@@jimz1024 Insignia of the Horde. Different Classes get different removing effects, for Priest this would fear, poly, stun. Non-Hardcore you needed a certain amount of honor & rank (2 i think). In hardcore they removed all the PVP gear you could buy, but left the PVP trinket and changed it to a flat 20g to buy. I'm not really sure of the reasoning for allowing the PVP trinket. Most likely because while it was PVP, it was still popular to use in PVE situations. You can get it even at level 1. A lot of people tend to forget that it even exists in hardcore.
@@jossg5915 Most likely the reason why they have allowed the PVP trinket to remain in the game is because of PVP being in the game and honor ranks doesn't work on hardcore, it's got nothing to do with PVE.
@@Ezerael Nothing to do with PvE huh? I guess I'll just have to paste the official notes from PTR before initial launch: "The PvP honor system will be completely disabled on Hardcore Realms and this is intended. Please note that we do plan to implement a method for hardcore players to obtain the PvP trinket when patch 1.14.4 goes live, as this trinket has utility outside of the Honor System (such as in duels or PvE content)."
@@brunoxd151definitely didn’t “own” Ziqo it was a great duel, ziqo had horrible rng, I also wouldn’t be surprised if ziqo levels just to rematch Sara haha
Ya idk if Sara owned him but honestly that player was super impressive the way she was in and out to avoid the gouge reset. Granted I do feel for ziqo for having all the kidney resists lol
It feels like the classes didn't have every tool for the occasion as it is right now. That resulted in more identity for the classes and items and professions were a compensation for a weakness you had with your class. Biggest example if this was the warrior class in wow vanilla. Also the damage wasn't as overtuned. One of SoDs greatest tragedies
He uses it for chat block, and I hate to tell you he's not gonna resize it every time he watches a different clip. Normally it wouldn't be in the way but he's trying to show Ziqo's cam of course
@@KingJerbear ahh so the cam is basically chat sized? That makes sense, thank you. :) I just thought it was off that it was that huge and blocking buffs/debuffs
Fewer high impact abilities makes it easier to follow. Cheap shot, kidney, fear In retail pvp there are so many things happening at once which makes it really hard to follow.
I mean yeah, but that's not what happened here, and I do believe Ziqo has crippling on MH. You can clearly see the white "Absorb" text from an auto attack when he cheapshots. Doing the 180 degree turn works, but is easy to mess up, which is why i prefer the mouse-over macro
Because when a good player fights another good player, even if one wins more often than not, at best it will be 60-40. So even if ure better, ud still lose 40% of the time, because the other guy is also good. Unless of course its like mage vs warrior.
@@bryanbryan6108 im saying that pika declining makgora isnt an act of cowardice. No matter how good u are, ud still have a 80-90% winrate at best. But against a player of sara's calibre, it would be 60-65% max. So eventually it will catch up to u. No one can escape death forever. So its smart for pika to decline the makgora, yet still dueled him multiple times to sharpen his skills.
Every single opener that Ziqo did was complete shit. Don't try to build up combo points of sap at this level and he broke the sap anyway. Then he was not unable to open as he approached the priest from the direction the priest was facing. Then instead of sapping of the priest's shield Ziqo went and cheap shotted him instantly and lost damage to the shield. And now crippling poison, the priest was just running full speed around the whole fight. The priest though did excellent.
how does this work. Is this a special server or something? How can i play this also? Can someone pleaaase give me a clear explaination about this mode, how it works and how to play?
What Ziqo could have done better: When he had a dot and walked away, he shouldn't have eaten and let the priest catch up to him. Instead he should have walked until he could stealth, find a good spot and eat there. Not sure if that happened, but use WotF and then sprint to counter fear. Also when the priest had ~0% mana and he had ~50%+ health, he should have engaged. But the priest played very well, although he wasted some mana, and was close to losing when he ran around with ~0% mana.
He did that a few times at the start. I think the reason he stopped LoS'ing and waiting for the dot to go away, was because he found it to be too cheesy. I dont have any other logical explanation, as when he did it in the start he made a full reset, and then later in the duel he would eat and let the priest catch up, instead of just keep running. Think it was purely a "honor" thing from him.
