Battle of the Carmens HD

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  • Опубліковано 14 жов 2024
  • Split screen version. A side by side look at the 1988 Winter Olympic figure skating programs by the champions USA Debi Thomas and GDR EAST GERMANY's Katerina Witt, including their music and commentary by Dick Button and Peggy Fleming with Jim McKay.

КОМЕНТАРІ • 48

  • @mht4908
    @mht4908 3 роки тому +42

    My eyes were glued to Katarina the whole time. Debi and the others had the more difficult jumps, but no one drew the audience in like Katarina. It was a recital v performance

  • @JM66777
    @JM66777 Рік тому +9

    Many years have passed, still time to time watch Katarina’s Carmen. It is just unforgettable.

  • @LaliBeridze-t9t
    @LaliBeridze-t9t 6 місяців тому +5

    Katerina Witt is the best🌟🌟🌟🌟🌟🌟🌟🌟🌟🌟❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️

  • @wildthing3853
    @wildthing3853 3 роки тому +27

    Watching this like a Sevillian citizen, i just can tell you that Katharina Witt transmitted all about Carmen; Flamenco, passion and also her handwork was exelent. Debbie's presentacion was a tipical american sporty one; she didn't have any connection with her maintheme of " Carmen". Had won the right lady this!

  • @Nata34Moscow
    @Nata34Moscow 2 роки тому +14

    KATARINA hands down. The one and only.

  • @fernandoguevara8258
    @fernandoguevara8258 2 роки тому +21

    Even without Debi thomas' mistakes,
    Katerina's performance was, unlike Debi's, exciting.

  • @julesindigoblue4441
    @julesindigoblue4441 4 роки тому +50

    This is a perfect example of what’s happening in many sports. Look at the beauty of Katrina Witt.....such artistry throughout. Debbie is fantastic, but more athletic. But where’s the poetry in her movements. It’s the same for gymnastics. It’s all about how many somersaults you can do....but where’s the beauty of the Romanian gymnasts.....the artistry. The Romanians are still losing points yet are stunning to watch in motion.....we’ve lost the artistry of sport. It’s now all about who can do the dangerous.......Katrina is clearly the winner here.

    • @freddiemercury4evr
      @freddiemercury4evr 4 роки тому +1

      Poetry? You know Mikhail Baryshnikov literally helped Debi with choreo...so there was no lack of artistry. Witt posed for literally the whole first minute while Debi actually skated.

    • @RAFAAMARILLAS
      @RAFAAMARILLAS Рік тому +7

      @@freddiemercury4evr Katarina would have won without skating 😂😂😂😂 she had a stunning presence, as easy as that, yet Debbie help her by giving up. To bad the dancers effort didn’t pay off. Debbie performed Carmen, Kati was Carmen.

    • @jorgevillavicencio427
      @jorgevillavicencio427 10 місяців тому +3

      ​@@freddiemercury4evrdo you think that because the grand divo of the ballet world helped Thomas with the choreography for her Carmen would actually translate into artistry with her performance? That's a rhetorical question, btw. Debbie Thomas should have never, ever, chosen Carmen as her choice. She was an amazing athlete, but a Dorothy Dandridge she's not. To embody the role of Carmen you need beauty, allure, sexuality, all of those Katarina Witt had in spades. Had she been a ballerina instead of a skater, she would have probably been the best Carmen ever.

    • @PhilAlumb
      @PhilAlumb 4 місяці тому +2

      Debi..Gave Up after her two-footed Triple jump. She didn't "sell" the program. She was going through the motions. KATARINA skated a technically safe, unambitious Program and did alot of posing--that's Not Artistry. KATARINA Won.. because Debi FAILED.

    • @ginacleveland7995
      @ginacleveland7995 2 місяці тому

      ​@@PhilAlumb...Exactly!!

  • @ah4760
    @ah4760 10 місяців тому +6

    Debi practiced. Katarina became a legend.

  • @c.h.1066
    @c.h.1066 3 роки тому +30

    Katarina was Carmen.

  • @mariomarini3774
    @mariomarini3774 4 роки тому +19

    Katharina Witt all the life!

  • @Brissieskater1
    @Brissieskater1 2 місяці тому +1

    The side by side comparison has been very done - but my gaze is drawn to Katharina who was Carmen.

  • @belartful
    @belartful 2 роки тому +8

    Debi had harder jumps.. the slip ups cost her..but Katerina won on performance..

  • @ingridasaveja5491
    @ingridasaveja5491 10 місяців тому +4

    Katarina Witt is Karmen! The best!!!

  • @heidrunsold8543
    @heidrunsold8543 10 місяців тому +3

    Sie hat die beste Kür undsiehat die besten Noten, besonders in künstlerischen Darbietung. Und das mit Recht. Debby hätte zumindest eine passendere Frisur bebötigt. Dss ganze Outfit von Katharina und ihre Choreografie war einfach viel besser!!!! ❤❤❤

  • @PhilAlumb
    @PhilAlumb 4 місяці тому +2

    KATARINA skated a safe, unambitious Program and did alot of Pro Competiton posing. KATARINA won because...Debi cracked under pressure. Debi's program was about Amateur Technical Achievement...IF she had skated well.

