PLEASE READ: IM SO SORRY! BRO I ACCIDENTALLY GAVE CHIHIRO A 1 I MEANT A 0 WHAT THE FUCK I JUST NOTICED WHAT 😭😭😭😭😭😭 also celeste a 0 i meant to give her a 7 😭 Also read the description
7:07: Mikan didn’t kill because she “snapped”. She caught the despair disease and remembered her brainwashing, causing her to revert back to her Ultimate Despair personality. I’m not entirely sure but based on how she admits to doing it for her “beloved” (I.e. Junko) and not just for the despair of killing, it’s possible she also remembered the Remnants’ plan to let themselves be put into the Neo World Program and then “die” whilst inside, so Alter Ego Junko can inhabit their comatose bodies. In that case, Mikan may have been trying to progress the plan by killing Ibuki and then, as luck would have it, Hiyoko too, thus preparing 2 more bodies for later possession by AI Junko.
It wasn't even Mikan, it was Remnant Mikan who's more like an evil split-personality For all the blood on The Remnants' hands, there's even more on Junko's for manipulating them
@@Xeorboom Yeah well, that’s why I still agree with the assessment that Mikan didn’t deserve what happened to her. Junko’s pretty much responsible for all the Remnants’ actions for the reason you stated. They just fell into her trap.
@@justinjakeashton I don’t think the symptoms of the disease had fully kicked in yet. She may not have reverted to Despair Mikan until the following day.
I like how outside of the masterminds characters(junko, her sister and tsumugi), korekiyo is the most deserved pain character in this list, Poor korekiyo he's my favorite character :( honestly his sister deserved more pain >:( (edit: Fight me, i know some of you say this is headcanon but honestly it isn't)
Uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh...I hope you an only child (no offense) :(
Kiyo is like Jojo Siwa: Hated, even though it wasn't their fault. Bite me, I think Jojo's "freedom" arc was definitely not from her own command. She was corrupted from her mother as much as Kiyo was corrupted by his sister.
2:38 idk but that doesn't sound completely right to me. I mean yes Celeste is considered one of those cold-blooded characters but there's just no way a human being can feel this little EP and MP in a KG, especially that Celeste is mentally sane unlike Junko or whatever. she wasn't that close to the cast but I think she was just as abandoned in her life as Taka, Miu, etc. she prolly was sad her death moments too, seeing her dream break right in front of her (just like every other character) 4:11 again, no matter how cold Kyoko is there's just no way her EP is 0. plus she had some PP moments, well not that much but still 6:28 once more, just HOW 0 7:22 Nekomaru is really emotionally strong, but again and again he's a human after all, especially being a teenager ofc he'd suffer a lotta EP so definitely not 0 7:38 god wdym Gundham had 0 EP 7:53 it only makes sense for her to have 1 EP if you're talking abt in game Chiaki cuz she's a bot, but if we're talking abt anime Chiaki she definitely suffered a lotta EP 11:21 same thing as Nekomaru, Kaito is really emotionally strong but he definitely suffered more than just 1 EP 11:48 Kirumi is just like Peko, she might seem as if she's so selfless almost like an emotionless body, but i believe she was emotionally hurt a lot during and outta the KG 13:15 Tsumugi is really obsessed and is the MM so it makes sense at the first sight to think she's just like Junko, but outside that role Tsumugi felt useless and was harassed for her looks and had a lotta stress on her by the fans, so i think she suffered a little MP and EP 13:26 technically as a robot he can't feel, he's just programmed. so in a scientific side, this is true. but if we forget the fact that he's a robot, Kiibo went through a lot, like the trauma when knowing that the voice guided him was the audience that wanted his friends dead and etc 13:34 Angie also appears to be pretty careless, but she still attempted to protect her friends from the KG so she obv felt kind of EP and MP 14:15 (this'll have a lotta yap) Miu definitely had a lot more EP and PP. Miu was one of the weakest characters emotionally, I'd even say she was like Sayaka. if yk Miu's character well you'll notice that she's rlly fragile, plus being abandoned made her not realize what's wrong to do and what's not. not babying her ofc, but Miu definitely showed that she doesn't know her actions hurt, except for attempting murder which she did with full awareness. her motive drove her insane, just like Sayaka and Kirumi, she just wanted to save her ppl and world out there. and even tho no one rlly cared for her and tried to correct her actions GENTLY throughout the KG she still chose Kokichi of all ppl to kill. not cuz she hates him, but cuz the others hated him, and she didn't wanna kill a loved one to the others in case she got caught. and if you're gonna say "but she tried to frame Kaito", well that's completely correct, but i believe that only made sense cuz Kaito SEEMED to hate Kokichi. and she knows framing Maki wouldn't be a great choice, so Kaito was the only one in her face. and abt "harassing her classmates", she never expressed any actual sexual attraction towards any character but Shuichi since he cared for her. now was what she did to Shuichi disgusting? yup. was she aware it was? no. and falling in love with Shuichi from the start shows her unawareness. he only treated her like a friend, but she was so unused to it that she thought she was in love with him. as for PP, Miu's death was one of the slowest, she felt every sec of it. Ig that's all for Miu rn 14:49 Rantaro handled a lot even if he died so early, let's not forget he was in another KG. he definitely suffered more PP and EP than we're aware of that's all i have, plz add any character/thing you have in replies :)
I don't think that just because a character had good intentions doesn't mean that character didn't deserve their pain if they do bad actions. Kirigiri almost caused Naegi execution and Kokichi sacrified Gonta and Miu almost makes everyone commit suicide. They deserve at least a five of the pain.
