Yes Cheaters think they won't get caught but if there is a drastic change in behaviour thier partner will pick it up, for example if the chester went from being warm and loving and open to cold and distant obviously thier partner is going to know something is going on
This is a good example of why people should value their partner's attention, and never take it for granted. The moment you start taking your partner's attention for granted, you are putting the relationship at risk. I really don't get this new obsession with 'finding yourself' when you are already in a relationship, the moment you go to find yourself you should treat that moment as the end of your current relationship, because giving your attention to anyone other than you partner in this way is cheating, whether it fits your definition or not.
My ex did this ‘finding myself’ bs twice throughout our 3 month relationship, the second time I just said go ahead and she tried to change her mind the same day, I said she clearly took me for granted and turned her down
Admittedly that “finding myself” bs was part of why I broke up with my girlfriend in highschool. The bigger part was me getting freaked out when I saw signs that she was emotionally vulnerable because it reminded too much of my mother. That part I only recognized in hindsight though.
Friends of the first story OP saying “you could’ve saved the relationship by giving her another chance”. I whole heartedly believe that these people don’t deserve a voice box, they provide nothing valuable or useful when they speak. Also, the OP is shit at making friends ngl, first “friend” he went to said he was being insecure or some shit, then others telling him to give her another chance. You made some amazing life long “friends” that will definitely not drag you down emotionally and try to trap you in a marriage where your wife cheats. 👌
Fr- Like IK we all get fake friends at one point and have to deal with them to grow stronger and all that But wtf is this kind of fake friends he got??? Where the hell did he even find them??? Did he just have a quick tour in hell and said "oh, these ones don't look too bad let me adopt them in the name of friendship"???
Story 1 - OP should have just broken up with her but chsnges are she would have just kept gaslighting him and not admired it, she only admitted it after he cheated because she realised how hurtful and painful being cheated on is,it's like someone who goes around punching people but then feels bad about it after they get punched themselves and feel how painful it is
The craziest parts of this story are that this guy works presumably for a tech company in the Bay Area and thinks a lease and rent are different AND a trip to Alaska is a staycation. Absolutely wild stuff.
I had to think about it for a couple seconds, but what he meant is a yearly lease vs a month-to-month tenancy. In other words, he can't just eff off at the end of the month. But there's no excuse about the staycation.
I'm gonna say this right now, with how his "friend" reacted to his worries in the first story, I'm actually convinced that he's the one she is cheating with. Either that, or at least he's in on it and supports her cheating. On the second story, I think it's actually a good thing that she decided to uninvite him from the wedding. If she hadn't done that, the wedding and relationship between her and his brother would have continued and I am sure in the end no one would have been happy. Now, his brother had the chance to get out of a manipulative and controlling relationship before things got worse (which surely would have turned abusive eventually, I am way more intimately familiar with such kinds of people than I'd like to be).
To be frank if my SO was as clingy as Op and gets jealous that you spend a lot of time with your colleagues (we don't know the point were Ex gf started cheating) and he starts to cheat on you even if he doesnt have evidence you cheat on him.. I doubt he is a good pick.
Why is it always, when a man expresses his concerns, everyone plays it down and even degrades the sentiments as "insecure". No one does that to women. You are not insecure, your gut is telling you something.
Story 1: Honestly, OP should have just broken it off with the ex and moved on. I'm sure he wanted to teach her something, but much like "one a druggie, always a druggie", once a cheater, always a cheater. Story 2: Had me believing this was real until the religious diatribe at the end.
Even i, as an Atheist, felt this was akin to one of those long adverts from the early 00's. There was a 1st, 2nd and 3rd act perfectly structured and with all the boxes, that a movie is supposed to have, checked. The only thing out of of place is actually the one that seals it for me: the Mary Sue protagonist. Typical of almost every new age production. So, yeah. Fake AF.
The funny part about story 2 is how one person is really controlling and suffocating, so the good-guy squad solved the issue by being controlling and suffocating but for the good-cause instead of the bad-cause. Peak storytelling.
"You've Got to Be Kidding!" A game for kids and grown-ups. THE PROBLEM Buster: My fiancee is acting strange and staying late while going out with her workmates. I think she may be cheating on me, and also might be gaslighting me about it. What should I do? [Tip: The answer may not be obvious at first] -------------- Sue Ellen: You should try to talk it out. Maybe see if she has any problems in the relationship and if it can be fixed. Brain: Hire a Private Investigator. The evidence will give you some closure and you can move on from this situation. >Binky: Eye for an eye. Give her the same treatment.
The fact that he did not have proof and was just hoping that she would say it was crazy. Maybe it was obvious, maybe he would want out of the relationship anyway, but the fact that he just started sleeping around is just...
Imagine saying cheating is a deal breaker and then cheating yourself. I feel sorry for anyone who gets into a future relationship with either of these two.
@@ianmoritzplatapino3684 without being sure? Without her realising what she did is wrong? I hope you never get cheated on because that shit hurts mad as hell. Just leaving her wont mke her know how bad it is.
@@lllonerll6507while I do understand you and agree to an extent 90% of the time it's better to just leave and treat them like a dead person going forward people deserve peace of mind and shouldn't waste their time or harm themselves over someone who is not worth the energy at most gather evidence of their cheating show it to their families and keep it to yourself if they ever try to twist a lie
The second story is just sad. Glad the brother had some common sense. It sucks how so many people use religion as an excuse to hate someone for being themselves.
@@Fredrickthe2nd I think we both know the point I’m trying to make here, and you are taking that out of context. Obviously if someone does something heinous like commit murder we shouldn’t like them. But hating someone just because they are gay or lesbian and using religion as a mask is just wrong.
But I agree that you shouldn't hate people but not letting someone who is homosexual be at your wedding isn't bad nor hate and saying being homosexual is wrong isn't hate either when you start to be rude or even hurt people because their homosexual that's hate
@@DakotaRileyMedia I think even if someone commits murder you should still try to support them to get help and never do it again if that becomes a burden to you like hurting yourself by being around them you should leave and not try to help them last that point because that could lead you to do something bad yourself but you shouldn't judge someone just because they do bad things or say that makes them a bad person
Second story op isnt breaking the family. His brother is by being a door mat by allowing his fiancee and her family dictate who can go or not. Op should go bring a date. If her family gets pissed off. Pick up a bible give to them and tell them. Show me where Jesus turned his back on love and or on someone of their sexuality . That would probably shut them up.
