the rad lookin spade attack actually looks very similar to one of berdly's attacks in chapter 2, i guess toby didnt want to completely abandon that rad lookin attack huh
Yep, its Berdly’s tornado attack which he exclusively uses in his normal route 2nd fight. diagonally flying projectiles that slightly change their firing angle each wave.
@tntcreeperindo YT DUDE, where have you been man? At least comment on my videos or something. I've been trying hard to have you back in my life again. Or perhaps you don't want that.
the jevilknife attacks look less cool than the official ones, and the diamond bombs are even more of a TP farm than the clover bombs, but some of the spade attacks are really cool
I like how you can see the Jevilsknife attacks were cut early because the texture isn’t finished. The area in which it rotates from is still visible, and so is the reference point for where you take damage
"Q: Will you add anything else to the DEMO? A: I don't think so. It's possible Chapter 1 might receive some changes upon the release of the game, but I'm not sure." Who knows, maybe Toby will include some of those unusued attacks to the Jevil fight.
OoOooh Also I can see why those devil's knife attacks are usused I mean the sprite is bad and the attack seems too simple and easy to dodge but that cool spade attack seems like it should be in the game
"some of these are pretty cool! the unused devilsknife is actually really clean looking and fun to dodge, these attacks aren't that bad at all-" [Carousel but harder] "kill it with fire"
The devilsknife is better, the diamonds are introduced after with the chaos bomb and give too much TP, the ring around and carrousel are just pre version, the first spade attack is bad and the second spade attack is too similar to devilsknife
devilsknife change changed the entire fight. I didn't notice until I fought spamton and it was easier than jevil, but what makes the fight hard is the attacks coming from every direction. Chaos bomb and knives are unpredictable, spades come from sides and in rings, diamonds come from the floor, final chaos from the ceiling, and the carosel from the left but also having the appearance of coming from the right on one of them. The fight wouldn't be the same with these old attacks and it really shows how much effort Toby put into this
neat seeing a bit of Toby's development in there. I've started work on a Shmup to realize how simple it is to create objects, but realizing how, from a game balancing perspective, hard it is to actually put it all together in a way that's fun. Seeing how others do it is a first step to making it yourself.
Those last two are full of undyne energy. Like that second version of the radial spear attack that everyone freaks out at when they see it for the first time. Also happens to be my favorite attack in the game because there’s so much going on yet it’s still somehow a fair challenge
0:16 i know that attack it has been used for a deltarune chapter 1 noelle edition where you doing a snowgrave in chapter 1 you at the end fights against jevil and when you deplete his hp he like spamton will towering his defense and his only one attack will be a this crystals
I think that spade attack got turned into one of Berdly's wind attacks, the one with two sets of four tornados that come real fast one after the other.
2:51 I feel like Berdly's tornadoes-to-center attack is the spiritual successor to this, since its almost the same behavior but the bullet box is tilted and they all collide and vanish in the middle.
Wouldn't it be cool if Jevil could utilize significantly harder versions of attacks from other enemies in the game? I had that thought when he used the attack from the spade king.
Always found it weird that Jevils attack pattern is fixed and always the same. Would've been cool that his pattern would also be chaos and he could use any attack whenever he wants (Aside from his final chaos). All you'd had to do then is add multible intensities to the attacks, so that they're slower/weaker at the beginning and harder towards the end of the fight and you're done.
Just like the solo clover bombs they're actually pretty easy to dodge when you know how to (just moving on the y axis) but can get hard of you move everywhere to try dodging
well off of the top of my head i remember Asgore has an unused attack where he let out a war cry and swung his trident at you. i think the trident alternated between blue and orange so it was dodgeable. Toby deemed the attack too unlike Asgore so he scrapped it.
When Jevil says he can do anything, he means that he is a wild card, so he can literally do the move of any card in the Dark World of the classroom. It's not that meta lol. Hence the spades like KING
![Deltarune: Triple Jevil No Hit Complete [TAS]](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/psdrTa82mss/mqdefault.jpg)
Check out Sans' unused attacks as well!
ua-cam.com/video/YvsdEurwybc/v-deo.html
I think Sans' unused attacks are a lot more balanced then Jevil's, which is kind of surprising honestly
I watched it first !