I mean, it outweighs some of the bad things they did if they had good intent, kaito was an toxic positive throughout the game but always had good intent and we see how it ended up with shuichi
@@YourFavoriteNPC It would depend of the result and also the bad actions. Maybe Kirigiri would go a 2, but Kokichi almost caused a massive suicide and his plan wouldn't even have worked even if he win the trial. The six trial starts by revealing that Tsumugi cheated and if Kokichi's theory was correct the KG should have stop there but it didn't. So I would still put him in a five.
@@joseleonardofarfanperez2838 Pretty sure it would have worked, also blame Shuichi for wanting the truth of the outside world so bad from Kokichi in the chapter prior
@@Super-7327 Nobody wanted the truth of the outside world until Kokichi give them the electrohammers. It was his fault. And I already said why it didn't worked, why would a bunch of psychos would stop their entertainment just bevause the mastermind cheated? For an sport spirit of playing fair?
She was in her own world the entire time so it makes sense lol. Plus she was knocked out cold and killed while she was still unconscious so it makes sense she felt no physical pain either
Bro im being fr i shouldnt be allowed to cook for a whole week bro what was i cooking 😭😭😭 it was 3am i was so tired but i had to finish it im so sorry bro i gave 2 characters the wrong ranking (chihiro anc celeste)
@@LivvyTube24 but what Nagito and Kokichi did was very based. Being a femboy is super cringe. On a serious note. Npc made a comment saying that he put a 1 by accident. He also said that he meant to give Celeste a 7.
After my grandpa and his whole thing with frontotemporal dementia, I learned some stuff, and I can say that I feel HORRIBLE for the fact that Nagito has to deal with that.
Mikan deserved alot of pain: she SA’d Nagito in the manga she sexually harrassed hajime (game) and sexually harrassed peko ryota and ultimate imposter (anime) but I will admit the bullying was way uncalled for I also think that Korekiyo didn’t deserve how much pain he got since he was manipulated and abused to be with his sister but he did r/pe shuichi and kill 100 girls for his sister he killed for a person who never really loved him but he is still a killer and a r/pist
@@MahouMell__ kiyo did it in the love hotel thing search it up and Mikan really did do all that you can find pictures of the manga of Mikan doing it she slept ontop of hajime she stripped for ultimate imposter when no one wanted her to do that and just look up the stuff with peko and ryota I don’t wanna type it
the only one who truly deserves their pain is Ruruka the only 3 things she didn't deserve were Seiko, Sonosuke and an offscreen death I also feel like Mukuro didn't deserve so much. She's not emotionless because it's her personailty, she's emotionless because of the abuse Junko put her through for most of their life and fear of being killed herself... it's a selfish reason but I feel like people seem to forget just how much emotional torture Mukuro has been in... Also, *Sato did nothing wrong!*
Only ones who truly deserved pain were the masterminds (Junko, Mukuru, Tsumugi.) Everyone else were literal teenagers thrown into an extremely stressful life or death situation. And with the exception of maybe Kiyo & Celeste, everyone's bad actions were out of self defense, concern for others, or the pressure of the killing game, not because they're bad people. The remnants of Despair were literally brainwashed, they had no control over their Despair versions actions, so Mikan does not count.
Some questionable rankings aside, I unfortunately have to say that certain details, to me at least, seem poorly researched. I read the community post about Celeste and Chihiro, but there are plenty of others that just seem kinda off explanation wise. Not to mention the "they had good intentions, so they deserve no pain" way of thinking. Because for one most characters from their own perpective would see themselves as having good intentions, so what's objectively good intentions? You can argue Miu had good intentions since her motivation was essentially the same as Kirumi, wanting to get out to help people believing only she with her talent can save them... but looking at the entire thing it sure doesn't seem like her intention matters here, it's inconsistent. Way I see it, anyone consciously and willingly killing someone can not be at a zero of deserved pain. This does remove characters like Kaito who were blackmailed and Chiaki who didn't even know what she did would kill someone, but I can't look at Kyoko, Kokichi and Nagito and excuse their actions under the believe of good intentions. By that logic Sayaka only wanted her band mates to be safe and without knowing about the class trial she thought killing one person to exchange their life for four is justified. And there are plenty of other inconsistencies in logic. Like all the remnants being terrorists, granted brain washed terrorists, but if we're talking brainwashed all V3 characters were brainwashed by the flashback lights, so none of their actions are really themselves, also same with their made up backstories and suddenly this entire thing becomes a debate of cherry picking details to consider as real or relevant, sometimes a mental state or intention is weirdly ignored or forgotten, so many things just feel off and don't get me started on the scores on what actual pain they felt... because if I go into detail I'll be here all week. What I'm trying to say is... you were right in your community post, this certainly is a video idea that blew up in your face and while I like being a contrarian and would love to defend all this, my better judgement can't let me do that.