I get that Ziqo is a great mage and a player overall, but he totally messed up 3 openers and as a rogue, if you have a bad opener you lose 90% of time. Also against priest you have a very small window, where he doesn't have fear, shield and trinket. If you don't kill him in that window it's a loss.
It was not a duel between Ziqo and Sara, but between Ziqo and Luck. In fact, if at least one resist had not been proc, everything could have ended differently. (Well, plus endless glue)
Priest is the most broken 1v1 class at low levels. It gets so much of its utility kit early on and is very strong against rogue specifically with all its DoTs, it's so easy to keep them in combat and when Ziqo is trying to stealth/sap between ticks within 10yds it's a free fear for the priest. Ziqo got screwed with resists and dodges though so it would have been much closer if all his stuns actually landed.
@@C_Griffy it's common practice amongst simps to play a female character with a female name to trick other people into thinking you're actually a girl in order to get free gold and carries.
your death situation was different, and you shouldn't have asked to do it (send gold to hold) just do it. If there's no rule against it, you can't break it. When you bring light to it... you get it.
You are taking this s*it with soda said this and soda said that, soda allowed this and that too far. You act like a corporate bunch, where Soda is the big boss and you all suck up to him. It's ridicilous and you are humiliationg yourselves.
it's funny how streamers feel the need to glaze each other when reaction to a a video from them and feel extremely sad when a random wins over them and need to justify why they lose.. like holy f what an annoying type of people
Because that would be completely boring and one-sided. The priest automatically wins that. 100% of the time, even without consumables. Two fears and its over. No potential for outplay, no potential for LoS. No potential for any other outcome. It's a scripted instant loss for basically anything other than maybe a mage or a warlock to accept that duel.
No energy timer vs a good pvper in classic you die as a rogue. Timing openers and skills with say nugtimer makes a huge difference in classic if you know your roguecraft.
Priest can literally just wand and save all mana for shield fear heal ..waste of mana using mb tbh...so not the best priest really. At that lvl the bfd wand with wand spec is op. Also the 3x using sticky glue...is what won it.
Like using a healthstone is kinda cheating though as priest never had one and rogue cant craft them its a earlock ability and he still lost haha amzing.
4:47 Priest went shopping mid dual to the death hahahah
Pwnd
Tick drinking for 5 minutes should be a lot of drinks.
The moral of the story is don't Mak'Gora a Priest that has 7 ears. 😅
Do you collect an ear every time you win a Makgora? If so that's metal af!
@@smokeweebs8700 yes. every ear represents a player that they killed
@@smokeweebs8700 Also players dont start giving ears until level 20
@@smokeweebs8700 as long as theyre within 5 levels and lvl 20+
Yea it's like being up against bishop Heahmund.
The priest having that pvp trinket this early is INSANE
Skinning enough = you can get 20 gold at around lvl 30-32
which pvp trinket do you mean?
@@jimz1024 Insignia of the Horde. Different Classes get different removing effects, for Priest this would fear, poly, stun. Non-Hardcore you needed a certain amount of honor & rank (2 i think). In hardcore they removed all the PVP gear you could buy, but left the PVP trinket and changed it to a flat 20g to buy. I'm not really sure of the reasoning for allowing the PVP trinket. Most likely because while it was PVP, it was still popular to use in PVE situations. You can get it even at level 1. A lot of people tend to forget that it even exists in hardcore.
@@jossg5915 Most likely the reason why they have allowed the PVP trinket to remain in the game is because of PVP being in the game and honor ranks doesn't work on hardcore, it's got nothing to do with PVE.
@@Ezerael Nothing to do with PvE huh? I guess I'll just have to paste the official notes from PTR before initial launch:
"The PvP honor system will be completely disabled on Hardcore Realms and this is intended.
Please note that we do plan to implement a method for hardcore players to obtain the PvP trinket when patch 1.14.4 goes live, as this trinket has utility outside of the Honor System (such as in duels or PvE content)."
