Greyhound! They make wonderful pets. They are surprisingly lazy. They hardly moult, smell, dribble, etc. They are usually very quiet. They curl up surprisingly small. Go to a good rescue centre and they will match you and your requirements and situation to a hound with matching temperament and needs. Greyhound!
I'm not envying your winter wonderland! 🥶 I'm really looking forward to seeing the new Morini 3½. They seem to have done a really good job in paying homage to the original while still giving it a fresh, modern appearance. In a world of ubiquitous parallel twins, it's nice to see a small capacity v-twin alternative. I think the new model is 60⁰ rather than the 72⁰ of the original, but 60⁰ worked well in the original Aprilia v-twins, so it should be an engaging little powerplant. Of course, v-twins cost more to produce than parallel twins, so I hope there won't be too much of a price premium on the new 3½. On looks alone, it deserves to sell well. Hope to see you doing a road test when it's released. Stay warm!
Thanks for the comment Luddite. I do love a small capacity V twin. I rode the Keeway 302C and loved that 292cc V twin like a pocket harley. Really characterful engine. Looking forward to the new Moto Morini bikes but they are expected middle of the year apparently...
@@MindfulMotorcyclist In a similar vein to that V302C, have you seen the new AJS Sedona 250? I think it's got more than a hint of Indian in its silhouette, and at £4,600 might be an interesting test ride for the channel.
@@RewildwithSuzie I'm good thanks Suzie, I really like what you are doing with the channel. Moto morinei make class bikes, just a shame about the dealership network but hopefully in time they will do what needs to be done. Keep up the goodwork, can't wait for the live show, you will love it 👍
There are several Moto Morinis in the pipeline. One is a 650 cruiser which is available in some markets and the other is an update of the 350 V Twin that they did in the 70's and 80's.
Hi Sean, did you watch my review on the Seiemmezzo ? It’s a pretty quick bike, with amazing brakes and handling. A bit weighty for anything more than gravel tracks though, not that I tried it on any.
Great video thanks both. I love both the Moto Morini's road or scrambler but as I am more a road man so, I would probably go for the road version. Exciting times with the Live show coming with Willie (MindfulWillie Show). To kick things off my question for the show is: Do you both think the Royal Enfield range represents excellent value for money against the competition and if so, why do you both think this?
Morning guys my RE dealer here has them in and got to say the look pretty cool and well made to be honest, not sure how many Fanch has sold though I know he has sold a couple of the adventure, but the road bikes he is now selling cheap, at huge discount, whereas he can’t get any RE in quick enough, before it’s out the door. Looking forward to the 12th 👍 …. Pete 🇫🇷
Hi Pete, you are right. Morinis don't sell particulary in the UK where Enfields sell themselves. Midwest moto that I visit a lot has shall we say rotated their brands to have CF, Enfield and Indian, the Himalayan and 350 bikes have been selling through winter no problem at all. Oh is there anything you'd like us to chat about with Willie? Remember we know very little about older bikes haha
What you mean ? Are you talking about the heady days of thin tyres big power and hinged in the middle chassis and big screaming 2 stroke triples and twins, and lunatic wheels popping singles, good days simpler days, …… Pete 🇫🇷
Hi Guy's- I really don't know much about M.M. & they look (for me) just o.k.. I don't think that there anywhere close to as good looking as what Royal Enfield has to offer. Glad to see you out &walking around again. Have a beautiful day! Cheers!! Illinois, USA
@@MindfulMotorcyclistas a footnote, the journalists at the time, Si Hargreaves and Martin Fitz-Gibbons still refer to them as that on their podcast Front End Chatter.
