Make Iron (III) Oxide
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- Опубліковано 22 сер 2024
- A simple, hands-free, effective process for making iron (III) oxide in bulk for thermite, rocketry, pigments, or anything else.
So far, I have completed this process three times and made over 250g of finely powdered iron (III) oxide, better known as rust. I have also confirmed that it works in thermite.
I also did a post on my blog, so check that out for more science experiments and other interesting projects.
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i died at that part about using the cookie sheet xP
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Mix 2 parts iron oxide, 8 parts sugar and 9 parts saltpeter (KNO3) and you have a black powder substitute for muzzleloading guns.
You mean KNO3
@@low-keyforce7204 Yes, my mistake. Thanks for pointing that up.
@@chapiit08 I'm amazed you answered so fast at a 1 year old comment !
@@low-keyforce7204 So am I that you answered so fast to my reply to your comment to a one year old post of mine! Lol!
@@chapiit08 so am I that you replied to my reply to your comment to my reply to a one year old post.lol
The iron oxide is insoluble, and you added salt. It should be shaken with distilled water, filtered, shaken again, filtered and shaken again and filtered. Then dried, this will give you 99% iron oxide. The iron you started with was actually steel, with a little alloying metal/carbon. This will also settle and be in the filtered result, and will act as an inert diluent.
Start with 100% pure iron for best yield - pure iron is hard to find as it is almost always alloyed.
I'd say almost nobody has pure iron lying around so you'd have to buy it and it's actually more expensive than just buying Iron(III)oxide. For thermite it's enough just washing it using much water to get rid of the salt and drying/heating it to convert the hydroxides .
Use mild steel it has very little carbon.
@@AS-ug2vq Yes, starting with an iron source with less alloying components will improve the purity. You could also use AC power and that would erode both spikes at the same rate, as all you want is the oxide and you are not plating. Since it is insoluble, a number of washes + filtering stages will eliminate the residual salt. Tap water is OK, as you do nor need absolute purity, distilled is technically the best. The iron oxide can be dried and sieved to create the finest possible material for thermite manufacture.
@@xuNsh1ne Cast Iron has some silicon and a lot of carbon but usually no alloying agents. If you look, you can find tremendous quantities. I have a couple of tons.
Wonderful and useful technical information. Thanks for your efforts taken to share with all from Jawaharlal Bharat 🙏
lol, railroad spikes, easy to find..... maybe in ONE continent....
TheChipmunk2008 Europe, Japan....
America!
Most places in the world, folks clean up their shit when they’ve finished a job. Meanwhile in ‘murrica ...
@@WineScrounger you haven't traveled much have you.
I live by a train track. Plenty laying around
Shouldn't you rinse and filter 2 or 3 times to remove the salt residue?
Yeah, I was wondering the same thing.
Wow that sure created a lot of iron oxide. Interesting method. Thanks for sharing.
sure created a roughly 1:1 mix of Iron oxide : NaCl lol, never forget to decant the solution to get the NaCl away
Is this the same Gamma Iron Oxide used in magnetic tape?
I've been thinking about attempting to make very crude magnetic tape at home and seeing if I can store very simple media on it, like simple (and probably very garbled) audio.
Iron 3 oxide isnt the same as magnetic iron. Look up "magnetite" and you'll find what u need
One of the best videos I have ever seen on youtube ! Do you know of a way to mill and get various differing particle sizes by any chance ??? I need a particular particle size but at this stage I'm not sure what that size might be, so it's gonna be trial and error. Thanks Pluto Bunny, you're awesome and I subbed your channel !!!
KP media with a ball mill its really difficult to control particle size, so generally what you would do is remove the material and sift it regularly through the appropriate mesh.
Wile i was watching the video an advertize banner for feta had poped in. no joke!
Use opera browser to avoid pop ups.
feta, why not? especially with a gyros pita... now i'm hungry! life is hard!
am happy to know how to make this so I can try my head on making homemade Cassette tape
Wow this is much better than trying this with hydrogen peroxide
Great project. Could the rust powder be made into some form of paint that would re-rust when exposed to air and water?
