A Raiden Main challenged my Clorinde
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- Опубліковано 6 чер 2024
- someone challenged my claim that clorinde is better than raiden on my livestream yesterday.. challenge accepted.
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Sorry Raiden mains.
usually archons have been designed to support (see half of raiden's cons), so the fact that raiden is a contender at all makes me proud of her
now try with raiden 💀
@@redpandalover911probably gonna be faster cause her burst takes less time
@@NIKEYT-zj1pu Sure her burst takes less time, but if the enemy has 2-3m hp then Clorinde's Elemental Skill will deal a ton more damage than Raiden's Burst NA/Charged attacks
Whale debate is so trash c6 arle and neuv 6 > clorinde c6 l
dang and she didn't even use her Skill, where she dishes most of her damage
I do think from a non whale standpoint Raiden is a bit better tho considering Clorinde has some very good constellations and Raiden not so much after c3 (pls do correct me if i'm wrong)
true, her c4 and c6 not that particularly useful
Reminds me of the Arlecchino > Hu tao for whales debate because unlike the latter, arle has great Cons while hu tao sadly has mainly supportive ones like shogun
@@esqpur i did think so, thanks for confirmation
@@agiant5715 yea honestly you only ever hear about her c1 after that no one really cares
(Hu tao)
@quentin no hutao c6 give you 100 cr so you can build your hutao with full dc dylanblignaut6492
kids will argue who's better between them...
men will use them both on different teams...
legends use them both on the same team quickswap style...
Huh quickswap raiden and clorinde ?? Am i missing something
@@kurookami2830 no you aren't, I meant it as something that I'd do if I were still playing genshin, just throw in Nahida and Kazuha, rather than arguing with kids, I did that a few times with Keqing though
@@belenuzx yeah you can if you want, and arguing is dumb anyways it's just raiden and clorinde both need high field time whereas keqing can be quickswap like tighnari
@@belenuzxur dps is going to drop exponentially compared to using hyper carry on either one of them 💀
@@dragunityx12 I stopped caring about shit called DPS after quitting World of Warcraft years ago, after all no contents in Genshin that's hard enough to demand a min-maxing a characters, unless you don't have a properly built characters 🤷🏻♂️
Those who were in stream knows how much he tried, glad u did it
Dude he was busy going insane
Future charecter>>Newer charecter>old charecter
but kazuha is eternal
I love how both clorinde and arlecchino c6 is a literal delete button.
Stop arguing who is better, this game is not even competitive so just use whoever you like more lol
We are talking about who is better and faster at c6 r5 it's not f2p language tho
@@jimin_stan.7 yes but at the end of the day do you gain anything by being faster? I'm just giving my opinion on this, I don't really have anything against players who wanna be competitive, just play the game to our own enjoyment.
Why are you Americans
@@MultiverseRaidenWarriors I'm Asian?
@@ejcubing3622bro they do it just for fun why are you so serious with that
Is 6s the time it takes to Ben Ult Sara Ult Raiden EQ? Someone's Ei just Q's would they be... 5.5s fast?
Might need to start cracking out the Premiere Pro Frame Counters bahahaha
"Stop arguing which character is good🤓☝🏻"
Well this game is clearly about that what can we say.
Clorinde simply decided to become the best electro dps today
(it's personal dmg only so u guys won't cancell me ;D)
raiden c0clorinde c3
raiden c4
when it comes to c6 speedrun, how long burst animations are matter more than strength
You shut his mouth😂😂
Clorinde's C4 Burst has a higher damage cap, however, there are two concerns with this in practice:
- The first Burst does not have the buff, it is following the latter that the condition of C4 applies
- You cannot meet the conditions of this constellation in one cycle with this team, so cannot reach its highest cap [+200% DMG].
- The Burst is divided into 5 iterations of DMG, so the TC is applied independently.
So for now, Clorinde C6 ~ Raiden C6 (with a slight lead for Raiden, because what you showed with the video, Raiden can do it in your hands), but if one day they add Enemies with 4 times more HP, there Clorinde will surpass Raiden.
Ok, but you still have to dose it with speedrunning, it's not necessary.
Not trying to argue or anything, but I'm pretty sure that most good characters would be able to do that at C6R5 with C6R5 supports, correct me if I'm wrong
That ratio jumpscared me
yea, im shock too lol
You gotta be a nerd to cry over which fictional character performs better in a game, just enjoy both
They cant life without comparing anything
@@haris6523 of course they can´t, there´s always a raiden simp waiting for a new char to come and say "raiden is better" xD
@@haris6523 the funny thing is now they come here and say "stop arguing" when they are the first ones to compare raiden to all the other characters
I respect you bro 💪
Cerrada de hocico magistral!!!🤣👍
Quick Question, will Clorinde be better in C0 scenario with same team? without her sig.