Junko and Tsmugi didn’t deserved to be crushed not being tormented and yes I know that junko went through all the executions but it didn’t look like she felt any pain! SO THEY DESERVE WORSE
In my opinion mukuro is 5-7 she alsodid have emotions she wasn't aware of them because of how she was brought up but she at least cared for makoto as we see in if and the talent developedmemt plan amd i like toth8nk she alsocared forthe rest of the dr1 cast she was just not really aware of it and i think her breakout in the end that killed her was her showing a but of emotion also most things she did was because junko was emotionally manipulating her. Hifumi I'll be completely honestly deserves everything he got he killed taka with almost no remorse just because celeste told him he stole his waifu no mercy for him if anything he deserved worst If we're giving hajime high points for what kamakura did than we should also give the rest of the dr2 cast shit for what they did as ultimate despairs hajime wasn't himself back than kamakura literally took over his brain and he overcame kamakura after dr2 that's what the whole super sayian hajime was about in the last trail
@@Foçalors-x9q oh yeah that too. Sayaka's dominant hand was broken and she was already too scared so I doubt she'd attempt murder again even if she healed. let's not forget that Sayaka really is the fragile girl she appears to be, both physically and emotionally. Sayaka woulda learned from her lesson and maybe trusted Makoto's words this time. Sayaka was put on the edge cuz she wasn't sure if her group died or not, if she knew they did she woulda just gave up on attempting murder. on top of that, even if she succeeded in killing Leon, I doubt she'd continue the trial without breaking down and confessing, especially when she realizes she's putting Makoto's and everyone's lives on the edge too. she truly loved Makoto and wrote 11037 just to protect him after her death
@@kaitomomotaontop I MEANNNNNNNN we aren't entirely sure that she really cared for him and that is why she put that note. It's whay kyoko and Makoto discussed and like, free time events do suggest that Sakaka did care, but again, she was manipulating Makoto right under his nose to save herself. We can't exactly say for certain what if anything was the truth of her feelings since she's already dead, and all we could do is speculate. In all honesty though I am way more of a Sayaka appologist than a Leon one. Most of the arguments towards Leon not deserving his fate are much more far-fetched and have way more leeps in logic Imo. Just trying to like keep the discussion more towards like what we know for certain or can logically conclude from the game rather than personal headcanons.
@@WhyteOwt you got a great point too, but I'd like to think that Sayaka truly did it to save Makoto instead of taking revenge or smt. yes we still don't know, I wish we did tho. plus we don't know what she thought the KG system was since it wasn't explained to her so we can't say for sure if she was tryna completely manipulate Makoto or had smt else behind that. anyway I'm just interested in knowing what was in Sayaka's and Leon's minds at the moment besides my love for them :)
@@kaitomomotaontop Some food for thought i was just considering. Kaede's case in V3 sorta feels like "what if Sayaka managed to succeed in her murder?" The way their characters are pretty similar and Danganronpa being pretty well known for retelling similar cases with a twists.
14:46 Sorry, but Maki deserves atleast 5 for a lot of her actions throughout the killing game, including being somewhat responsible for the death of 2 people. Yes, she did suffer a lot of emotional and mental pain, but that still doesn't fully justify it.
Bro Fuyuhiko was a Yakuza and his sister was literally Mahirus bully and he took it out of her when it was her friend that did the deed and it was to save Mahiru from the bullying. A lot of people like him but just because of the reason Peko killed Mahiru for him is insane, also he killed the girl that killed his sister in cold blood like bro your sister was a bully they did it for a reason your literally part of the Yakuza and you're family has killed innocent people and I don't see you worried about that. He's such a hypocrite. He definitely deserved at least a little bit of pain for killing people and literally being part of the Yakuza
It was a mistake like npc pointed it out, but a 7 (what he wanted to give her) according to him is still even too low tbh, i would give her atleast an 8 or 9
These are just shitty i should be honest with my entire feelings like lots of these characters never deserved pain like just bc Some of them did the best things never means they did not deserve pain, you just put half of the characters 💔
@@s4nr1o. cuz he made me confused. In the second chapter of Dangantonpa 2 I realized Nagito Komaeda was an anagram for Makoto Naegi (Makoto Naegi da), and then, untill the end of the game, I thought Nagito was Makoto
@@OndorFake ok but he couldn’t really control his actions so like… it wasn’t his fault. His disease made him view everything differently. In his messed up twisted view, he was trying to help everyone.
i just really hate maki but still love her so much. she didnt deserve any of her pain but her taking most out on kokichi was just wrong. some of the things she did were for a reason but why did she hate him so much she tried to kill him? i've never played the game so pardon if im wrong but all kokichi did was lie and all that other bad stuff. however, maki still had hate for kokichi for getting kaito killed even though she knew it was for the best. but still he ended up dying for nothing. (no this is not me getting mad cuz kokichi is my "favorite character" but this is my honest opinion so pls dont hate
@@frisku.u5279 righh i love kokichi but he can be a bit too dramatic, still she should not have shot him with a POISON arrow, she pissed me off ever since chapter 3 tbh
me trying to figure out why kork got a 9: is it because he murdered 99 women? but wasnt that because he wanted his sister to have 100 friends? wasnt he also abused into loving his sister?
@@frisku.u5279 its the manipulation part, im pretty sure kiyo is mentally insane! in bleach aizen manipulated hinamori into murdering toshiro because of her lowly state. ik this is random but this is kinda the vibe im getting
@@YourFavoriteNPC mukuro suffered emotional damage because she had to live with junko “fucking” enoshima so i’d give her a 7 there, deserved tbh. junko should’ve gotten 9 for physical because ultimate punishment, and mondo deserves the pain more than hifumi because at least hifumi was manipulated by celeste. andrew tate should’ve gotten less deserved pain than mondo because he at least didn’t commit any murders. (removed the part about celeste) teruteru didn’t do any murders of his own volition that weren’t in the kg (junko mindfuck) so he deserves less than mondo but because he tries to drug people to have sex with them but at least he doesn’t murder them, i’d give him a 4. tsumoogs didn’t do nuthin free my girl fr tl;dr oil up ill be there in 5 minutes
@@PrinnyCG Tbh I think he was just trying to get her out of her shell and understand her. He wasn't selfish. If he got the trial wrong EVERYONE but the killer would die, I don't think it's selfish wanting to live. Everyone has different interpertations though!
Tbh i dont even think that mikan was actually bullied, yeah she said it but hiyoko also said the reason why she bully mikan is because she is fake and lying for attention
I Feel Like This Has Been Reposted. I Know For A Fact That I Watched A Video That Has The Same Exact Topic As This A Couple Months Ago Edit:I KNEW IT! I FREAKEN KNEW IT!