Willie sent me over and I had to click the little bell icon. Did I miss the live stream? I’m in trouble again. 😂 When I think of scramblers, I think of Steve McQueen and his friends stripping unnecessary bits off their Triumph and Japanese road bikes back in the late 60’s and early 70’s so they could ride them in the deserts of So-Cal, Nevada, and Arizona. I think a few companies had bikes with High exhaust, Honda… though I can’t remember it’s designation. I’d never heard of a Tall Rounder here in the States. It’s a kinda cute name though. Motocross (MX) Enduro, Dual Sports, Trail Bikes, and Trials bikes and now ADV bikes come to mind. Harley had even lower bikes like making Sportsters in a Low designation, and even some of their Ultra Classics, and of course the Low Rider. Questions for you and Willie, are you as into wood as Willie? Are you into old cemeteries and ghost stories/sightings? Would you like to row with him and Mr TAYM? Please don’t throw Willie down the stairs! How do you feel about staining motorcycle seats? That’s all from the peanut gallery over here in coastal Nor-Cal. John aka pinkie
Sean's house requirements sound very much like mine were. When we were looking for our current house, Lisa (Mrs SteveW) was interested in the kitchen, the en suite and all of that gubbins - as long as it had a garage I was happy! 😂 I think I said on a previous video of yours that I really, really like the look of the Moto Morinis, probably more than most of the other Chinese bikes to be honest - but I kinda want to hear how people get on with them once they start to need work doing to them, or they're a few years old and need parts replaced. It's all well and good owning a brand new bike for a couple of years and then getting another one - but for people like me that tend to keep any vehicle for multiple years, I want to know what the after sales service is going to be like in years to come. I'd hate save money on the purchase price only to find I have to basically throw it away in a few years when there's no parts available for it - when you can buy from a more established brand, albeit at a higher initial purchase price. As for what dog to get - I said goodbye to my old Springer a year ago on 2nd January and still miss her. I'd have another spaniel in a heartbeat. We have a rescue Staffy-Lurcher cross as well, but she's getting on a bit now too and has arthritis so can't walk far. We do miss our three hour plus walks that we used to do with them when they were younger!
Thanks Steve for the lovely comment. I agree about Moto Morini, they need to get a bit of an established reputation for aftercare here in the UK and then I would be more likley to commit to ownership. Style wise I like them but parts supply is unproven...
Morini are generally very well designed and rock solid. There’s a new V2 750 coming out soon that looks nice and a new 3 1/2 which is absolutely gorgeous. I’ve had a Morini Corsaro Veloce 1200 for about 8 years with no problems at all. Goes like stink, corners beautifully and more grunt than a pedigree pig.
@@MindfulMotorcyclistthe original was awesome both visually and to ride. The new one is so gorgeous you could buy one, put it in front of the telly, and just sit and look at it. 😂 Plus owning a Morini is nice. It’s like an Alfa Romeo. Everyone should have one once.
Never had a scrambler , i always stick to the black stuff. I ride a shorty because of my age even though I'm 6ft tall, just mounting some of these big bikes can be very problematic when your past your best.
I sat on a Triumph Rocket III yesterday. Was day dreaming of a summers day and endless power. Then the reality hit home of having to push 300kg into a damp shed in the middle of winter. Light bikes are much more practical...
@@MindfulMotorcyclistI think the Morini 650 is reasonably high revving, but it depends what off-road you’re doing. For anything super technical, you wouldn’t be using a scrambler anyway so it’s not going to matter too much.
There is people putting nobbles on the New Honda GB350s and raising the front mud guard making them very efficient Scramblers, much lighter in weight than say a Bear650
I live alone with a single garage. However I have a monster conservatory. With no boss to prevent me. I have a big strip of Lino and I use it to clean service my pushbikes and motorcycles. Always feel guilty when I make a mess and what Mrs would have said . But it’s cold outside and wet. Roll Lino up jet wash it outside. Mop conservatory and brand new
Hi guys happy new year Being an Electrician we’ve just arrived at an MODefence site right in the middle of Buxton on a Break down to a pumping station for a farmers water supply Not good snow everywhere
I like the Motomorini bikes. Bear 🐻 🐻❄looks awesome but is tall bike.HondaCL 500 Scrambler is a nice bike & good for shorter riders great quality 47hp 43Nm not bad for a 500.
There reliability is bit of a concern for me as in international news there was news of ktm cylinder head blowing up and they are partner with cf moto. And other things is here in india they don't have any showroom that i am aware of.