He didn't but Jesus was perfect and you can't expect humans to be perfect also show me where Jesus condoned someone being homosexual and said that's fine let me invite you to a sacred event and not voice the fact that what your doing is wrong the Bible also explicitly states that you shouldn't be around bad company and someone saying it's fine to be homosexual is a bad company
@@Fredrickthe2ndJesus cursed a fig tree for not bearing fruit out of season and threw a tantrum in the temple. Y'all's book can't even write a Gary Stu properly.
@@mrFiiSKiiS it was to demonstrate God's power and show people to be careful Jesus didn't just curse the fig tree for no reason also him throwing a “tantrum” in the temple is justified first if because it's a temple it was made for God and Jesus is God so it was made for him second as he said they turned a house of prayer into a den of thieves
Yes especially the first one, op was so dumb and risky he didn't even have evidence, and it was pure jealousy that moved him bc there was a high chance that she didn't cheat and op will end up being the cheater 🤦🏻♀️
@@JRSpinghe was, he did not know 100% if she cheated and went ahead and cheated on her. He could have just left or tried to find a way to be 100% sure of her cheating. What if she hadn't cheated? Then he would be the only cheater.
@@sun92852 Even if turned out she didn't cheat, his actions would still be her fault. She completely neglected their relationship and prioritised parties over her boyfriend, she completely checked out of the relationship.
Anyone that hides behind religion to rationalize bigotry is incredibly foolish. I’m Christian, and my sister is Pan, she was so comfortable that she just brought it up in regular conversation, I didn’t know what it was really. She explained it and that was it, I didn’t bash her for it, nothing, just said cool. She can do what she wants and so will I.
He didn't go into details, but "doing stuff with amy" sounds like a revenge affair. He even states that he cheated on her to hurt her. Two wrongs don't make a right.
If someone breaks your heart by cheating you got to choices- Starting to be s cheater yourself that will go on in the next relationship too. Or feel the pain, work with it and get over it and be a better person..... Just break up, dont make such a drama....
@@Fredrickthe2nd Do you really think OP'S brother would stay in that relationship with just Promises of Eternal love 😂..... From OP'S post it is very clear that Their family is Very very open to Se*** preferences.
That's the point of revenge, being as evil or more evil is not about being the best, it's about hurting the other until they can only cry as a defense. If you don't understand that, you're still very Disney.
Nope. His actions are not comparable, not even remotely. He already decided that relationship was over, at that point they were just cohabiting. And by deliberately going out and sleeping with other women he demonstrated to her that she no longer means anything. The moment she cheated, their relationship was over, she is the only cheater in the story.
@@arhael3594 Bullshit. He stooped to her level. He could have just ended things and moved on but he decided to roll around in the muck for some petty revenge.
Yes but theirs a difference between a person who says they are homosexual and practices homosexuality and doesnt repent and someone who is sinning while trying not to sin or sin by accident
@@Fredrickthe2nd yeah but it still isnt her (or anyones) place to exclude him for thast reason. god doesnt want us to exclude thoses tho live in sin (granted i dont belive baing gay is a sin BUT for this argument im going with the idea that it is) God wants us to include those who sin into our lives to hopefuly help them learn to resist temptation. but even then the wife is still in the wrong for lieing to OP for years (witch is also a sin mite i add) about bneing ok with his sexuality
@@cannonbyrd1755 yes but he does say don’t keep bad company because bad company makes good people do bad things yes if the fiance was perfect she would let the OP be at the wedding but she can't be perfect and it's better to exclude the OP from the wedding than for the fiance to do something bad
@@Fredrickthe2nd What do you honestly think OP’s presence at the wedding would cause? Do you think their mere existence would tempt other people to become homosexuals? Also, if their presence were so terrible, then maybe she shouldn’t be trying to MARRY THEIR SIBLING.
@@NeoCreo1 I don't know how the op would act at the wedding also if she's marrying the ops brother I think that means she loves him so why would she not be with the person she loves because of his brother
I don't see how everyone in story 1 could possibly blame the OP for his relationship falling apart. They've had numerous talks where they could've fixed things, and instead trying to fix her relationship, his girlfriend decided that she would rather preserve her innocence. So she brushed off every single one of his accurate concerns by telling him that he was being, A: Crazy, B: Paranoid, or C: Jealous. I don't agree with him having an affair of his own, because he still didn’t know for sure. But he was right, so I can’t bring myself to pity his girlfriend either.
@@arhael3594 Are you deaf and blind? You can read the title and the guy literally says he started going out with a woman that he knew had/has feelings for him while still actively in the relationship and using the woman to "hurt Fiona in the same way she hurt him"
@@arcadius3257 In the same video he clarified that that woman didn't want a serious relationship, it was just a friends with benefits thing. You have a point on that front that it might have hurt the other woman. As for his relationship, it got annuled, when he found out of cheating. She checked out of the relationship long before he did. Them still being in the house was just a formality, him deliberately bringing another woman in was for her to get the memo.
@@arhael3594 Thats irrelevant, he was still in a relationship with Fiona while he was going out with her and hooking up with other women. So long as he's still in a relationship f*cking around with women that aren't his Girlfriend = cheating. Stop trying to justified it just because she did it first, they're both wrong.
@@arcadius3257 What relationship? They shared house. That's it. Their relationship status was a formality at that point. And no, I won't stop justifying. The one who started cheating has ruined the relationship. If someone punches me, I am justified to punch back. You are asking me to accept cheating as bad like it's an objective morality rule. That's not how it works, there are reasons behind why cheating is bad. It's a breach of trust and agreement of exclusivity. She broke that agreement, anything goes after that. He did not cheat on her because she has already relinquished exclusivity rights, hence why she did not act mad, but instead cried all sad knowing that she had no right to object.
