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Refill 1 Lb Propane Clinders Best Way
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- Опубліковано 15 жов 2022
- This is the best method to refill 1 pound propane cylinders. The propane in large tanks is liquid on the bottom but gas on the top. If we refill an empty cylinder from the top we would fill up with gas and it won't last very long. By completely emptying the gas cylinder to be filled and freezing it making it really cold it can accept the greatest amount of liquid propane. Using an adapter to connect a 20 pound propane cylinder to the new 1 pound cylinder and turning the cylinder upside down allows it to get the maximum fill. This newly filled 1 pound cylinder will last a long time.
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Thank you for the link, and I appreciated the how-to video- loved the freezer tip!
Good explanations on doing this correctly. I would caution folks doing this to wear gloves at any time you are removing threaded stuff from an LPG tank....or risk getting burned.
Hi Tom. Thank you for your comment. You are absolutely right wearing gloves is a good idea to prevent a freeze type burn. Also easier and better to handle the frozen propane cylinder out of the freezer.
Thank you - Joe
Hey, glad to hear it. Have a good day.
You can get a hose assembly that makes the refill much easier.
Thank you for your comment. Yes I’m aware of that and if that works for you that’s great. This method is simple and Direct. Thanks - alJoe
I also purchased a hose, and shut off valve so when the 20 lb tank is upside down it is easier to fill, and less cumbersome trying to get to the valve on the 20lb tank.
Great idea would absolutely make it much easier. Very clever. Consider subscribing. Thanks. Joe.
I tried refilling my tanks.. but they didn’t fill very full.. so.. I discovered the while attempting to refill, if you pull up on the little relief valve and let it fill until the propane starts to come out, you get a complete refill…
Thank you very much for your observation and comment. Consider subscribing. Thanks Joe.
Yes your correct
Good video@@chadanderson2798
Exactly. If you go get a refill bottle at a gas station or a grocery store you'll get 3.5 gallons of propane. If you go to a refill place where they fill it untill the liquid spews out the top, you'll get 4.5-4.75 gallons AND you'll pay less.
Great instructions, I actually don't bleed off the 1lb tank, but will now, as to maximize the fill. And you should let people know how long you put the 1lb tank into the freezer. I usually do it over night, but I am sure at least an hour or so would be sufficient.
Thank you for your nice comment. I’ve been doing this enough for quite a few years. It works great. Consider subscribing. Thanks. Joe.
Thank you Dr. Joe. I am deathly afraid of overfilling the one-pound cylinders. I noticed a small valve on the tops of the 1 lb cylinders, is that a pressure relief valve ? There is also a way to fill the twenty-pound cylinders from the BIG LP tanks that people use for heat. How convenient that would be, I can't believe it would be much more complicated than your demonstration. Thanks again.
I don’t have any experience with the larger tanks in his other comments Hipp made. Please proceed at your own risk just be very careful and probably best to do it outside with protection I suppose consider subscribing. Thanks, Joe.
As a Ret 59-82 Ret . USN Para - Rigger / SERE- P.O.W. Inst / VN Solo Advisor ., I have a few questions ----What exactly can GO WRONG ? What MISTAKES be possible and would create a problem ? Of course basic - simple safety rules MUST BE followed.
Mtn Me & Aussie Molly Bluel - Deweese, tipi camp W. Colorado.
Note - I like to keep " caps on the end of O2 hoses , etc. as not to collect any dust , etc . About USS Ranger 1963 , we has a small explosion with an O2 hose , due to dust from sanding bulkheads in wirk area, settled in hoses. When used , the dust seemed to be the fuel - the 02 moving through the hose = friction and BAM , blow hoses ! No injuries , Amen. Yrs later , 1968, I was shown my first " Fire Piston " by a Negritio in a P.I. village . Very UNIQUE. Fire made by compression ! Think about it .
Thank you for taking the time to write a detailed comment. I’ve read it with great interest. The manufacturer clearly states on the cylinder not to refill them. I have been refilling these for a number of years, and I also kept them except to use them and refill them. So they are always capped. As I stated in the video, the manufacturer does not recommend refilling. It leaves me in a quandary. Thank you.
Fire by compression is how a diesel engine was created I believe.