Also, something that is untrue for Celeste is that she had 0 regard for human life. She claimed that she killed for her dream and that she feels nothing about killing others but she was lying. Right when she gives the key to Alter Ego’s location she says “Will it really give you the hope you’re looking for? I can’t say I saw it that way. Which is why … Actually, it’s not important.” This shows that she killed out of despair and not greed and that she never wanted to kill anyone.
This is a little dubious. At best, it shows that Celeste's despair also had a role to play. That doesn't necessarily mean that she feels empathy for what she's done. And how Hifumi was treated doesn't make things any better.
PLEASE READ: IM SO SORRY! BRO I ACCIDENTALLY GAVE CHIHIRO A 1 I MEANT A 0 WHAT THE FUCK I JUST NOTICED WHAT 😭😭😭😭😭😭
also celeste a 0 i meant to give her a 7 😭
Also read the description
It is okay npc just don’t do it again ❤️
Yeah dude
It’s ok we forgive you my favorite npc ❤️ (just don’t do it again) 🥰
Is this a repost I remember this video?
@@sillydragons.1no read the description
Leon actually being analyzed instead of just saying “AHO AHO AHO”. Where’s the real NPC
Im having character development rn bro 😤
@@YourFavoriteNPCUndo it.
@@YourFavoriteNPC cap, we know your just an impersonator
Poor Ryoma. He was already suffering from depression but then to be shown that no one he cares for is still alive, man...
7:07: Mikan didn’t kill because she “snapped”. She caught the despair disease and remembered her brainwashing, causing her to revert back to her Ultimate Despair personality.
I’m not entirely sure but based on how she admits to doing it for her “beloved” (I.e. Junko) and not just for the despair of killing, it’s possible she also remembered the Remnants’ plan to let themselves be put into the Neo World Program and then “die” whilst inside, so Alter Ego Junko can inhabit their comatose bodies. In that case, Mikan may have been trying to progress the plan by killing Ibuki and then, as luck would have it, Hiyoko too, thus preparing 2 more bodies for later possession by AI Junko.
It wasn't even Mikan, it was Remnant Mikan who's more like an evil split-personality
For all the blood on The Remnants' hands, there's even more on Junko's for manipulating them
@@Xeorboom Yeah well, that’s why I still agree with the assessment that Mikan didn’t deserve what happened to her. Junko’s pretty much responsible for all the Remnants’ actions for the reason you stated. They just fell into her trap.
@@bodabodapasta1500 and people seem to forget that Mikan wasn't the only one who got corrupted and was FAR from the worst!
Makes you question why she didn't just off Hajime in the several opportunities she had instead of sleeping on top of him.
@@justinjakeashton I don’t think the symptoms of the disease had fully kicked in yet. She may not have reverted to Despair Mikan until the following day.
I honestly think that the only ones that deserved some pain were Junko, Mukuro and Tsumugi.
What about Korekiyo? That man was literally a serial killer
@@nameunknown2226his sister was when he was young and he became one
Igorlopes just to let you know mukuro was hypnotized by junko and i fully respect your opinion.
@@nameunknown2226I agree, korekiyo was literally a serial killer that killed around 100 people
He did not for own purpose! His sister feels lonely...This is why she is killing them...To Make her revcive friends.
Bro is cooking with the upload schedule, I mean, this videos are very well edited.
Bro i am sleep deprived i need a break but im gonna keep cooking since kaito would want me to do the same thing
@@YourFavoriteNPC real
I like how outside of the masterminds characters(junko, her sister and tsumugi), korekiyo is the most deserved pain character in this list,
Poor korekiyo he's my favorite character :( honestly his sister deserved more pain >:(
(edit: Fight me, i know some of you say this is headcanon but honestly it isn't)
Uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh...I hope you an only child (no offense) :(
Kiyo is like Jojo Siwa: Hated, even though it wasn't their fault.
Bite me, I think Jojo's "freedom" arc was definitely not from her own command. She was corrupted from her mother as much as Kiyo was corrupted by his sister.