I don’t like how whenever homosexual people hear people say they disagree with them, their first reaction is to claim hatred. However that is not the case here, as this was very clearly targeted hatred.
Honestly for the first story, cheating back was just such an immature thing to do. It's not even about being the bigger person anymore, for whatever reason he did it, cheating is cheating. What was so hard about calling her out for it and breaking up? The the end of their relationship was inevitable, sure, but imagine if the outcome was different and in some turn of events, it was a misunderstanding?
It's hard to call someone out without hard evidence. If your hypothetical was correct and she didn't cheat physically, she had already checked out of the relationship by that point by refusing to make plans with him, refusing to keep him in the loop and freezing him out of his own relationship as stated. OP could have been the better person for sure, but why would he be? On the off-chance that the person treating you like a convenient chore-doer who left you isolated in an unhappy relationship ISN'T getting plowed by another man as she's leaving you behind?
Even if there was no cheating, it wouldn't matter. She completely neglected relationship and treated him like utter garbage. @andres8204 summed it up perfectly.
For all of you asking why, it’s simple. You have the basic level of self-respect necessary to know that cheating is objectively wrong. As such, you don’t fucking do it, and either end the relationship because of her checking out, confront her about her behavior and tell her this is at a breaking point and something needs to change, or stop sitting around whining and start actively investigating to gather proof of the affair.
She should've dumped him. Even if it takes 2 to be in a relationship, you don't have to be obsessed with your partner to that point. She obviously didn't have the same values as him and didn't even seem to like being around him. He also proved not to be that great of a guy. I genuinely think she only tried to "save" the relationship because of what their wedding guests might think.
Story 2 - Our eldest married into a religious family (not SonIL), whilst our youngest is gay and non-binary. Our eldest told her fiance at the time that under no circumstances would she marry into the family if they disrespected her sibling. One aunt objected to the "sinner" and she was not allowed at the wedding and my SIL has cut her out of his life. My youngest is a loving and kind person who's never hurt anyone. Kindness and love are not hard to give but conservative religious people just love to hate. A co-worker once asked me if I got sick just thinking of them and their partner doing "it"? Like WTF??? I said, "No, but then again, I don't fantasize about my adult child having sex. Why do you?" She reported me to HR for that comment but SHE got into trouble. 😂
I can't support the OP in the first story. He should've left her, maybe told everyone, but not cheated back just to hurt her. He lost the moral high ground when he did it, I'm sorry. This is even more true because he had no proof, just a feeling. He had a hunch that his fiancee might be cheating, so he cheated on her. Isn't this exactly what we've heard from many people that cheated in the first place? What if he had been wrong?
So the man emotionally cheated and the woman physically/emotionally cheated. (Idk if it got physical or not) Either way the girl started the flame and the boy gassed it up. Both did wrong and are both not nice, the girl was worse in my opinion though.
Kind of reminds me of my own story with my sister. One brings a bastard into the world at 16, and the other runs away with a woman. The fiancée and her family sound a bit like mine. I am also a very conservative man, I believe in the sanctity of marriage. I can't change my sister but I can accept her or accept that we don't have a sibling relationship. always remember God hates sin but loves the sinner
Story 2 - I don't think I could go through with the wedding. If someone is personally against homosexuality, that's their opinion I guess, but to actively treat someone poorly because of their sexuality shows a terrible lack of character.
They just don't want them on their wedding - which probably is a religious event for the person. I don't think anyone is at fault here, it's both peoples rights to think what they think and while agree that the bro should've stood up there, it's both their wedding as well. It's strange for me as well, because I don't care who lokes who, but after all - as a straight guy, I wouldn't really care if I had a homophobic partner, as long as she's quiet about it.
It’s wild that a lot of women let their coworkers and girlfriends talk them clean out of a solid relationship. To begin with, you shouldn’t even be talking about your relationship with outside parties, especially not coworkers. It’s wild that she literally had a decent relationship and she allowed others to convince her that she needed to sleep around to be fulfilled 🙄. To the ladies that watch these videos, when your man questions your friend group or the people you hang out with, contrary to what you might think, many times he isn’t trying to be controlling. When you are in a relationship, it’s not just yourself anymore, and so the people you hang around can definitely influence you, which in turn can affect him as well. The people you hang around can influence your thinking for better or worse. Your man knows this, which is why it’s a concern for him. Fellas, if you notice your woman hanging around people that influence her in a negative way, and definitely if you notice a negative change in her behavior, speak up and say something. If she doesn’t change her behavior and you aren’t married, it might be time to leave. If you married, start documenting because if she doesn’t change, cheating and divorce is most likely around the corner. 💯
She completely checked out of the relationship and prioritised partying despite his disapproval. Even if turned out that she did not cheat, she deserved the outcome.
@@arhael3594 Bullshit. That’s the same weak-ass excuse used by many cheaters. If you don’t like the relationship, end it. Act like a decent human being and not an asshole.
1st story everyone sucks. You don't repay evil with evil. Makes you as bad as her. 2nd story, I'm only gonna say this once, ITS OK TO NOT AGREE WITH EVERYONES LIFE STYLE. It's OK to follow your religion. It's NOT OK to call people hateful and other derogatory names just because she follows her faith. Just disgusting and intolerant on the OPs part.
Are you high bro? Preaching intolerance of someone is not ok. Saying that your sibling-in-law is not allowed at their brother’s wedding is not okay. Being a controlling and manipulative partner is not okay. Also, her and her family were committing sin themselves by judging OP of their “sin”.
Story one. You need to drop your friends that were telling you that you’re being dramatic or imagining things. He was probably also having sex with her.
the reason why you can work from home is so that you can travel and go where ever you want. YOu are not limited to only meeting people in the office.. Id say this dude has caged himself and blames his work for doing so. Pretty lame excuse of a guy.
@@Sinatragaze Making it right was never his intention, his intention was to be vindicated and satisfaction from revenge, he got that, objective achieved. Redpill: you punching back is not wrong.