Hi Sean and Suzie Sorry to go against everyones Opinions but i have just bought and a Moto Marini Seiemmezzo 650 SCR and ive been checking it out for the last 2 years at The ABR at Ragley bought it from Tim at midlife Clasics in Droitwich im only 10 moles away and i love it becau it has top Drawer equipment and i got it at less than New BSA goldstar 650 or the New R E Bear ,Rides Beautiful and my mates has bought the X Cape 650 3 weeks ago from Tim hes a top guy we wanted to support the small guy So hes happy as well Talk Soon Eric W
That's really great to hear, I want to support Tim as well. He's a good man and deserves to do well in business. I was told that not only the engine is based on Kawasaki but also the suspension which explains the good quality. I'm only 7 miles from him in Worcester! Congratulations on your new bike 🏍 👏 🙌 😀
one more thing, if MM did what BSA did and dropped the price to 5k it would be so much more popular over here, as it is the price seems quite steep considering the facts and competition/brands it is competing with
@MindfulMotorcyclist couldn't agree more, seen them at 4200 new 😱 mind blowing MM need to do that with certain models, if they don't they stay invisible
Same here, they charge extra as if they're an Italian exotica and not just another Chinese 650 using the old kawasaki parallel twin. The V twins look interesting though.
Zhongneng Vehicle Group also own a lot of scooter manufacturers which is why I worry what will happen to Moto Moroni. And I struggle to see it as a scrambler. The term scrambler has become somewhat conflated. Oxford dictionary- a motorcycle for racing over rough and hilly ground. It has very British heritage. In the late 1920’s, races were set in England that were all about how fast you can reach from one point to the other. Conquering whatever terrain laid on the way, the racers had to finish it in the shortest time possible. Scrambling spawned trials competition too. I guess today just think any motorcycle designed to, (or made to), be able to scramble about on surfaces other than metalled roads.
I don't think I could own a MM sadly, not until the get a little bit more under their belt here in the UK. Thanks for the scrambler classification as well, its a bit confusing and all done in the name of style these days IMO...
@ I’m never sure when a new brand (I can’t say manufacture because so many are linked), comes to the UK if it’s genuine interest in the UK market or test launch for other purposes. A good discussion maybe for your live session. Avoids conflict of Chinese values and opens up the whole UK market problems. Cost of entry, dealer network, potential sales volumes, rider engagement………..
@@MindfulMotorcyclistactual scramblers evolved into dual sports and offroad bikes. What we have now as scramblers is purely for aestetic reasons - but it works, same as why retro styled bikes came back. They look cool.
these bikes are scrambler style , most are far to heavy like adv's for any serious off roading , you are buying looks , trail bikes are more suited at around 130 kilo , but for best results - enduro at 110 kilo , these are expensive for a reason , top spec parts which are light weight , but need careful riding on road due to very high ground clearance and knobby tyres ;;
@@MindfulMotorcyclist watch my comment above , nathanthe postman ,,, a 110 kilo bike is well heavy enough when you tumble , i am not a good rider , but i have ridden with u.k.'s top enduro riders , they would laugh if you turned up on a heavy [ over120 ] bike , gentle trails yes , anything will do , but you will damage a 400 t, much more than a proper enduro or PROPER trail bike,, please watch the video ;
Enduros are crap for longer road journeys though and that’s a dry weight you’re mentioning. Honda nailed it with the CRF450L. They were/are top notch but expensive (based on the MX bike) and only available abroad now. 129kg WET weight. Also not for novices.
@@SteveInskip oh , yes , i can do about an hour on road on an enduro , ,, 300 2 stroke about 110 dry , 450 honda too much for novice , yam 450 easier , the point i am tying to get across for riders new to off road ,= is even an mx style bike is a lump when in rough stuff , i am annoyed that the bike industry is selling a dream that is a bit of a con , anything with shiny paint is mild use only ,,
You'll likely end up in a ditch if you try and off-road that Moto Morini SCR on anything other than a gravel road -- fashion over function written all over it as you intimated but it's likely a well made bike with, I think, a CF Moto made engine. The MM SCR has the same seat height as the road version, which tells you a lot...
I do suspect it has the same suspension as the STR version, hence the reason I'd like to test it. I also like the CF moto 700 CLX range of bikes but I think the same might apply, heavy and fashion not function...