Deltarune chaos king unused attacks?
cool
ayo does spamton have any?
Jevil can do so much he deleted his attacks
I love this comment way too much
@@mikvowel2494 --well i love you--
It's not gaj when you say no homo.
*I CAN DO ANYTHING!
jevil why are you yelling it's so loudddddd
@Sans Serif because he can
Ralsei: Breathes
Jevil; You have forfeited your life privileges
Huh, you just explained every moment im near of jevil... like 2 months ago
I guess his mentality is kill the healer first
@@ACE44-404 smart
@@ACE44-404 he forgot one thing. HEALING ITEMS
@@ACE44-404 it fucking works
>unused attacks
>Ive literally never heard of this for years despite loving unused stuff
Yeah same
Yeah it’s weird how TCRF never finds this stuff on their own
Oh wait
@@curaphix TCRF?
@@syweb2 the cutting room floor
They recently found out sans has unused attacks too, it's really interesting, go check it out
Kris: DOWN
Ralsei: DOWN
Susie: Oh, god.
(SOUL BREAKS)
CONTINUE ❤ GIVE UP
@VincenTOB *then the world was covered in darkness*
@VincenTOB too late
@VincenTOB *Dramatic music plays*
@@prowers2623 *No removing your sins*
2:50 looks like this attack found it's way back to chapter 2 as one of berdly's attacks. Interesting
oh tahts neat
Its kinda different but yeah I see what you mean
it is also similiar to undyne the undying's last spears attack
(He hit me in the face with a tornado...)
I thought i'm the One relized it
That first attack is basically free TP
Probably the reason it was removed due to being WAY too easy
Fr
Yeah kinda
Free tension points
Free toilet paper? Where?
the rad lookin spade attack actually looks very similar to one of berdly's attacks in chapter 2, i guess toby didnt want to completely abandon that rad lookin attack huh
I was thinking the same thing!
Yep, its Berdly’s tornado attack which he exclusively uses in his normal route 2nd fight. diagonally flying projectiles that slightly change their firing angle each wave.
also undyne
Or it looks like undyne (the undying)'s attack when you do genocide
It is quite rad lookin
Jevil, having unused attacks?PFFFFF
HE CAN DO ANYTHING!
He can use all those attacks, he just chooses not to
Can he divide by zero?
@@rainsenpai7241 yes.
Of course, he still follows normal laws of math.
@@mouthlesshater Can he stop time? Can he throw knives at a old man? Can he reset the universe?
@@JAppleSeedB yes.
I usually call the harder version of the mix chaos bombs "The Royal Flush"
As in Jevil will royally flush you down the toilet
@@PancakemonsterFO4 lol, but really because he was the royal jester
It's a fair name for it, but the mixed chaos bomb is seemingly just referred to as CHAOS BOMB by the game
@@ThePoketrix all caps?
htf flashbacks
makes you realize how important the sound effects were to this fight
I knew Jevil's fight seemed easier than it should have been!
1:57 Seems fair and balanced, _right?_
Ouch, that looks like it hurrs
No Hitters: Yep. Totally right
@@black_m1n825*Merg
@@haelstrom101 Merg isn't doing No Hits. Stop. He's no longer a No Hitter
@@black_m1n825 Says who? He no hit one of the fan games he played the other day. Of course, you'd know that if you were subscribed
devil's knife: deals 1 damage
impossible
@tntcreeperindo YT easy deals 1 hard deals 124
/75
@@kianamoore3879 Devil's Knife: 1.
Jevil: OP, lemme fix that real quick.
(Scribbles an extra 2 & 4.)
@tntcreeperindo YT DUDE, where have you been man? At least comment on my videos or something. I've been trying hard to have you back in my life again. Or perhaps you don't want that.