That dude challenged pika last night, pika dint do it lol bro had like 12 ears on him
Is sara going around trying to collect streamer ears? lmao
That would be epic lol. But no one will dare to challenge him after he owned Ziqo
@@brunoxd151definitely didn’t “own” Ziqo it was a great duel, ziqo had horrible rng, I also wouldn’t be surprised if ziqo levels just to rematch Sara haha
Ya idk if Sara owned him but honestly that player was super impressive the way she was in and out to avoid the gouge reset. Granted I do feel for ziqo for having all the kidney resists lol
👌🏽
@@kcfinessesuper impressive no. Avoiding the gouge 101
That was an excellent priest!
rly lucky one aswell
Looked just decent, really. Not getting kidney'd that many times in a row is just plain luck.
@@Lecrie if you manage a kill on ziqo your excellent
I agree Ziqo was unlucky, but you don't have 6 ears from just being lucky.
I see Hydra is having fun lol
Not just because its a MakGora but why are the classic duels so much more fun to watch and retail pvp?
In this classic version every race is overpowered, thats why all classes are so much fun. The balancing and nerfs came over the years
@@futureisours5297 true. I also feel like there is no feeling of impact in retail. There's way to many shields and stuff.
bcause u also understand what happened, what u can understand on retail? theres over 3000 spell for every class lol
Not for everyone, seeing someone running around a house for 10min each time something go wrong is not really fun to me
It feels like the classes didn't have every tool for the occasion as it is right now. That resulted in more identity for the classes and items and professions were a compensation for a weakness you had with your class. Biggest example if this was the warrior class in wow vanilla. Also the damage wasn't as overtuned. One of SoDs greatest tragedies
priest is 1 level below & is SSF
does your cam have to take up like 15% of the screen? :/
Why watch Xaryus PoV if you don't want his stream overlay?
20% size next video, just for you
He uses it for chat block, and I hate to tell you he's not gonna resize it every time he watches a different clip. Normally it wouldn't be in the way but he's trying to show Ziqo's cam of course
sad boi
@@KingJerbear ahh so the cam is basically chat sized? That makes sense, thank you. :)
I just thought it was off that it was that huge and blocking buffs/debuffs
xaryu such a great commentator
Those Kidneys were so unlucky man. ggs tho wp priest
Possibly priest had the stun res telent, the dodge is pure unlucky though lol
Fewer high impact abilities makes it easier to follow.
Cheap shot, kidney, fear
In retail pvp there are so many things happening at once which makes it really hard to follow.
Main hand poison can proc on cheap shot, which is why I prefer crip main hand when going for sap cheap combos
I mean yeah, but that's not what happened here, and I do believe Ziqo has crippling on MH.
You can clearly see the white "Absorb" text from an auto attack when he cheapshots.
Doing the 180 degree turn works, but is easy to mess up, which is why i prefer the mouse-over macro
Pikaboo ran into the priest last night, wanted to Mak’gora. They dueled like 4-5 times but Pika wouldn’t risk his character, was fun to watch
Because when a good player fights another good player, even if one wins more often than not, at best it will be 60-40. So even if ure better, ud still lose 40% of the time, because the other guy is also good. Unless of course its like mage vs warrior.
@@kerkertrandov459the original comment wasn’t a question. Who are you talking to?
@@bryanbryan6108 im saying that pika declining makgora isnt an act of cowardice. No matter how good u are, ud still have a 80-90% winrate at best. But against a player of sara's calibre, it would be 60-65% max. So eventually it will catch up to u. No one can escape death forever. So its smart for pika to decline the makgora, yet still dueled him multiple times to sharpen his skills.
@@bryanbryan6108 classic classic andy
How many ears did sara have when pika met him?
The most impressive thing is having the pvp trinket as SSF at this level 😳
How do you get pvp trinket in hard-core? Thought that needs BG. Just curious
Flat 20G in HC, no PvP required.
What is the addon that tracks ennemies CD's?
Ziqo is a fool for Mak'gora at lvl 33. Rogues get blind at 34 and they come online with Prep + 2/2 Dirty Deeds at lvl 36.
Does that priest have a twitch ?
How do you get the pvp trinket btw?
20g
Sakuraba is known as the Gracie killer in MMA, Sara is the streamer killer in hardcore
Sara being SF with all the sticky glue and pvp trinket plus not to mention the ears. Yup.. super cool.
