Incredible Hidden Details in Dune: Part 2
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- Опубліковано 22 тра 2024
- Here goes my 20 incredible details from Dune: Part 2. Lemme know your favorite detail from the movie. My favorite? Detail #20.
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1:14 The hooks are actually used to grab the sandworm's scales, not its mouth. By pulling up a scale the rider exposes the vulnerable tissue underneath, making the worm turn itself to keep the exposed tissue free of the sand. By pulling up scales located in different areas, you can choose which way it leans and thus steer the worm.
That is what I was gonna say, I am glad I found it here first
Part of me wonders if he got this wrong intentionally to lure us Dune nerds into making more comments@@coreyallen958
Ohhh I understand it now! Really admirable that they put this much detail there
True. All from the book, too. @@the_fifth_letter
This is one minor change Denis did from the book.
In the movie, the rider need to jump on top of sandworm, therefore starting from the higher ground.
In the book, the rider latch the scale from the side, and the worm will twist away pulling the rider toward the top.
More details:
1. Feyd said the same line in the arena and when he got killed by paul
2. The necklace Baron gave to Rabban represents the two moons of Arrakis
That’s such a cool detail about the necklace!
Yes, I didn't get the symbol that kept popping up until we saw the two moons of Arrakis in front of the sun creating the exact same shape.
I love this channel's conmment section, everyone just want to contribute for the good, no toxication, no trashing anybody comment. 100% respect.
It's an admirable fact that Canadian Lad is now exploring other movie genres too
U mean doing what is necessary to keep a channel?
@@TechTokOffical womp womp
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Essential give how bad marvel has been recently
Because there are no more Marvel movies?
I think its not continuity error, the two war is different. The first one is the fremen vs harkonnen soldier. the second one uses the new flag with the black background is the holy war yet to come.
Yep that's exactly what it might be. He's not done research on this one I think.
Or its a small detail which explains the different betqween Paul's visions and reality. Reality may or may not happen exactly like his visions. An examble is his visions about Jamis.
@@HeraldFromHell a good theory, but it has been seen that Jihads (even in real life) use flags with black backgrounds. The Fedaykins shown with the black banner are Muad'dib's elite fighters who were spearheaded the jihad, conquering a bunch of planets under his name. (Wiping out atleast 40 religions)
exactly what im trying to say@@cocakoala97
Jihaaaaaad
Watching it in IMAX was the best experience of my life after interstellar
LMAO, that's a joke, right?
no IMAX theatres near me :(
YES. i was too young to see Interstellar in theater, but I could just imagine how amazing that would be. My fav movie of all time. I'm definitely watching it when it rereleases this November.
I have to agree, Dune 2 was a once-in-a-decade movie experience.
I watched it in 4D IMAX...
@@JonO387just shows that special effects are all people care about now.
Also, the first movie begins with Chani's narration, and this one with Princess Irulan's, foreshadowing their significance in the following movies (for Chani - Dune Part 2, for Irulan - Dune Messiah).
what significance does irulan have in dune messiah?
Plots within plots. They kept the Bene Gessrit more low-key this time around compared to before...where even the mini-series honestly made them overdramatic. Irulan is deeply part of the machinations in Dune Messiah, working with several interests including the Bene Gessrit.
The flags being mismatched is not a continuity error. The Atredies flag with black background will probably be the banner for the Jihad or holy war that might be covered in the next film.
It’s probably a hint that Paul’s visions can also turn out in a slightly different way than he sees. As with his visions in part one where he is fighting the holy war . The fight of his vision is mirrored in part two where it actually happens, but instead of Paul fighting it’s Shani. So much great stuff in these movies…
@@buzima5550I agree with yours and came here to say just that. Paul’s visions were never 100% accurate until he drank the blue juice. This same vision shows Chani by his side but doesn’t look like that’s likely anymore.
He's not just seeing things differently, he is actively trying to avoid some of the paths he has seen. He can't change too much or they'll reject him and use his name without him, but he can change some of his symbolism and change how the victors feel about the war, and how his warriors will treat his subjects aftreward.
Plus he fights in golden armies in his vision, we are yet to see this
1:50 I read somewhere that in this scene Cinematographer Greig Fraser used Infrared cameras to film it.
