go on. thin line between love and hate dear.
Kenya Baker What if the person you married wants to get a divorce.
+MrThekidisback They will probably refuse to sign it because "divorce is not an option" Tamar herself said didn't say it was impossible. She specifically said it was a last resort. When means she has exceptions to her rule. Like a wise person should have.
I wonder how much Tamera made from Sister Sister. She keeps taking about protecting that money
I mean it's still on in reruns
Every time it airs on tv she gets a check. It still comes on to this day so she's still getting checks from it.
According to my Google searches, her current net worth is between $4-8 million
Wealth wise at this table is Tamar, Tamera, Adrian, and then the other two. 7 mil, 3 mil. 2 mil, and then the 1s
My teacher said if a show runs for a certain of time, then a cast is set for life, like the cast of friends, they are set for life. Then there also how Tia and Tamera used that money, did they save it and invested in something as they got older or did they spend it like no tomorrow.
“Divorce is not an option” Tamar just jinxed her own realtionship.
"never say never" anyone?
Prenups aren't just about preparing for your divorce, you can put stuff on it that only comes true if the otherone dies. It can be about "this person's family can't claim my property if I die first" etc.
A person not signing a prenup doesn’t mean they are out for money. It can depend on the terms of the prenup. And Tamera is right about people turning crazy and pretty much unrecognizable. It’s not planning for a divorce... It’s the acknowledgment of the reality that at this time as much as we want to be together and PLAN to stay together BUT anything could happen. Adrienne had better hope she doesn’t learn the hard way.
Keia Love-Black now that she’s married I hope not either and I REALLY hope that she was smart enough to sign a prenup
Tam saying sometimes when people break up theu turn into the people you DIDNT marry... That's exactly what jeanie said when she got divorced.😳
I wouldn't want a prenup, because to me it says "I fear we will divorce" however I understand them.
I feel bad because she said it would be the last resort, I hope she can find clarity in her divorce and move on and he happy ❤️
Totally agree with Tamar! But it was hilarious when the earing fell off "uh she's coming undone"😂 "won't He do it?" "yes, He will! If you let Him" 🙌😂
Ale Montero 😂😂😂😂😂 i cant with Tamar.. She always got answers
Wow....when her earring fell off and Loni was hinting that it was a sign....is CRAZY...especially now that Tamar is getting a divorce.
Tamar- "Vincent and I, we don't have a prenup."
Loni-"YOU AINT GOT A PRENUP"
😂😂😂
Adrienne get that prenup girl! Get it!
So amazing how Adrienne changed now and she’s all about prenups and post ups
4 years later Tamar is getting divorced
Anybody came back here after they heard Tamar getting a divorce? So sad man 😓😓😓
princesss mee
princesss does she wish she had a pre up now?
I kind of agree with Adrienne and Tamar. I wouldn't get a prenup because it's like planning a divorce before you get married. Like Tamar said, divorce is not an option.
That's what they all said to try and fool a man .
+C Ali You have your reasons and its your choice. But there a lot of women and men who ended up regretting that decision because like Tamar said, people become unrecognizable in the even of a break-up. They will turn into an alien that makes you wonder if you ever even knew them. Men can become abusive after they become married. Divorce not being an option no matter what sounds like the fantasy of a child still believing in fairy tales. There are always exceptions to every rule. I happen to subscribe to the idea of marriage not being an option except in the case of domestic violence, child abuse, i find out he's a pedophile, he cheats on me regularly(with women young enough to be his daughter, are underage, my sister/family member) is a rapist, becomes a murderer or develops an addiction that it takes over his life and ruins the family such as gambling the family's saving and money meant for the kids. I will divorce a man under those circumstances. Period.
And if i had a prenup, there will be stipulations in that contract that if we divorce because of those reasons, he will get nothing from me, i will get primary custody if we have children. Obviously, i get full custody if the divorce is because he is a pedophile/rapist.
A prenup is there to protect me and the family we build together. Planning for a divorce is what wise people do because they understand that things can happen and people do change. It's someone willing to deal with reality.
Stubbornly refusing to divorce a man who is abusing you, abusing your children and/or financially ruining your family because you don't want to be that woman who gets a divorce and want to stay married no matter what is a sign of foolishness and a selfish mind. And sadly, there are many men and women like this.
We all hope for a relationship where both parties a fully committed to the growth and nourishment of the family and marriage. You keep your end of the bargain and he keeps his and doesn't do things to ruin what you've built together. That's amazing. I wish everyone this. But simple statistics and logic dictates things can happen and smart people prepare for it.
That's like saying I plan to have an accident and kill or mame somebody so I need inaurance. Or, I'm getting house insurance because I plan on my house burning down. Insurance doesn't cause a house fire or car accident.
Well, she s getting divorce now so...
Yet she's divorced
Now I wonder if Adrienne got the prenup since she got married after this aired.