@@autumn_sundayOh absolutely! I 100% blame Jojo’s mom. Hell I blame her more than Abby Lee Miller
2:38 idk but that doesn't sound completely right to me. I mean yes Celeste is considered one of those cold-blooded characters but there's just no way a human being can feel this little EP and MP in a KG, especially that Celeste is mentally sane unlike Junko or whatever. she wasn't that close to the cast but I think she was just as abandoned in her life as Taka, Miu, etc. she prolly was sad her death moments too, seeing her dream break right in front of her (just like every other character)
4:11 again, no matter how cold Kyoko is there's just no way her EP is 0. plus she had some PP moments, well not that much but still
6:28 once more, just HOW 0
7:22 Nekomaru is really emotionally strong, but again and again he's a human after all, especially being a teenager ofc he'd suffer a lotta EP so definitely not 0
7:38 god wdym Gundham had 0 EP
7:53 it only makes sense for her to have 1 EP if you're talking abt in game Chiaki cuz she's a bot, but if we're talking abt anime Chiaki she definitely suffered a lotta EP
11:21 same thing as Nekomaru, Kaito is really emotionally strong but he definitely suffered more than just 1 EP
11:48 Kirumi is just like Peko, she might seem as if she's so selfless almost like an emotionless body, but i believe she was emotionally hurt a lot during and outta the KG
13:15 Tsumugi is really obsessed and is the MM so it makes sense at the first sight to think she's just like Junko, but outside that role Tsumugi felt useless and was harassed for her looks and had a lotta stress on her by the fans, so i think she suffered a little MP and EP
13:26 technically as a robot he can't feel, he's just programmed. so in a scientific side, this is true. but if we forget the fact that he's a robot, Kiibo went through a lot, like the trauma when knowing that the voice guided him was the audience that wanted his friends dead and etc
13:34 Angie also appears to be pretty careless, but she still attempted to protect her friends from the KG so she obv felt kind of EP and MP
14:15 (this'll have a lotta yap) Miu definitely had a lot more EP and PP. Miu was one of the weakest characters emotionally, I'd even say she was like Sayaka. if yk Miu's character well you'll notice that she's rlly fragile, plus being abandoned made her not realize what's wrong to do and what's not. not babying her ofc, but Miu definitely showed that she doesn't know her actions hurt, except for attempting murder which she did with full awareness. her motive drove her insane, just like Sayaka and Kirumi, she just wanted to save her ppl and world out there. and even tho no one rlly cared for her and tried to correct her actions GENTLY throughout the KG she still chose Kokichi of all ppl to kill. not cuz she hates him, but cuz the others hated him, and she didn't wanna kill a loved one to the others in case she got caught. and if you're gonna say "but she tried to frame Kaito", well that's completely correct, but i believe that only made sense cuz Kaito SEEMED to hate Kokichi. and she knows framing Maki wouldn't be a great choice, so Kaito was the only one in her face. and abt "harassing her classmates", she never expressed any actual sexual attraction towards any character but Shuichi since he cared for her. now was what she did to Shuichi disgusting? yup. was she aware it was? no. and falling in love with Shuichi from the start shows her unawareness. he only treated her like a friend, but she was so unused to it that she thought she was in love with him. as for PP, Miu's death was one of the slowest, she felt every sec of it. Ig that's all for Miu rn
14:49 Rantaro handled a lot even if he died so early, let's not forget he was in another KG. he definitely suffered more PP and EP than we're aware of
that's all i have, plz add any character/thing you have in replies :)
You opened my eyes to a lot of things i haven’t considered, thank you for this comment bro. Will use this info while making videos for future videos
@@YourFavoriteNPC it's no big deal tho. glad to hear this helped tho :)
ARIANA WHAT ARE YOU DOING HERE-
@@riccardodinunzio9078 UHHH-
"kyoko had some PP moments" yooooo bro😭🙏
I don't think that just because a character had good intentions doesn't mean that character didn't deserve their pain if they do bad actions. Kirigiri almost caused Naegi execution and Kokichi sacrified Gonta and Miu almost makes everyone commit suicide. They deserve at least a five of the pain.
I mean, it outweighs some of the bad things they did if they had good intent, kaito was an toxic positive throughout the game but always had good intent and we see how it ended up with shuichi
@@YourFavoriteNPC It would depend of the result and also the bad actions. Maybe Kirigiri would go a 2, but Kokichi almost caused a massive suicide and his plan wouldn't even have worked even if he win the trial. The six trial starts by revealing that Tsumugi cheated and if Kokichi's theory was correct the KG should have stop there but it didn't. So I would still put him in a five.
@@YourFavoriteNPC But still Makoto was completely trying to save Kirigiri but she completely threw him under the bus, so she at least deserves a 1
@@joseleonardofarfanperez2838
Pretty sure it would have worked, also blame Shuichi for wanting the truth of the outside world so bad from Kokichi in the chapter prior
@@Super-7327 Nobody wanted the truth of the outside world until Kokichi give them the electrohammers. It was his fault. And I already said why it didn't worked, why would a bunch of psychos would stop their entertainment just bevause the mastermind cheated? For an sport spirit of playing fair?
14:32 Makoto: Why are you laughing? You laughing, bro? You trying to laugh? You think this is funny? Let me show you something funny!
Angie getting a 0 on literally everything, you love to see it
She was in her own world the entire time so it makes sense lol. Plus she was knocked out cold and killed while she was still unconscious so it makes sense she felt no physical pain either
@@zeospark9715 Very happy either way, i'd probably hate to see her suffer
12:18 Kork looks like he's holding his name in his hand. I'm sorry.
IT DOES 😭
I personally believe that only Junko, Mukuro, and Tsumugi completely deserved all the pain they got as they are irredeemable monsters.
Ryoma deserves better. 😣
eh, no sayaka had a broken wrist remember after the sword hit. specifically her right wrist.
Bro im being fr i shouldnt be allowed to cook for a whole week bro what was i cooking 😭😭😭 it was 3am i was so tired but i had to finish it im so sorry bro i gave 2 characters the wrong ranking (chihiro anc celeste)
@@YourFavoriteNPC dw bro you're not blamed at all. you still got most of the characters rankings pretty accurately
@@kaitomomotaontopthank you kaito 🙏 means a lot
@@YourFavoriteNPC it's nothing really :)
WTF DID CHIHIRO DO TO DESERVE PAIN BRO
@@LivvyTube24 be a femboy.
@@somethingclever4297ain't no way Kokichi and Nagito don't deserve pain when Chihiro does just for being a femboy 😭🙏
@@LivvyTube24 but what Nagito and Kokichi did was very based. Being a femboy is super cringe.
On a serious note. Npc made a comment saying that he put a 1 by accident. He also said that he meant to give Celeste a 7.
@@somethingclever4297 Ah, gotcha, that's what I figured. Just funny
@@somethingclever4297 @livvytube24 yeah it was indeed a mistake, chihiro legit did nothing wrong and deserves a 0 while celestia deserves ATLEAST a 7
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I am gonna get so cooked in the comments 😭
after reading like 20% of the comments, I can indeed confirm you're getting called out wayy too much
So glad to read that chihiro and celestia’s ranking were mistakes and npc meant to give them a 0 and 7 ❤️
Celestia deserved what she got
I can recognize this and still love goth mommy, though
damn made me realize more about danganronpa characters
3:38 ANDREW TATE?? LMAO DON'T INSULT BYAKUYA LIKE THAT...