Falu Red... Linseed oil, rye flour, zinc sulfate (moss-killer) and it makes a great paint for rough-cut lumber. They charge $16-$50 per pound for the pigment, which is essentially what you see in this video.
Isnt iron 3 oxide supposed to be black, ferric oxide?
legend goes that bush baked all the 9/11 with barbara in their kithchen
Touch both spikes at the same time
Lol
Byron Brown TA DA light em up
im getting green to black stuff lots of it mixed with rust on the buttom why and is this affects the rust
Green is from the coating on the nails, sand them or let the coated ones run to get all the coating off, empty and do it again after cleaning
yeah that sounds like you could have a little copper in the nails or possibly A.N. other contaminant of some sort
I was trying this out and stirred the water with a bronze rod; and my solution turned blue!
I know it turned blue because the copper...
... My question is what will this do to my rocket fuel mixture?
or more specifically what happens to the Iron Oxide? and will it catch fire when it dries?
Your iron oxide won't catch fire when it dries. :)
The copper may help rocket fuel mixtures - I have heard of small amounts of metals (like iron) being helpful as catalysts to increase burn rate. More research is probably wise though.
@@joshuadunbar9022 The iron oxide help burn rate because it gives 3 oxygen to the mixture (Fe2O3), but that's all I know.
... but cool thanks for the quick response, it's drying right now. I was a little worried it would go off like some kind of thermite.
I'm still curious what the copper will do to the mixture chemically?
i did this and came back to it but the solution had not turned to that sludge stuff that you got do you why this is?
more power. you should see lots of bubble form with power on
I don’t have any power sources that will work. Where can I get one?
Any old motherboard PSU should be fine.
That psu looks like a fucking bomb
Dear it's magnet free??
Is That Red Rust?
I ever made Cu2O from electrolysis of Cu with NaCl
can you use a extension cord striped into two sections(120v)
I used to buy rox at a foundry supply for less than 50 cents a pound for 50 lb sacks,this might be an option for some people
Does this make chlorine gas?
Does it have to be twelve volts?
Will nine work?
Nine volts should work - it will just go a bit slower based on Ohms Law.
okay first of all you're doing it wrong you need to strip all of the wires to the power supply and tie all of the red together all of the yellow together all of the orange together excetera excetera excetera. they will all be different voltages the red one I believe is 12 volts although I can't really remember for sure you can easily check that. this will allow a lot more amperage for this electrolysis period it's very easy to do it takes literally minutes
Pls what are the various uses
can you please make a battery with this?
(step 2)for the other metal use nickel and then react it with HCL
and then after you have nickel chloride please add NAOH to it to make nickel hydroxide
and then use both of these materials for the battery with KOH as electrolyte
and before you can use it please charge it.
thank you very much for making this video
important tip:
you can make nickel powder from a nickel coin and sandpaper
but then the sandpaper particle will be mix with the nickel powder
to overcome this use a magnet and then you will only get the fine nickel powder
once you have the nickel poder you can procceed with (step 2)
Is it used in flooring
so any power supply will do? can i use a car battery. legitimate question
Correct, as long as you have a reasonable amount of voltage (5V or more, probably), it will work. A car battery will work, just make sure you don't short it out.
@@ThePlutoniumBunny Thanks, I'll try not to lol
How much power you used
why not use baking soda as electrolysis instead?
I believe the chloride ion plays in important role in the corrosion of the steel to make rust - the bicarbonate ion isn't nearly as corrosive.
can we make ferrofluid from it???
For some reason it is typical to use magnetite (Fe3O4) for ferrofluid, but I'm sure you could try with this, as it should be magnetic. Let us know how it goes!
Less cost, but good bro
Are the fumes toxic?
If you use salt then yes. It forms Cl2 (Chlorine gas)
@@fishywishyfishfisk can u explain
Nice video, how can I make, Granular Ferric Oxide, thanks
This could be a source for manganese! Isn't it?