Does zeko have poisons applied to his weapons ? 🎉
I like how you started introducing gigachad in your terminology. shit is funny as fuck. makes it more fun
for such a talented player im shocked he has so much to learn for rogue
Every single opener that Ziqo did was complete shit. Don't try to build up combo points of sap at this level and he broke the sap anyway. Then he was not unable to open as he approached the priest from the direction the priest was facing. Then instead of sapping of the priest's shield Ziqo went and cheap shotted him instantly and lost damage to the shield. And now crippling poison, the priest was just running full speed around the whole fight. The priest though did excellent.
ziqo is a warlock main, right? he is playing what soda assigned to him for onlyfangz i'm pretty sure.
@@80AM. mage main
@@80AM. mage main
Mage brother@@80AM.
@@80AM.mage mage mage mage all day. What made you think he mains warlock out of curiosity?
wait what PvP trinket did the priest use? There is no honor system yet
You can buy it. They removed honor
Priest was good but they're running out of sticky glues fast lol
DUDE, I literally did RFK with this priest... Dude is self found and had 6 ears.
how does this work. Is this a special server or something? How can i play this also? Can someone pleaaase give me a clear explaination about this mode, how it works and how to play?
Two insane players
Fun to watch, nice commentary.
You can get a PvP trinket already?
Plot twist, the priest is xaryu
Camera was blocking debuffs
Is that hydra?
Cinematic duels are head to head, real duels are running around buildings and eating mid fight
Sara played really well. If just one of those kidneys didn’t resist or dodge, that could have ended in Ziqo’s favor.
Guild chat shortly after duel starts says he was dueling 'Infestor' on his Shadow Priest.
And thats why priest (shadows specifically) is the highest winrate 1v1 class with warlock being close 2nd
What Ziqo could have done better: When he had a dot and walked away, he shouldn't have eaten and let the priest catch up to him. Instead he should have walked until he could stealth, find a good spot and eat there. Not sure if that happened, but use WotF and then sprint to counter fear. Also when the priest had ~0% mana and he had ~50%+ health, he should have engaged.
But the priest played very well, although he wasted some mana, and was close to losing when he ran around with ~0% mana.
He did that a few times at the start. I think the reason he stopped LoS'ing and waiting for the dot to go away, was because he found it to be too cheesy. I dont have any other logical explanation, as when he did it in the start he made a full reset, and then later in the duel he would eat and let the priest catch up, instead of just keep running. Think it was purely a "honor" thing from him.
@@MrBa143maybe, or he was just trying to die. Literally baffled by some of his moves.
I get that Ziqo is a great mage and a player overall, but he totally messed up 3 openers and as a rogue, if you have a bad opener you lose 90% of time. Also against priest you have a very small window, where he doesn't have fear, shield and trinket. If you don't kill him in that window it's a loss.
Ok
Those sticky glues are a finite resource tho
Good match by both of them.
NO:1 rule- NEVER DUEL SHADOW PRIEST in 2005
Theres a maccro for CS without breaking sap Ziqo man 🤯
Well played GG
What was causing Ziqo to have his kidney/cheap shots get resisted and dodged so much? Was it just purely bad luck?
Priest does have access to a stun resist talent (15%?) something like that.
Unlucky either way though
ziqo not knowin how stealth works n not respectin distract was his doom, also priest played real nice n oh man those resists
oh boy the kidney resists and doges. I think if ziqo was sub he won though.
Was Z was straight up trying to die? So many basic missteps… does he just not play rogue or something?
He is a Mage
@ you’re high
ziqo is the best mage player in the world. so no, he does not play rogue :P
I need to go back to last years stream to see what ziqo ate for lunch to figure this out.
It was not a duel between Ziqo and Sara, but between Ziqo and Luck. In fact, if at least one resist had not been proc, everything could have ended differently. (Well, plus endless glue)
Can a hunter beat a priest like that? Or is priest just MVP 1v1?
Back to playing mage Bob
you macro /cancelattack into cheap shot and expose armour, not press escape after
Priest is the most broken 1v1 class at low levels. It gets so much of its utility kit early on and is very strong against rogue specifically with all its DoTs, it's so easy to keep them in combat and when Ziqo is trying to stealth/sap between ticks within 10yds it's a free fear for the priest. Ziqo got screwed with resists and dodges though so it would have been much closer if all his stuns actually landed.
Is Sara Hydra?