Christina Alexander I was wondering that myself
Who came back here after Vince and Tamar announced their divorce?
I would marry you for that sister sister money
Tamar : “divorce is not an option”
2018: Tamar & Vince getting divorced
She said it would be the Last last last option. I guess they reached breaking point
"She can't be humpty dumpty" lmao that was hilarious
Prenups TRANSLATION = Negotiating the terms of our DIVORCE before we get Married
Thus your marriage is a CONTRACTUAL AGREEMENT between two separate parties
rather than a Covenantal Union where the Two become ONE
+JIX9ISLER1986 a legal marriage is ALWAYS an contractual agreement, with or without a prenup.
C Will nope
newcreeations.org/contracts-vs-covenants-why-the-difference-matters/
JIX9ISLER1986 with or without a prenup you can have a divorce, which automatically means that you can decide to break the covenant. Covenant may sound nice, but its just a Christian way of saying contract, because also with a prenup both sides agree to keep it even if the other side fails to keep the agreement. And if you read my comment correctly I said every LEGAL marriage.
C Will nope
contract has the government in your marriage
covenant has God in your marriage
two different things
newcreeations.org/contracts-vs-covenants-why-the-difference-matters/
Tamar says divorce is not an option, but watching in 2020 and she is already divorced
I've been married almost 24 years. if we divorced I'd go for nothing. it's stuff. I can buy more stuff and make more money. if I want out, I just want out. I've no plans to get into a long drawn out battle. I do think though that if you come into a marriage with wealth you should protect it. And if you have a problem with saying 'you're right, I want no part of what you already have' there's a problem.
Jeannie's hair is giving me LIFE. Almost got me thinking I should go blonde again
It sucks that Jeannie and Freddy had a prenup that only protected him. We all know how that ended... she ended up paying 🤦🏻♀️
It sucks that he’s rich and kept his wealth, while she’s self-made and probably supports her entire family and still had to pay him.
@Jenesis J yeah she said it after their divorce that she pays spousal support
yo the fact that her earring came off when they were talking about divorce was crazy
Pernupt are a great way to protect both parties and any children that might be involved. This is because at the time you still both care for each other. This will result in an agreement made by people who are looking out for the best interest of all involved. It also can weed out those who are looking for money.
🤣🤣🤣🤣😩that earring knew something she didn't know ! I swear!
When a man asks for a pre-nup, its degrading and he lacks committment. But when a woman asks for it, she is allowed to protect herself
Double Standards are crazy
Tamar the truth...she is too animated and funny for television...I needed that laugh....classic
Adrienne always dishes it but can’t always take it. She’s so in love with love (which is great!) but she lacks rationality, realism.
Tamar said on this segment that divorce was gonna be the last option between her and Vince. Now they’re heading for divorce and Tamar asks full custody for Logan and told the judge she’ll not provide Vince spousal support. She even went ahead and rent a new apartment worth of 15k a month. Won’t it do it Tamar? 😩
Moussa Keita its funny how you are depending on Wendy's information😭 copy past baby😂
Adrienne is the PHONIESTTTTTTTTTTT. She talked about preparing and talking about “the worst case scenario” in relationships. And she doesn’t think about a prenuptial agreement?
i love this look for loni - the hair, the makeup, the outfit
I want her to sign a prenup because I want the mother of my children to be protected, should their be an accident (god forbid), and I can’t protect her. It’s not about divorce. It’s about safety for the family
Man I wish I could watch these full episodes because this was a GREAT conversation!
Where can you watch the full episodes
Dangggg that earring was like girl stfu you getting a divorce in the future. look at god and his signs. testimony right there!!!
I agree with the most get a prenup. I feel like divorce should always be the last option but I also feel like it is just being smart. Because when I was younger I like different things now that I'm older I like different things and unfortunately ppl do go apart in this life. Thats the real. So ladies and gentlemen protect your assets for real b/c when breakup happens folks get really upset and they do start acting a damn fool LOL
octaviakf v
To each its own. I believe that when you marry, you marry under The Lord. Meaning you know that you know that you know that person is for you and you don't have to worry about "what ifs". I'm not knocking prenups, however, you don't need to be unsure prior marriage.
Freddie got her to sign a prenup because he had more money than her before they got married then turned around and wanted her money when they broke up smh thats crazy
i love this show please dont ever stop filming
Is it me or was lonie and Tamar throwing shade at kandi cause they sign the papers on their wedding day ohh wow
probably. but the main reason why you shouldn't sign it the day of the wedding is bc it won't hold up in court.
kandi ...real housewife star.
Luv4Animexoxo Kandi, writer of your favorite TLC and Destiny's Child songs/albums.
Venessa W after watching the clip just now I was kinda wondering the same thing...hmmmmm 🤔🤔
This is sad. Years later, and tamar is getting divorced. Smh
Tamar saying "divorce is not an option" earing falls off , sad that now they are getting divorced.