The SCR is a great bike, the term scrambler however is a bit rich but that applies to most so called scramblers, the only real one imo is the Fantic - the SCR rides well, looks like nothing else which is a huge +ve and so long as you accept it for what it is you will love it, an off road bike it is not though for a few obvious reasons with weight and wheelsize immediately springing to mind, there is also the engine tune that is defo more road biased - it's more capable then the BSA of yours as it has better sussers but that's about it , i dare say the BSA engine is better suited to offroad due to its power delivery/torque curves 🙂- the 18/17 wheel sizes are an oddball but they add to the design, this is a form over function so far as off road is concerned. A wicked 'street scrambler' ad gravel bike yes, off road tracks to a small degree are ok, ground clearance is ok but not great and they send it with a weird half arsed plastic guard that doesn't really offer protection where it should. Look forward to seeing you on it - IF THEY are going to send you one for winter beg them to change the tyres for something more aggressive - that is advice, leave it with ya
Agree the Fantic scramblers are probably the strongest off road (the 500 not the 700) the Rally Explorer is probably about 200mm travel front and rear. I do highly rate the BSA engine but the suspension is far to small travel, if I could upgrade it a little that would help out but I do not know where to start on that...
@@MindfulMotorcyclist there are many suspension tuners in England and Wales who could sort it for you. It's not a DIY job as you'll need to swap the guts out Contact ktech, they are in the Midlands, they are world renowned and if they don't have a kit they will know someone to be able to point you in the right direction bb:
Even if the bikes are ok in terms of quality, reliability, longevity and parts availability, you must open your eyes to the fact that the Chinese state are using your money to fund their military advancement and stated intention to expand their control over more and more of the planet. They are already the most advanced military force in the world.
The last part is certainly not watertight. China has a history of isolationism (with the exception of the SCS which is their backyard) they have two carriers only and a few short years training in carrier operations (unlike the US which perfected this in WW2), their subs are noisy by western standards and their stealth aircraft untested. Their strategic force is under 1000 warheads compared to the US with 6000s. No blue water navy, no rapid deployment force, no power projection, no overseas bases to speak of or allies. You might have something regarding cyber but as I say to all these comments regarding a fear of China anyone with a geopolitics or strategic mind is more afraid of Russia...
@@MindfulMotorcyclist I agree Sean, the Russians are more of a problem at the moment but it has been heartening to see what heavy weather they have made of trying to reclaim Ukraine.
Happy New year to you both, i totally agree, moto morini is a great looking bike, motor for the masses loves them, great value aswell 👍🇬🇧🏍
It's a nice bike if it was a tad cheaper, then they could be onto something 😊
Greyhound!
They make wonderful pets.
They are surprisingly lazy.
They hardly moult, smell, dribble, etc.
They are usually very quiet.
They curl up surprisingly small.
Go to a good rescue centre and they will match you and your requirements and situation to a hound with matching temperament and needs.
Greyhound!
Absolutely
Thanks!
Morning guys....loving the weather!
Morning Bib, yes theres something about the snow. Also Malvern is apparently where C.S. lewis got the inspiration for Narnia...
I'm not envying your winter wonderland! 🥶 I'm really looking forward to seeing the new Morini 3½. They seem to have done a really good job in paying homage to the original while still giving it a fresh, modern appearance. In a world of ubiquitous parallel twins, it's nice to see a small capacity v-twin alternative. I think the new model is 60⁰ rather than the 72⁰ of the original, but 60⁰ worked well in the original Aprilia v-twins, so it should be an engaging little powerplant. Of course, v-twins cost more to produce than parallel twins, so I hope there won't be too much of a price premium on the new 3½. On looks alone, it deserves to sell well. Hope to see you doing a road test when it's released. Stay warm!
Thanks for the comment Luddite. I do love a small capacity V twin. I rode the Keeway 302C and loved that 292cc V twin like a pocket harley. Really characterful engine. Looking forward to the new Moto Morini bikes but they are expected middle of the year apparently...
@MindfulMotorcyclist Quick! Get your name down for a test ride!
@@MindfulMotorcyclist In a similar vein to that V302C, have you seen the new AJS Sedona 250? I think it's got more than a hint of Indian in its silhouette, and at £4,600 might be an interesting test ride for the channel.
I haven't, to be honest I don't know anything about AJS, but you're right small capacity bikes are my fav and I think also for people on the channel
Hopfully they will sort a MM for you. I really enjoyed the bikes.
Looking forward to the live 👍
Hiiii, how are you Steve? We're hoping we get the MM too, we saw that you loved it 😍
Thanks Steve!
