I hated sanding until I tried these! - saving time and money with Toolant sanding pads - Tested
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- Опубліковано 13 кві 2023
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The New Toolant sanding pads 60-400 grit selection:
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AugTouf 4.5" grinder 40grit flap discs 10 pack:
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Watch Joshua De lisle AWCB walk you through the creation process with his welded and hand forged works of Art and Luxury items.
In this episode we test the new Toolant hook and loop sanding pads with the revolutionary diamond shape net design, we look at using these within a business model and see how much more efficient they realy are in comparison to standard sanding pads by doing a simple test.
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I hope you enjoyed the review, If your interested in seeing more like this such as testing these against the 3M cubitron for example then please let me know. Also if you wish to support my channel by purchasing your own custom made plaque then find them here in my shop: www.etsy.com/uk/DelisleDesign/listing/1464729857/custom-signageplaque-personalised?Copy&ListingManager&Share&.lmsm&share_time=1681920640786
Cheers J
So when the cubitron comparison? REALLY looking forward to that! They are so expensive
I'm rapidly intrigued with your content.
I must tell you, though, your Thessalonians plaque reads a little wrong to people who don't understand how bible passages work.
It needs a bigger gap, here's what I mean.
4: 11-12. instead of
4:11-12.
It now doesn't look like three minutes ro 4:15!
I've not seen those sanding discs and I have a lifetime supply of the standard type, so I'll probably never even get to try them out! Thanks for adding the business calculations into the video. Most people don't think about the expenses that go into small business production. The profit margin is always tight for small businesses, while not so much for big business, which have volume purchasing power and often times in-house or sister company material suppliers.
Thanks for sharing that scripture. Message received! It's always a blessing to connect with another member of the family.
Your very welcome brother, we got to stick together and speak out in these last days. Cheers J
@@joshuadelisle We likely have different understandings of "the last days", but we certainly do need to stand together!
Mad Men threatening nuclear war. Hummm
Off-grid DIY steam engine? You spoil the viewer with your content Joshua 👍
Thank you. Yep coming soon. Cheers J
Interesting stuff - tool and consumable reviews are worth their weight in gold, mate.
Thank you. Cheers J
Thank you for the Scripture verse, brother! Good encouragement to keep working hard. I do similar work, self employed.
Thank you so much. Blessings to you and yours. Cheers J
Excellent video Joshua - from the moment I first started watching your blacksmithing videos years ago I knew there was something different about you. (1 Thessalonians 4 11-14) lovely passage. Also Psalm 121-1 my help comes from…… ✝️ stay strong.
Thank you. remembering Psalm 27:1 has gotten me through some scary times. I don't really talk about my faith on social media mainly because it gets me in a lot trouble and secondly because I've never felt good enough to be a Christ like example. So I save my testimony for in person conversations. Cheers J
You could make cool drawer fronts that way.
Toolant has good stuff and the price and shipping is fair. Thanks for the heads up.
Very useful and every information video this week Joshua. Can't wait to see more videos soon. Keep up the great craftsmanship and hard work my friend. Forge on. Fab on. Weld on. keep forge lit. Keep making. God bless.
Thank you so much. Have a blessed weekend. Cheers J
cheers for the details about the ancillary side of manufacturing, always good for people to know.
Thank you. Cheers J
These look awesome mate. The business side of things was really interesting to watch to 👏👏
Thank you Toby. Cheers J
Very good content and interesting results. Keep on doing everything you’re doing as it’s nice to have variation on your content 👍🏻👍🏻
Thank you Chris. More interesting projects to come. Cheers J
Arrrgh!!
Sanding,,, one of my pet hates!!
I'd rather barter the job out and then do something that I enjoy doing and can do well....
Like mucking out the Winter Byre!!
(Seriously, I would prefer this!!)
Namasté 🙏
Andrea and Critters. ...XxX....
Lol. Yep sanding isn't so fun. I'm glad it's quicker with these though. Although I'm now thinking of getting a thicknesser planer which would help immensely. Cheers J
I do so love your closing motto !
Thank you. I hope it inspires. Cheers J
Thanks! You give me much enthusiasm and happiness. God bless you and all your family. Your such wonderful mentor ❤ 💕 💖 💛 💙
You're very kind, thank you for your support and encouragement. God bless you also and have a great day. Cheers J
Excited about the PAPR update!
Thank you. Yep up shortly. Cheers J
Great video - Content like this has inspired me to build my own workshop and start making much more challenging projects 🙂
Thank you so much and all the very best on your workshop. Cheers J
There was a breadth of concepts covered in this that perfectly demonstrates some of the positives of neurodiversity. Come for the review stay for the business plan. Lovely.
