Bet you have issues with the installation if you did it this way didn’t you?? If not you will soon. Look above the panel for mold below the paint because if you used regular sheetrock that’s how mold will grow behind the panels and if it’s at the top it’s made its way down to the bottom. He did not seal the joints which is in the instructions if he had taken the time to read them. Also using a roller to ensure no air bubbles were in it was something else he missed. I really hope you figured out quickly that there’s a manufacturer video on here that showed the proper installation. I’ve done thousands of square feet of these and 1/4 of them were repairs because the contractor did like he did and most apartment buildings use low bid. The problem instructions are very simple and if you read them first they will list all of the materials you need for a proper water tight surround.
78-82” is good height for shower head….. some wall heights are different on the tub surrounds. I do agree that putting it 1 inch above the tub surround is a great place and you don’t have to worry about water getting on there unprotected part of the wall.
I’m here because I’m doing my tub surround in our 1992 modular home. The original surround was just glued straight onto the wall panels which are kinda like drywall panels but have like a vinyl Like wallpaper on them. When I ripped the old surround out there was a bunch of the wallpaper stuff that ripped off exposing some of the paper layer underneath which I hope won’t be a problem when trying to glue the new surround on. I’m just in the process of scraping the old glue off with a putty knife to make sure it’s smooth with no bumps before I glue the new surround in
Your surround should be glued to cement board or purple board that is water resistant. Placing it directly on drywall is not ideal for a bathtub surround with moisture. That paper that came off is supposed to be on and will make that wall more porous.
Also, whats up with the alignment of the valve shower head and spout? Unless that was already existing and the customer specifically asked for it that way I would never misalign those with the drain.
Thank you for the video just a quick question do you have to turn the water off to the tub before you do this project or can you just remove the handles without turning off the water to the tub
As I explained in another comment, I couldn't get any at the time my lumber yard was out. I don't have access to a lot of materials here. It is my own house and plan on replacing it with a better one when I have the money.
Did you put the locktight in the corners and on the overlap to bond the panels? Just curious because i remember reading it wouldnt bond the two panels together
@mikesmadness6669 Okay, thank you. Asking because I'm helping my friend install basically the same one but the overlaps aren't wanting to sit flat with the other panels
How did you address the small exposed section of drywall that the panal doesnt cover? I'm in the exact same situation and am not sure what to do. Thanks!
In the same boat here gonna need about another 10” above cause of the shower head height….. I’ll be running some 1x pvc trim above the surround - just in case of water from wild shower parties 😂
Why didn’t you use MMR board instead of Sheetrock? There’s no way you can prevent the top of the wall getting wet and eventually soaking the wall behind the panel causing mold and the paper to separate. Moisture Mold resistant regular sheetrock is specifically made for this application. I’ve installed thousands of square feet of this in apartments and homes and it’s the recommended material for two reasons. The first is in the name mold resistant and the second is that if you use FRP glue or the tube glue the paper has a bonding agent on it to ensure that the layer of paper on the board doesn’t separate. Maybe call a real contractor before installing this. It’s a cheap product but can be a very good bathroom addition. The problem is that if it’s not done properly, as you’re showing, you’ll have water infiltration and mold /mildew in the wall space. I always use a moisture barrier above the panel and paint using a half round pvc or silicone strip to seal the top as well as aesthetic appeal. Those thanking you will be cussing you in a few short years when they can’t find where the musty smell is or the panels start coming off or both. Having to repair work like this because of contractors like you that literally throw the instructions aside because you believe you know what you’re doing made me lots of money but I don’t like the problem of the people having been sickened because of mold exposure nor the extra expense.
Oh Yes i should have recorded that as well. I masked each side of the joint and put the sealant on then pulled the tape off. Be careful you don't do what i did any by accident use clear, doesn't look that good. Also i went with the cheapest surround, i had trouble with a couple of areas that i had to go back and get more adhesive in the joint. It really wasn't a very good surround.
Just a question, should you use the purple or green mildew resistant sheetrock or is it okay to use a regular? It looked like that was regular sheetrock? Thank you
That is a priblem for sure. You can put something waterproof on the sill like tile. You can in some places but vinyl trim like 1 x 6, and use that to trim the window out after you install the surround.
Never use regular drywall behind a shower wall. Use a water resistant wallboard. Makes me think the guy is selling the house and doesn't care what happens to it in a couple years. Sad that people make DIY videos who don't know what they are doing...
Why on earth would you need a waterproof board behind a vinyl tub surround? You waterproof behind tile because water travels through grout, but it cannot travel through plastic.
Thank you! I am installing the same type of surround so having a video like this is really helpful.
Bet you have issues with the installation if you did it this way didn’t you?? If not you will soon. Look above the panel for mold below the paint because if you used regular sheetrock that’s how mold will grow behind the panels and if it’s at the top it’s made its way down to the bottom. He did not seal the joints which is in the instructions if he had taken the time to read them. Also using a roller to ensure no air bubbles were in it was something else he missed. I really hope you figured out quickly that there’s a manufacturer video on here that showed the proper installation. I’ve done thousands of square feet of these and 1/4 of them were repairs because the contractor did like he did and most apartment buildings use low bid. The problem instructions are very simple and if you read them first they will list all of the materials you need for a proper water tight surround.
78-82” is good height for shower head….. some wall heights are different on the tub surrounds. I do agree that putting it 1 inch above the tub surround is a great place and you don’t have to worry about water getting on there unprotected part of the wall.