Last story im glad op had ppl have their backs. All my siings did this and no one had my back except my wife. It hurts. Cause for a while theyre like oh we accept her and you and blah blah blah. When arpund all familu and friends their colors came out and they really didnt. They didnt approve, thought same sex marriage should be concisered abusive and so much more hateful words. Hearing this story im glad someone gor the better ending than i did cause i mever want anyone to go through what i did.
Me personally 1 my wife isn’t allowed to do any of this bs, I’d have dumped her the first time she did that bs, the moment she stayed out and not call or gave me notice she would have been dumped
First story ... I kind of understand OP But he didnt even wait to be sure before blowing up and be awful chaotic ... I hate cheaters and that also goes for OP who acted poorly
Why was there a need to be sure? He was already being systematically gaslit and isolated, feeling and voicing his concern that he was the sole driving force for the relationship and being met with deflection. People don't need to cheat for the relationship to be shitty, she just happened to check out first and he took a while to get the message; and at that point he didn't really have anyone to betray, which is vastly different from what OP's fiance did.
first story was so full of bs, the husband was just an insecure douchebag who happened to be right about his jealousy, he’s a huge red flag for worrying and getting mad abt a ton of minor things bc he was overthinking
Not everyone agrees with homosexuality and that's ok not everyone who disagrees are evil manipulative people. I'd understand an argument that you are being manipulative. You stated that you brother had protected you and fought for you but the wedding is not just his day. You and your parents spun a narrative that she was evil but you and your family twisted his arm. Idk I see his perspective but my first thoughts are that the grooms family are extreme lgbtq followers and who ever disagrees are evil
Bullshit. The wedding is BOTH of their days. Also, excluding someone for their sexuality is fucked up. Multiple other commenters have said as much while also stating that they don’t support homosexuality.
@@AP_2-3 Cheating is when you emotionally or physically have sex with someone while in a relationship that isnt ok with it, what he did isnt cheating since the chick ended the relationship the moment she went behind his back with stuff.
@@JRSpingshe cheated on him and then he cheated on her for "revenge". That entire story is just him trying and failing to rationalize his shitty behavior. They're both bad people, that are terrible at communicating and very selfish.
Yes but habitually sinning by saying I'm homosexual and practicing homosexuality is different than original sin and accidentally sinning because one is worse then the other
Funfact cheaters, while you think you're being low-key when cheating, if your partner is self aware, he/she can tell
Yes Cheaters think they won't get caught but if there is a drastic change in behaviour thier partner will pick it up, for example if the chester went from being warm and loving and open to cold and distant obviously thier partner is going to know something is going on
100%
@@trentterryfriends3934 Chester is a kind of chicken dish here where I live. Your comment made me very confused for a moment lmao
95% of the time I agree. I will admit that there are some people that are really good at not changing at all: usually those with a screw loose.
This is a good example of why people should value their partner's attention, and never take it for granted. The moment you start taking your partner's attention for granted, you are putting the relationship at risk. I really don't get this new obsession with 'finding yourself' when you are already in a relationship, the moment you go to find yourself you should treat that moment as the end of your current relationship, because giving your attention to anyone other than you partner in this way is cheating, whether it fits your definition or not.
My ex did this ‘finding myself’ bs twice throughout our 3 month relationship, the second time I just said go ahead and she tried to change her mind the same day, I said she clearly took me for granted and turned her down
Admittedly that “finding myself” bs was part of why I broke up with my girlfriend in highschool. The bigger part was me getting freaked out when I saw signs that she was emotionally vulnerable because it reminded too much of my mother. That part I only recognized in hindsight though.
Friends of the first story OP saying “you could’ve saved the relationship by giving her another chance”. I whole heartedly believe that these people don’t deserve a voice box, they provide nothing valuable or useful when they speak. Also, the OP is shit at making friends ngl, first “friend” he went to said he was being insecure or some shit, then others telling him to give her another chance. You made some amazing life long “friends” that will definitely not drag you down emotionally and try to trap you in a marriage where your wife cheats. 👌
Cut them some slack. Most modern men are passive doormats and being walked over is all they've known their entire lives.
Facts💯
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Like IK we all get fake friends at one point and have to deal with them to grow stronger and all that
But wtf is this kind of fake friends he got??? Where the hell did he even find them??? Did he just have a quick tour in hell and said "oh, these ones don't look too bad let me adopt them in the name of friendship"???
Story 1 - OP should have just broken up with her but chsnges are she would have just kept gaslighting him and not admired it, she only admitted it after he cheated because she realised how hurtful and painful being cheated on is,it's like someone who goes around punching people but then feels bad about it after they get punched themselves and feel how painful it is
The craziest parts of this story are that this guy works presumably for a tech company in the Bay Area and thinks a lease and rent are different AND a trip to Alaska is a staycation. Absolutely wild stuff.
I had to think about it for a couple seconds, but what he meant is a yearly lease vs a month-to-month tenancy. In other words, he can't just eff off at the end of the month.
But there's no excuse about the staycation.
First sign of cheating was the coworkers saying she is getting married too early. Goes to show they have an anti serious relationship culture.
first story both of them are crazy
I'm gonna say this right now, with how his "friend" reacted to his worries in the first story, I'm actually convinced that he's the one she is cheating with. Either that, or at least he's in on it and supports her cheating.
On the second story, I think it's actually a good thing that she decided to uninvite him from the wedding. If she hadn't done that, the wedding and relationship between her and his brother would have continued and I am sure in the end no one would have been happy. Now, his brother had the chance to get out of a manipulative and controlling relationship before things got worse (which surely would have turned abusive eventually, I am way more intimately familiar with such kinds of people than I'd like to be).
Second story the guy saved so much money, time, energy and relationships with loved ones
Alternative title. I got revenge by cheating while my girlfriend cheated on me
They weren't married guy
*Edit* - It is a better title though
Oh my bad I'll edit that
@@EternalLight111 thanks
Dude never cheated, she ended it when she cheated.
@@JRSping no they were still in a relationship which still counts as cheating
Story 1: and so another demon was created, congrats Fiona we lost another good one.
All because she wanted her cake and eat it too.