What a marvelous work , eh?
Probably the best experience I have had in a cinema in my entire life, wonderful in special effects, direction, music, production design, sound design, a very good lore, script, one of the best presentations of a villain in recent times years, all the characters have very good performances, great writing for the Protagonist, and Greig Fraser achieves the best cinematography I have ever seen in my life
Great video Mr. Lad, I hope that in the future you make more videos of other Science Fiction movies with great audiovisual quality such as Blade Runner, Star Wars or Avatar, I think it would be very interesting
I have to watch twice. I can watch it couple of more time
I hope that you are either very young or havnt seen many films in a cinema before.
Would like to have seen Feyd be built up to be more of a villain that should be feared, but that may not be consistent with the books
The flag isnt a continuity error, it's part of how Paul's vision works. In the same vision we see Jamis along with Paul and Chani in the ship, meaning Jamis survived and became Paul's follower in that vision. This means Paul see's different timelines and futures simultaneously (like he's stated multiple times already). So in that future the followers of Paul used a green flag, but in the timeline he chose, the followers used a white/brown flag with green croppings and the atreides symbol on top.
I think the idea is that pauls ability allows him to see multiple futures based on the choices he makes. The first scene with the flag is just a possible future in his visions and not a continuity error.
This I agree with. I realise that the visions from the first movie were essentially a possible future but there have been changes made due to Paul’s actions. He has seen possible futures and he’s made the choice where he doesn’t exactly fail, thus changing certain aspects of the fights different.
I mean, we shouldn’t forget it was Paul in the final battle vision during Dune 1 but we saw Chani in the final battle following the exact same camera framing in Dune 2 instead.
Another not-so hidden detail is, how the soundtrack is god damn spectacular.
That scene when Paul arrives to the south was burnt into my mind just because of the soundtrack alone.
Another amazing detail on Giedi Prime is that even during the day scenes interiors are lit in colour
There is one shot where a character walks from the lit interior to the „Sunlit“ outside and the colour litterally drains from the image
Paul isn't able to see the future, the spice allows him to see what will possibly happen because the capabilities of his mind are incredibly increased, so I wouldn't consider any difference a continuity error, I would say it was a slight miscalculation Paul did.
yes he can see the multiple possibilities, its way more powerful than simply looking at future
Yeah, just like how Shamis gives him advice several times, even though he was killed by him at the end of Part 1.
Yeah, they simplified that for the movie. Paul wasn't sure, going into the fight with Feyd-Rautha, that he'd win. Another thing they changed/left out was that some Bene Gesserit who drank the Water of Life *weren't* able to nullify the poison, and they died. The movie sort of takes it for granted that Jessica will life.
Ah.. this is a wonderful point... I actually love that approach so many times better then describing it as a seeing the future or having visions. He is a mentat with an incredibly good genetic heritage and in constant contact with spice while on Arrakis so his ability to analyse things is superhuman. This is so much better then presenting him as a seer.
The Maker hooks grab the seperate plates/scales of the worm not the mouth, as you see he pulls up the plate and the worm rotates so the exposed part is away from the irritating sand so the rider can get on top and use the hooks to direct them. Small nitpick but I love this part of the book and now the film. I loved the Fedaykin burning the Sardaukar/Harkonnen at the end, not bothered about their water just brutal revenge.
Also in the book Chani's blue headband means shes a mother aswell.
3rd edit, Good catch with Pauls skin colour change after drinking the w.o.l.👌🏾
Long live the fighters ⚔✊🏽⚔
Agreed, this is not correctly explained in the video
The black cape idea is exactly like Return of the Jedi. In ROTS, Luke wore black dress, which made everyone believe that he is going down a dark path. But at the end it was revealed that he is still good inside. With a white piece of clothing underneath the black dress. Same for Paul. He is transitioning to a cruel leader. The subtle change starts from now. The black clothing and I hope he will wear more black by the end of the 3rd movie.
I don’t think it’s necessarily about him turning cruel-it’s more of a way for him to stand out amongst all of the muted sand colors. I think it’s kind of like a mantle he takes on as the Kwisatz Haderach. He is no longer just one of the fremen or like any other person. The costume change can also be said to reflect some growing darkness within him perhaps-I suppose it doesn’t need to have one meaning.