Thank you so much. Definitely neurodivergent here. Cheers J
Awesome video, thank you, Joshua
Thank you for watching. Cheers J
Very interested in these. Fantastic video, thanks for doing it
Thank you. Cheers J
oh man the DIY air resp, i wanna see that!!!!!!!!
I really like your content. You videos are informative and honest. Keep up the good work :)
Thank you so much. Lots more to come. Cheers J
Always good
Good content, well presented
Thank you so much. Cheers J
Yep, got me sold!
Awesome content. Glad I stumbled across your channel 👍🏼
Thank you Luke. cheers J
Thanks for this video, I want to see more . . :)
Well done Sir…
Interesting! Yes, electric planer trumps sanding, but beware of nails & steel fixings. Small metal detectors used by metal detector users are super useful for finding small bits of steel & saving planer from damage. Generally I don’t like wood signs for external projects. They deteriorate too quickly. There is also competition from pound land & such who sell popular signs for a £1. There is often a market for seasonal stuff at the several holiday times per year. Steel or stainless or aluminum or brass signs last much longer, but are heavier & cost more & can’t be marketed as recycled. Maybe personalized dovetail or box joint boxes that you can laser cut would be better, possible flat pack for buyer to assemble and/or sliding lids to avoid cost & trouble of hinges. Looking forward to updated “air con” mask. Thank you for sharing!
Great content. Thank you
Thank you for watching. Cheers J
I've been using this brand of sanding disks for a while now and I like them a lot. They are pretty cheap too. These sanding disks stay sharp and don't shed into the work so you won't end up with a bunch of erroneous swirls.
Thank you Jack. Cheers J
another great video Joshua - really loving the variety and your creativity. The reviews are great also, especially for budget / affordable items + items that will improve all our lives a little - like the sanding discs. I'm really looking forward to future content and would love you to re-visit the plasma CNC🙂. Its really good seeing things you sell - its something I have a passion for as a side line to my job currently - just have to get my workshop together again after moving. thanks again pal - take care - Mike
Thank you so much. Lots more to come. Cheers J
Excited for the PAPR mk II and would enjoy a press build. Cheers
Thank you. Coming soon. Cheers J
I can see those sanding discs being occasionally useful for some of the jobs I do. The flap discs I need to buy right now! nice review, thanks.
Thank you. Links in the description. Cheers J
@@joshuadelisle I will use those to order thanks. I was grinding off some weld with a cheap flapper today and was irritated by how long it took and how rough the finish was. Those discs look much better than what I used and aren't a whole lot more expensive. You dropped this upload at just the right time 😀
@@Moondog-wc4vm I hope they serve you well. Cheers J
Keep a old paint brush for dusting and get 100 for 18 to last twice as long.
Another top video, thanks. Can't wait for the press build and the respirator video, I also work with metal all day long and hate wearing a mask! I need something like what you've made! I did away with flap discs bud, even zirconia ones. I bought a backing pad and ceramic discs from eng weld, they are amazing
Thanks. I use those as well for steel. I find the flap discs are better for edge work like weld prep or bevels. I normally use a regular grinding wheel for 90% of a weld to be flush and then finish with a fibre disc for flat finish. Cheers J
Yes good content
Thank you so much. cheers J
Nice coverage Joshua, the best improvement for sanding discs is a block sander cleaner , I’ve got an original black rubber one I’ve had for at least ten years & a few Amazon natural rubber ones , not as good but it’s a game changer for cleaning sanding discs.. prolonging them for much longer by de clogging them in seconds.
I'll check those out. However I didn't show it but a quick spray with the airline soon sorts out these new discs from clogs. I guess the air gets up underneath because of the trammels. Cheers J
second that for the cleaner. Will make your discs last many times longer when using on wood to get the resin and gunk off. Not so sure about metal though. 3m cubitron II discs are the mutts though - have ditched all the old type discs and only use those now - take ages to clog, clean in seconds
Brilliant
Cheers J
Seems like some decent pads. I'd be interested in a comparison with the 3M Cubitron II Xtract which is currently my goto sanding pad. A little more expensive than most, but they perform great and they're also superb for dust extraction.
Morning Mr J. 😁
Boy howdy you packed a whopper of information and value added tips in this one. Definitely a multi-watch video to soak in the content.
Nice disks. I'll wager the end cost vs performance will be lower than standard disc by a third to a half.
Blessings aboundant my friend
Crawford out 🙏🔥⚒️🧙🏼♂️
Thank you so much. Yes although they're 2x the price of the cheapest for the time saving and how long they last is definitely saving a lot more. I would need to test them for a much longer duration to see the long term integrity but it's obvious that it's a lot more efficient already. Cheers J
Using 3m cubitron for a while now, and they rarely get clogged. They've outlasted the cheaper discs by over 10fold.
I'll have to try those and test against these. cheers J
😊 yep.
I like the cost, profit ratios. Nice touch. The pads look snazzy..
