I talk about a little edge guard concept I had on the back burner. Hope you can find some use in it. My Discord ▶ / discord My Twitter ▶ / mysmashcorner
Most character actually go through 3 frames of vulnerability before starting air dodge tho (Except bayo who has bat within on frame 1-4 and starts air dodge on frame 5 I believe) and some characters like mewtwo who starts air dodge on frame 2 lol (and some character having frame 4 airdodges lollllll) But anyway most characters would be vulnerable from ledge jump for 5 frames (2 frame of not being able to air dodge -> animation starting on frame 3 and invulnerability starting on frame 6. For bayo since bat within is frame 1 that means you only have 2 frames to punish ledge jump if she air dodges lol
I dropped my controller and immediately clicked this video Edit: I checked my controller and it was fine. But now my friend knows another way to troll me with Diddy so it probably won't be fine soon.
For all the people commenting that ZeRo should pick up this tech or that he'd be better if he started doing it: ZeRo has already been doing this for over a year. I've watched him condition opponents in several high bracket matches. The only person he's used it on that it almost never works against is Leo as Marth, because he'll attack through it or get up jump quickly and grab the banana. Salem also tends to attack through it with Bayonetta. Watch a few of his high bracket matches from EVO or Frostbite, he trumps frequently in ledge guarding situations with it, it's one of the reasons people fear him so much in that position. Also to MSC, feel better soon man, try to stay strong, you can ride out these hard times. I hope your holidays are less stressful from here on
Absurdprism2 ZeRo has already been doing this for over a year. I've watched him condition opponents in several high bracket matches. The only person he's used it on that it almost never works on is Leo, because he'll attack through it or get up jump quickly and grab the banana. Salem also tends to attack through it with Bayonetta
Stavros6184 uh he said in a previous video that his roommate just left out on him and he has too put in much more time at work to pay for the rent expenses.
I really appreciate you and your videos. Your quality and information in each video is always impressive and extremely helpful. Take your time with the things you're going through friend, the community is here for you if you need us. Be strong and of good courage.
Welcome back friendo! Thank you for uploading at all, I always appreciate these well constructed, unique and helpful videos and find them interesting even if I can't apply them to my own play style, I love trying to be first to show these to my friends lol
Coming from a small little Zelda main on the Internet this may not mean much to you guys over @MySmashCorner, but I was very impressed watching this video. From my understanding its basically an Automatic ledge option covering tech & I thought this was really cool. Hopefully this will open up other Diddy players in tournament to evolve past the Fair Spamming, Banana Tossing, Down Tilt to Up Smash spamming as Diddy Players most Diddy Kong players have & do something unique & not boring. (I said most)
I know this is irrelavent and most people aren't completionist or have already aquired all of the trophies. But. I came up with this AMAZING strategy for trophy rush. Use bayonetta, jump, and neutral air with bullet arts. Easy 500+ chain plus 40-50 trophies. Her bullet arts cover the entire stage and you dont have to dodge the electric balls. Comment if you found this helpful. I havent seen a single youtube video talking about this.
I've found a seemingly true Mii Brawler footstool combo. D-Throw Footstool Watch where they DI Down Special Standard down special is a lock, so it makes things easier to cycle. Also, it gets harder and slower the higher your opponent's percent/your rage.
Here is an interesting technique about fox I believe I'm the first to find, if you go to town and city and wait till the horizontly moving platforms use fox Firefox side ways and hold the direction you going in when you land you'll have no lag and be walking straight away. I want to know more about this so can you make a video on it or reply to this comment please as I haven't found anything on smash boards about it
I totally won't ever use any of these techniques you describe in your videos. That being said, it's still fascinating to see them explained in such detail.
What you should do is expand this concept for other characters - instead how Diddy can cover multiple options with banana, you should how other characters can do it too. For example, Marth/Lucina can do a similar banana setup that works well with their kit.
Do you even have to react with the forward smash? You could just buffer it out of the dtilt and assuming they did one of the normal getup options this will still cover everything and you will go unpunished.
Hey, since you're back I was thinking that you should redo your perfect pivot video, or at least analyze who has the best perfect pivots again. I say this because there is a flaw that you had with your way of researching the distance of perfect pivots: the grass on omega Windy Hill actually nullifies traction to some extent, so you'll travel significantly less distance when you perfect pivot. I feel that you should test the distances on another stage and then make a video about it. And now that the meta has evolved with perfect pivots, you could go over some of its more advanced properties.