@@RewildwithSuzie I'm good thanks Suzie, I really like what you are doing with the channel.
Moto morinei make class bikes, just a shame about the dealership network but hopefully in time they will do what needs to be done.
Keep up the goodwork, can't wait for the live show, you will love it 👍
There are several Moto Morinis in the pipeline. One is a 650 cruiser which is available in some markets and the other is an update of the 350 V Twin that they did in the 70's and 80's.
Exciting times for them, I do like them they just need to expand the dealerships and part supply. Some very cool bikes tho...
Hi Sean, did you watch my review on the Seiemmezzo ? It’s a pretty quick bike, with amazing brakes and handling. A bit weighty for anything more than gravel tracks though, not that I tried it on any.
I didn't watch it but i will do ASAP. I just love the looks of it tbh... 😍
Great video you 2 x
Thanks Mr 👍
Great video thanks both. I love both the Moto Morini's road or scrambler but as I am more a road man so, I would probably go for the road version. Exciting times with the Live show coming with Willie (MindfulWillie Show). To kick things off my question for the show is: Do you both think the Royal Enfield range represents excellent value for money against the competition and if so, why do you both think this?
Thanks William, I'll make sure we note down your question for the chat!
Morning guys my RE dealer here has them in and got to say the look pretty cool and well made to be honest, not sure how many Fanch has sold though I know he has sold a couple of the adventure, but the road bikes he is now selling cheap, at huge discount, whereas he can’t get any RE in quick enough, before it’s out the door. Looking forward to the 12th 👍 …. Pete 🇫🇷
Hi Pete, you are right. Morinis don't sell particulary in the UK where Enfields sell themselves. Midwest moto that I visit a lot has shall we say rotated their brands to have CF, Enfield and Indian, the Himalayan and 350 bikes have been selling through winter no problem at all. Oh is there anything you'd like us to chat about with Willie? Remember we know very little about older bikes haha
What you mean ? Are you talking about the heady days of thin tyres big power and hinged in the middle chassis and big screaming 2 stroke triples and twins, and lunatic wheels popping singles, good days simpler days, …… Pete 🇫🇷
Hi Guy's- I really don't know much about M.M. & they look (for me) just o.k.. I don't think that there anywhere close to as good looking as what Royal Enfield has to offer. Glad to see you out &walking around again. Have a beautiful day! Cheers!! Illinois, USA
Hi Larry, I know you are an RE fan, so am I. Are you interested in a Guerrilla or will you keep the Himalayan for now?
I'm looking to get the new 3 1/2... but obviously need more details, release date,price etcetera..
Thanks David, I'm interested in it too, and the new V twin bikes..
‘Tall-rounders’ was a name given to ADV’s by Bike Magazine about 15 years ago.
Cheers Steve 🙂
@@MindfulMotorcyclistas a footnote, the journalists at the time, Si Hargreaves and Martin Fitz-Gibbons still refer to them as that on their podcast Front End Chatter.
It's funny that MCN seems to position it as a new category basically sports bikes on stilts like the M1000XR etc..
Willie sent me over and I had to click the little bell icon. Did I miss the live stream?
I’m in trouble again. 😂
When I think of scramblers, I think of Steve McQueen and his friends stripping unnecessary bits off their Triumph and Japanese road bikes back in the late 60’s and early 70’s so they could ride them in the deserts of So-Cal, Nevada, and Arizona. I think a few companies had bikes with High exhaust, Honda… though I can’t remember it’s designation.
I’d never heard of a Tall Rounder here in the States. It’s a kinda cute name though.
Motocross (MX) Enduro, Dual Sports, Trail Bikes, and Trials bikes and now ADV bikes come to mind. Harley had even lower bikes like making Sportsters in a Low designation, and even some of their Ultra Classics, and of course the Low Rider.
Questions for you and Willie, are you as into wood as Willie? Are you into old cemeteries and ghost stories/sightings? Would you like to row with him and Mr TAYM? Please don’t throw Willie down the stairs! How do you feel about staining motorcycle seats?
That’s all from the peanut gallery over here in coastal Nor-Cal.
John aka pinkie
Thanks for the questions, noted down ready for Sunday 😀
@pinkiewerewolf I wouldn't ever dye a seat no, Willie is much braver than me when it comes to staining his motorcycle leather! 😂
@@RewildwithSuzie Yahoo!