@tntcreeperindo YT It's me, Ragil, by the way.
The last one seems very reminiscent of one of Undynes general method of attacking (when your soul is red, anyway).
I thought the same
i think its reused for the berdly boss
@@MrcreeperDXD777 it's not the exact same, but yeah, Berdly does have a similar attack.
the jevilknife attacks look less cool than the official ones, and the diamond bombs are even more of a TP farm than the clover bombs, but some of the spade attacks are really cool
They’re called spades not clovers
@@deadchannel5054 Actually, the clovers are called clubs
I mean, it's unfinished. Of course it doesn't look impressive.
A lot of languages translates to cover from clubs
The clover bombs are the hardest attack for me...
2:51 **Undyne the Undying flashbacks**
The rad looking spade attack was reused as berdlys tornados, THATS why I had so much difficulty dodging them.
I only got hit by them when the box was diagonal
FR THO
I like how you can see the Jevilsknife attacks were cut early because the texture isn’t finished. The area in which it rotates from is still visible, and so is the reference point for where you take damage
It's pretty cool how this shows how much thought goes into balancing the patterns and making sure they're not too hard, but also not too easy
"Q: Will you add anything else to the DEMO?
A: I don't think so.
It's possible Chapter 1 might receive some changes upon the release of the game, but I'm not sure."
Who knows, maybe Toby will include some of those unusued attacks to the Jevil fight.
If so yes! It'd be see a remaster for him!
Or maybe a jevil fight in chapter 2
they can reuse the patterns for other enemies
Well the game will be released in chapters so I don't see this happening
@@eyald.8252 actually no toby fox clearly stated he intend on releasing all off the game and not chapter by chapter
Seeing this would make his fight a lot harder and the fact that he's also harder than Spamton Neo even without these attacks
It makes sense Spamton isn't as hard as Jevil, he's almost a normal guy.
I say almost cuz he really isnt
Well, the first attack and the beta-Jevil's knife seem very easy. And the first attack especially is basically free TP!
Spamton neo stronger
I find Spamton NEO harder. First tried Jevil, still trying to beat Spamton NEO.
Yeah, Jevil is a pain. The only boss harder than him is snowgrave Spamton.
I wonder how the upcoming chapters will challenge us.
OoOooh
Also I can see why those devil's knife attacks are usused I mean the sprite is bad and the attack seems too simple and easy to dodge but that cool spade attack seems like it should be in the game
Also first
@@QuirrelSquad nope ur 6th
@@oofedultra bruh I click Don the notification and commented at 30 seconds smh
Cri
@@QuirrelSquad SHUT
"I can do anything!"
"Can you use your unused attacks?"
"I said...I CAN DO ANYTHING"
He can, he just chooses not to
He can do anything but that doesn’t mean he’s gonna do everything
Seeing Jevil use one of King's/Lancer's attacks is cool.
His gimmick was that he was able to use any of the suite attacks, so ig that’s why that was a thing.
see the reason these are unused is because he CAN do anything, he just doesn't WANT to
Other than the kings spade attack and the rad lookin spade attack, I can see why these were all cut.
2:52 look similar to one of Berdly’s moves in his boss battle.
"some of these are pretty cool! the unused devilsknife is actually really clean looking and fun to dodge, these attacks aren't that bad at all-"
[Carousel but harder]
"kill it with fire"
The second used version is easier than the first used version
Hey, Berdly uses an attack very similar to the last one now!
dude,with these attack's you would basically lose to him in a minute.
I think at 3:00 Toby reused that for the berdly fight but I’m not sure
2:32 he really said THINK FAST CHUCKLENUTS
I like the touhou mechanic of "grazing"
Actually, these are pretty cool. Dunno why they weren't used.
Hard mode perhaps?