This girl a streamer? She’s a damn good priest
It's a dude playing a character named Sara
@@MostlyFish21is he cute tho
@@MostlyFish21 it’s a guy really? Playing a female character named Sara??
@@C_Griffy it's common practice amongst simps to play a female character with a female name to trick other people into thinking you're actually a girl in order to get free gold and carries.
@@MostlyFish21 ew that’s super super creepy. It is 2024 too though I guess. May just be in rainbow community? Idk
Out played 100% dang
Very good Priest
In wotlk you angle the character to not break sap with garrote or cs
He was getting feared too much. Just stealth and wait until he runs to other side then eat and pillar if needed until stealth comes up.
Why don't priest use Mind Flay? is it bad for pvp? i think MF would be much better for mana efficiency.
Probably wanted to have long duration swp, improved fear and reach. I was thinking of the same though.
its not luck when u have 5/5 in stun resist in disc tree
20% attack speed AND cleave
All those kidney resists makes this pretty unsatisfying. Makes it feel like luck turned an even duel cause 3/4 were resists or dodged
lol was not even close dude.. priest also finished with full HP lmao
3 kidneys resist?? WTF
Thanks for the link without your random comments. Oh wait, you didn't provide it. Leech.
Moral of the story....Ziqo doesn't play the rogue as well as the mage. Also stun resist is broken good.
This priest is so annoyingly good.
your death situation was different, and you shouldn't have asked to do it (send gold to hold) just do it. If there's no rule against it, you can't break it. When you bring light to it... you get it.
Sifu is that you?!
doing a mak'gora as combat rogue is just stupid LUL
bruh xar always stop the video RIGHT at the end and we don't see the reaction of the streamer, please xar... :/
You are taking this s*it with soda said this and soda said that, soda allowed this and that too far. You act like a corporate bunch, where Soda is the big boss and you all suck up to him. It's ridicilous and you are humiliationg yourselves.
guild leader makes the rules
woundman video
it's funny how streamers feel the need to glaze each other when reaction to a a video from them and feel extremely sad when a random wins over them and need to justify why they lose.. like holy f what an annoying type of people
Manchilds
Sara plays like someone i've seen before.
Snutz?
Where can I find Ziqo's video so I don't have to see Xaryu and his reaction. Do people care?
Guessing sara has the -stun talent
Most likely, or stupid lucky.
Regardless though, great plays.
great duel and commentary. rip
if he was not combat would have ended Diff honestly.
smart using a girls name, ppl are more likely to agree to the makgora 😂
rly sad for ziqo
Lost to Rng, nice game
Gouge doesn't take combo points...
lmao dont fan of rogues but when you dodge miss so many kidneys it sucks
I expected 2 full epic players go at it. What a bunch of noobs!
Pastordaddysf reincarnated
giggity
The priest resisted like half the stuns.
The rogue was garbage. He DID get unlucky but he lost cuz he lost.
Priest is also harder to kill for rogs, if the priest knows how to play
Maybe Sara was an Orc priest disguised as Undead ? 😅😂
Okay, many resists and stuff but still, killing ziqo means u can play your class
Why the are dueling on the place with lots of buildings to hide in? Why not on the clear field
Because that would be completely boring and one-sided. The priest automatically wins that. 100% of the time, even without consumables. Two fears and its over. No potential for outplay, no potential for LoS. No potential for any other outcome. It's a scripted instant loss for basically anything other than maybe a mage or a warlock to accept that duel.
No energy timer vs a good pvper in classic you die as a rogue. Timing openers and skills with say nugtimer makes a huge difference in classic if you know your roguecraft.
Imagine if Blizzard made an alternate retail version for Hardcore and reduce xp gained by like 90% and other tweaks like that, that'd be lit
whats the point of playing retail atp lad everything will be too easy due to current scaling youd just take ages to ding 80
like i prefer retail but the leveling would be a faceroll
Priest can literally just wand and save all mana for shield fear heal ..waste of mana using mb tbh...so not the best priest really. At that lvl the bfd wand with wand spec is op. Also the 3x using sticky glue...is what won it.
Like using a healthstone is kinda cheating though as priest never had one and rogue cant craft them its a earlock ability and he still lost haha amzing.
what are you talking about dude the priest used like 5 sticky glues
sara = advertise