@@MindfulMotorcyclist He is brave he will stain and re-stain again! I’m even too afraid to paint! 😂
Sean's house requirements sound very much like mine were. When we were looking for our current house, Lisa (Mrs SteveW) was interested in the kitchen, the en suite and all of that gubbins - as long as it had a garage I was happy! 😂
I think I said on a previous video of yours that I really, really like the look of the Moto Morinis, probably more than most of the other Chinese bikes to be honest - but I kinda want to hear how people get on with them once they start to need work doing to them, or they're a few years old and need parts replaced. It's all well and good owning a brand new bike for a couple of years and then getting another one - but for people like me that tend to keep any vehicle for multiple years, I want to know what the after sales service is going to be like in years to come. I'd hate save money on the purchase price only to find I have to basically throw it away in a few years when there's no parts available for it - when you can buy from a more established brand, albeit at a higher initial purchase price.
As for what dog to get - I said goodbye to my old Springer a year ago on 2nd January and still miss her. I'd have another spaniel in a heartbeat. We have a rescue Staffy-Lurcher cross as well, but she's getting on a bit now too and has arthritis so can't walk far. We do miss our three hour plus walks that we used to do with them when they were younger!
Thanks for your great comment and for sharing about your doggies ❤ we can't wait for a furry friend to join us soon!
Thanks Steve for the lovely comment. I agree about Moto Morini, they need to get a bit of an established reputation for aftercare here in the UK and then I would be more likley to commit to ownership. Style wise I like them but parts supply is unproven...
Morini are generally very well designed and rock solid. There’s a new V2 750 coming out soon that looks nice and a new 3 1/2 which is absolutely gorgeous. I’ve had a Morini Corsaro Veloce 1200 for about 8 years with no problems at all. Goes like stink, corners beautifully and more grunt than a pedigree pig.
A few people have spoken positively about the 3 1/2! I'm hopeful to have a go on that when it lands later in the year...
@@MindfulMotorcyclistthe original was awesome both visually and to ride. The new one is so gorgeous you could buy one, put it in front of the telly, and just sit and look at it. 😂 Plus owning a Morini is nice. It’s like an Alfa Romeo. Everyone should have one once.
Never had a scrambler , i always stick to the black stuff. I ride a shorty because of my age even though I'm 6ft tall, just mounting some of these big bikes can be very problematic when your past your best.
I sat on a Triumph Rocket III yesterday. Was day dreaming of a summers day and endless power. Then the reality hit home of having to push 300kg into a damp shed in the middle of winter. Light bikes are much more practical...
I have to say it, I love a scrambler.
If you’re wanting to play off-road a high revving low torque bottom end is exactly the opposite of what you want. You want high torque at low revs
You think the 650 engine is high reving? Quite a torquey P twin feel in my experience...
@@MindfulMotorcyclistI think the Morini 650 is reasonably high revving, but it depends what off-road you’re doing. For anything super technical, you wouldn’t be using a scrambler anyway so it’s not going to matter too much.
There is people putting nobbles on the New Honda GB350s and raising the front mud guard making them very efficient Scramblers, much lighter in weight than say a Bear650
That's very interesting, sounds like just my cup of tea... Thanks Oscar
I live alone with a single garage. However I have a monster conservatory. With no boss to prevent me. I have a big strip of Lino and I use it to clean service my pushbikes and motorcycles. Always feel guilty when I make a mess and what Mrs would have said . But it’s cold outside and wet. Roll Lino up jet wash it outside. Mop conservatory and brand new
I love stories like this, we have another friend Andy and his Ducati Diaval v4 lives in his house. Needless to say she is the only lady in his place!
How much coffee did Suzie drink????? 🤣🤣🤣
Haha, this is me on ZERO Caffeine, can you imagine what I'm like if I do drink some? This why I can't and don't 😂
As above, this is her just having drunk spring water 😂
Hi guys happy new year
Being an Electrician we’ve just arrived at an MODefence site right in the middle of Buxton on a Break down to a pumping station for a farmers water supply
Not good snow everywhere
Good luck Phil! Hope you don't get too cold!
@
We got ourt ok thanks Sean
Nightmare 😔😔
I like the Motomorini bikes.