Hard to answer but I would say it will be difficult since her sig weapon gives more crit dmg and gives 54% dmg based on your BoL(Bond of Life)
Lo dije clorinde hiba a ser como un kazuha que va a destronar al arconte anemo (venti) pero ahora clorinde destronó a la shogun
Bro challanged the wrong guy😭🙏
ok but im still waiting for navia instead of pulling clorinde
we love to see it , classic raiden players , there is no way raiden c6 or even at least c3 r5 is better than clorinde c6. Gotta love the tears of raiden players lmao.
Sure Raiden is better in the support department but she ain't no way beating clorinde's damage output (video above didn't even showcased her elemental skill, which is her bread and butter in the game)
Why would raiden players be crying? Hardly anyone cares about maximum cost speedruns. There is absolutely no way Raiden gets surpassed by Clorinde at low cost.
@@polychromaa ofc raiden mains likes to bring up *low cost* when losing arguments... Yes we get it, she's a poor man's Clorinde
@@Danielsmith_27 most people in speedrunning care about low to mid cost. C6ing a character genuinely does nothing for you. Comparing 5 cost raiden to 8 cost clorinde is extremely desperate. C3 raiden is better than c3 clorinde anyways
@@polychromaa didn't null my statement that she's a poor man's Clorinde :kek:
Also c6 clorinde is infinitely better and craps on a c6 raiden anyways :kek:
Wait, idk about bro's crit stats
The other factor is that Raiden can technically stop at C3 and produce the same result as C6 Raiden. The difference between C3 and C6 Raiden is only rotation cooldown time, but when speed runs come down to one rotation it doesn’t matter at all. But there are clorinde evolutionary mechanics that are locked behind c4 to 6. So Raiden is cheaper to build as a whale whilst clorinde has higher skill ceiling in regular gameplay
There is no cheap expensive for a whale, they'll take the highest damage option and clorinde is a better whale pull that's it. Whales don't stop at c3 . A welkin player who saves for a long time, go raiden sure but this argument doesn't stand for whales. Raiden got a worse con treatment with being an early unit same with hutao. Fontaine units cons are unarguably better for a whale who wants the highest damage.
Pretty sure C3 chlorine beats C3 Raiden
Let's be honest C3 raiden can do the same coz c456 doesnt do much in personal dps
And she can one shot with her burst with. C2
And for f2ps raiden national exceeds clorinde agro dps wether it's coz xiangling or not idk but clorinde cant do the same in nation coz her personal dmg is not that much outside of agro
Tho obviously you can argue with it but aye it my personal exp
And if the boss has 3-4m hp then c3 raiden would lose to a c6 clorinde because she doesn’t have the dps output of a c6 clorinde
@@blueberrycheesecake455 yeah if you do whale builds c6 clorinde teams are better than c6 raiden teams in dps
raiden c3 = raiden c6
raiden c3 can do the chamber in 6s
and that with not r5 and r5 Elegy for the End in Kujou Sara so raiden better
And if the enemy has like 3-4m hp Raiden would lose hard against Clorinde's damage output
@@Danielsmith_27 nope
@@ansfurn keep coping
@@Danielsmith_27 Well, why do you think that?
@@ansfurn Because the video already proved that Clorinde's damage output is much higher than Raiden's damage output (beating Raiden's 6s triple maguu)... and if the enemy has much larger hp pool then Clorinde's Skill will do more damage than Raiden's Burst-infused NA/CAs thus Clorinde will kill it much faster than Raiden... it's not that hard to understand that Clorinde >>> Raiden in terms of damage output...
Powercreep
Yeah at C6R5
@@animatry7410comparing at c2 and weapon Clorinde is still better
@@danim9141even at c1r1 she's better lol, fontaien constellation powercreep. i was talking about c0r0
Yeah, C6 Clorinde is strong, but C6 Raiden (or even C3) is the same strong. Clorinde is better in terms of dmg output (cuz she doesn’t slash once like Raiden), but Raiden is better for Nuke
Still i am saving primos for raiden and furina .(Need raiden for my arlechino)
Hoyo really did Raiden dirty for giving useless cons after C3. Even at C6, there is no way Raiden would match C6 Clorinde , newer character powercreeps the old ones and that's just how Hoyo rakes the money . I still like both though
Only 5sec 😳💃💜⚡
341 CD how 😂
C6 and signature weapon
Well if you are talking about c6 chlorinde is way better but raiden is still better till c2 imo.
Congratulations on matching c3r1 raiden my bro🤗
not even close lmao.... If the boss has higher hp pool, then he would use clorinde's skill which does 2.5-3x more than damage of Raiden's Burst Infused NA/CAs allowing Clorinde to kill faster than Raiden
@@Danielsmith_27 blud raiden alot of dmg also comes from chraged attacks ....