Good video, thanks...... uthowlong does it take ti fill the 1pound cylinder, approximately
So if you file the directions, it takes less than a minute really because that’s when the gas equalizes in the 1 pound tank and the large cylinder. I’ve done this quite a few times successfully. Probably do it outside.
No need to purge the air out?
Yes, I do purge the air out just before I put it in the freezer to cool it down. That gives you the best chance to actually get a vacuum inside of that canister before you connect it to the large propane cylinder. Consider subscribing. Thanks Joe.
Really good instruction good oration , subscribed.
Thank you, James. I appreciate that. Thanks for subscribing. Take care. Joe.
I can’t find the link you said you would post? Can you share where got the adapter you are using? The two I see on Amazon are different
here is the link
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Hope to hear your REPLY / INFO / THOUGHTS. Mtn Mel - Deweese.
Great video, thank you! I am considering doing this in the event of a natural disaster, but I am wondering what would happen if I were to try and do this without the freezer step. Would it make refilling the 1 pound cylinders more dangerous? Thank you!
Thanks for your question, but no, it doesn’t make it more dangerous. It just won’t feel quite as full. The freezing creates a relative vacuum inside the cylinder and it allows it to take on more of the liquid propane. Consider subscribing. Thanks. Joe.
Thank you for your comment. Consider subscribing. Thanks. Joe.
wasn't this done 10 days ago?
Yes I did a complete redo of it because I had terrible back lighting on some videos and I didn’t show a good close-up of the left-hand threads. I’m going to delete the other video I wanted to improve it. Thanks
how long do you leave it in the freezer?
OK, you ask a very good question. No one really knows the answer to that however, you should make it such that the temperature becomes stable. Probably probably a couple hours is all you need but typically I leave it overnight. Consider subscribing. Thanks. Joe.
How much time did you lefted un the freezer ?
Hi Hiram
Thanks for your question. An hour is plenty. That’s all it takes for it to get to. It’s very cold temperature. Consider subscribing. Thanks Joe.
I have a vacuuming pump HVAC. If only there was a way to pull a vacuum on these little one pound bottles, refills would be 100 percent
You make a good argument. It would allow the bottle to be absolutely full of liquid, which would give you the greatest use. Consider subscribing. Thanks Joe.
the easiest way to fill them 100%, is to never let them get empty. If you run them empty, and leave the valve open or depress the valve air can go in. Don't let air in, and all that's in it is propane in gaseous state. when you fill from a large tank upside down, liquid flows in and the gas from the cylinder will float to the top which is the bottom of the large tank and go to the top of the large tank. But to be honest, im not sure if you would want them to be 100% full, as you want some room for expansion with temperature change, which is why they only put ~16lb in a 20lb tank. without any gas in there. a temp rise would cause very high pressures and possibly blow the can. think of it like water, a sealed container 100% fuil of water, what happens if you boil it? propane boils at -43 degrees F unless kept under pressure, which at 60F is around 100psi, but at 100F that shoots up to almost 200psi,
As shown, do all this indoors as to expedite your removal from the gene pool.
I think you’re probably right. I’m considering taking this video down.
Totally great video, thank you. Without it, things would happen sooner, I appreciate it, and enjoyed it. please leave it up. @@JosephHunstad
Remember - with sufficient fear we can avoid all risk and die from inability to move or do. With no fear we die of high risk action. We actually have to find the middle ground between absolute safety (no such thing) and unnecessary risk. As far as your comment, please explain how doing this outside is much riskier than filling a car's gas tank.
Can it explode or can't you put enough in the small bottle to cause an explosion?
Good question. The pressure inside of the small propane tank will never exceed that of the large propane tank and when they’re filled, they are the same. If you have worry or concerns, about filling the small one, please don’t do it. Manufacturers recommend that you don’t do it.
Consider subscribing. Thanks. Joe.
You are using the adjustable wrench backwards.
Hello Jerry. Thank you for your comment. You’re correct I was wrong. It needs to be reversed. My bad consider subscribing. Thanks. Joe.
Dear Dr. Joe Do not do this operation inside
Yes, you’re probably right I agree with that
@@JosephHunstad Not trying to be critical, loved your video, I just knoe some people lack basic reasonoing skills
No, your point is very well taken. Absolutely it should be done outside. Thank you.
