I enjoyed the interview. We had Alias as an admin on our Xbox Generation Zero Club. I am also an admin there. When the owner of the club asked me if I thought Alias would be a good admin, I jumped and told him how much Alias was involved in the community as a whole. We really enjoyed having Alias as an admin. I still enjoy the game. Just don't play it as often. I do put the blame on the lead designer ASH right now for the state of the game and DLC's and lack of good content. If you look at when map revamps stopped and actual map/story content stopped it's about when ASH took over. Maybe ASH can pull it out of its death spiral, but I seriously doubt it..... Next interview Tenebris Infinite!!!!!!
This was a great watch mate, Very enjoyable to hear you two talk about a game/community that has been a big part of my "online" life for years. Would love to join in for an episode myself to talk about GZ and other things/games you cover on your channels!
He is right when they said that if they did new story dlc, something to extend what is already there they would bring a lot of players back. My brother is an original. He got the game on Steam when it came out. He bought the dlc and killed the reaper a couple times with me. He wasn’t interested in continuing without new story and he has been talking about that empty island forever. Me on the other hand, he bought it for me as a gift and I have played it for the last 3.5 months. Have over 200 hours and have really enjoyed myself. I actually gave my brother all the new 5 c weapons including a new laser rifle, and he looked at it and said kewl, I don’t need to play more now since there is no story. So yeah, he had a point. Also the guys that suffered through the growing phase want to see more from the game because it has potential. And other than finishing the story line myself, I don’t see much to continue. I have all the 5c and 6 c guns now, and. I just messing with different augment combos at this point. Have several full cement bases. Etc. they need more to do that just some new boss and new guns. Story needs to be added to move it forward. Expand on the Russian stuff, etc, or even the allies like American side. Something, add a story line for vulture for god sakes. Man lol.
Great initiative, doing this kind of episode. Good to hear from Alias. As another day 1 player of GZ I fall in line behind everything you said. Man, I long back to how GZ was in it’s first year.
I totally agree with you Wired when it came to the original, sneak about horror game...... getting to the first church achievement with the weapons you start witht, then look at how massive the map looked on the screen and having to run and unlock safe houses whilst getting shot at. Great times !
This was a very enjoyable discussion to listen to! Something that I find interesting is how often it feels like they overhype things. Such as the daily missions mentioned. I tried it out when that update came out and I completed a mission in around a minute. The 10 to 20 length was just a lie. And I'm sure they have done this before. For the base assault update I remember them saying it was this groundbreaking system that makes each playthrough unique. I'm not a developer so I can be wrong but the wording is just weird to me.
Very interesting and thank you. I am a long time player over 3500hrs. This last update has caused me the most issues. Especially with transferring items from your inventory to the plundra or recycle bench. Also mysteriously losing carry weapons and augmentations and attachments. I have all the DLCs as to support this game but the game is getting so bloated with DLCs. As you stated, we want more story. Also we would a new island. Love playing co-op and at a ripe old age of 70. It's been very social to play regularly with a group like minded players.
Thanks to everyone that gave it a listen. Here's the breakdown of what I found coming back after a year. We've pencilled in a catch up for this time in a year - but we will see 🙂 New game logo thumbnail annoys me Game loads it quicker into menu Character selection still works, all resources still there Plundra loading is choppy to load, navigating between tabs does feel smoother Plundra loading on mule is 20 seconds between actions, icons always playing catch up in inventory The 1600 weight limit now is nice, but flatlines any argument that this is a survival game. Map navigation is still choppy especially in multiplayer Gun augmentations - Skill tree 2.0 / Base game weekly challenges discussed in Discord 2 years ago Gameplay lag /Marden Command Bunker / N.E Himfjall / FOA52 / Central Farmlands / North Coast drag Same bases in the same region Still no Apolcalypse base defense on Himfjall / Apolcalypse Only PIGEON PRIME BREAKDOWN Take a Soviet firebird Paint it black Give it purple afterburners Give it red reaper shields for effect Take original firebird with falling mortars and lasers, swap for falling crates with soviet balls ( Base Game content ) Add flamethrower from base game / add rockets from turret DLC pack Is the combat challenging - no Spawning Pigeon Prime feels like a lot of effort for not a lot of