I thought it was obvious that she was about to ride a sandworm right before she died
Only to those who read the books.
I thought he would use the scene to point out Dr. Kynes was Chani's mother
@@ValWillKay I never read the books and it was clear as day, i mean why else set up a thumper?
Agreed.
@@ValWillKay Nah, reading the books does not give you powers. It was completely obvious.
Lol everybody in our theater laughed whenever Stilgar called Paul as Lisan-al-Gaib,it was so funny 😂
Same here, including me 😂
1) the hooks are not reaching the mouth, but the plates of a worm and expose flesh below the plate which makes a worm turn this side away from the sand
2) I think reverend mothers from Arrakis are not part of Bene Gesserit, so it would not be divided
You're right. The original Reverend Mothers were trained by the Bene Gesserit as a way of controlling their culture, but they are not members of the organization.
02:00 uhm, did you intend to put a fireworks clip here instead of the lady looking through the binoculars?
yep, this make no sens...
I don't blame him, Léa Seydoux is quite mesmerizing as Margot Fenring
I liked the moment when Vladimir seemingly tried to climb up the stairs to the empty throne. As an expression of how much he wanted that power up there. :-)
You can see when Paul arrives at the throne room that he and Feyd share a glance at each other. Paul knew he has to kill him so I think it made him reassured that the plan is going well.
Also something I noticed on second watch: Stilgar pretends to be totally falling for the messiah stuff but he’s actually just as manipulative as Jessica. He basically forces Jessica to become a reverand mother to conform to the prophecy, threatening to kill her if she doesn’t. He confronts Paul when Paul denies his messianic status. He convinces other Fremen that even Paul denying he’s the Maddhi is proof that he is. He tries to find meaning in the the Mud’Hib name which Paul chose because of how harmless it is.
And this is the best one: he tells everyone that Paul rode the biggest worm ever seen as was foretold, … but he also tells Paul that HE tuned the thumper himself. And exclaims “not THAT big” when the worm shows up. So he probably overtuned the thumper because he wanted to attract an unusually large worm so Paul would fit the prophecy, and just overshot it a bit and got an unsafely large one.
I don’t know if Stilgar truly believed in the prophecy, but I definitely think he manipulated the situation to force the prophecy into coming true because he believed it would be best for his people.
I also noticed that the moves Chani uses to take down the Harkonnens/Sardukar when they are storming the emperor’s floaty sphere thingy are the same as the ones Paul uses in his vision of the Holy War during the first movie.
Someone on Quin's ideas video also brought up that the undrugged fighter was an officer whi had quite a bit of scren time in the first film, nice touch
My favorite "hidden detail" is the way they honor the book with the Baron's death even while altering it. In the book, it is Alia that kills the Baron with the "Atreides Gom Jabbar." Well, obviously in the film they couldn't use Alia since they compressed the timelines, but when Paul kills the Baron, he slowly slides his Crysknife into the Baron's neck, where Rev. Mother Mohaim held the Gom Jabbar to Paul's neck (and Lady Fenring to Feyd's in Part 2) while commenting that he "dies like an animal" again referencing the Gom Jabbar.
Also, Paul taking Feyd's blade so that he can make the killing blow can be seen as Paul's willingness to sacrifice his own well being in pursuit of the greater good. It show's that Paul is willing to sacrifice himself upon the alters of history to provide a better future for humanity.
Awesome work.
I could also add that indeed , his whole demeanor changes after drinking the water of life and unlocking all his potential, he's much more aggressive and resort much more to fear than respect in his interactions with others (when he addresses the whole Fremen army, and especially the skeptical man, which he lists all this thoughts in front of everyone, to instill fear as much as adoration ; the way he SILENCE'd the Mother reverent ; and the way he belittled the Emperor himself, dangling the threat of unveiling the Emperor treason of House Atreides to all the other great houses). You can tell he's already becoming a manipulative tyrant at that point.
1:09 Not mouth but scales, DV mentioned that the scales have breathing structures underneath
In the book, the Atreides soldier that fights Feyd has the Atreides hawk crest on his shorts. In the movie you can see the Atreides soldier has carved the hawk crest on his left forearm with a blade. Nice touch.