I actually made a video on that! It's a quite impressive fireball.
ua-cam.com/video/BCmTzZa6ncY/v-deo.html
This is a bit too much effort when you can do it with steel wool. I can even source iron oxide from junkyards. I know a lot of people who have cars sitting around with rusted parts and they don't mind letting those go.
What are the main uses of iorn oxyde
help i am trying electrolysis to make red iron oxide but it comes out blown to black ? any help ?
Color doesn't matter that much. Maybe you made black iron oxide, which is slightly more valuable for some reason.
Same thing happens to me
I let my solution dry wihout using an oven and it stayed black instead of turning red, even after grinding. Is it still usable or have I produced something else here?
It is still iron oxide most likely, so it may be useable. However the oven drying step is good for adding heat, which drives off any moisture and also helps the product get to a relatively known composition. Your product is probably worth trying in whatever end use you intend.
@@ThePlutoniumBunny wow thanks for the quick answer!
Ok cool to know it wasn't all for nothing, I'm just gonna put it in the oven now to get rid of all the water like you suggested. Thanks!
i have a question if you mix this iron oxide with sugar and charcoal powder will it make gun powder because it is a oxidizer and i cant get any potassium nitrate right now
Claytons Science no it won’t work at all
You say u usually use rr ties….do u do this often…. Sad
Hey can you drop gold with iron oxide that you made
What do you mean?
Is that fe2o3 or feo
What is the power source box you used?
Thank you, best video.
Could I use a mortar and pestle to crush it
Brilliant
can this be used to recover gold?
Fe2O3 ferric oxide or iron three chloride
did you like the FETA?
@Whoop!
nice job
Use a battery charger
Why?
for my power supply i can use -a wall adapter:6v DC ,another wall adapter 9v ac, or 9volt batteries which one should i use and with using salt as an electrolyte you have to remove the salt from the red iron oxide afterwards,do you have to remove anything with baking soda? and if i use baking soda can i do this inside? Ive heard it doesn't produce chlorine gas.
I'd go with the 6VDC wall adapter. 9V batteries don't provide much current. You just remove the salt by filtering, as shown in the video. Baking soda won't work as well, if at all - the chlorine generated provides a very corrosive environment. Good luck!
thank you very much your the first person to respond, i left a comment on every persons video on making red iron oxide on youtube! much appreciated. once again thank you very much!
which wire is the negative and positive on my adapter 1 wire has some sort of dotted line on it though. and for the negative electrode would something like a carbon rod be more efficient than just using another piece of steel? and to get rid of the salt more on the rust could i just keep adding water to dissolve most of the salt on the rust and letting it drain through the filter, because if you only do it once there could be still some salt on the rust when you bake it.
1 more thing can this be performed out side in the cold in my shed(i live in canada) xD
what type of salt can i use just regular iodized salt or can i use sea salt?
Could I decant the sodium and grind for paint pigment? Any ideas on how to alter the shade of iron oxide, lighter or darker? Thank you for the information.
Yeah! If you dry the black sludge without heat, it dries to a blackish-green, so you could mix that with the red stuff to create darker shades. Mixing in other oxides, like aluminum oxide, would make the color lighter. This stuff would definitely work as a pigment.
The Plutonium Bunny
Thank you.
Good video
A look at a NurdRage (ua-cam.com/video/RiF73l4PjyY/v-deo.html) thermite video shows that he has a disparity in the size of the two powdered components. While it still works, fine sieved powders are best. The iron oxide as formed electrochemically is very fine after washing, it does need the caking as it dries to be broken up, a mortar and pestle + fine screening is best. Aluminum filings are sub-optimal. Best aluminum powder is bought from paint making supply houses where it is used to make aluminum paint. Fine aluminum powder can spontaneously ignite, so it has a fine film of a waxen coating to prevent this - which will not interfere with thermite making. You can mix the thermite powder safely using the dry powders, and the use of the fine aluminum powder for paint makes a very good product. You can also add a little binder in the form of fine gum arabic(1%) and press into shapes for welding railway tracks etc. Made with the powder it readily ignites with magnesium ribbon or even sparklers as the fine powdery state of both parts initiate easily due to the fineness.