reward Still ghost machines tracking on hud, no enemy there Ghost audio of machines still remaining in the world on loop Nice separate DLC tile menu, nice and clear for that extra revenue New gun working as intended Mini gun eats 350, with horrendous bullet spread past close range Desert eagle is underpowered, no attachments, and no .50 ammo still the same .44 Grenade launcher reload too slow, damage at distance is weak SPAS-12 is less powerful than a 12G Pump with Birdshot Weapons being deleted from inventory Companion mission is weak, lacks storyline, too easy Forced companion weight, also doesn’t tally when picked up Companion weight is incorrect 1.0 kg against Klauke 17 EXP 5.0 kg Mini mule stuck in storage The live stream reveal was weak and diluted The twitter has tags very Blizzard and un necessary Historic twitch videos non existent, numbers have flatlined, YT videos have died off Help us playtest performance improvements still out there SALE SALE SALE PlayStation Plus Aug 2023 / how’s the 60fps update Feb Discord hashtag on game dashboard Steam, XB, PS player count low Release the old builds Ash- lead designer hopefully some vision on story and game preservation Plushie is wasted time, energy and resoources Cosmetic Skin Packs Street Arm, Prototype, FNIX, Apocalypse, Companion, Flakmoped - > Reinforced Flakmoped DLC SNOWBALL EVENT LOOOL Metal Cassette merch - discord suggestion 3 years ago 5 Years FNIX Post - no FNIX voiceover to celebrate Resupply Avents / Procedural Missions - yawn Trailers still weak - ( MY PET PUP actually very good ) In summary : Lots and lots of paid distractions, no actual story development.
I Liked the Interview! As a Veteran GZ Player i was fall in Love with since Day 1, but today i'm affraid to say that it's being over. The only reason why i still playing it is because i bought this for a Friend that has not taste GZ. So it's fun to see some one enjoy it even if it's not the same anymore. One Day i would Play it for my own once again and Spice it a little bit more than in Guerilla difficulty. Maybe with the entire risk to loose all the loot you had in your Inventory or/and a Limited Weapon Tier to make it harder in Lategame. But for now, i rarely go back again. I would love to see Tenebris in a Podcast, even if i doubt he's gonna agree with since he said himself on a Stream he prefer to not looking back and keep moving forward so he does not need to Worry anymore and still being Optimist. But who knows. Maybe he can give you some word's, but probably not more than that. We will see.
I think the game needs to update the robots they need to update the AI of the enemy’s add another type of enemy also have the robots roam in squads and have them call back up to make the fights harder and a new dlc story too and make enemies scary new sounds and have some the enemies look for you when you hiding a better sneaking mechanic
Thank you for bringing Alias on for a long chat and yes a lot of what you guys have to say is true. Gen Zero is not what it was at lunch, and I miss those days when Prototype Hunters and Runners were a threat not because I was new to the game but because I knew I had to be smart when I took on these machines because my weapons were 1 crown and ammo supply was limited. My favorite part of the game is still in the Archipelago Region with my level 1 - 10 level character with no 3 crown weapons.
The Console Version is also massively flawed with freezes or massive fps drops by just firing your weapons. Or the auto aim that increasingly make it harder to shoot moving targets. I also agree with the fact that it's really hard to support the game by buying their DLC or to recommend it to friends with it's actual state, even going so far as to tell them to not buy it. I remember too, back then, when the game was bloody scary and i was using traps and bait to take out runners and hunters, lol.
I really liked the interview, great job putting it together. I agree with others requesting you have Kilroy Plays and Tenebris Infinite on. I would love to hear their comments and perspective on GZ. Keep up the great content.
You hit the nail right on the head. I am a day one player and havnt played it for a while now because as you said i miss how the game was when it first came out.That stealthy hard having to hide and sneak your way past machines because you had nothing decent to fight them with and you actually were scared to go near them. Now for the past two years it has deffo been a massive cash grab and the devs are so Ignorant as to what we have been asking for with a massive new storyline. STOP with the bullshit weapons packs leave the game alone if you cant be arsed putting a massive new storyline in i bet half of the crashes are because they have shoved that much crap into the game it cant handle it. There are islands there dying to be opened up. Maybe they havnt a clue how to advance the storyline. Here is one for you make Generation Zero 2 take a decade down the line into the 90,s where the machines have advanced onto a new continent nd have advanced intech but bring the stealthy horror aspect to the game back its what made the game.