Right after paul wakes up from the dead, he's in a room full of people and his mother, he gazes at her and then you see the lighting around her dims and she close her eyes like she's about to faint.
I noticed this detail on my 4th rewatch of the movie and realized immediately that the following scene when he speaks to her about the visions becoming clear and that they're harkonens is all happening inside his and her minds. he couldn't wait until they're alone and have that exchange with her, he made it happen instantly by linking both their minds
proof of that how the 2 reverent mothers had a telepathic conversation at the end of the movie, only difference is the 1st exchange was shown from the inside while the latter was shown from the outside.
I caught the black cape on the first watch and was instantly impressed at the production team’s inclusion of this detail. Paul is trying to find his way, he sees multiple paths, but he embraces all the different qualities he possesses: Atredies; Bene Gesserit; Fremen; muad’Dib; and now Harkonnen.
Honestly, I think this series so far has encapsulated what I see as the human condition. I felt all the emotional swings throughout this movie and that is what I want: not just entertainment, but a movie that expresses the human experience.
On a side note: some people don’t like this movie bc of the way it ended and I would have to disagree. This is party of the journey and yeah, it sucks, but so does life sometimes and it’s not a fluffy happy ending like most movies or stories. It reminds me of infinity war and how I felt afterwards, my emotions were all over the place, but it was good! Only had to wait a year for the resolution though…this next movie will probably be 2 years. 😅
Would love it if more movies had endings like this. End game could’ve ended much darker in my opinion and therefore much more realistic
Villeneuve said he wants to wait 5 to 6 years before the next movie. Which makes sense since it'll give the actors the chance to "age up" a bit - "Dune Messiah" is set 14 years after "Dune", after all ...
I have a detail which I have been meaning to discuss.
In the first movie, we keep seeing a certain vision where Chani is in a mud-like long gown, a few times it even indicated there’s blood on her hands. In the second movie, we see a few very similar visions but we come to realise it’s actually Lady Jessica in the same mud-like gown from the first movie, pushing Paul towards the Holy War which, I’m guessing we all know, will eventually end billions of life.
What I believe is, Paul was seeing Chani in the visions during the first movie but slowly as his abilities were enhancing and he then even took the Water of Life, he saw the vision more accurately, that it was never Chani that encouraged him, but Lady Jessica-the blood on her hand probably indicates she instigated the massacre by planting the seeds for Paul to be Kwisatz Haderach and lead the Holy War, not Paul himself. Obviously we’ve seen Paul being consistently hesitant to go to the South because he knew South would mean the start of a path that’d end too many lives in the process.
(Pardon any mid-explanations anywhere.)
No, Chani being in place of Jessica in the first film was just another posible future
Awesome video as usual mate! Thanks!!!
Paul's entire personality and body language changed after the blue water, man just walked like a menacing force of nature
4:40 Also just after the scene there was a scene from above when Paul comes to the south and is going through a mass of Fremen people. They form a narrow way for him to go to the congregation room, almost like a worm wiggling through sand silhouette.
In the first part, the only futures Paul saw were littered with death on the freman, hence the black flag. The sand colored flag shows he found a better way to achieve his goals without the death of freman.
I think i also saw a hidden detail about the narrow path. When Paul goes to the temple to tell everyone he is the one they all have been waiting for, he walked through a huge crowd which could show all the enemies he will need to face but if he stays on the right path, he can go through.
i saw this in the loft cinema with my dad last week. such an amazing film!
Best sci-fi film in a long time
You hit like before watching the video coz you know how great job is gonna be, Thanks LAD always impressive ! ♥
maybe the atreides flag in dune part 2 wasn't a continuity error but a way of showcasing Paul atriedes becoming the duke of arrakis rather than caladan symbolizing with the characteristic desert like colours
“The Duniverse “ Lol I love that.
When riding a worm they do not attach the hooks to it's mouth but instead to it's segmented skin which when raised by the hooks, exposes the sensitive part underneath it's skin.
been waiting for this
Before the Paul vs Feyd final fight, Paul thumps his chest twice - Jamis thumped his chest twice before his fight with Paul in Part 1. Tiny little detail but such a good one I noticed a second watch round of both films
Also fremen recitation (May thy knife...) and Duncan's salute.
Just for your information :
-the day of the black sun recorded in "infrared camera" .