Nah. They both suck ass. He's immature for not leaving asap
To be frank if my SO was as clingy as Op and gets jealous that you spend a lot of time with your colleagues (we don't know the point were Ex gf started cheating) and he starts to cheat on you even if he doesnt have evidence you cheat on him.. I doubt he is a good pick.
Why is it always, when a man expresses his concerns, everyone plays it down and even degrades the sentiments as "insecure". No one does that to women. You are not insecure, your gut is telling you something.
Story 1: Honestly, OP should have just broken it off with the ex and moved on. I'm sure he wanted to teach her something, but much like "one a druggie, always a druggie", once a cheater, always a cheater.
Story 2: Had me believing this was real until the religious diatribe at the end.
Even i, as an Atheist, felt this was akin to one of those long adverts from the early 00's. There was a 1st, 2nd and 3rd act perfectly structured and with all the boxes, that a movie is supposed to have, checked. The only thing out of of place is actually the one that seals it for me: the Mary Sue protagonist. Typical of almost every new age production.
So, yeah. Fake AF.
@@VRDejaVuwiderally fwake
The funny part about story 2 is how one person is really controlling and suffocating, so the good-guy squad solved the issue by being controlling and suffocating but for the good-cause instead of the bad-cause. Peak storytelling.
Damn Shrek had to deal with a cheater.
"You've Got to Be Kidding!"
A game for kids and grown-ups.
THE PROBLEM
Buster: My fiancee is acting strange and staying late while going out with her workmates. I think she may be cheating on me, and also might be gaslighting me about it. What should I do?
[Tip: The answer may not be obvious at first]
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Sue Ellen: You should try to talk it out. Maybe see if she has any problems in the relationship and if it can be fixed.
Brain: Hire a Private Investigator. The evidence will give you some closure and you can move on from this situation.
>Binky: Eye for an eye. Give her the same treatment.
The fact that he did not have proof and was just hoping that she would say it was crazy. Maybe it was obvious, maybe he would want out of the relationship anyway, but the fact that he just started sleeping around is just...
omhgg I LOVE THE REFERENCE LOL.
If no sinners were allowed at the wedding, the wedding should be canceled because everyone is a sinner.
Imagine saying cheating is a deal breaker and then cheating yourself.
I feel sorry for anyone who gets into a future relationship with either of these two.
Are you stupid? He was already going to leave her he just wanted to hear it from her 🤣
He should've left her.
@@ianmoritzplatapino3684 without being sure? Without her realising what she did is wrong?
I hope you never get cheated on because that shit hurts mad as hell. Just leaving her wont mke her know how bad it is.
I would leave tho but not everyone has that same mental strenght to just let something be and want proper closure.
@@lllonerll6507while I do understand you and agree to an extent 90% of the time it's better to just leave and treat them like a dead person going forward people deserve peace of mind and shouldn't waste their time or harm themselves over someone who is not worth the energy at most gather evidence of their cheating show it to their families and keep it to yourself if they ever try to twist a lie
Poor Amy from the first story 😭😭😭
The second story is just sad. Glad the brother had some common sense. It sucks how so many people use religion as an excuse to hate someone for being themselves.
People being themselves isn't always good I mean you wouldn't want a murderer to be themself
@@Fredrickthe2nd I think we both know the point I’m trying to make here, and you are taking that out of context. Obviously if someone does something heinous like commit murder we shouldn’t like them. But hating someone just because they are gay or lesbian and using religion as a mask is just wrong.
But I agree that you shouldn't hate people but not letting someone who is homosexual be at your wedding isn't bad nor hate and saying being homosexual is wrong isn't hate either when you start to be rude or even hurt people because their homosexual that's hate
@@DakotaRileyMedia I think even if someone commits murder you should still try to support them to get help and never do it again if that becomes a burden to you like hurting yourself by being around them you should leave and not try to help them last that point because that could lead you to do something bad yourself but you shouldn't judge someone just because they do bad things or say that makes them a bad person
@@Fredrickthe2ndwhat
Second story op isnt breaking the family. His brother is by being a door mat by allowing his fiancee and her family dictate who can go or not. Op should go bring a date. If her family gets pissed off. Pick up a bible give to them and tell them. Show me where Jesus turned his back on love and or on someone of their sexuality . That would probably shut them up.
He didn't but Jesus was perfect and you can't expect humans to be perfect also show me where Jesus condoned someone being homosexual and said that's fine let me invite you to a sacred event and not voice the fact that what your doing is wrong the Bible also explicitly states that you shouldn't be around bad company and someone saying it's fine to be homosexual is a bad company
@@Fredrickthe2ndJesus cursed a fig tree for not bearing fruit out of season and threw a tantrum in the temple.
Y'all's book can't even write a Gary Stu properly.
@@mrFiiSKiiS it was to demonstrate God's power and show people to be careful Jesus didn't just curse the fig tree for no reason also him throwing a “tantrum” in the temple is justified first if because it's a temple it was made for God and Jesus is God so it was made for him second as he said they turned a house of prayer into a den of thieves
Both are weird asf 💀💀
Yes especially the first one, op was so dumb and risky he didn't even have evidence, and it was pure jealousy that moved him bc there was a high chance that she didn't cheat and op will end up being the cheater 🤦🏻♀️
Probably an unpopular opinion but they both suck in the first story. 😂
How? the dude did nothing wrong.
@@JRSping so cheating isn't wrong?? You sound dumb
@@JRSpinghe was, he did not know 100% if she cheated and went ahead and cheated on her. He could have just left or tried to find a way to be 100% sure of her cheating. What if she hadn't cheated? Then he would be the only cheater.
@@sun92852 It turned out he wasn't wrong in the end though, his gut feeling didn't fail him.
@@sun92852 Even if turned out she didn't cheat, his actions would still be her fault. She completely neglected their relationship and prioritised parties over her boyfriend, she completely checked out of the relationship.
Anyone that hides behind religion to rationalize bigotry is incredibly foolish. I’m Christian, and my sister is Pan, she was so comfortable that she just brought it up in regular conversation, I didn’t know what it was really. She explained it and that was it, I didn’t bash her for it, nothing, just said cool. She can do what she wants and so will I.