Bear 🐻 🐻❄looks awesome but is tall bike.HondaCL 500 Scrambler is a nice bike & good for shorter riders great quality 47hp 43Nm not bad for a 500.
I am hearing the Bear is a little tall. Being 5'10'' and with a short ish inside leg that makes the bike a lot less desirable for me.
@MindfulMotorcyclist I'm the same but sure there be a 20mm lower seat & the seat is narrower be ok then.
There reliability is bit of a concern for me as in international news there was news of ktm cylinder head blowing up and they are partner with cf moto. And other things is here in india they don't have any showroom that i am aware of.
Well this engine is based on a Kawasaki ER6F motor not the 790 Ktm but you are right to be cautious...
Hi Sean and Suzie Sorry to go against everyones Opinions but i have just bought and a Moto Marini Seiemmezzo 650 SCR and ive been checking it out for the last 2 years at The ABR at Ragley bought it from Tim at midlife Clasics in Droitwich im only 10 moles away and i love it becau it has top Drawer equipment and i got it at less than New BSA goldstar 650 or the New R E Bear ,Rides Beautiful and my mates has bought the X Cape 650 3 weeks ago from Tim hes a top guy we wanted to support the small guy So hes happy as well Talk Soon Eric W
That's really great to hear, I want to support Tim as well. He's a good man and deserves to do well in business. I was told that not only the engine is based on Kawasaki but also the suspension which explains the good quality. I'm only 7 miles from him in Worcester! Congratulations on your new bike 🏍 👏 🙌 😀
one more thing, if MM did what BSA did and dropped the price to 5k it would be so much more popular over here, as it is the price seems quite steep considering the facts and competition/brands it is competing with
BSA seems to be doing well at £5k and deservedly so. Its a lot of bike and character for the money at that price!
@MindfulMotorcyclist couldn't agree more, seen them at 4200 new 😱 mind blowing
MM need to do that with certain models, if they don't they stay invisible
Same here, they charge extra as if they're an Italian exotica and not just another Chinese 650 using the old kawasaki parallel twin. The V twins look interesting though.
@@radekknauer2891 nice bikes, I just think if they lowered it a bit they'd do much better
dont rush for rescue dog my sis had 2 they were both long term ill and costly .
Hopefully we will be OK 🤞
Oh no that's such a shame 😞 sorry to hear that x
Mrs Boulder got quite stroppy when I suggested keeping the Honda Fury in the conservatory...... Women...tut tut.
Hahaha I feel her pain 😅
@zedcharlie this is hilarious 😂
@@zedcharlie 🤣
Well I'm actually selling my Daytona to go down to a single bike man! 😮😮😮
Zhongneng Vehicle Group also own a lot of scooter manufacturers which is why I worry what will happen to Moto Moroni. And I struggle to see it as a scrambler. The term scrambler has become somewhat conflated. Oxford dictionary- a motorcycle for racing over rough and hilly ground. It has very British heritage. In the late 1920’s, races were set in England that were all about how fast you can reach from one point to the other. Conquering whatever terrain laid on the way, the racers had to finish it in the shortest time possible. Scrambling spawned trials competition too. I guess today just think any motorcycle designed to, (or made to), be able to scramble about on surfaces other than metalled roads.
I don't think I could own a MM sadly, not until the get a little bit more under their belt here in the UK. Thanks for the scrambler classification as well, its a bit confusing and all done in the name of style these days IMO...
@ I’m never sure when a new brand (I can’t say manufacture because so many are linked), comes to the UK if it’s genuine interest in the UK market or test launch for other purposes. A good discussion maybe for your live session. Avoids conflict of Chinese values and opens up the whole UK market problems. Cost of entry, dealer network, potential sales volumes, rider engagement………..
@@MindfulMotorcyclistactual scramblers evolved into dual sports and offroad bikes. What we have now as scramblers is purely for aestetic reasons - but it works, same as why retro styled bikes came back. They look cool.
these bikes are scrambler style , most are far to heavy like adv's for any serious off roading , you are buying looks , trail bikes are more suited at around 130 kilo , but for best results - enduro at 110 kilo , these are expensive for a reason , top spec parts which are light weight , but need careful riding on road due to very high ground clearance and knobby tyres ;;
Good advice Simon. Do you think the Triumph 400x Scrambler is any use? Or still too heavy at 180kg...