@جلال جلال I do not think so. It would thermally decomp[ose into gasses.
Would a 12-volt lantern battery work or would it melt ?
Yes. It would work, although it would likely be slower than using a power supply. I would recommend carefully monitoring the temperature to ensure things didn't get out of hand; even in this setup with the ATX PSU, the electrolysis cell got quite warm.
Can other salts apart from sodium chloride be used? I wanna use Magnesium chloride as an electrolyte but I'm not sure.. :/
I am not sure - I think so, but I have not tested this. I believe the chloride ion is a big part of the corrosion to the iron that makes the oxide, so magnesium chloride definitely might work.
@@ThePlutoniumBunny thank you
Why would you? Sodium chloride is so cheap.
Thanks sir make the argentum metilicum powder
instead try to make those from sand directly
you could do the resistance heating melting, then hot molten electrolysis to get iron, silicon, aluminium and Ca/K
how about a metal can mill?
barbara bush baked this stuff for the towers.
Happy new year!
Wut du fuc dose that have 2 do with the video
Can I use electricity with output of 48V ??
Try with iron nails and see :)
But it is better to find any 12V DC power supply/adapter.
what happens if you put more salt
Salt used as electrolide. It makes process faster. But if you put too much it will contaminated result product.
+omerspahic kakanjI just did it, put 1/2 table spoon salt in 120 ml (about half a cup) of tap water in a small jar. duckduckgo.com/?q=small+jar+150+ml&iar=images&iax=images&ia=images
I think first thing that happen was that salt crystalized at the bottom
See something like jelly that was stuck to + side then kept sliding down and falling to the bottom. Then at the bottom it formed 1/4 (30 ml) of the cup of that white matter. You know it ain't iron cause iron is black or dark gray and with rust it is either orange or brown
Then something orangish kept forming on the top.
Earlier I did 170 ml tap water with 1 tea spoon, it went fine and black matter went to the bottom while brown/orange matter stayed on top. Eventually they mix together and drown to the bottom. all I could see was dark gray/black.
For this I used 6 iron nails, and tied each 3 with bare(no insulation) wire, made 3 turns around each one and left a little extra to connect to.
Then I used a Bench/Variable Power Supply like this one and connected one clamp to each side.
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I went to 12 volts and 3 amps. Sadly it is just like the guy said, one of the clamps (-) melted and the wires got disconnected.
so I stripped it and wound it around the clamp again and stayed at 1 ~ 1.5 amps with 12 volts.
Max drawing voltage was 6 ~ 7.5 volts at that last amperage.
I guess this means if you use a 5v 1a power supply like Mobile one it'd work(in the nails case not what that guy used).
The white goo is an Iron Hydroxide with a soap-like consistency and super-fine Hydrogen bubbles. The near-black goo is Iron (II, III) Oxide (Fe3O4). You might also get a deep green/blue sludge as well. This is another Hydroxide.
Mix a little of the white or green/blue goo with Hydrogen Peroxide, and it foams and rapidly turns rust red (proof it is holding some Iron). If you have a large quantity of Hydroxides, you're using too much current. Either use less salt or a lower voltage. There is no discernible time difference with higher current, but it does generate a lot more heat which reduces your water level faster (evaporation).
Heat the white, green/blue and black goo together. I've put the foam and crust into a 2 liter bottle and then shaken vigorously. This liberates much of the Hydrogen quickly (try a flame at the mouth of the bottle and you'll get a fun pop). The hydroxides will break down to oxides, and most of the oxides at this point will react with the Oxygen in the oven (accelerated by the heat) to create Fe2O3.
Once you have Fe2O3, put it in a bucket and perform a couple of cycles of flood/settle/drain to remove as much of the salt as possible and then dry again. It is unlikely that the salt will interfere with most reactions, but will have an impact on proper measurements for optimum and reliable mixtures.
I tryed this i fucked up sooooooo bad
He could have added some mozzarella....