13:29 You do realize he'll take you to court for that right?
😂
HELP KAEDE IN THE BEE COSTUMW IM CRYING
It's so cute 🥹
@JPCoralz ya like jazz?
7:13 and even then it was because of the despair disease
13:21 finally… I have been waiting for this miracle to happen
After my grandpa and his whole thing with frontotemporal dementia, I learned some stuff, and I can say that I feel HORRIBLE for the fact that Nagito has to deal with that.
Nagito is interesting... he's been through a lot but he's also kind of evil
overall, he's a brilliantly written antagonist!
@@Xeorboom yeah ! But I still feel bad for him cuz. Grandfather
Byakuyas backstory is more complex and he endured some hard stuff but i dont wanna sit an hour telling his whole backstory and analyzing it
5:26 isntant pause, yeah fair enough
How do we know it’s NPC?
He insists on calling Leon 11037😂
Mikan deserved alot of pain: she SA’d Nagito in the manga she sexually harrassed hajime (game) and sexually harrassed peko ryota and ultimate imposter (anime) but I will admit the bullying was way uncalled for I also think that Korekiyo didn’t deserve how much pain he got since he was manipulated and abused to be with his sister but he did r/pe shuichi and kill 100 girls for his sister he killed for a person who never really loved him but he is still a killer and a r/pist
Kiyo and Mikan never did that
@@MahouMell__ kiyo did it in the love hotel thing search it up and Mikan really did do all that you can find pictures of the manga of Mikan doing it she slept ontop of hajime she stripped for ultimate imposter when no one wanted her to do that and just look up the stuff with peko and ryota I don’t wanna type it
Heh honestly im pretty sure she had a Fake personnality and tell lies about herself to get attention, hiyoko clocked it
@@Iam29941 but what is your point about that?
@@ArtisticKira stop lying BOTH of them are innocent
the only one who truly deserves their pain is Ruruka
the only 3 things she didn't deserve were Seiko, Sonosuke and an offscreen death
I also feel like Mukuro didn't deserve so much. She's not emotionless because it's her personailty, she's emotionless because of the abuse Junko put her through for most of their life and fear of being killed herself... it's a selfish reason but I feel like people seem to forget just how much emotional torture Mukuro has been in...
Also, *Sato did nothing wrong!*
1:21 wth is this photo. Also 7:12 MIKAN killed Hiyoko because Hiyoko saw the murder MIKAN did on IBUKI and could snitch on MIKAN
fym no emotional pain for Kirigiri wtf
I felt so much emotional pain when Chiaki literally turned into a human pincushion
GOTTA LOVE HOW JUNKO GETS NO EXPLANATION LMAO
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14:14 ah yes, keiji, the best danganronpa character.
Bro i really wish kokichi and nagito didn't die ;-;
Only ones who truly deserved pain were the masterminds (Junko, Mukuru, Tsumugi.) Everyone else were literal teenagers thrown into an extremely stressful life or death situation. And with the exception of maybe Kiyo & Celeste, everyone's bad actions were out of self defense, concern for others, or the pressure of the killing game, not because they're bad people. The remnants of Despair were literally brainwashed, they had no control over their Despair versions actions, so Mikan does not count.
Like how...out of every single fucking person in the trilogy...the fucking CULTIST IS DEEMED THE MOST RATIONAL!
I think Angie is the only character in the entire series to not have an "angry sprite" lol
leons execution was 5 minutes?😭
ryoma's deserved pain : 0
That should get turned into a negative because that was lowkey a dick move Monokuma did to bro.
@@WanderingMyth nah cuz fr
Some questionable rankings aside, I unfortunately have to say that certain details, to me at least, seem poorly researched.
I read the community post about Celeste and Chihiro, but there are plenty of others that just seem kinda off explanation wise.
Not to mention the "they had good intentions, so they deserve no pain" way of thinking. Because for one most characters from their own perpective would see themselves as having good intentions, so what's objectively good intentions? You can argue Miu had good intentions since her motivation was essentially the same as Kirumi, wanting to get out to help people believing only she with her talent can save them... but looking at the entire thing it sure doesn't seem like her intention matters here, it's inconsistent.
Way I see it, anyone consciously and willingly killing someone can not be at a zero of deserved pain. This does remove characters like Kaito who were blackmailed and Chiaki who didn't even know what she did would kill someone, but I can't look at Kyoko, Kokichi and Nagito and excuse their actions under the believe of good intentions. By that logic Sayaka only wanted her band mates to be safe and without knowing about the class trial she thought killing one person to exchange their life for four is justified.
And there are plenty of other inconsistencies in logic.
Like all the remnants being terrorists, granted brain washed terrorists, but if we're talking brainwashed all V3 characters were brainwashed by the flashback lights, so none of their actions are really themselves, also same with their made up backstories and suddenly this entire thing becomes a debate of cherry picking details to consider as real or relevant, sometimes a mental state or intention is weirdly ignored or forgotten, so many things just feel off and don't get me started on the scores on what actual pain they felt... because if I go into detail I'll be here all week.
What I'm trying to say is... you were right in your community post, this certainly is a video idea that blew up in your face and while I like being a contrarian and would love to defend all this, my better judgement can't let me do that.