Ewwwww, gay
They’re both childish
story1) good job OP i hope you and Amy will stay friends after all this and i hope you find love with another person
poor shrek...
People who think they can salvage a relationship is messed up, love yourself and find the one who is meant for you not those who sucks guys behind you
He should have just broken off the relationship in the first story. His cheating just to hurt his fiance was immature
It wasn't cheating
He didn't go into details, but "doing stuff with amy" sounds like a revenge affair. He even states that he cheated on her to hurt her. Two wrongs don't make a right.
@@nightking8490 It absolutely was. He didn’t end the relationship and started sleeping with other women. It was a textbook revenge affair
That second story is some ridiculous fanfic. Can guarantee they would have just kicked the bundle of sticks out of the wedding if it were real.
Stay-cation means you stay home to relax. Not go to a different area for a month. That’s just a vacation.
If someone breaks your heart by cheating you got to choices- Starting to be s cheater yourself that will go on in the next relationship too. Or feel the pain, work with it and get over it and be a better person.....
Just break up, dont make such a drama....
Another alternate title: I cheated on my cheating fiancee
Story 1: glad OP dumped Fiona. She doesn’t deserve him.
Theres no excuses for cheating its just unforgivable its a lie and a stab to your closest theres no excuse if your not happy break it off dont cheat
Religion isn't at Fault here.... I mean if they're so pious they wouldn't have done "Bed room activities" before marriage 😉
It's all for sex, but sexuality is a no-go
I mean we didn't get any details on whether the fiancee slept with her brother before marriage
@@Fredrickthe2nd Do you really think OP'S brother would stay in that relationship with just Promises of Eternal love 😂..... From OP'S post it is very clear that Their family is Very very open to Se*** preferences.
@@atlus6412 I wouldn't be surprised if they did but you genuinely don't know so I wouldn't make assumptions
The level of gaslighting is unbelievable.
on story 2 YOU GO MOM & DAD TAKE A STAND
Dude sees his gf is cheating so he decides to be just as gross, even if he tried to rationalize the revenge and say “I never felt anything.” Yay
That's the point of revenge, being as evil or more evil is not about being the best, it's about hurting the other until they can only cry as a defense.
If you don't understand that, you're still very Disney.
@@ar23431 “understanding” and “approving” are two different things
Nope. His actions are not comparable, not even remotely. He already decided that relationship was over, at that point they were just cohabiting. And by deliberately going out and sleeping with other women he demonstrated to her that she no longer means anything. The moment she cheated, their relationship was over, she is the only cheater in the story.
Oh, to be a tween again.
@@arhael3594 Bullshit. He stooped to her level. He could have just ended things and moved on but he decided to roll around in the muck for some petty revenge.
Anyone ever notice how all the people in these cheating stories seem to work in the corporate world?
15:22 so I guess she wants everyone else gone too? Given the fact that EVERYONE is a sinner no exceptions?
Yes but theirs a difference between a person who says they are homosexual and practices homosexuality and doesnt repent and someone who is sinning while trying not to sin or sin by accident
@@Fredrickthe2nd yeah but it still isnt her (or anyones) place to exclude him for thast reason. god doesnt want us to exclude thoses tho live in sin (granted i dont belive baing gay is a sin BUT for this argument im going with the idea that it is) God wants us to include those who sin into our lives to hopefuly help them learn to resist temptation. but even then the wife is still in the wrong for lieing to OP for years (witch is also a sin mite i add) about bneing ok with his sexuality
@@cannonbyrd1755 yes but he does say don’t keep bad company because bad company makes good people do bad things yes if the fiance was perfect she would let the OP be at the wedding but she can't be perfect and it's better to exclude the OP from the wedding than for the fiance to do something bad
@@Fredrickthe2nd What do you honestly think OP’s presence at the wedding would cause? Do you think their mere existence would tempt other people to become homosexuals? Also, if their presence were so terrible, then maybe she shouldn’t be trying to MARRY THEIR SIBLING.
@@NeoCreo1 I don't know how the op would act at the wedding also if she's marrying the ops brother I think that means she loves him so why would she not be with the person she loves because of his brother
second story , op should just be straight again . its that simple .
Story 2 : i would have excluded you too. 😂😂😂
Don't ever ignore that feeling
I don't see how everyone in story 1 could possibly blame the OP for his relationship falling apart.
They've had numerous talks where they could've fixed things, and instead trying to fix her relationship, his girlfriend decided that she would rather preserve her innocence. So she brushed off every single one of his accurate concerns by telling him that he was being, A: Crazy, B: Paranoid, or C: Jealous.
I don't agree with him having an affair of his own, because he still didn’t know for sure. But he was right, so I can’t bring myself to pity his girlfriend either.
It’s not her sin when she thinks beein gay is a sin.But it’s her sin to exclude you-since Judging is a sin.
this is a legend
Story 2: Why would he WANT to be with a woman who has absolutely no respect for him or his family, especially over a bigoted reason such as this??
I don’t remember this part in shrek movies
In response to story 1 : Yeah no, both are wrong here.
Cheating is cheating, the motivation is irrelevant.
He did not cheat. Relationship was already over, when she cheated and he found out, they were simply cohabiting after that.
@@arhael3594 Are you deaf and blind?
You can read the title and the guy literally says he started going out with a woman that he knew had/has feelings for him while still actively in the relationship and using the woman to "hurt Fiona in the same way she hurt him"
@@arcadius3257 In the same video he clarified that that woman didn't want a serious relationship, it was just a friends with benefits thing. You have a point on that front that it might have hurt the other woman.
As for his relationship, it got annuled, when he found out of cheating. She checked out of the relationship long before he did. Them still being in the house was just a formality, him deliberately bringing another woman in was for her to get the memo.
@@arhael3594 Thats irrelevant, he was still in a relationship with Fiona while he was going out with her and hooking up with other women.
So long as he's still in a relationship f*cking around with women that aren't his Girlfriend = cheating.
Stop trying to justified it just because she did it first, they're both wrong.
@@arcadius3257
What relationship? They shared house. That's it. Their relationship status was a formality at that point.