Thank you. It's the kind of information I would like to see so I'm glad you appreciate it also. Cheers J
If you are planing to sell more of these in the future consider buying a thiknes planer they leave a great finish and you get them donne in a few seconds
Very good Idea I'm definitely looking into that. Cheers J
I like it 💪
Thank you. Cheers J
No one in retail is putting less than double on there cost price. Most places are closer to 250% so add 150% to your total cost then you have a useful number.
While the whole video was interesting, and I'll have to try and source some Toolant sanding pads here in Norway. What really surprised me was how flexible you were with your arm and shoulder when switching on the personal air conditioning (now that is a build I look forward to seeing. PAPR stuff done DIY is really a project I would like to get into)
About forging an interesting life. I have to weld a little on my wood processor build, disassemble the beams on my 60sqm veranda that is going down and go for a pushbike ride later on. Tomorrow - helping a friend install fenching for his dogyard. I cannot complain :-)
Thank you so much. My papr system still needs refining. for example instead of a push button i'm going for a lever switch which is easier to operate with a welding gauntlet and I'm currently using a cheap posture correcting harness as shoulder straps but as you saw it is a little difficult to reach. i'm glad your up and being practical. all the very best. cheers J
If you want the most cost effective and efficient sanding discs get some 3m cubitron 2 discs. They seem expensive until you realise they will outlast the next best thing by 4 to 5 times. They will outlast the cheapo toolpak ones 15:1. Mirka base cut 10:1
Dewalt Bosch etc about 10:1 too. They really are that good. And no I don’t work for 3m
I've just seen the tests for the cubitron. Very impressive. I would like to see the performance test against these though especially on price. Maybe I'll do that.... Cheers J
Great test. Wondering how I'd find this video in a few months I searched for best orbital sanding disc and yours didn't come up.
Maybe you should change the title of this & other videos that could be useful for months & years from now 👍
Thank you I'll check that. Cheers J
Really nice looking sanding pads. Like the simplicity in solution preventing glogging. Would've been nice to see "pigtail" test, but I'd suppose that has to leave much less those swirl marks on ie. painted surfaces. By far the biggest annoynce imo when using orbital sanders. I can deal even with fast wearing pads, but those damned markings... They add up in work time quite a bit when they happen.
I'll consider that if I do another test. cheers J
now i would buy the new discs
i wonder if they do any for metal work
I would use the zirconium fibre discs for the angle grinder alongside the flap disc for metalwork. These orbital sanders are good for paint prep and final finish on hiding mitre welded joints. Cheers J
I found a fool proof way to do sanding that makes the job 100% more easy. All you have to do is get someone else to do it for you! If you have kids or know of a friend who has some teens looking for work you could get them to do the bulk of it and just do the finishing yourself. Jokes aside bring on a CNC sander machine where you scan an object and just ask for say 0.01mm taken off and it just does it.
Lol. I'm actually thinking of investing in a thicknesser or plainer to get the boards cut to a set thickness so the laser is also more easier to focus as they'll all be the same. Cheers J
Good video - would it be more efficient to laser engrave multiples at the same time? - might reduce the overhead in the setup phase. I like there is scope to increase efficiency if demand increases - like using a fence sprayer for doing the treatment.
Maybe wooden plant labels? They seem to be very expensive so might be scope there. Or pet memorials - sounds morbid but people bury pets in the garden - hammie the hamster needs to be remembered and of course weddings - truly the font of the endless spending.
Thank you so much. Great tips to consider. Cheers J
2x is not bad. Zirconia belts were 3-4 times the price over alumina when they rolled-out. Don't wait till the end to say they're zirconia though, I won't be the last to comment before it 😃
Thank you. I think they're great. Zirconia is definitely the best option for steel by far. Cheers J
Nicely done ;o)
It may pay a premium to offer customisable aspects. As you say a choice of several fonts, but maybe add a few graphics?
It is easy to get bogged down with detail, but the balance is to have people getting a custom piece (even if it is "custom" from a set of templates)
It might also be possible to join a couple of them edge to edge to give a higher sign?
That's a good idea. I'll definitely consider that. Cheers J
Josh. Can I please ask, what is that material around your neck that you've sewn the pipes to? Is it some kind of buff/scarf? Thanks
Hi. Yes I'm doing a video on it soon. I'm using modified standard buff but it contains polyester so I'm making a cotton version so it's safer for welding with. Cheers J
You need a Makita 4inch belt sander, it would blitz through those signs in two passes.
That would work. Or an electric planer I'm thinking of investing in. Cheers J
@@joshuadelisle I have both, the Makita 9401 (I wouldn't be without it, you can turn it upside down, put permanent run button on and use it as a linisher sander with two hands free). As for a planer, they're all similar and normally 89mm wide or 100mm and all have two blades in a revolving block.