If You connect the negative wire to the Iron Wont it produce Iron acid?
Muscle Mantis yes yes it will okay wait a minute no it won't lol. there is no God damn such thing ae iron acid what the hell you talking about
What about ferric chloride? You're running electricity through salt water.
The electricity can cause iron to replace the sodium metal and that will create various iron chlorides and sodium hydroxide. But as soon as the electricity is turned of, the sodium chloride is going to replace the iron and create sodium chloride and various iron hydroxides and oxides.
Cool... I didn't know that, about the switch when the power goes off. So... If you were to pour it off while power is on would it be Naoh that I would recover? I ask bc I'm looking for lye sources besides hardware store and the membrane cell
Dude, did you eat that whole bucket of ice cream?
You can do things with this :) interesting stuff, like AM radio ferrite core :]
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Loop_antenna#Ferrite ua-cam.com/video/VgwGG5TxDhk/v-deo.html
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ferrite_%28magnet%29#Uses
sci-toys.com/scitoys/scitoys/radio/radio.html www.instructables.com/id/Make-your-own-Ferrite-to-improve-magnetic-fields/
I ment the quincidense of seen the feta wile you where using a container from feta cheese!
I did this Whit 7,5 volts
I'm making mine a lot different
Thish chemical I want
Man up a little buddy. lol Anyway... is powdered rust dangerous in it's dusty state? I was thinking i could just go knock off a few chunks of rust from an old dump truck, or something, & throw them in a steel ball mill for a day or so. the trouble is, steel balls can spark when they knock against each other. Lead, & glass balls are not as hard as the rust chunks, so this is why i asked. :)
Just don't do lines with it and you are good.
Is there a way to reverse the process to form Iron? Using the Iron Oxide, Hydrogen and/or a catalyst?
Yes, there are multiple methods of reducing iron oxide to iron metal. I show the thermite reaction, which produces molten iron, in another video. Reduction with hydrogen, carbon monoxide, or carbon is also possible at high temperatures. That is how they get iron from iron ore industrially.
Sweet! I half knew something! Thank you!
@@ThePlutoniumBunny pls direct me on how to convert iron oxide to a molten iron. Thanks
@@safreedinternational6461 ua-cam.com/video/D2q7new2jko/v-deo.html
Pls what is that white powder?
sodium chloride
cocaine
0:28 regular salt = NaCl
Pure Yeet
Just normal table salt. Nothing Special :)
anyone know if i can use 120 volts
DJ Miles id say no
of course not... I guess you want to use mains voltage which is AC but you need DC.
Don't know the resistance of the saltwater but I guess it's low so a very high current could flow so either your fuse would blow or a very high current would flow which would cause the anode also producing toxic chlorine gas. And ofc 12V DC aren't really dangerous at all while 120V AC could kill you.
Try a car battery but unplug it the RED cable from the car first and use clamps.
Car batteries are around 12 volts DC
But use in something small like a cup or small jar, so it is quicker and does not discharge a lot from the battery
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its a fe2o3?
Yes
"Iron(III) oxide or ferric oxide is the inorganic compound with the formula Fe2O3"
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iron%28III%29_oxide
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Please use metric
i dont doubt yourr chemistry but you can't tell me water isn't a good conductor. i would not stand in a puddle with a live wire in it or another example Turning on light switches with wet hands or geting in the bath with a plugged in radio ETC its 101 water and electricity bad combination unless its used in Chemistry ...
Hello W Winterheart.
you know its funny i found out that the impurities in the water in tap water are what make it more conductive. The saturated salt solution creates a much better pathway for the electricity to travel. Can you elaborate for me why salt has ths affect in water? Thanks for your feed back
kieran johnston not trying to be rude or a smartass but try watching mythbusters on Discovery Channel USA they do different things like this to and they're pretty scientific too
kieran johnston yeah.. but a puddle has all sorts of shit dissolved in it. So does water on concrete, water touching your skin, water in soil, water anywhere in the wild really.
please use metric.
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