@@Danielsmith_27 coppelia has 1 million plus hp lets see how well clorinde performs on it
@@argaurav2523 yes her charged attacks also deals alot of damage but not as much as clorinde's
The comparison was literally between C6 of both. It's not esqpur's fault that C6 raiden is trash in comparison to other dps
Be a raiden main
Say raiden is better
Lose
Complain that she gain nothing after c3(would have not complained if they won)
Say she better anyway because they're frustrated
Refuse to eloborate why.
c3r1 Raiden: 6s
c6r5 Clorinde: 5s
Is this really a win?
@@CLTh4nos that 6s raiden c3r1 have been retried for hours... while it took him like just 2-3 retries with Clorinde? And we all know that at higher investment that a c6 raiden is bad compared to a glorious c6 clorinde which improves both her damage and QoL
@@Danielsmith_27 "retried for hours"
Dude, this is 70% CR, not 10%
Still, the average dps for a c3r1 Raiden is way above c3r1 clorinde, and they bring c6r5 as if a proper comparison, shows only clorinde needs c6r5 to beat a c3r1 Raiden.
Wow, what a powercreep.
@@CLTh4nos tell me you don't know clorinde's passive without telling me you don't know clorinde's passive.. and fyi it's not even close since he didn't use clorinde's skill to dish out more damage. c6 clorinde craps on c6 raiden.. Raiden is a poor man's Clorinde
@@CLTh4nos bro its not that. When both are at max potential in c6, clorinde win
at this level of whaling it just comes down to animation times lmao cuz everything is a one shot showcase
raiden has longer animations so it takes a half second longer that’s literally it
Based
c6 clorinde>c6 raiden in dps but not support c3 raiden>c3 clorinde
support? bro, Clorinde was made to be a carry 💀
Wehehehehe
Well raiden supposed to be a "battery support" so...
Yelan is a sub dps but become one of the best DPS at c6 same for furina same for chiori and Raiden dedicated support increase her dps, at higher cons she is a DPS with support capability.
ur mom is my battery support
@@curtis1636 her c4 c5 and c6 doesnt increase her dps
@@7ashed7¿?
c3r1 Raiden: 6s *bring your c3r5 next time
c6r5 Clorinde: 5s
> There is no powercreep
> This community just wants warring
I highly doubt a c3 raiden would fair as well as a c6 Clorinde vs 3-4m hp bosses
Well, after c3 raiden doesnt gain to much, but clorinde gains a lot. Even if raiden was c6, clorinde would still win bro. Its not the end of the world bro, take it easy
@@josetomasrivera5782 as if someone would buy c4 c5 and c6 Raiden before R5 Engulfing.
Genshin average community member always in a parallel reality ☠️
See How fast a c3r1 clorinde can be on this Room and then go back here.
C6 clorinde is straight up immortal tbh...but ya both op
@@josetomasrivera5782the fact that a c3r1 raiden is 1 second behind a c6r5 clorinde, r5 weapons are usually way better than their r1 version
Funny as hell how these Raiden mains are suddenly whining that she has trash cons after C6. Go rant to the devs. C6R5 Raiden is C6R5 Raiden, regardless of where her dmg stops increasing.
And then they're like "oh, but she's a utility support"
Dude, archons after Venti are the best of their element's niche. The hell do you expect? This is a comparison of dmg. Not utility.
They kept bringing up the part that it only took a c3 r1 to one shot triple maguus (grouped) at floor 12-1… which are 800-900k hp at best…
Now if the enemy has 2-3 m hp, what would happen next? She obviously can’t one shot a boss like that so she’ll rely on her burst infused NACAs to deal damage… which falls in comparison to Clorinde’s Impale the Night
Hi
now do coppelia
Ei >>>
Objectively wrong lmao, you just have a cracked build, Raiden is much more universal and birngs more value to any account she's in compared to clorinde
In the support department yeah, but in the dps department Clorinde trashes Raiden
My dick brings more raiden is outdated as of now chlorinde is more fun to play
@@Danielsmith_27 C0 raiden is still better than C0 clorinde, dmg isnt every thing my guy, clorinde gameplay is much more restrictive and her f2p value is dogwater compared to raiden who has much good f2p weapons
The point of the video is about DPS not on what brings value to an account. Clorinde dps > raiden dps. End of debate.
@@riden905 don't remember op mentioning that any where in the video, much less in what basis clorinde> Raiden, but you do you
How she has 340 CD??!!💀
C6R5, using skill in C6 gives more Crit Rate and DMG, while having Absolution at R5 will further increase the Crit DMG given by the Passive
4th
2nd
right
at c6 clorinde is better than raiden
Ei fell of
Hah jokes on you! Raiden far better
raiden herself is the joke
utility yes, damage no
@@Danielsmith_27 let him be, he's lesbian
@@foxacin
nah,he's not lesbian
he's just a guy who is obsessed with butts so much that he uses a zhongli pfp showing a butts
@@foxacinwell that’s one way to say he’s a stubborn loser