Well. Tamar meet last, last, last resort. So sad. I think she tried her best to keep her marriage. But, sometimes your best ain’t good enough.
Tamar: "Divorce is not an option"
Me: "LOL"
Wow that earring told it ALL!!!! THEY ARE NOW DIVORCED.
Everybody acts like Tamera aint got no money. The girl is rich! sister sister was huge and i know for damed sure she got PAID! the difference between her and alot of celebs is that she is very down to earth and she not always looking to be in the public eye. Tia and Tamera are classy and they have no let fame change them.. So please stop with that. The Girl has money because if she didnt they wouldnt have a prenup.... :)
In many segments Tamar's earring was trying to say something.
"Divorce is not an option"
Vincent Herbert
(m. 2008; div. 2019)
- people of the internet... always get a prenup... always
Wow this is weird watching now that Tamar and Vince are going through a divorce
JJ Brown makes you wonder about the earring falling out of her ear right after she said "divorce is not an option" or was that just a coincidence?
Didn't Tamar and Vince get divorced? So it seems like it don't matter if she's had a prenup, that was her second divorce too
That earring was predicting the future
Nikki M it sure was!!
And now Tamar & Vince are getting divorced...
Can we get them to reunite. No shade to the new real but can we get a revamp of this pleeease??!!!
dear The Real, I am writing to you not only because I love love love the show but I also love the decoration of the set. I am totally and utterly in love with those planters, I have looked everywhere especially online to find them and I know it's a mixture of different ones but the one in the quilt or cushion pattern like OMG. now the reason for my comment is LOL if you all decide to change the set again all the it is absolutely beautiful, but if you do may I have the entire set that's on Adrienne's and Loni's side, I am so in love with them that I even have a spot in my house reserved for them, and as a faithful and loyal viewer that would be a wonderful gift for me LOL thank you
Anyone else here after learning about both Tamar and Jeanine's divorce?
It's crazy how now 2 marriages on this show are now ending. Prayers up for Jeannie and Tamar ( who was and will always be one of the best Host #TheReal)
I have seen all these episodes before as I have been a huge fan since inception. Now, watching the current episodes and re-watching these ones makes me miss Tamar like crazy. I see a huge difference. Tamar brought something different. Yet initially when she left, I was like no body is irreplaceable. But see me now missing her. She brought something.
Personally, I'm not sure if would get one. I feel like marriage is when you become one with your love one and things like money could make or break your relationship in any way. What I want is to have a relationship built on love and trust, not me worrying about my man doing dumb stuff behind my back and ending up divorce. I hope money will not make our relationship or break it, together or not
+Super Girl You make a good point in that a couple has to approach a prenup with a *healthy* mindset. You can't be getting one because you value and cherish your possession more than your marriage with that person, or out of distrust. But at the same time, you need to protect EACH OTHER. You get a prenup to protect BOTH spouses. When you sign a prenup that both parties agree on, what you've really done is protect one another should a divorce occur. A prenup prevents either spouse from acting crazy and trying to sabotage the other because the prenup restricts so much of what you can or cannot lobby against one another. Without a prenup, one spouse could go berserk on the other and practically ruin that person's life. We can only pray we don't end up with someone like that, but it doesn't always happen that way. It's all love and trust until someone stops loving and trusting. Life is not in your hands, it is unpredictable, so be safe and protect each other.
I believe that if the two people are truly in love it’s no need for a prenup because he ain’t going no where and she ain’t going on where
"Divorce is not an option" -Tamar xDDDD
edit: wtf was I on jeez lol
With this 70% chance of getting divorce, and I ( god willingly) become a millionaire or billionaire best believe I’m getting a prenup
Blanca Webb don’t get marry Oprah never got married.
The only time women see a prenump as a good thing is when they are the ones with something to lose
Marriage is a legal process, as is divorce. Before getting married, it is smart to prepare a document that takes some of the strain, pain and stress out of divorce should you need it. If you can take some time to look at marriage as a legal process before you get married, you will be much better at making those decisions than you will be when you you are experiencing the trauma of divorce. Why not make that process a bit easier on yourself when you have the time to?
I bet Jeannie is glad she has one.
Listening to Tamar in the past and knowing the truth when her earring fell off it was like OMG let me go pray real fast. GOD IS REAL.
Without a prenup, you gone learn ta-day!!!! It's a problem when people can't get married like they used to back in the day. And Loni, I'm hoping she really didn't mean to say a prenup can help protect you from child support obligations?!
Poor Tamar, I know what it's like to buy earrings that refuse to stay in their place. How embarrassing for you, wardrobe betta step up the game and make sure she doesn't have any more wardrobe malfunctions....she needs to stay snatched and put together, ok! LOL
Love you Tamie Wamie!