I agree with Todd as I was also one of the admins for the Xbox club until I took a step away from the game it would be nice if we could have mods in the game like in Fallout there is so much that could be added to the game. Now that the update came out, I have been playing lately but it would be nice if enemies spawn in a lot more because there can be times where I'm running around and see nothing and I'm not trying to do base defense the whole time plus it seems like they did away with alot of the stim spawns in the game and since you can't dupe items now if I'm out and go down I have to respawn at a safe house and run back or use radios when you use to be able to have a bunch of stims and get back up to stay in the battle longer. I would love to get in on a chat with you about the game
You should try getting Kilroy Plays and Tenebris Infinite on (you and those two are basiclly the 3 most known generation zero youtubers) i know they both have quit/taken pauses from generation Zero but it would be really nice to hear their opinions on the game at its currents! Hopefully you and this series can help give the devs advice and steer them in the right direction! All the love from a swedish fan🙏🏻
I've only been playing since bicycles were added but even I can see how this game has changed from a survival focused game to a straight up arcade shooter with whacky wonder weapons. I've felt that change in other games I'm veteraned in. So I get how it might feel for the vets of this game that have had to watch their game become a cash cow of pointless add-ons. . I myself just want new story content, I'm tired of these new paid for weapons. Especially pay to win content like the mobile base that is the flak moped dlc. Never have to go home if it's always with you. Sensor jammer, no need to sneak around tactfully if you're just straight up invisible. And Himjfall, want guaranteed 5 crown guns and attachments? Well 99% of the apocalypse class enemies you're ever going farm them for are on that island. . Quite sad.
Man, game fell off, honestly all the complaints I could have are nothing new, people have brought them up again and again. Arguably the only game Im "following" despite having taken a 4-5 month break, before putting an hour into the companion update like a week after it came out, and then never touching it again. Honestly though, I dont know how they could fix things for me.
I enjoyed the interview. We had Alias as an admin on our Xbox Generation Zero Club. I am also an admin there. When the owner of the club asked me if I thought Alias would be a good admin, I jumped and told him how much Alias was involved in the community as a whole. We really enjoyed having Alias as an admin. I still enjoy the game. Just don't play it as often. I do put the blame on the lead designer ASH right now for the state of the game and DLC's and lack of good content. If you look at when map revamps stopped and actual map/story content stopped it's about when ASH took over. Maybe ASH can pull it out of its death spiral, but I seriously doubt it..... Next interview Tenebris Infinite!!!!!!
Hey bro how are you?
I seriously miss him. I watched his lives while I was in school. I really wish him the best of luck.
This was a great watch mate, Very enjoyable to hear you two talk about a game/community that has been a big part of my "online" life for years. Would love to join in for an episode myself to talk about GZ and other things/games you cover on your channels!
He is right when they said that if they did new story dlc, something to extend what is already there they would bring a lot of players back. My brother is an original. He got the game on Steam when it came out. He bought the dlc and killed the reaper a couple times with me. He wasn’t interested in continuing without new story and he has been talking about that empty island forever. Me on the other hand, he bought it for me as a gift and I have played it for the last 3.5 months. Have over 200 hours and have really enjoyed myself. I actually gave my brother all the new 5 c weapons including a new laser rifle, and he looked at it and said kewl, I don’t need to play more now since there is no story. So yeah, he had a point. Also the guys that suffered through the growing phase want to see more from the game because it has potential. And other than finishing the story line myself, I don’t see much to continue. I have all the 5c and 6 c guns now, and. I just messing with different augment combos at this point. Have several full cement bases. Etc. they need more to do that just some new boss and new guns. Story needs to be added to move it forward. Expand on the Russian stuff, etc, or even the allies like American side. Something, add a story line for vulture for god sakes. Man lol.
Great initiative, doing this kind of episode. Good to hear from Alias. As another day 1 player of GZ I fall in line behind everything you said. Man, I long back to how GZ was in it’s first year.
I totally agree with you Wired when it came to the original, sneak about horror game...... getting to the first church achievement with the weapons you start witht, then look at how massive the map looked on the screen and having to run and unlock safe houses whilst getting shot at. Great times !
This was a very enjoyable discussion to listen to! Something that I find interesting is how often it feels like they overhype things. Such as the daily missions mentioned. I tried it out when that update came out and I completed a mission in around a minute. The 10 to 20 length was just a lie. And I'm sure they have done this before. For the base assault update I remember them saying it was this groundbreaking system that makes each playthrough unique. I'm not a developer so I can be wrong but the wording is just weird to me.