  • @betogama6942
    @betogama6942 Рік тому +4

    Excelentes patinadoras

  • @renavogel7114
    @renavogel7114 3 роки тому +8

    Wieso bekommt Debby viel zu hohe Noten?!

  • @эсенгуловэркинбек
    @эсенгуловэркинбек 2 роки тому +13

    Катарина намного лучше грациозная и изящная, прыгает лучше, все исполняет в точности разница сразу бросается в глаза.

  • @MegaSoumicha
    @MegaSoumicha 5 місяців тому

    Debbie is athletic, Katharina is artistic. To me, Midori and deserved to be a legend.

  • @ivanigorpollick6690
    @ivanigorpollick6690 Місяць тому

    what a diference!

  • @renavogel7114
    @renavogel7114 3 роки тому +20

    Hier im Vergleich sieht man ganz deutlich, wie langweilig und auch fehlerhaft das Programm ist. Debby bewegt sich kaum, steht viel rum, auch technisch nicht sehr anspruchsvoll. Bei Kati hingegen stimmt alles vom Anfang bis zum Ende. Man schaut Kati sehr gerne zu. 💖Klasse Kati. Du bist die Beste, auch wenn andere vor Neid fast zuplatzen.

  • @ginacleveland7995
    @ginacleveland7995 Рік тому +2

    This was a silly comparison and I didn't like that Debi tried to play into it. Debi really should've stuck to what she does best; her carefree, sassy, athletic routine. She would've had waay more fun and probably would've won a silver medal🤷🏽‍♀️

  • @renavogel7114
    @renavogel7114 4 роки тому +3

    ❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️

  • @Brissieskater1
    @Brissieskater1 2 місяці тому

    The content of Katharina's program wasn't as difficult but it was more consistent

  • @TheLuckyDucky2010
    @TheLuckyDucky2010 5 місяців тому +1

    I like the part where he said "it's carmen time" and carmened all over the place
    I'm so sorry

  • @turu-1000
    @turu-1000 17 днів тому

    動きの質ではトーマスが圧倒的に勝っている。ビットは全体の雰囲気が華やかで良いが。

  • @renavogel7114
    @renavogel7114 День тому

    Die Amerikanerin hat absolut keine Chance. Sie ist niemals eine Carmen. Das jann nur Kati.💖

  • @freddiemercury4evr
    @freddiemercury4evr 4 роки тому +7

    One whole minute into the music..Debi was skating while Witt literally just posed. Not comparable. Also, Debi had Mikhail Baryshnikov do some of her choreo, so don't try to say she lacked artistic expression. Debi had a harder routine and just didn't have a good skate..it happens.

  • @PerAllwin1963
    @PerAllwin1963 10 місяців тому +1

    Katarina had a better line and finesse in her skating.

  • @shihlin1
    @shihlin1 6 років тому +8

    I'm sure everyone knows Debi is now unemployed living in a roach-invested trailer with a man with a history of abusing her. Can't get any more down than that.

    • @conniemaheswaren554
      @conniemaheswaren554 6 років тому +4

      shihlin1 it’s sad

    • @bernieudo4399
      @bernieudo4399 4 роки тому +3

      So please help her!

    • @bernieudo4399
      @bernieudo4399 4 роки тому +6

      Think of athletes who've hit rock bottom. Debi didn't cheat... embarrass herself...assault a competitor... disrespect the National Anthem...take steroids...traffic drugs. California needs General Practitioners--Debi needs to come back into medicine.

    • @ginacleveland7995
      @ginacleveland7995 2 місяці тому

      She's living in Atlanta, back in skating shape and back on the ice. Done a few exhibitions and a couple of skating clinics. She's doing very well

  • @wandaborowy9400
    @wandaborowy9400 2 роки тому +2

    You're American, where she now? I heard she broke, lives in trailer and no longer a doctor. America took care of her.

    • @ginacleveland7995
      @ginacleveland7995 2 місяці тому

      She lives in Atlanta now and is back on the ice. She's doing very well

  • @ОлегОлегович-ш5ж
    @ОлегОлегович-ш5ж 3 роки тому +2

    Alina Zagitova is the best Carmen on ice of all time, no options.

    • @c.h.1066
      @c.h.1066 3 роки тому +4

      Her Carmen is boring. She hasn't expression. She's just another russian ice skater. Who will ask for her in few years? The russian ladies in ice skating change so quickly.

    • @lauragallardo1593
      @lauragallardo1593 2 роки тому

      Never, the best Carmen will always be Plushenko 👑🇷🇺❤️🌹

    • @MeMe-td1ye
      @MeMe-td1ye Рік тому

      No. She lacks the emotion

  • @confidentlychar80
    @confidentlychar80 3 роки тому +3

    As much as Debi irked my soul with her flubs and lack of oomph, I liked her program better than Katerina's. I thought her edging and lines were gorgeous. Wish she had just doubled that 2nd triple, in the beginning, to keep her confidence afloat. Katerina's was dramatic and acting. although she performed her jumps beautifully I was bored. Liz Manley should have won the gold. Her program had me smiling ear to ear and cheering!

    • @achnix3167
      @achnix3167 2 роки тому +2

      Its literally not even up for question that Witts programm was better. Youre only sympathetic to Debbie because youre black too

  • @alexeydymov5602
    @alexeydymov5602 4 місяці тому

    Битва не в пользу Томас. Очень тяжёлая фигуристка