Let Me Tell You About... Doomboxes
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- Опубліковано 10 лют 2025
- This week Aleks and Tad talk about loot boxes and their sudden presence in both multiplayer and singleplayer games. We go from the alleged first instance of a lootbox system in a videogame up to the current EA Battlefront 2 controversy. Are loot boxes always terrible? Is there a proper way to use them or will they always be a bad idea?
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I believe the reason they're called whales, is that they are making an analogy of hooking a fish to the amount of money spent. Catch a fish, you get enough meat (money) to feed one person; catch a whale, and you can feed the entire village.
Makes a lot of sense now
thanks baby cakes
Fuck yeah, a new LMTYA. This and Revival are the only two podcasts I listen to anymore since they're fucking awesome all the time. Keep it up dudes.
"Looks like adventure quest" as I play adventure quest while listening to this
Binging your podcasts today. I love you guys!
Love you too 😘
When you spend more money on a free to play game than an actual game.
every FGO player in a nutshell
Jokes on you, Aleks, I'm too cheap to pay money on FGO.
When the female whale lactates the thickness of the whales milk can vary greatly. ... A few species of whale (such as the blue whale) may drink in excess of 150 gallons of milk per day and can easily gain 100 pounds or more each day in its first few months of birth primarily from drinking its mother's milk.
I actually had a Gilgamesh once. Then my phone got a virus and I didn't backup my save.
Thanks for my podcast fuel while I chop that meat across old world blues
Don´t starve together has a good system where you cannot purchase boxes, only find them, but you can put skins up on the market.
An online digital card game which you can trade, auction, etc. your cards does exist actually, its called Hex Shards of Fate. Obscure game that hasn't gotten the popularity it needs but its pretty good, might be worth looking into.
They started calling them wales because wales are big and those players are big spenders so the name stuck first with the others coming later when the scrotum hairs of corporate executives started to divide, analyze, and bureaucratize the system of turning players into payers(google that phrase, lose every last drop of hope for humanity as I have, become the nihilistic angsty salt baron that I have become)
43:42
I think they're called whales because of Moby Dick. Those people waste so much time and resources (like the guy chasing the white whale in moby dick) chasing after one thing (the white whale), that if they get, they may feel empty afterwards. At least, that's what I thought.
In the main picture throughout this video. Look at Tads hand and then Aleks face...
TF2's loot boxes aren't good. They're just the least offensive.
yeah that's a better way to put it
one refined metal is literally fucking pennies right now Tad
rip the 2.55 keys
>current year
>playing western loot boxes instead of japanese gaacha
fucking casuals.
I still can't believe people will defend loot boxes. Like seriously if you bought 100 loot boxes you still wouldn't get everything in overwatch and games like it its statically impossible thanks to dups. Loot boxes are shit If I buy a game and play one character I should just be able to get the costumes and emotes I want for performing good with that character and unlocking there extra shit from progression and shit. And if your going to make me pay for costumes at least do what fighting games or league does and have it in a pack so I know what I'm buying.
BuT gAmEs ArE sO eXpEnSiVe To MaKe!!1!
I use to play OW a lot (much to my disgust) and I tell you that you never not find at least one person on the forums crying about how they spent money on so many lootboxes because they wanted a specific skin for their garbage waifu. It befuddles me that most of the people who defend lootboxes are the whales these companies fuck over the hardest with these worthless drop rates and useless items. I will never understand payed virtual cosmetics.
A friend of mine defends the overwatch lootboxes as the pay for free content and tournament prizes. I dont understand these reasonings either.
Thank God they left all the lootbox shit out of Monster Hunter.
i feel another video game crash coming along. It may not be soon but its coming, and microtransactions and lootboxes will be too blame
I wish tf2 went back to the old version of crates. I never got to play during the glory days :(
How did you check your money spent on the mann co store?
You're wrong about the origin of lootboxes...
There was a card system in one of the earlier maddens that you could buy for in game achievements(earned through playing games) and it was not fast or easy. it gave updates to your player made character. (Classic Jerseys, more stats...)
The first one was in Madden 2002, and it carried through til about 2009
Be fun to see a Matt Hoss episode.
Excellent bomb at the end Tad
I just buy what I want from marketplace.tf and do away with all the RNG.