@@MindfulMotorcyclist watch my comment above , nathanthe postman ,,, a 110 kilo bike is well heavy enough when you tumble , i am not a good rider , but i have ridden with u.k.'s top enduro riders , they would laugh if you turned up on a heavy [ over120 ] bike , gentle trails yes , anything will do , but you will damage a 400 t, much more than a proper enduro or PROPER trail bike,, please watch the video ;
Enduros are crap for longer road journeys though and that’s a dry weight you’re mentioning. Honda nailed it with the CRF450L. They were/are top notch but expensive (based on the MX bike) and only available abroad now. 129kg WET weight. Also not for novices.
@@SteveInskip oh , yes , i can do about an hour on road on an enduro , ,, 300 2 stroke about 110 dry , 450 honda too much for novice , yam 450 easier , the point i am tying to get across for riders new to off road ,= is even an mx style bike is a lump when in rough stuff , i am annoyed that the bike industry is selling a dream that is a bit of a con , anything with shiny paint is mild use only ,,
Small House BIG GARAGE.
Ideal!
Dog? Newfoundland. Do it.
You'll likely end up in a ditch if you try and off-road that Moto Morini SCR on anything other than a gravel road -- fashion over function written all over it as you intimated but it's likely a well made bike with, I think, a CF Moto made engine. The MM SCR has the same seat height as the road version, which tells you a lot...
I do suspect it has the same suspension as the STR version, hence the reason I'd like to test it. I also like the CF moto 700 CLX range of bikes but I think the same might apply, heavy and fashion not function...
The SCR is a great bike, the term scrambler however is a bit rich but that applies to most so called scramblers, the only real one imo is the Fantic - the SCR rides well, looks like nothing else which is a huge +ve and so long as you accept it for what it is you will love it, an off road bike it is not though for a few obvious reasons with weight and wheelsize immediately springing to mind, there is also the engine tune that is defo more road biased - it's more capable then the BSA of yours as it has better sussers but that's about it , i dare say the BSA engine is better suited to offroad due to its power delivery/torque curves 🙂- the 18/17 wheel sizes are an oddball but they add to the design, this is a form over function so far as off road is concerned. A wicked 'street scrambler' ad gravel bike yes, off road tracks to a small degree are ok, ground clearance is ok but not great and they send it with a weird half arsed plastic guard that doesn't really offer protection where it should. Look forward to seeing you on it - IF THEY are going to send you one for winter beg them to change the tyres for something more aggressive - that is advice, leave it with ya
Agree the Fantic scramblers are probably the strongest off road (the 500 not the 700) the Rally Explorer is probably about 200mm travel front and rear. I do highly rate the BSA engine but the suspension is far to small travel, if I could upgrade it a little that would help out but I do not know where to start on that...
@@MindfulMotorcyclist there are many suspension tuners in England and Wales who could sort it for you.
It's not a DIY job as you'll need to swap the guts out
Contact ktech, they are in the Midlands, they are world renowned and if they don't have a kit they will know someone to be able to point you in the right direction bb:
Thanks, thats good advice! Cheers
Even if the bikes are ok in terms of quality, reliability, longevity and parts availability, you must open your eyes to the fact that the Chinese state are using your money to fund their military advancement and stated intention to expand their control over more and more of the planet. They are already the most advanced military force in the world.
The last part is certainly not watertight. China has a history of isolationism (with the exception of the SCS which is their backyard) they have two carriers only and a few short years training in carrier operations (unlike the US which perfected this in WW2), their subs are noisy by western standards and their stealth aircraft untested. Their strategic force is under 1000 warheads compared to the US with 6000s. No blue water navy, no rapid deployment force, no power projection, no overseas bases to speak of or allies. You might have something regarding cyber but as I say to all these comments regarding a fear of China anyone with a geopolitics or strategic mind is more afraid of Russia...
@@MindfulMotorcyclist I agree Sean, the Russians are more of a problem at the moment but it has been heartening to see what heavy weather they have made of trying to reclaim Ukraine.
Just like the USA...??...hey, everyone wants a slice of the pie.
Greenland indeed Mark!
Don’t get a dog……