Wow, Interesting.. I've been wondering forever now if this was possible.. (for the pins to drip into the Idler)Your the first person I've found talking about this.. Thanks buddy!
Rookie Lock it happened to at least 1 person that I know of, so there’s probably more out there. Hopefully there will be less paperweights out there now 😆
This is great. I thought it might be possible to 'deadlock' these bowleys in this way. It surely would be easy for an attacker to do and would suck to have to fix in the field. Do you think its possible to use this technique you've shown when the mortice is in its housing bezel on a door?
Genius.....do you think it could bump open with that technique? Can’t wait to see you pick it I know you will very soon. You are an amazing picker very inventive you think outside the box I like that. You are definitely someone to keep an eye on. I predict you will be the top you tube picker very soon
LOCKPICKING HEAVEN’S GATE Thanks man, I’ve tried to get the 543 open like that, not happening, the springs are so short and strong I don’t think it’s possible. That’s why so much force and such a big whack was needed. As for the mortice, yes I got it open like that, but I want to mount it to see if it can be done in a door. Not doing a vid for that since I was hitting the top of the spring chambers, something not possible to do while being used as intended.
What I take away from this (helpful and well-presented) video is that you can brick any Bowley lock you see in the wild with a piece of wire, and that the official answer is to mail the company back the very large and strong padlock which is *currently locked to your door*. The alternative you present would be a great relief in that circumstance, but does the rapping work as well on the mortice cylinder when it's installed in a door?
bashful I hadn’t thought of malicious intent, very good point. Hopefully this is not the only lock to your house and you have another way in, and you can disassemble it from the door to reset it. I have yet to test the mortice lock installed, this is my next project and should have results this weekend. Thanks
Thanks for tip on reset idler ring -- was wondering about that potential design problem -- HOWEVER I already gutted my 543 in the unlocked position and had a handful of springs & pins (I felt like Bosnian Bill + I never got the tip from LPL!). I found 1 spool and 1 serrated , so now I know exactly what chambers they were in; serrated in 2 and spool in 3 on the 5 pin side. The problem for the un-initiated is that there is nothing holding the core to the idler ring and plug except pins in the locked position (except, of course when the lock is assembled this can't happen), so it can literally "fall apart in your hands" if you have the key in place {as I unfortunately already know} -- Oops! -- Plus watch out for those tiny, tiny springs getting "Lost" -- Seems the only way to gut and re-assemble (and factory assemble) is to remove / install the retainer plates as Priyer has graciously show us -- guess I should have waited!!!!!
I thought I'd mention that when I decided where the serrated pin and spool pin went (before observing Priyer's disassembly), I put them in the chambers with the shortest key pin so they would be effective -- this also somewhat balanced the pin stack for the most consistent spring pressure, however since all the drivers were of the same height, this was a mute point anyway.
They actually should sell the tool for people who don't have access to parts and stuff, because their locked bowley padlock on their shed might get bricked by someone attempting to pick it
On another note, I think the shackle is to small in diameter to be considered as a serious "High Security" Padlock. I fully understand Bowley's position in that it may be more useful in the real world with a reasonable size (diameter) Shackle {and thus lead to profitable sales}, but it looks quite out of proportion with that "WIMPY" Shackle -- say as compared to an ABUS 83/80 Rock, for example.
Don'z Lockz it’s not supposed to happen, the idler usually stays where it is, but it has happened that someone tried to pick it and the tensioner broke, so the idler was turned. I don’t see it happening with normal use, but curious people do curious things sometimes and someone might stick something in the lock to turn the idler just to see what happens.
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Wow, Interesting.. I've been wondering forever now if this was possible.. (for the pins to drip into the Idler)Your the first person I've found talking about this.. Thanks buddy!
Rookie Lock it happened to at least 1 person that I know of, so there’s probably more out there. Hopefully there will be less paperweights out there now 😆
Very awesome info & job buddy.
Bearsback missed this one, lol
Thanks for watching sir.
I need to get myself a hammer like that. It not only opens Forever locks but fixes Bowleys 😁
Tipene Nga Puhi I’m in love with that thing now. 😂
My new favourite pick.
I'll second the motion from Tipene. Thanks for the tip on the "broken" ones!
Nicely done.. If I ever reach a point of Bowley ownership I will remember this. Thanks for the demo!!
Great video and information. Absolutely beautiful lock 😍👍🤘🖖🍻
Dark Arts Lock Picking Thank you sir, thanks for watching
Fantastic advice my friend & a really great video. They are amazing locks, Have a great week.😎👍
daz evers Thank you sir, thanks for watching. 😊
Awesome locks, well done end explained 😉 Bravo 👏
SasPes Thank you sir
Awesome video my friend really interesting👍😊👍😊😎👌
Dam autocorrect 😂
Thanks mate.