NOT black and white filters.
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The shadows of eclipse make the scene actually happen in dark.
But it's still on the daylight time. So the heat can be captured in black and white in infrared cameras.
"They fight in dark in the daylight when eclipse"
😊
I like the path The Canadian Lad is going exploring other movie genres ❤🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉
When he was talking about the fireworks it was not showing any fireworks, did anyone else notice that?
I did. Must have been an editing mistake
@@MalensekLuka that is what I was thinking, or copyright issue
I would love if you were more in the hypothetical realm. The "narrow way" maaaaay be that hallway, but I'd say we would need a confirmation from Denis. Personally, I think he's made some clever hints towards hidden messages, but I'm not sure that it extends to that length and depth. I would refrain from asking him a direct correlation so he doesn't just agree with the fandom theories... as he probably knows his source material enough to sound more clever than he is! More hypothetical statements would be in your honor. Great compilation!
I thought this was the part 2 of your breakdown 😂I've been looking for part 1
One of my favorite details that highlights the sheer power and overwhelming abilities of the Fremen as tacticians and fighters is just how quickly a couple of them dispatch the entirety of the advancing Sardaukar guards as they walk into the dust from the Hutment (or imperial tent) which is a perfect metaphor for what's going on. This detail is impressive because the Sardaukar chosen to protect the Emperor not only have the highest loyalty to him, but are the most able warriors that their training can produce. In fact, later on in that same scene we're given an exact number of men that a *single* Fremen-specifically Paul's Fedaykin-can handle: between 20 and 30 of the Padishah Emperor's most elite Sardaukar.
I think that cape indicator was actually the best one, cuz I can tell how ruthless he was when he was doing that speech
Dune team has upgraded the Hollywood level. Action, Story, Sets, Costumes all top of the class, feels like ultra-premium Hollywood movie.😄
Amazing how such obvious details, can be hidden details as well!
Javier Bardem was the standout in the film for me! I hope he’s in it a lot in the 3rd movie, but I don’t know how the books turn out😅
Idk if it's an editing mistake or not, when Paul sets a thumper to prove himself that he has become freman. He was a scarf and mask on his face, but when he tried to take control of the worm, he was sand visors on his face.
About Feyd's death, Paul made the same move as Feyd during his fight with the prisoner. This really shows that Paul can see the past of all men and women, as foretold in prophecy. Paul did see the past of Feyd. He saw his last fight with that prisoner.
That was the point if the movie. Charismatic leaders are bad.
"Paul killing Feyd shows that he's a better fighter" Holy crap, what a hidden detail, I'm so glad someone pointed that out... Also, so many of your hidden details aren't hidden or you're completely in the wrong.
At the integration scene there is cross made by sun light staring from the emperor
Also 1 more detail: When Margot tries the gom jabbar on Feyd, Margot goes back to talk with her fellow bene gesserits. She tells them feyd loves pain so that is how feyd probably breezed through the gom jabbar test.
Great details!
The grappling hooks don't go into the sandworm's mouth, they attach to a scale on the surface of the worm and lift it up. This causes sand to irritate the membrane underneath the scale (they added breathing holes in the film), making the worm stay above ground and rotate the opened scale as far from the sand as possible.
1:05 They do not attach the grapples to the worm's mouth. They attach it to the scales that cover the worm's breathing spiracles. Raising them up exposes the spiracles to irritating sand which causes the worm to not only avoid submerging, which would kill the rider, but also to raise the exposed scales a s high as possible, raising the rider above the sand wake. The director was careful to make sure that you can see the spiracles respiring under the raised scale.
Hey I just wanted to point out how the movie explains how Jessica is Baaron’s daughter and Fade-Ratha as his nephew , and when Paul and Fade-Ratha fight , Paul calls him cousin even though he should be considered long uncle not cousin since Jessica and Fade-Ratha r cousins . Correct if I’m wrong .
believe me when i say i don't think I have ever wanted to IMMEDIATELY rewatch a film after seeing it
"You Either Die a Hero or Live Long Enough to See Yourself Become the Villain". This quote fits perfectly for Paul.
The narrow way thorugh. Paul's hand movement is repeated again when he says "May the hand of God be my witness." Same movement is shown again by stilgar/gurney( I forgot, sorry) when the missiles are thrown.