9:32 BOSS BABY
Junko and Tsmugi didn’t deserved to be crushed not being tormented and yes I know that junko went through all the executions but it didn’t look like she felt any pain! SO THEY DESERVE WORSE
In my opinion mukuro is 5-7 she alsodid have emotions she wasn't aware of them because of how she was brought up but she at least cared for makoto as we see in if and the talent developedmemt plan amd i like toth8nk she alsocared forthe rest of the dr1 cast she was just not really aware of it and i think her breakout in the end that killed her was her showing a but of emotion also most things she did was because junko was emotionally manipulating her.
Hifumi I'll be completely honestly deserves everything he got he killed taka with almost no remorse just because celeste told him he stole his waifu no mercy for him if anything he deserved worst
If we're giving hajime high points for what kamakura did than we should also give the rest of the dr2 cast shit for what they did as ultimate despairs hajime wasn't himself back than kamakura literally took over his brain and he overcame kamakura after dr2 that's what the whole super sayian hajime was about in the last trail
10:45 HER FRIEND'S DEATH?? I'M PROBABLY JUST BEING SLOW BUT
Why did this pop up only 1 hour
The thing abt sayaka going after someone else is your assumption because I doubt she would've
@@Foçalors-x9q oh yeah that too. Sayaka's dominant hand was broken and she was already too scared so I doubt she'd attempt murder again even if she healed. let's not forget that Sayaka really is the fragile girl she appears to be, both physically and emotionally. Sayaka woulda learned from her lesson and maybe trusted Makoto's words this time. Sayaka was put on the edge cuz she wasn't sure if her group died or not, if she knew they did she woulda just gave up on attempting murder. on top of that, even if she succeeded in killing Leon, I doubt she'd continue the trial without breaking down and confessing, especially when she realizes she's putting Makoto's and everyone's lives on the edge too. she truly loved Makoto and wrote 11037 just to protect him after her death
@@kaitomomotaontop I MEANNNNNNNN we aren't entirely sure that she really cared for him and that is why she put that note. It's whay kyoko and Makoto discussed and like, free time events do suggest that Sakaka did care, but again, she was manipulating Makoto right under his nose to save herself. We can't exactly say for certain what if anything was the truth of her feelings since she's already dead, and all we could do is speculate. In all honesty though I am way more of a Sayaka appologist than a Leon one. Most of the arguments towards Leon not deserving his fate are much more far-fetched and have way more leeps in logic Imo. Just trying to like keep the discussion more towards like what we know for certain or can logically conclude from the game rather than personal headcanons.
@@WhyteOwt you got a great point too, but I'd like to think that Sayaka truly did it to save Makoto instead of taking revenge or smt. yes we still don't know, I wish we did tho. plus we don't know what she thought the KG system was since it wasn't explained to her so we can't say for sure if she was tryna completely manipulate Makoto or had smt else behind that. anyway I'm just interested in knowing what was in Sayaka's and Leon's minds at the moment besides my love for them :)
@@kaitomomotaontop Some food for thought i was just considering. Kaede's case in V3 sorta feels like "what if Sayaka managed to succeed in her murder?" The way their characters are pretty similar and Danganronpa being pretty well known for retelling similar cases with a twists.
I think she would've. She was clearly desperate to get out.
14:46 Sorry, but Maki deserves atleast 5 for a lot of her actions throughout the killing game, including being somewhat responsible for the death of 2 people. Yes, she did suffer a lot of emotional and mental pain, but that still doesn't fully justify it.
Bro Fuyuhiko was a Yakuza and his sister was literally Mahirus bully and he took it out of her when it was her friend that did the deed and it was to save Mahiru from the bullying. A lot of people like him but just because of the reason Peko killed Mahiru for him is insane, also he killed the girl that killed his sister in cold blood like bro your sister was a bully they did it for a reason your literally part of the Yakuza and you're family has killed innocent people and I don't see you worried about that. He's such a hypocrite. He definitely deserved at least a little bit of pain for killing people and literally being part of the Yakuza
I'm kind of surprised Celeste got 0 for deserved pain despite having caused the death of two others out of greed. It was a good video though
OMG I MEANT TO GIVE HER A 7 😭 WHAT HAPPENED DURING EDITING
It was a mistake like npc pointed it out, but a 7 (what he wanted to give her) according to him is still even too low tbh, i would give her atleast an 8 or 9
@@YourFavoriteNPC it's ok dude. We've all been there
I think the only ones who deserved it were
Junko, Mukuro, Tsumugi, and Toko
I was also gonna say korekiyo but… v3 is…
The only kokichi fan i can (kinda) tolerate
These are just shitty i should be honest with my entire feelings like lots of these characters never deserved pain like just bc Some of them did the best things never means they did not deserve pain, you just put half of the characters 💔
Nagito deserved more pain
Cuz yeah
@@OndorFake cuz what
@@s4nr1o. cuz he made me confused. In the second chapter of Dangantonpa 2 I realized Nagito Komaeda was an anagram for Makoto Naegi (Makoto Naegi da), and then, untill the end of the game, I thought Nagito was Makoto
@@OndorFake ok but he couldn’t really control his actions so like… it wasn’t his fault. His disease made him view everything differently. In his messed up twisted view, he was trying to help everyone.
@@Everythingart2010 I'm just confused at his name, it's a joke
Tbh I probably disagree with like 80% of the ratings. But nice video ☕️
How did Chihiro diservet 1 pain? When thank to him Makoto, kirigiry Aoi and the others survived thanks to him.
@@teobratuteodor1728 read description and pinned comment bro 😭😭😭😭😭
@YourFavoriteNPC my mistake boss. 👍
I appreciate the apology bro 🫡
Aint no way Monokuma said sorry.
Hajime should have been zero. He didn't deserve all the bullshit.