And no, I won't stop justifying. The one who started cheating has ruined the relationship. If someone punches me, I am justified to punch back.
You are asking me to accept cheating as bad like it's an objective morality rule. That's not how it works, there are reasons behind why cheating is bad. It's a breach of trust and agreement of exclusivity. She broke that agreement, anything goes after that. He did not cheat on her because she has already relinquished exclusivity rights, hence why she did not act mad, but instead cried all sad knowing that she had no right to object.
I don’t like how whenever homosexual people hear people say they disagree with them, their first reaction is to claim hatred. However that is not the case here, as this was very clearly targeted hatred.
I just feel bad for Amy because she's just there not trying to cheat on anyone.
personally i ain't wifing up a girl who goes out to parting as that marriage is set up for failure
Honestly for the first story, cheating back was just such an immature thing to do. It's not even about being the bigger person anymore, for whatever reason he did it, cheating is cheating. What was so hard about calling her out for it and breaking up? The the end of their relationship was inevitable, sure, but imagine if the outcome was different and in some turn of events, it was a misunderstanding?
It's hard to call someone out without hard evidence.
If your hypothetical was correct and she didn't cheat physically, she had already checked out of the relationship by that point by refusing to make plans with him, refusing to keep him in the loop and freezing him out of his own relationship as stated.
OP could have been the better person for sure, but why would he be? On the off-chance that the person treating you like a convenient chore-doer who left you isolated in an unhappy relationship ISN'T getting plowed by another man as she's leaving you behind?
Some people dont lay down and die, some fight back.
Even if there was no cheating, it wouldn't matter. She completely neglected relationship and treated him like utter garbage. @andres8204 summed it up perfectly.
For all of you asking why, it’s simple. You have the basic level of self-respect necessary to know that cheating is objectively wrong. As such, you don’t fucking do it, and either end the relationship because of her checking out, confront her about her behavior and tell her this is at a breaking point and something needs to change, or stop sitting around whining and start actively investigating to gather proof of the affair.
Ahh, yes! 5am in the morning in the Department of Redundancy Department, as opposed to 5am in the evening. 🙄
Second story sounds like the made-up HELLO IM GAY PAY ME ATTENTION- Story.
She should've dumped him. Even if it takes 2 to be in a relationship, you don't have to be obsessed with your partner to that point. She obviously didn't have the same values as him and didn't even seem to like being around him. He also proved not to be that great of a guy. I genuinely think she only tried to "save" the relationship because of what their wedding guests might think.
never trust people who go out a lot with coworkers
Story 2 - Our eldest married into a religious family (not SonIL), whilst our youngest is gay and non-binary. Our eldest told her fiance at the time that under no circumstances would she marry into the family if they disrespected her sibling. One aunt objected to the "sinner" and she was not allowed at the wedding and my SIL has cut her out of his life. My youngest is a loving and kind person who's never hurt anyone. Kindness and love are not hard to give but conservative religious people just love to hate. A co-worker once asked me if I got sick just thinking of them and their partner doing "it"? Like WTF??? I said, "No, but then again, I don't fantasize about my adult child having sex. Why do you?" She reported me to HR for that comment but SHE got into trouble. 😂
I can't support the OP in the first story. He should've left her, maybe told everyone, but not cheated back just to hurt her. He lost the moral high ground when he did it, I'm sorry. This is even more true because he had no proof, just a feeling. He had a hunch that his fiancee might be cheating, so he cheated on her. Isn't this exactly what we've heard from many people that cheated in the first place? What if he had been wrong?
Even though im homophobic i wouldn't exclude family at the wedding because its family so like fiancee doing that is crazy
😂😂 I love that bro came out and just explained he's homophobic just randomly
The fiance is also family to him
May i ask why you are homophobic? Just want to understand your reasoning behind your thinking :)
wildest fucking comment here I swear
@@theculturedone6275 depends on where you drive your moral from and what is the criteria to determine right from wrong .
So the man emotionally cheated and the woman physically/emotionally cheated. (Idk if it got physical or not)
Either way the girl started the flame and the boy gassed it up. Both did wrong and are both not nice, the girl was worse in my opinion though.
Kind of reminds me of my own story with my sister.
One brings a bastard into the world at 16, and the other runs away with a woman. The fiancée and her family sound a bit like mine.
I am also a very conservative man, I believe in the sanctity of marriage. I can't change my sister but I can accept her or accept that we don't have a sibling relationship.
always remember God hates sin but loves the sinner
Story 2 - I don't think I could go through with the wedding. If someone is personally against homosexuality, that's their opinion I guess, but to actively treat someone poorly because of their sexuality shows a terrible lack of character.
They just don't want them on their wedding - which probably is a religious event for the person. I don't think anyone is at fault here, it's both peoples rights to think what they think and while agree that the bro should've stood up there, it's both their wedding as well.
It's strange for me as well, because I don't care who lokes who, but after all - as a straight guy, I wouldn't really care if I had a homophobic partner, as long as she's quiet about it.
She was bonding alright 😂raw dogging
0:02 bro just walked past all that coal and the one iron ore block without a care in the world 😔😢
It's parkour
If she was a building she will be the Chinese embassy full of red flags
A trip to Alaska is not a staycation 🤦♂
It’s wild that a lot of women let their coworkers and girlfriends talk them clean out of a solid relationship. To begin with, you shouldn’t even be talking about your relationship with outside parties, especially not coworkers. It’s wild that she literally had a decent relationship and she allowed others to convince her that she needed to sleep around to be fulfilled 🙄.
To the ladies that watch these videos, when your man questions your friend group or the people you hang out with, contrary to what you might think, many times he isn’t trying to be controlling. When you are in a relationship, it’s not just yourself anymore, and so the people you hang around can definitely influence you, which in turn can affect him as well. The people you hang around can influence your thinking for better or worse. Your man knows this, which is why it’s a concern for him.
Fellas, if you notice your woman hanging around people that influence her in a negative way, and definitely if you notice a negative change in her behavior, speak up and say something. If she doesn’t change her behavior and you aren’t married, it might be time to leave. If you married, start documenting because if she doesn’t change, cheating and divorce is most likely around the corner.