@@Priyer sorted it😂😂😂😂
Cool lock, great info too my friend
lockmania Thanks for watching.
Sorry, I meant to mention you also in my giveaway vid, I forgot. Thanks for the support.
@@Priyer it is ok my friend, it does not matter if you mention me or not as Long as you are happy with your video i am too
You should put that you're resetting the ring in the title so that when people search in the future they find your video
other side I’ll add the tag, thanks for the idea.
This is great. I thought it might be possible to 'deadlock' these bowleys in this way. It surely would be easy for an attacker to do and would suck to have to fix in the field. Do you think its possible to use this technique you've shown when the mortice is in its housing bezel on a door?
Genius.....do you think it could bump open with that technique? Can’t wait to see you pick it I know you will very soon. You are an amazing picker very inventive you think outside the box I like that. You are definitely someone to keep an eye on. I predict you will be the top you tube picker very soon
LOCKPICKING HEAVEN’S GATE Thanks man, I’ve tried to get the 543 open like that, not happening, the springs are so short and strong I don’t think it’s possible. That’s why so much force and such a big whack was needed. As for the mortice, yes I got it open like that, but I want to mount it to see if it can be done in a door. Not doing a vid for that since I was hitting the top of the spring chambers, something not possible to do while being used as intended.
Priyer you are very inventive I enjoy your videos
Thanks Priyer! great advice..
Great Video Pryer.
Cool locks & nice tip.
William Mancel Thank you sir, thanks for watching
What I take away from this (helpful and well-presented) video is that you can brick any Bowley lock you see in the wild with a piece of wire, and that the official answer is to mail the company back the very large and strong padlock which is *currently locked to your door*. The alternative you present would be a great relief in that circumstance, but does the rapping work as well on the mortice cylinder when it's installed in a door?
bashful I hadn’t thought of malicious intent, very good point. Hopefully this is not the only lock to your house and you have another way in, and you can disassemble it from the door to reset it.
I have yet to test the mortice lock installed, this is my next project and should have results this weekend.
Thanks
Thanks for tip on reset idler ring -- was wondering about that potential design problem -- HOWEVER I already gutted my 543 in the unlocked position and had a handful of springs & pins (I felt like Bosnian Bill + I never got the tip from LPL!). I found 1 spool and 1 serrated , so now I know exactly what chambers they were in; serrated in 2 and spool in 3 on the 5 pin side. The problem for the un-initiated is that there is nothing holding the core to the idler ring and plug except pins in the locked position (except, of course when the lock is assembled this can't happen), so it can literally "fall apart in your hands" if you have the key in place {as I unfortunately already know} -- Oops! -- Plus watch out for those tiny, tiny springs getting "Lost" -- Seems the only way to gut and re-assemble (and factory assemble) is to remove / install the retainer plates as Priyer has graciously show us -- guess I should have waited!!!!!
I thought I'd mention that when I decided where the serrated pin and spool pin went (before observing Priyer's disassembly), I put them in the chambers with the shortest key pin so they would be effective -- this also somewhat balanced the pin stack for the most consistent spring pressure, however since all the drivers were of the same height, this was a mute point anyway.
They actually should sell the tool for people who don't have access to parts and stuff, because their locked bowley padlock on their shed might get bricked by someone attempting to pick it
On another note, I think the shackle is to small in diameter to be considered as a serious "High Security" Padlock. I fully understand Bowley's position in that it may be more useful in the real world with a reasonable size (diameter) Shackle {and thus lead to profitable sales}, but it looks quite out of proportion with that "WIMPY" Shackle -- say as compared to an ABUS 83/80 Rock, for example.
Some pretty cool, beefy locks, neat quick fix tool for those that own one and may run into this problem.
Many thanks for the sub my friend. Cheers✌🐵🍺
Great info! Now i just need to save up for the next year to get one or the other...
Well Done! Still looking at adding that lock!!! Have to make room lol!!
Id be too scared to whack that padlock with a hammer, lol. Great tip but im wondering why this happens and it it could be designed better somehow. 🍺😎
Don'z Lockz it’s not supposed to happen, the idler usually stays where it is, but it has happened that someone tried to pick it and the tensioner broke, so the idler was turned. I don’t see it happening with normal use, but curious people do curious things sometimes and someone might stick something in the lock to turn the idler just to see what happens.