Also Canadian Lad, When Paul drinks the water of life, He has a vision of Alia. Notice that there was a small sea of water, that means that Arrakis has changed after Paul became emperor.
Cool Detail: The Atreides warrior Feyd compliments, "You fought well...", & kills in the arena is played by Roger Yuan, the movie's fight coordinator.
3:03 - or it implies Paul has seen the past fight and killed na-baron like he killed one of Atreides.
GOD I REALLY LOVE THE LAST DETAIL
A cool effect was the fireworks that were like drops on a canvas
The narrow way through likely refers to the Golden Path from God Emperor of dune, rather than the hallway that Irulan comes out of
2:31 i think paul knows back and forward all alone his vision become clear , so he knows what to do i guess
He also said at 8:00 “then we fight like Harkkonens.”
Movie of the year no question asked Timothee chalamet understood the assignment
Kwisatz Haderach will be the “mentat reverend Emperor” with the super processing power
& ancestral memories for administration. It’s like a supercomputer with AI software & big data.
I was shocked to find that we are all gaining such power with developing technologies and
our humane utilization is vital for the future. I recognized that “Dune” is a prophetic masterpiece.
One more detail: After drinking the water of life, Paul doesn't see any visions or dreams
yes he does
Good work ❤
5:56 Probably it is because Paul changed the darker future with brighter one... It may not be a continuity error... It may be an interesting direction....
Best Film Of The Year so far. Denis, Greig, Hans, Timothee, Zendaya, Javier, Austin And Rebecca deserve The Oscars.
Something that's not explicitly said in the movie but mentioned by Denis is that he added these vents under the skin of the sandworms that react when opened by the grappling hooks to help the fremen steer the worms.
Another interesting detail is the hooks actually pull up the scales of the sandworms, and it has small nostrils/holes. I think the hooks pulling the scales up is what keeps the sandworms from diving under the sand as well so they don't get sand in these holes.
Could the part of the birds-eye- view when Paul walks among the Freman also be a visual of him walking the narrow way?
They said the water from the harkonnen was contaminated and full of chemicals and only useful for cooling purposes. It would not have been added to the ‘sacred’ water.
No man, you're thinking about the small details of his visions way too much. The change in the flags is simply because he changed the path he was on slightly. That's it, there is no other reason.
I think it's better to think Paul used Feyds move against him because he can read minds, so it's a subtle sign that even though feyd was a better fighter, this paranormal power Paul has carried him over and above feyd during the fight
I think the thing with the flag is because it's been emphasized in the second movie that Paul will only be able to see the future with crystal clarity after he drinks the water, before that nothing is clear or what he thinks it is. Make sense the flag could be black before he drank the water. Also Chani is there in the first vision and leaves off as her not joining him after the water. As for burning the soldiers, could also be that Stilgar said their bodies are fully of chemicals, which makes the water dirty and only good for coolants and other machinery, not for terraforming the planet. Just my thoughts :)
1:30 Geidi Prime was not filmed in black and white. It was filmed in infrared.
Brown flag is the Fremen color, plus the Atreides crest representing their union in Arrakis. Black flag with Atreides flag represents the holy all out war... There's no continuity error.
Sooo much parallel with Attack on Titan in this story
My fav detail is in the first film Paul sees a vision where fremens and sardaukars are fighting below and especially one fremen warrior whose mask retracts and reveals that it was Paul. But in part two during the attack on emperor, one fremen warrior does exactly the same moves as in the vision but it is Chani
Always great to see some observations in a movie that I loved by the Canadian lad, but is there anyone out there that can explain why he signs off as Kevin Hart there’s got to be a comical connection between the two I would love to know what it is
It was a cinematic masterpiece
8:00 That black cape doesn't denotes harakkenen, in Islamic eschatology the Mahdi will bring black flag
And as Paul is Mahdi for the fremen so he have black cape
Was that a Mark Normand reference at the end of the video
I can't explain why but "Loki(The Show) is to Marvel, What DUNE is to Hollywood" Maybe it's the vibes.
After sooooo lonnggg Canadian lad 😂
Ig too much 0.25x for you
5:04 - Reminiscent of _Fist of the North Star_