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Women remain as impressionable and gullible as a teenagers their entire lives.
Eh, I think that the reason coworkers are so confortable talking crap about someone's partner is because they are the first to talk bad
First story is so pathetic. They’re both weak people who would rather play games than be happy.
I couldn’t do the same thing if I caught my husband cheating on me. I would be the same as him lol
2nd story. is so sad.
Cheat is bad period. But it’s different when it’s a girl cheating.
Nah if you cheat with no evidence and just assumed you're bugging.
She completely checked out of the relationship and prioritised partying despite his disapproval. Even if turned out that she did not cheat, she deserved the outcome.
@@arhael3594 Bullshit. That’s the same weak-ass excuse used by many cheaters. If you don’t like the relationship, end it. Act like a decent human being and not an asshole.
Damn Shrek and Fiona have some issues
this idiot failed to put up any boundaries and excused everything. What did he expect exactly?
1st story everyone sucks. You don't repay evil with evil. Makes you as bad as her. 2nd story, I'm only gonna say this once, ITS OK TO NOT AGREE WITH EVERYONES LIFE STYLE. It's OK to follow your religion. It's NOT OK to call people hateful and other derogatory names just because she follows her faith. Just disgusting and intolerant on the OPs part.
Are you high bro? Preaching intolerance of someone is not ok. Saying that your sibling-in-law is not allowed at their brother’s wedding is not okay. Being a controlling and manipulative partner is not okay. Also, her and her family were committing sin themselves by judging OP of their “sin”.
Personally I don't support gay or anything like it but I don't discriminate against them it's there life there choice 😊
Story one. You need to drop your friends that were telling you that you’re being dramatic or imagining things. He was probably also having sex with her.
Early
Oh and can u
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Just be straight like a normal person ?
Just be not an asshole and mind your own business like a normal person?
As a member of the LGBTQ community I solve the problem of religion with atheism.:)
the reason why you can work from home is so that you can travel and go where ever you want. YOu are not limited to only meeting people in the office.. Id say this dude has caged himself and blames his work for doing so. Pretty lame excuse of a guy.
How is it a staycation if you travel somewhere else?
The first guy just seems like an asshole. He should’ve just broken up instead of being petty and wasting her time.
Nope. 100% justified in his actions.
@@arhael3594 two wrongs don’t make a right, red pill.
@@Sinatragaze Making it right was never his intention, his intention was to be vindicated and satisfaction from revenge, he got that, objective achieved.
Redpill: you punching back is not wrong.
@@arhael3594 He rolled around in the muck to achieve some petty revenge. He’s a cheater as well. You redpill people are pathetic
Last story im glad op had ppl have their backs. All my siings did this and no one had my back except my wife. It hurts. Cause for a while theyre like oh we accept her and you and blah blah blah. When arpund all familu and friends their colors came out and they really didnt. They didnt approve, thought same sex marriage should be concisered abusive and so much more hateful words. Hearing this story im glad someone gor the better ending than i did cause i mever want anyone to go through what i did.
£a95 are not happy with themselves, yet they expect us all to be happy with their pretense.
As. If.
In story 2 who agrees with op’s brother’s fiancé. Hit the like button
Me personally 1 my wife isn’t allowed to do any of this bs, I’d have dumped her the first time she did that bs, the moment she stayed out and not call or gave me notice she would have been dumped
That honestly sounds real wild
@@Baba-qp5yp it’s called respect, my wife knows where I am at all times and if I’m running late I text and call her she also know who I’m with
A little to much. For me it would be the second time, because she would know I am not ok with it and would have to do it knowing that
@@AP_2-3 it’s a build up bro
I dont agree with the second story
Always you should listen your guts
First story ... I kind of understand OP
But he didnt even wait to be sure before blowing up and be awful chaotic ...
I hate cheaters and that also goes for OP who acted poorly
Why was there a need to be sure? He was already being systematically gaslit and isolated, feeling and voicing his concern that he was the sole driving force for the relationship and being met with deflection.
People don't need to cheat for the relationship to be shitty, she just happened to check out first and he took a while to get the message; and at that point he didn't really have anyone to betray, which is vastly different from what OP's fiance did.
Op is kinda just as bad in this one…
I feel like some of these Channels that do Reddit stories are run and made by AI’s
first story was so full of bs, the husband was just an insecure douchebag who happened to be right about his jealousy, he’s a huge red flag for worrying and getting mad abt a ton of minor things bc he was overthinking
14:13 how is traveling to alaska a staycation?
17 minutes ago?
Not everyone agrees with homosexuality and that's ok not everyone who disagrees are evil manipulative people. I'd understand an argument that you are being manipulative. You stated that you brother had protected you and fought for you but the wedding is not just his day. You and your parents spun a narrative that she was evil but you and your family twisted his arm. Idk I see his perspective but my first thoughts are that the grooms family are extreme lgbtq followers and who ever disagrees are evil
Bullshit. The wedding is BOTH of their days. Also, excluding someone for their sexuality is fucked up. Multiple other commenters have said as much while also stating that they don’t support homosexuality.
Cheating in response to being cheated on makes you just as bad as the person who cheated on you! You don't pay back cheating with more cheating!
What the dude did isnt cheating.
what is cheating to you?
@@AP_2-3she cheated on him first
@@gapgamer0954 ok doesn't make cheating any less bad. Stay true to your morals bro
@@AP_2-3 Cheating is when you emotionally or physically have sex with someone while in a relationship that isnt ok with it, what he did isnt cheating since the chick ended the relationship the moment she went behind his back with stuff.
@@JRSpingshe cheated on him and then he cheated on her for "revenge". That entire story is just him trying and failing to rationalize his shitty behavior. They're both bad people, that are terrible at communicating and very selfish.
15:24
Everyone is a sinner except Jesus by definition though?
Yes but habitually sinning by saying I'm homosexual and practicing homosexuality is different than original sin and accidentally sinning because one is worse then the other
@@Fredrickthe2nd You keep telling yourself that bucko