I see why devils knife hard was removed it one shot your entire team
first one gives free TP
The devilsknife is better, the diamonds are introduced after with the chaos bomb and give too much TP, the ring around and carrousel are just pre version, the first spade attack is bad and the second spade attack is too similar to devilsknife
the rad spade attack is too "orderly" for Jevil. At least Burghley(?) uses them
devilsknife change changed the entire fight. I didn't notice until I fought spamton and it was easier than jevil, but what makes the fight hard is the attacks coming from every direction. Chaos bomb and knives are unpredictable, spades come from sides and in rings, diamonds come from the floor, final chaos from the ceiling, and the carosel from the left but also having the appearance of coming from the right on one of them. The fight wouldn't be the same with these old attacks and it really shows how much effort Toby put into this
neat seeing a bit of Toby's development in there.
I've started work on a Shmup to realize how simple it is to create objects, but realizing how, from a game balancing perspective, hard it is to actually put it all together in a way that's fun.
Seeing how others do it is a first step to making it yourself.
He can do anything...
*Well, other than the attacks they left out that is.*
Nono he can still use them...
He just didnt cuz he..
Uhm..
Didnt want to!
There is a diference between "can" and "will".
Those last two are full of undyne energy. Like that second version of the radial spear attack that everyone freaks out at when they see it for the first time. Also happens to be my favorite attack in the game because there’s so much going on yet it’s still somehow a fair challenge
I feel that all these unused attack except for the early jevils knife could of made the battle more fun tbh
Your the lucky comment!!
People got so bored waiting for chapter 2 that *they're still digging in the files of chapter 1!*
Chapter 2 is out
@@thisisahumanlol8255 I know, It just took *extremely long* to release due to testing multiple engines, Corona Virus, several other factors.
the last attack seems to have been repurposed for berdly
Jevil: I can do anything!!!
_Except have good unused attacks..._
Early Spade Ring: Have you ever dodged 5 bullets at once?
Kris: No..
Early Spade Ring: *W O U L D Y O U L I K E T O ?*
I see why they were removed
Toby knew as a touhou player that those attacks have a way to cheese them whiout any real complex movement
maybe toby scrapped these attacks to use in a second jevil fight????
Doubt it
The return of Jevil
@@Cuttlef1sh yes
*Chapter 2 intensifies*
@@TheRealSuperKirby *y e s*
0:16 i know that attack it has been used for a deltarune chapter 1 noelle edition where you doing a snowgrave in chapter 1 you at the end fights against jevil and when you deplete his hp he like spamton will towering his defense and his only one attack will be a this crystals
This would have been a great use after the Final Chaos attack.
Damn Deltatune feels like it was released a few months ago
I keep forgetting it was a 2018 game
SAME LOL
The rad spade attack looks very similar to one of berdlys attacks but with spades instead of tornadoes
that rad looking spade attack got repurposed for berdly
Oh yeah that's my favorite one *rad lookin' spade attack*
2:51
Coming here after chapter 2 is out, toby, that sly bastard, he reused this for berdly didnt he
I think that spade attack got turned into one of Berdly's wind attacks, the one with two sets of four tornados that come real fast one after the other.
That last spade attack looks a lot like Berdly’s tornado attack come to think of it
1:07 mm yes much easier (gets hit repeatedly by the attack), super easssyyyyy-
It seems the attack at 2:50 was reused for the berdly fight (albeit reworked, and a tad slower)
So wait you're telling me Jevil used to have an even _bigger_ arsenal of attacks!?
2:50
This may've been repurposed for Berdly, eventually?
Thats what it looked like to me to haha
I like how at 1:28 it looked like you were dancing to the song lol
The way jevil says “metamorphosis” is fucking hilarious
y'know, that last attack kinda looks like one of berdley's attacks
edited comment moment
@@bitchasshoe8719 unfunny reply moment
2:51 I feel like Berdly's tornadoes-to-center attack is the spiritual successor to this, since its almost the same behavior but the bullet box is tilted and they all collide and vanish in the middle.
yeah it's very likely that this unsued bullet pattern design was polished up and reused for that one
2:50 this attack got reuse in chapter 2
Final boss from chapter 7 is 99% probably going to have some unused attacks from bosses
1:58 im glad they didnt add this
2:50
Heyyy that looks like one of Berdly's attacks!