What's the point of the popgun canceling? There was a time where I did this a ton but I don't see what the popgun cancel can do besides the b-reverse version
"Hey guys.. *stutters* its been a loong while.." WHY DO YOU SOUND SO SAD And yes we all missed you too. We hope youre fine and that more videos will come
Hey, MSC supporters, honestly, he has been spending most of his time to produce high quality vids, however, the reality is he has to pay rent, food... and other expenses. since there is just a tiny little money from Patreon, he gonna get a job outside for living. You guys appreciate his works, and always ask for this and that, don't just take but give him actual support on patreon even $1 a month (just about 3 cents a day) !
I saw Sinji on tournament videos on UA-cam and I so happy. I play pacman and I want to improve my gameplay, but there isn't any good guide due to patches. So I thought you could collab with Sinji and make a combos and neutral video for pacman. Maybe you could add the epic shield break set up and punish by teitoku.
Hey. Wtf? Why are you making a top teir harder to deal with? I main DK and now I'll be at the ledge longer. This isn't kool man. But seriously love.to see that you're back.
So if we're struggling for content, how about a bowser jr video? He has some pretty crazy footstool combos and a surprising amount of depth to him, especially since he's slept on so much
Where have you been!! I feel out of love with smash cuz I haven't seen videos from you in a while I didn't learn anything new Edit: I mean I watch to learn new smash tech but because I haven't seen any videos I got bored and thought I learned it all
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Fun fact. You can act on frame 1 of ledge jump. You just can'tair dodge until frame 3. Sakurai big brain.
Great video as always BTW!
Which means Bayo's Bat Within triggers before you can hit her after ledge jump?
yup she can't bats within until frame 3
Meaning the air dodge starts frame 3 or the invuln does?
air dodge which means invuln on frame 4 for most characters. Bats within on frame 3
Most character actually go through 3 frames of vulnerability before starting air dodge tho (Except bayo who has bat within on frame 1-4 and starts air dodge on frame 5 I believe) and some characters like mewtwo who starts air dodge on frame 2 lol (and some character having frame 4 airdodges lollllll)
But anyway most characters would be vulnerable from ledge jump for 5 frames (2 frame of not being able to air dodge -> animation starting on frame 3 and invulnerability starting on frame 6.
For bayo since bat within is frame 1 that means you only have 2 frames to punish ledge jump if she air dodges lol
Glad to see you back :)
YOU SOUND SO SAD
Is he going through depression?
Demon Chibi Im his last video he said that his roommate left out on him so now he has to put so much time into work and paying rent by himself :(
I HOPE HE’S OK
Ben S. he will be fine
*sponsorship from DollarShaveClub intensifies*
wow if ZeRo starts doing this in tournament...
JayE yea he needs to implement this stuff thats why he actually sucks
he doesn't suck I wasn't implying that at all. I'm just saying since ZeRo's ledge trap game is so good this good make it even more potent
JayE i was being sarcastic lol. But im sure he knows this trick being the best diddy
I‘m not so sure he knows about it.
He still doesn‘t do the rising up-b recovery trick and I‘ve seen him lose multiple sets because of it
Also he‘s not known for having amazing tech skill in general, just really really solid fundamentals
I dropped my controller and immediately clicked this video
Edit: I checked my controller and it was fine. But now my friend knows another way to troll me with Diddy so it probably won't be fine soon.
Lol
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New meta: If you face a Diddy...
Forfeit the match.
Ahhh, thanks. Now I don't have to deal with that bracket demon anymore :')
For all the people commenting that ZeRo should pick up this tech or that he'd be better if he started doing it: ZeRo has already been doing this for over a year. I've watched him condition opponents in several high bracket matches. The only person he's used it on that it almost never works against is Leo as Marth, because he'll attack through it or get up jump quickly and grab the banana. Salem also tends to attack through it with Bayonetta. Watch a few of his high bracket matches from EVO or Frostbite, he trumps frequently in ledge guarding situations with it, it's one of the reasons people fear him so much in that position.
Also to MSC, feel better soon man, try to stay strong, you can ride out these hard times. I hope your holidays are less stressful from here on
A long while you say?
A LONG ASS WHILE
Nykotendo ikr
Lol nyko
Nykotendo most definitely!!!
Zero. Use this in tournament.
Also, glad to see you back MSC. Tbh, you sound kinda sad in this video, so I hope everything is ok.
Zero use this to its full potential!
Absurdprism2 ZeRo has already been doing this for over a year. I've watched him condition opponents in several high bracket matches. The only person he's used it on that it almost never works on is Leo, because he'll attack through it or get up jump quickly and grab the banana. Salem also tends to attack through it with Bayonetta
I feel worried about you man. I hope your feeling better about your roommate. happy holidays to you 😊.
ahmir register what happened with his roommate?