Very interesting and thank you. I am a long time player over 3500hrs. This last update has caused me the most issues. Especially with transferring items from your inventory to the plundra or recycle bench. Also mysteriously losing carry weapons and augmentations and attachments. I have all the DLCs as to support this game but the game is getting so bloated with DLCs. As you stated, we want more story. Also we would a new island. Love playing co-op and at a ripe old age of 70. It's been very social to play regularly with a group like minded players.
Thanks to everyone that gave it a listen. Here's the breakdown of what I found coming back after a year. We've pencilled in a catch up for this time in a year - but we will see 🙂
New game logo thumbnail annoys me
Game loads it quicker into menu
Character selection still works, all resources still there
Plundra loading is choppy to load, navigating between tabs does feel smoother
Plundra loading on mule is 20 seconds between actions, icons always playing catch up in inventory
The 1600 weight limit now is nice, but flatlines any argument that this is a survival game.
Map navigation is still choppy especially in multiplayer
Gun augmentations - Skill tree 2.0 / Base game weekly challenges discussed in Discord 2 years ago
Gameplay lag /Marden Command Bunker / N.E Himfjall / FOA52 / Central Farmlands / North Coast drag
Same bases in the same region
Still no Apolcalypse base defense on Himfjall / Apolcalypse Only
PIGEON PRIME BREAKDOWN
Take a Soviet firebird
Paint it black
Give it purple afterburners
Give it red reaper shields for effect
Take original firebird with falling mortars and lasers, swap for falling crates with soviet balls ( Base Game content )
Add flamethrower from base game / add rockets from turret DLC pack
Is the combat challenging - no
Spawning Pigeon Prime feels like a lot of effort for not a lot of reward
Still ghost machines tracking on hud, no enemy there
Ghost audio of machines still remaining in the world on loop
Nice separate DLC tile menu, nice and clear for that extra revenue
New gun working as intended
Mini gun eats 350, with horrendous bullet spread past close range
Desert eagle is underpowered, no attachments, and no .50 ammo still the same .44
Grenade launcher reload too slow, damage at distance is weak
SPAS-12 is less powerful than a 12G Pump with Birdshot
Weapons being deleted from inventory
Companion mission is weak, lacks storyline, too easy
Forced companion weight, also doesn’t tally when picked up
Companion weight is incorrect 1.0 kg against Klauke 17 EXP 5.0 kg
Mini mule stuck in storage
The live stream reveal was weak and diluted
The twitter has tags very Blizzard and un necessary
Historic twitch videos non existent, numbers have flatlined, YT videos have died off
Help us playtest performance improvements still out there
SALE SALE SALE
PlayStation Plus Aug 2023 / how’s the 60fps update Feb
Discord hashtag on game dashboard
Steam, XB, PS player count low
Release the old builds
Ash- lead designer hopefully some vision on story and game preservation
Plushie is wasted time, energy and resoources
Cosmetic Skin Packs Street Arm, Prototype, FNIX, Apocalypse, Companion,
Flakmoped - > Reinforced Flakmoped DLC
SNOWBALL EVENT LOOOL
Metal Cassette merch - discord suggestion 3 years ago
5 Years FNIX Post - no FNIX voiceover to celebrate
Resupply Avents / Procedural Missions - yawn
Trailers still weak - ( MY PET PUP actually very good )
In summary :
Lots and lots of paid distractions, no actual story development.
I Liked the Interview! As a Veteran GZ Player i was fall in Love with since Day 1, but today i'm affraid to say that it's being over. The only reason why i still playing it is because i bought this for a Friend that has not taste GZ. So it's fun to see some one enjoy it even if it's not the same anymore. One Day i would Play it for my own once again and Spice it a little bit more than in Guerilla difficulty. Maybe with the entire risk to loose all the loot you had in your Inventory or/and a Limited Weapon Tier to make it harder in Lategame. But for now, i rarely go back again.
I would love to see Tenebris in a Podcast, even if i doubt he's gonna agree with since he said himself on a Stream he prefer to not looking back and keep moving forward so he does not need to Worry anymore and still being Optimist. But who knows. Maybe he can give you some word's, but probably not more than that. We will see.