However Triton tools do a wide model it's triple bladed, 180mm wide (so good for 6inch planks in a single pass, trust me a double pass with a narrower planer is a pain). And it doubles up as an unlimited depth rebate planer because it is designed to be.
With those two machines a Makita circular saw and a router you can build a huge amount of stuff.
@@rayhsetwo8594 awesome. Thank you for the great tip. Cheers J
Thanks for the review. I was hoping you'd come up with a new, fast way to hand sand blades, but I suspect we're all stuck with sand paper and lots of time. Sigh.
I think an electric planer is a good option for speed for this job. Sometimes a sander is the best option especially for paint prep work or epoxy finishing . Cheers J
Great review, but 24p is not double 10p so whilst good at what they do these new pads may work great, but they'll still cost more than using the regular ones.
Personally, I use the Abranet system which seems to have the longest lasting life for a sanding pad.
Thank you. I guess the main saving is time which will be a cost saving it that is greater than the price of the disc. Cheers J
@@joshuadelisle Agreed, I chose the system I use on car body repair and paint prep because I spend more time on the job and less time changing out pads. Keep up the great content, I really enjoy your videos.
You need a drum sander or power planer I think
I've just got an electric planer and will Modify it into a thicknesser. May do a video on it. Cheers J
@@joshuadelisle I just HATE sanding haha
Now go to shop and ask for FESTOOL sand paper so you see once and for all who is god among sand papers
But 150mm 120 grit are no cheaper than 3m cubitron.
You should really add a #add to be transparent that you’re going to benefit from sales/may have a bias
The results are what they are, there is no bias. there should be a notification to say paid sponsorship/product placement on the video at the beginning. My links are listed as affiliate links. Cheers J
I like how he really broke down the actual cost and time. Kind of depressing though.
Yep it stops a lot of fun projects from happening but at least it prevents losing money. Cheers J
^5
That would be way nicer if you used a CNC router.
your right it would, however i've not got the room for that yet in my workshop, need to make space for my cnc plasma table first.... cheers J
Someone get bro a small planer
How can I buy one ?
Links are in the description. Cheers J
@@joshuadelisle
Thanks for replying but I meant how can I but one of the wooden name plaques ?
@@ronpalmer1371 oh Thank you! Sorry I thought you meant the sanding pads. I haven't listed the plaques yet as I wanted some photos of them on gates and walls for the shop but the weather has turned and is miserably wet so I haven't made them public just yet. If you favourite my Etsy shop you'll be notified as soon as I've made them available. Cheers J
@@joshuadelisle
I should have been clearer 😂
I want one that says MOOSE HALL
haven’t got a clue what Etsy is but I suppose I’ll find it 😁
@@ronpalmer1371 awesome Thank you. Etsy is an online platform for hand crafted and artisan products. A bit like Amazon for small businesses. There's a link to my shop in the description. Otherwise I'll notify you here with a link once I've made them available. Alternatively my details are in my bio if you wish to email. All the very best. Cheers J
The link to the pads is £23
That's gone up...
I think you set your margin to low. I feel a price of 15 pounds ex post would be reasonable. Remember your consumables (router bits, laser, sandpaper).
I think that's a good point. Market value is probably higher so I could increase the margin making it more profitable. I normally include an average for consumables in the workshop rate but I could put that as a separate cost per so many parts as your right that they will wear out significantly whilst making these signs. Cheers J
Those margins are so tight... I wouldn't even bother.
make them, 15-20$ and you could make some good money. No idea if they would sell for that price though.
Also you forgot time for packaging and shipping them out.
That might be another 3 minutes?
Your right. I could definitely increase the margin. I did forget packing... Although I have a cardboard role for these and a label printing system so it is very quick still. Cheers J
Why don't you send them through a planer first? 90+% of the sanding would be done, and all boards would be consistently the same thickness and be actually flat.
Very good idea. I'll invest in one. Cheers J
1 Thessalonians 4 11-12
11 And that ye study to be quiet, and to do your own business, and to work with your own hands, as we commanded you;
12 That ye may walk honestly toward them that are without, and that ye may have lack of nothing.
1 Thessalonians 4:11-12
King James Version
11 And that ye study to be quiet, and to do your own business, and to work with your own hands, as we commanded you;
12 That ye may walk honestly toward them that are without, and that ye may have lack of nothing.
I like the ESV and NIV translation as it makes a bit more sense in today's language. Cheers J
You hated sanding until you tried holes!!
Top vid, been looking to upgrade my sandpaper. Think I’ll give these a go. SUBSCRIBED..🏴 by the way.
Thank you so much. All the very best. Cheers J
£150 thicknesser and planner one pass job done and less dust
Screwfix
I beat you to it. Electric hand planer £30 modified to be a thicknesser. Coming up soon. Cheers J