Stavros6184 uh he said in a previous video that his roommate just left out on him and he has too put in much more time at work to pay for the rent expenses.
I really appreciate you and your videos.
Your quality and information in each video is always impressive and extremely helpful.
Take your time with the things you're going through friend, the community is here for you if you need us. Be strong and of good courage.
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Last time I was this early Falcon was still making deep bracket runs.
RapierNeedleCrime Nice
RapierNeedleCrime youtube started after melee 😉
Nice profile pic 😄
Welcome back friendo! Thank you for uploading at all, I always appreciate these well constructed, unique and helpful videos and find them interesting even if I can't apply them to my own play style, I love trying to be first to show these to my friends lol
This definitely has some potential.
He's Alive!
Like as if Diddys needed another banana set-up :|
shaner pressley haha get rekt
4:40 I was kind of zoning out but when I heard "expand," he had my undivided attention
Coming from a small little Zelda main on the Internet this may not mean much to you guys over @MySmashCorner, but I was very impressed watching this video. From my understanding its basically an Automatic ledge option covering tech & I thought this was really cool. Hopefully this will open up other Diddy players in tournament to evolve past the Fair Spamming, Banana Tossing, Down Tilt to Up Smash spamming as Diddy Players most Diddy Kong players have & do something unique & not boring. (I said most)
I LOVE YOU MSC!!!! I WENT FROM GARBAGE TO PRETTY GOOD!! KEEP UP THE AMAZING WORK!!!!
Expand but we loved that garbage.
I Like this concept right now im turning my 3Ds to see how i pull it :)
please do more of this
So good to here from you again man
Welcome back, man!
So you've been labbing with Diddy;
I've been labing with Jiggs.
This is actually super interesting
I'd love to see someone perform this in tournament
You are one of the sweetest people in existence.
Good to have you back!
Happy your back I am a Diddy Corrin Cloud main THANK YOU FOR THIS VIDEO
This is why you gotta do the Beefy Up-B
I'll be sure to try and apply this tech to my Diddy gameplay.
HE'S BACK, BOYS! :DDDD
Weve really missed you, I hope everything is going well and see more of your videos
Cause diddy needs even more than he already has being top of the game.
Still works in ultimate baby!
Cant wait to see Zero use this in tourney
Vicctre Tamaj He has already. I couldn't tell you the set but I remember watching it, or something very similar, during an Evo event
Great video... I didn’t watch it yet but it’s probably going to be good
Burnt Pancake You mean it will
I am just reading comments as it plays and not watching it, lol
What a soothing voice
do you attend any tournaments ?? great vid btw
Omg you're alive welcome back
Yes!! You posted
This caught me by surprise.
WOW GREAT VID!! See you in 2 months.
Last time i was this early hoo-hah was the best combo in the game
He can build a wall of projectiles, and make his opponents pay for it -BSD
Dude I miss you and your vids! Is everything ok? If not, I hope all goes well for you
I know this is irrelavent and most people aren't completionist or have already aquired all of the trophies. But. I came up with this AMAZING strategy for trophy rush. Use bayonetta, jump, and neutral air with bullet arts. Easy 500+ chain plus 40-50 trophies. Her bullet arts cover the entire stage and you dont have to dodge the electric balls. Comment if you found this helpful. I havent seen a single youtube video talking about this.
I've found a seemingly true Mii Brawler footstool combo.
D-Throw
Footstool
Watch where they DI
Down Special
Standard down special is a lock, so it makes things easier to cycle.
Also, it gets harder and slower the higher your opponent's percent/your rage.
nooo dont give diddy more ways to kill me. I always lose to diddys lol
Here is an interesting technique about fox I believe I'm the first to find, if you go to town and city and wait till the horizontly moving platforms use fox Firefox side ways and hold the direction you going in when you land you'll have no lag and be walking straight away. I want to know more about this so can you make a video on it or reply to this comment please as I haven't found anything on smash boards about it
I totally won't ever use any of these techniques you describe in your videos.
That being said, it's still fascinating to see them explained in such detail.
Why don’t you use them? Do you just not use the characters, or?
I rarely play Smash Bros.
When I do, it's ultra-casually with friends.
This is amazing
Finally MSC!! A new video!!! Btw the Lucas and donkey kong videos really helped!!😎 🐑💨
MSC with the Cinematic Mod👌
Glad to see you back!