I think the game needs to update the robots they need to update the AI of the enemy’s add another type of enemy also have the robots roam in squads and have them call back up to make the fights harder and a new dlc story too and make enemies scary new sounds and have some the enemies look for you when you hiding a better sneaking mechanic
Thank you for bringing Alias on for a long chat and yes a lot of what you guys have to say is true.
Gen Zero is not what it was at lunch, and I miss those days when Prototype Hunters and Runners were a threat not because I was new to the game but because I knew I had to be smart when I took on these machines because my weapons were 1 crown and ammo supply was limited. My favorite part of the game is still in the Archipelago Region with my level 1 - 10 level character with no 3 crown weapons.
I think it was better originally, I started playing it on day 3 of it coming out
The Console Version is also massively flawed with freezes or massive fps drops by just firing your weapons. Or the auto aim that increasingly make it harder to shoot moving targets. I also agree with the fact that it's really hard to support the game by buying their DLC or to recommend it to friends with it's actual state, even going so far as to tell them to not buy it.
I remember too, back then, when the game was bloody scary and i was using traps and bait to take out runners and hunters, lol.
I really liked the interview, great job putting it together. I agree with others requesting you have Kilroy Plays and Tenebris Infinite on. I would love to hear their comments and perspective on GZ. Keep up the great content.
You hit the nail right on the head. I am a day one player and havnt played it for a while now because as you said i miss how the game was when it first came out.That stealthy hard having to hide and sneak your way past machines because you had nothing decent to fight them with and you actually were scared to go near them. Now for the past two years it has deffo been a massive cash grab and the devs are so Ignorant as to what we have been asking for with a massive new storyline. STOP with the bullshit weapons packs leave the game alone if you cant be arsed putting a massive new storyline in i bet half of the crashes are because they have shoved that much crap into the game it cant handle it. There are islands there dying to be opened up. Maybe they havnt a clue how to advance the storyline. Here is one for you make Generation Zero 2 take a decade down the line into the 90,s where the machines have advanced onto a new continent nd have advanced intech but bring the stealthy horror aspect to the game back its what made the game.
I agree with Todd as I was also one of the admins for the Xbox club until I took a step away from the game it would be nice if we could have mods in the game like in Fallout there is so much that could be added to the game. Now that the update came out, I have been playing lately but it would be nice if enemies spawn in a lot more because there can be times where I'm running around and see nothing and I'm not trying to do base defense the whole time plus it seems like they did away with alot of the stim spawns in the game and since you can't dupe items now if I'm out and go down I have to respawn at a safe house and run back or use radios when you use to be able to have a bunch of stims and get back up to stay in the battle longer. I would love to get in on a chat with you about the game
You should try getting Kilroy Plays and Tenebris Infinite on (you and those two are basiclly the 3 most known generation zero youtubers) i know they both have quit/taken pauses from generation Zero but it would be really nice to hear their opinions on the game at its currents! Hopefully you and this series can help give the devs advice and steer them in the right direction! All the love from a swedish fan🙏🏻
Never enjoyed Base building/Base assaults. Don't do em!
No more Reapers for me then!
PS. Frame- rate drops game breaking!!!
I've only been playing since bicycles were added but even I can see how this game has changed from a survival focused game to a straight up arcade shooter with whacky wonder weapons. I've felt that change in other games I'm veteraned in. So I get how it might feel for the vets of this game that have had to watch their game become a cash cow of pointless add-ons.
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I myself just want new story content, I'm tired of these new paid for weapons. Especially pay to win content like the mobile base that is the flak moped dlc. Never have to go home if it's always with you. Sensor jammer, no need to sneak around tactfully if you're just straight up invisible. And Himjfall, want guaranteed 5 crown guns and attachments? Well 99% of the apocalypse class enemies you're ever going farm them for are on that island.
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Quite sad.
I need help... There 2 fat things on my mapp.. Name:reaper, Valcure💀
Get the Xbox update out plz to fix shock ammo
The new weapons is AUD$ 7.50 no where near a fiver.
He meant 5 GBP
Man, game fell off, honestly all the complaints I could have are nothing new, people have brought them up again and again. Arguably the only game Im "following" despite having taken a 4-5 month break, before putting an hour into the companion update like a week after it came out, and then never touching it again. Honestly though, I dont know how they could fix things for me.