I’m here because I’m doing my tub surround in our 1992 modular home. The original surround was just glued straight onto the wall panels which are kinda like drywall panels but have like a vinyl Like wallpaper on them. When I ripped the old surround out there was a bunch of the wallpaper stuff that ripped off exposing some of the paper layer underneath which I hope won’t be a problem when trying to glue the new surround on. I’m just in the process of scraping the old glue off with a putty knife to make sure it’s smooth with no bumps before I glue the new surround in
Your surround should be glued to cement board or purple board that is water resistant. Placing it directly on drywall is not ideal for a bathtub surround with moisture. That paper that came off is supposed to be on and will make that wall more porous.
@@dustenwalker484 I take your point but would mention that my surround was glued right on regular old drywall 32 years ago and is dry as a bone.
what did you use to make the cuts?
The edge at the drywall? I didn't cover it with anything. I like a clean look. The water doesn't get that far out
Also, whats up with the alignment of the valve shower head and spout? Unless that was already existing and the customer specifically asked for it that way I would never misalign those with the drain.
Must have been an optical allusion they were lined up
Thank you for the video just a quick question do you have to turn the water off to the tub before you do this project or can you just remove the handles without turning off the water to the tub
The handle should come off without turning the water off.
@@mikesmadness6669 Cool thank you so much!
As I explained in another comment, I couldn't get any at the time my lumber yard was out. I don't have access to a lot of materials here. It is my own house and plan on replacing it with a better one when I have the money.
Did you put the locktight in the corners and on the overlap to bond the panels? Just curious because i remember reading it wouldnt bond the two panels together
I did not where it overlaps, but I did glue the corners in.
@mikesmadness6669 Okay, thank you. Asking because I'm helping my friend install basically the same one but the overlaps aren't wanting to sit flat with the other panels
I taped the seems until it was dry for like 24 hours
Can you used hardie boards instead of water resistant boards?
Yes you can
Ok. What do you use to seal the joints?
@@JC-ud4jn silicone
How did you address the small exposed section of drywall that the panal doesnt cover? I'm in the exact same situation and am not sure what to do. Thanks!
I just paint up to the surround. Or tile. Whatever is your taste or budget
In the same boat here gonna need about another 10” above cause of the shower head height….. I’ll be running some 1x pvc trim above the surround - just in case of water from wild shower parties 😂
What brand did you use?
I'd have to look it up, but it was from Lowes
Maxx
Trying to figure out about the material to use when you are out of tub surround, because I made a bad cut any suggestions
You could try using that fiberglass sheeting. I can think of what is called.
Thank you brother
Yes FRP
Why didn’t you use MMR board instead of Sheetrock? There’s no way you can prevent the top of the wall getting wet and eventually soaking the wall behind the panel causing mold and the paper to separate. Moisture Mold resistant regular sheetrock is specifically made for this application. I’ve installed thousands of square feet of this in apartments and homes and it’s the recommended material for two reasons. The first is in the name mold resistant and the second is that if you use FRP glue or the tube glue the paper has a bonding agent on it to ensure that the layer of paper on the board doesn’t separate. Maybe call a real contractor before installing this. It’s a cheap product but can be a very good bathroom addition. The problem is that if it’s not done properly, as you’re showing, you’ll have water infiltration and mold /mildew in the wall space. I always use a moisture barrier above the panel and paint using a half round pvc or silicone strip to seal the top as well as aesthetic appeal. Those thanking you will be cussing you in a few short years when they can’t find where the musty smell is or the panels start coming off or both. Having to repair work like this because of contractors like you that literally throw the instructions aside because you believe you know what you’re doing made me lots of money but I don’t like the problem of the people having been sickened because of mold exposure nor the extra expense.
Thanks for the video
How many tubs of glue you used
3
You made a huge error by not installing green board behind your shower. You're just asking for mold issues.
First of all the humidity here is aainf 8%. Second, you can't get it here.
I don't really remember, it's been a while. 3 or 4 maybe
Nearly all new builds will simply use drywall.
Very nice job u did love the video thinking about doing the same thing in my bathroom did u do a video on how u did the sealant
Oh Yes i should have recorded that as well. I masked each side of the joint and put the sealant on then pulled the tape off. Be careful you don't do what i did any by accident use clear, doesn't look that good. Also i went with the cheapest surround, i had trouble with a couple of areas that i had to go back and get more adhesive in the joint. It really wasn't a very good surround.
Just a question, should you use the purple or green mildew resistant sheetrock or is it okay to use a regular? It looked like that was regular sheetrock? Thank you
I would have bit out want available here. But i wanted to
No i didn't sorry
I don't know what to do my bathroom has a window right in the middle of the shower.
That is a priblem for sure. You can put something waterproof on the sill like tile. You can in some places but vinyl trim like 1 x 6, and use that to trim the window out after you install the surround.
Panel adhesive
You should have used green drywall.
I couldn't get it here. I don't understand why they don't have it.
All that time and never showed how the edges get finished. Please don't tell me moulding.
Never use regular drywall behind a shower wall. Use a water resistant wallboard. Makes me think the guy is selling the house and doesn't care what happens to it in a couple years. Sad that people make DIY videos who don't know what they are doing...
What is sad is I couldn't get any here, I almost used cement or Hardie backer, but didn't. As long as it's water right it will be fine.
@@mikesmadness6669i am sure that person doesn’t tell what to do or pay you!
@@kevincampos1266 it was my own place
Why on earth would you need a waterproof board behind a vinyl tub surround? You waterproof behind tile because water travels through grout, but it cannot travel through plastic.
Can you put it over a existing waterproof wall panel
Please use green board or dura rock behind a shower
It specifically said no durarock. I couldn't get green board