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What you should do is expand this concept for other characters - instead how Diddy can cover multiple options with banana, you should how other characters can do it too. For example, Marth/Lucina can do a similar banana setup that works well with their kit.
Hi back MSC been a while i didn't hear you from France in your video
Hope everything is ok
Gj always usefull videos
Do you even have to react with the forward smash? You could just buffer it out of the dtilt and assuming they did one of the normal getup options this will still cover everything and you will go unpunished.
Noah Watts-Fried if they roll and get hit by dtilt and you turn around to fsmash into the opposite direction, they can punish you
Benjoleo Tru, and i feel like the hitstun of landing the dtilt will be a good enough indicator not to do the fsmash.
Noah Watts-Fried Or you could option-select it and if it hits you go for a grab instead.
What’s going on mysmashcorner? We’re not mad we just wanna know if ur okay
Finally an new vid
Edit: is helpful doe
I haven't played smash in YEARS and i don't even own a smash game anymore. But i still watch a lot of your videos, they're very entertaining.
xZ lol hopefully he'll be making a dozen more when the new smash comes out!
Hey, since you're back I was thinking that you should redo your perfect pivot video, or at least analyze who has the best perfect pivots again. I say this because there is a flaw that you had with your way of researching the distance of perfect pivots: the grass on omega Windy Hill actually nullifies traction to some extent, so you'll travel significantly less distance when you perfect pivot. I feel that you should test the distances on another stage and then make a video about it. And now that the meta has evolved with perfect pivots, you could go over some of its more advanced properties.
4 weeks ago and havent seen this... Rip algorithm.
How are you going ? It's sure been a while!
can you do a marth tutorial nuetral and combos video
What's the point of the popgun canceling? There was a time where I did this a ton but I don't see what the popgun cancel can do besides the b-reverse version
I learn something new by watching this video.
Looking for a Diddy's counterpick...
Can you do a video on character matchups (in general, not for specific characters, well maybe after)?
"Hey guys.. *stutters* its been a loong while.." WHY DO YOU SOUND SO SAD And yes we all missed you too. We hope youre fine and that more videos will come
Can you make a Lucas main happy
Make a combo video for Lucas plz
he already did
This is sick but makes my life as a bowser main much more difficult
Hey :)
Why do you use a “gun cancel” instead of just Z-drop the banana?
I don’t see the point (?)
Glad to see you again on UA-cam 🙌🏻
I think this counts as a leage trap
notification GANG
At first I thought this video was on how to edgeguard Diddy effectively cause I'm all for anti diddy stuff lol. Good video otherwise!
Diddy tips and combos feat zero???
Would this be a considered an option select?
Can you for Mario combo video
Hey, MSC supporters, honestly, he has been spending most of his time to produce high quality vids, however, the reality is he has to pay rent, food... and other expenses. since there is just a tiny little money from Patreon, he gonna get a job outside for living. You guys appreciate his works, and always ask for this and that, don't just take but give him actual support on patreon even $1 a month (just about 3 cents a day) !
Music?
Okay so this video is sponsored by dollar shave club but theres no link to anything? No 10% off code or anything?
Can you please make a ZSS combo video????
I saw Sinji on tournament videos on UA-cam and I so happy. I play pacman and I want to improve my gameplay, but there isn't any good guide due to patches. So I thought you could collab with Sinji and make a combos and neutral video for pacman. Maybe you could add the epic shield break set up and punish by teitoku.
I love the bgm. Melee Battlefield always reminds me of 100-man melee to unlock Falco
I MISSSSSSSSSS YA VIDS
Hey. Wtf? Why are you making a top teir harder to deal with? I main DK and now I'll be at the ledge longer. This isn't kool man.
But seriously love.to see that you're back.
Is this better than what zero does?
Leave duck hunt alone. Holy shit my poor baby
It's been a while
MSC plz do a video about Luigi Combos and Neutral ft. Elegant or at least a video covering the Poke combo, Luigi's true 0 to death
So if we're struggling for content, how about a bowser jr video? He has some pretty crazy footstool combos and a surprising amount of depth to him, especially since he's slept on so much
What have you done
Where have you been!! I feel out of love with smash cuz I haven't seen videos from you in a while I didn't learn anything new
Edit: I mean I watch to learn new smash tech but because I haven't seen any videos I got bored and thought I learned it all
The Diddy’s need no further help. Why did you do this?
ooo option selects
Yo! You good? Or did smash get boring for you? Please comeback! You”re one of the greatest smash bros players ever! Where are you? :(
New meta: Use fade ins for your voice cuts.
When the other video coming out next video bro?