13:28 erm, thats robophobic
What makes you think that Byakuya killed his siblings?
i just really hate maki but still love her so much. she didnt deserve any of her pain but her taking most out on kokichi was just wrong. some of the things she did were for a reason but why did she hate him so much she tried to kill him? i've never played the game so pardon if im wrong but all kokichi did was lie and all that other bad stuff. however, maki still had hate for kokichi for getting kaito killed even though she knew it was for the best. but still he ended up dying for nothing. (no this is not me getting mad cuz kokichi is my "favorite character" but this is my honest opinion so pls dont hate
Yeah I love maki but she started to really piss me off 😭
@@frisku.u5279 righh i love kokichi but he can be a bit too dramatic, still she should not have shot him with a POISON arrow, she pissed me off ever since chapter 3 tbh
I really dislike hajime, if he didnt go through with the kamakura project i believe chiaki could still be alive.
Kaito gets number 100000 for existing
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO BEST BOY KAITO
i hate kaito sm smh-
How can you not like the Luminary of the Stars?
byakuya being called andrew tate is crazy💀💀💀
I have a feeling that this comment section is going to be bad.
Bro i am already cooked after i saw the comments on my community post 😭
I SAW THAT. (1:21)
Idk what y'all say , Sayaka was the most realistic THH character.
Cap, kokichi probably deserved like at least a 4
me trying to figure out why kork got a 9:
is it because he murdered 99 women? but wasnt that because he wanted his sister to have 100 friends? wasnt he also abused into loving his sister?
Bro he killed 99 girls whether or not its for his sister it doesn’t make any sense 😭
@@YourFavoriteNPC hes mentally insane? idfk i just feel like its unfair because he was pretty much manipulated into doing so
Does being manipulated make it okay that he killed all those people?
@@frisku.u5279 its the manipulation part, im pretty sure kiyo is mentally insane!
in bleach aizen manipulated hinamori into murdering toshiro because of her lowly state. ik this is random but this is kinda the vibe im getting
Anyways, didnt mean to start a fight or whatever but in my opinion he def didnt deserve to die twice-
im hoping you dont think hes all about incest-
wait a second who r u why am i subscribed to u.
Because im a goated youtuber bro 😤
Also u are subscribed because you SMASHED that susbcribe buttonnn.
FYM CHIHIRO IS A 1 ITS -100000
BRO READ PINNED COMMENT 😭😭
NO cuz Angie deserves more
Fully disagreed, she deserved way less.
Mikan didint deserve the bullying, she deserved WORSE
Mikan haters when mikan didn’t deserve more bullying than the 8 years she already suffered
Mikan wasnt despair mikan, she was the ACTUAL mikan, so kinda?
Despair Mikan deserves the execution. But normal Mikan doesn't deserve bullying or sexual harassment.
amazing rage bait
Bro deadass im being serious with these rankings 💀💀💀
@@YourFavoriteNPC mukuro suffered emotional damage because she had to live with junko “fucking” enoshima so i’d give her a 7 there, deserved tbh. junko should’ve gotten 9 for physical because ultimate punishment, and mondo deserves the pain more than hifumi because at least hifumi was manipulated by celeste. andrew tate should’ve gotten less deserved pain than mondo because he at least didn’t commit any murders. (removed the part about celeste)
teruteru didn’t do any murders of his own volition that weren’t in the kg (junko mindfuck) so he deserves less than mondo but because he tries to drug people to have sex with them but at least he doesn’t murder them, i’d give him a 4.
tsumoogs didn’t do nuthin free my girl fr
tl;dr oil up ill be there in 5 minutes
Why is celeste deserved 0
@@Foçalors-x9qread pinned comment bro
Boo womp
Makoto deserved at least a bit more pain.
Why?! He literally did NOTHING wrong?! I'm sorry, but why? No hate, just genuine shock. What did the egg bean do?!
@Eclipse_daWeirdestGurl Selfishly wanted to live and ignored killers motives and consistently gaslit Kyoko that her ways of communication was wrong
@@PrinnyCG Tbh I think he was just trying to get her out of her shell and understand her. He wasn't selfish. If he got the trial wrong EVERYONE but the killer would die, I don't think it's selfish wanting to live. Everyone has different interpertations though!
@@Eclipse_daWeirdestGurl Oh well, still think he deserved a bit of pain for being in Kyoko's ass the entire game
@@PrinnyCG I don't think she minded tbh, she CAME to him to give him clues and opened up to him. Plus, no one really deserves the damn trauma
Haiiiii
11037 LMAO
Tbh i dont even think that mikan was actually bullied, yeah she said it but hiyoko also said the reason why she bully mikan is because she is fake and lying for attention
Npc, you forgot Kokichi’s backstory and his parents is his past
*Sees Sayaka's Deserved Pain*
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I Feel Like This Has Been Reposted. I Know For A Fact That I Watched A Video That Has The Same Exact Topic As This A Couple Months Ago
Edit:I KNEW IT! I FREAKEN KNEW IT!
Also, something that is untrue for Celeste is that she had 0 regard for human life. She claimed that she killed for her dream and that she feels nothing about killing others but she was lying. Right when she gives the key to Alter Ego’s location she says “Will it really give you the hope you’re looking for? I can’t say I saw it that way. Which is why … Actually, it’s not important.” This shows that she killed out of despair and not greed and that she never wanted to kill anyone.
If she never wanted to kill anyone then why did she kill not one, but TWO people. 😭
Out of fear and despair
This is a little dubious. At best, it shows that Celeste's despair also had a role to play. That doesn't necessarily mean that she feels empathy for what she's done. And how Hifumi was treated doesn't make things any better.
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