The one pound canisters are well over built. The procedure used to refill the bottles is low risk in my opinion. The pressure in the 20lb tank as well as the 1 pound canisters is low. The tank structures can likely take thousands of pressure cycles. Look up the fatigue life of carbon steel. Everyone needs to assess their risk level and make their own choice.
James, thank you for your comment. I totally agree with everything you said, but I had to put some caution caveats in my video description because of my worry of liability. The 1 pound cylinders are indeed very heavy duty and unless there’s some sort of trauma to the 1 pound bottle itself I have, no concern about refilling these. If there was an issue with the integrity of the 1 pound bottle for sure I would just toss it. Thanks again. Consider subscribing. Joe.
It seems a strange waste to have to empty the cylinder before refilling it.
You pose an interesting question, but the reason to empty the cylinder is because by expelling the gas you’re able to add more liquid propane, which has a much greater volume when it converts to a gas during use. You get a much fuller tank with much greater longevity than if there was gas left in the cylinder. Consider subscribing. Thanks. Joe.
I just don't inderstand how you guys on yt weigh things. I weighed a full thank and it was over 40 pounds.
Hi believe thanks for your comment. Yes a large propane tank can’t wait 40 pounds. But these small tanks that I’m talking about are 1 pound for things such as portable lanterns, stoves heaters, etc. Thanks for your comment. Consider subscribing. Take care, Joe.
The big one is about 45 pounds or 47 filled. I know because i weighed mine and have a bad back
@@Believe30 hey, I hear you. It used to be easy to schlep those things around now they suddenly seem to be a lot heavier.
do u know how dangerous this is
Thank you for your question. Please note that the label on the cylinders says not to refill them so number one do this at your own risk. But many people have done this for years, including myself without issue. I would recommend doing it outside where gloves, and I and ear protection.consider subscribing. Thanks. Joe.
@@JosephHunstad lol y wud I subscribe to someone telling everyone to go blow themselves up and oh make sure you have ear protection hahahaha
DO YOU? Please explain the process by which your fear of fire or explosion will be realized. Main way I can think is if you open the valve and light a match, right? Or make a good spark. You can also get that same effect when filling your car if you are looking for dangerous filling activities with explosive materials, just check your gas station. That's why we only allow licensed professionals to fill our cars.
@@ceeweedsl they are disposable 4 a reason dumy listen to you talk about nonsense shutup
no audio
I’m so sorry you had a problem with that. I clicked on the link you sent me and immediately came up with sound. I don’t know what’s going on. Sorry about that. Thanks. Joe.
@@JosephHunstad I have no idea either. other videos are ok. I run into this every once in a while.
I'm trying it. Cross you fingers
I would recommend doing it outside. Like I said, do this at your own risk. It’s worked for me many times. Consider subscribing. Thanks. Joe.
Works without a hitch
This is absolutely STUPID to attempt to do and save a few pennies! These 1 lb bottles are NOT designed to be refilled and pressure cycled!!! This is a perfect case where people are playing with fire and danger and they don't even realize it and completely disregard the warning manufacturers have posted on these propane bottles!!!
Thank you for your comment. With respect to that, please do not attempt refilling them. These 1 pound bottles can be purchased at many locations, including Costco, Walmart, Lowe’s, etc. They are reasonably priced and are intended to be a single use item.
They can be safely refilled, however using the methods described in the video. Take care consider subscribing. Thanks, Joe.
@@JosephHunstad I appreciate your feedback Joe. People who do not understand metallurgy do not know these things can fail catastrophically in a blink of an eye and put their own personal safety at severe risk if they don't get seriously injured, lose their vision or even get killed. There are jus too many variables involved and people who watch videos on line think they've done exactly the same method but all it takes is one incident, they could lose their life! There is a video posted on UA-cam where a woman died from her burn injuries when one of these bottles exploded having been refilled!
@@LWRC I appreciate your excellent comments and concerns. I will consider removing this video. Thank you.
@@JosephHunstad 👍👍
Yes, LWRC, and yogurt contains May milk products, my bag of mixed nuts may contain nuts, , , the coffee is HOT, Don't drink the juice from the car battery. . . . . Where does it stop. Really, refilling multiple times might be problematic, but I have 15 empty cylinders, at $ 6 to $10 each, that's a lot of wasted money.