Wouldn't it be cool if Jevil could utilize significantly harder versions of attacks from other enemies in the game?
I had that thought when he used the attack from the spade king.
the last spade attack pretty much lines up perfectly with the pace of his battle music
I'm REALLY glad that the early spade ring went unused.
Some of those attacks are pretty interesting, by the way.
2:50 is berdly’s attack similar
Looks like jevil can truly do anything. Even use attacks that Toby himself removed.
yes
Always found it weird that Jevils attack pattern is fixed and always the same.
Would've been cool that his pattern would also be chaos and he could use any attack whenever he wants (Aside from his final chaos).
All you'd had to do then is add multible intensities to the attacks, so that they're slower/weaker at the beginning and harder towards the end of the fight and you're done.
Except early devil´s knife, all of these would be so cool if they were in the fight
Thanks, i had forgotten which which drawer i put them in in
No one's going to speak about the perfect rythm at 0:22?
sigh. ill always find new stuff about this game. im so glad a community as dedicated as this exists because ill never see this normally myself yk?
Jevil can quite literally do anything now that he has all of his attacks restored
It really becomes "the true and real chaos."
But can he dodge his own attacks?
I can see why the solo chaos diamond blocks were unused, they’d home in, plus there are people who don’t react fast
They look pretty easy to avoid to me
Just like the solo clover bombs they're actually pretty easy to dodge when you know how to (just moving on the y axis) but can get hard of you move everywhere to try dodging
2:14,thats how fast the carousel is the switch version
Never seen what the pc version looks like, but ok
The mixed chaos bombs are a thing in the fight
I really like the unused spades attacks especially, they could have replaced the ones we got to be honest
Well, at least this video explains why you see a scythe when you corrupt deltarune.
Are there any other unused attacks in Deltarune, or even Undertale?
well off of the top of my head i remember Asgore has an unused attack where he let out a war cry and swung his trident at you. i think the trident alternated between blue and orange so it was dodgeable. Toby deemed the attack too unlike Asgore so he scrapped it.
@@NutBreadMSMC That one was completely cut. I’m talking about attacks like these that are in the game, just not used.
@@SK-by6qd yeah that was the only unused one I could think of.
I am 90% sure there are, but i can't remember rn, check the cutting floor site for undertale, they have ALL the unused stuff there
@@NutBreadMSMC asgore have two unused weapons , a spear and a scythe
last attack looks like one of berdly’s tornado attacks
0:06 just to skip the fight sence of chris
2:50 omfg its berdly's tornado attack
1:19 hmm why was this taken out
because it was easy to cheese
@@DavidGaming69I think the original commenter was being sarcastic
@@angrybird121 bro this was 10 months ago💀
That rad lookingspade attack looks kind of like one of berdly's attack in chapter 2
The unused spade attacks remind me of undyne the undying attacks
2:51 that attack seems similar to what Berdly uses
Video idea: Make undertale/Deltarune music using the TP gain sound effect
He can do anything, even dischart attacks
0:59 M E T A M O R P H O S I S
177013 Memories Intensifies
The spade ring-around frustrated me enough, I don't know if my heart could have survived those other spade attacks
2:45 look at Ralsei's HP
69 LOL
?
NICE
2:38 nitendo players cant even dodge the normal one
Isn't there a gap to the circling spades where you can stay and not get hit?
Old ringout and the Spade spam at the end is pretty cool
0:49 ???? Unused?? Okay the video is 9 months old and stuff could git changed but he used this attack in my game
he said "easier", so it is unused, they made it harder
When Jevil says he can do anything, he means that he is a wild card, so he can literally do the move of any card in the Dark World of the classroom. It's not that meta lol. Hence the spades like KING
The last unused attack is basically Touhou.
*No hate, please don't hurt me,*
*bonk* go to Touhou prison
No
Yes it is get him out of basement