That's probably why people think TF2 is the least-bad lootbox system
All CSGO loot boxes are almost guaranteed dupes or something worth $.03
Stout Shako for 2 Ref!
as an off and on Overwatch player my experience has been slim but the idea of them irritates me. The system in Overwatch is stupid yet people still buy into as I guess that's what they want. Instead of new content here's some skins...MORE SKINS.
Last I checked the dumpster fire that is Champions Online still has keys and crates have a chance of dropping.
I’ve easily spent over $400 on love live in the last 2 years since I’ve been playing. maybe more. I’m not proud of it, but I’ve at least spent way less now that the in game currency is easier to come by. I’m less of a whale now and more of a dolphin. it’s all cancer though.
Woah momma
To answer your question tad, yes you can milk a whale.
Lootboxes are the cancer killing video games. If you buy lootboxes you are also cancer. Also MapleStory and Grand Chase both came out in 2003 and had gachapon systems, not sure if you want to count that as lootboxes though they're technically the same thing.
Edit: FGO Guaranteed 4* nothing but Kirei Craft Essence and Black Keys
Also with the amount of money you spend on a shitty cellphone game for a waifu you could just buy a figure or statue of them. LOL
"Killing video games"
Bold statement tbh. Here I thought that bad games were killing the industry, or people that can't allow themselves to play another game in teh series because it's not THIS one were somewhat killing it.
To be honest it's the kind of people who buy lootbox that are killing video games and lootboxes are just a symptom of that. Surface level players that don't really care about video games are. The kind of people who play them because it's popular or "my bros are playing it" kind of thing. It leads to shit like formulaic and bland design enforced by investor focus groups.
fucking fate go
I got a random Francis drake and now i know i will never get the characters i actually want, the 1% is kinda ridiculous.
Skola teal are my favorite elvus
Thay lowered the doop rates in overwatch because the community wanted it but i see how have next to no doops could suck.
Did anyone else cringe every time he mispronounced Scoia'tael?
JacobxDeathclaw no bc I'm not gay
Dark Link Weak sauce!
"Nexon level garbage" LOL
I like how Destiny 2 handles them personally.
I've never felt pressure to buy Silver to get bright engrams. Just playing the game when your character hits level 20 earns you them, much faster too than the lootboxes you got from levelling your player rank in Overwatch.
And then Destiny 2 becomes the biggest dumpster fire ever
You should do a LMTYA Classic Wow servers
Hey fellow fate fan here to tell yall that rateup is in fact a lie and dont fall for their tricks
These fucking things ruined Overwatch for me. Seriously, The game is fun but TF2 was genuinely more rewarding for all the shwack you could get from it, changing your arsenal and making your own unique Scout/Soldier/Etc. Overwatch Just loads up a ton of Preset bullshit. On top of that you don't get a reliable flow of coins or anything. I do not enjoy the game anymore and honestly it was just because I played it for a while... that is a massive fuck up.
Xenoblade chronicles 2 has lootboxes
I think Hearthstone is the closest i played.
Never sepnd any money on packs, only on the adventures back whne they were a thing, now you can't use any cards out of them in standard and i realised ~700g isn't even that much so why did i spend 25€...
After the first month i never had a point were i couldn't afford the new meta deck i wanted to play.
Pretty glad playing arena is the most fun thing and also the best way to make money in the game.
The adventures really were the most bullshit thing for starters and they were taken out so if someone complaints about Hearthstone being p2w chances are pretty high they just didn't play much, suck at arena and still want multiple meta decks at any time.
Do vote with your wallet. Governments are not the only solution.
I am annoyed with this hopelessness I keep seeing.
Yeah your vote doesn't really matter anymore, streamer #4025 is going to nullify it with his 2000 USD loot box purchase so he can open them on stream. :^)
1ppo If possible, tell him not to do that, but the most likely, do not watch him. They do it for views, so if they don't get views, then they will learn not to do that.
I rather the government just make a little law. That might actually work as opposed to the libertarian version of prayer
Shadow of war was not pay to win. The game was easy af. And I played that shit on the hardest difficult.
This shit has been in the EA sports games for a while and it's stupid.
>actually playing EA sports
We the FIFA players wanted to warn you, but you wouldn't listen :v
Nigga, adventure quest was the SHIT.
Fate/Grand Order < Fire Emblem Heroes
I really hope this is a fad.
yeah they'll move onto something worse in a few years
In Cod ww2 you cant buy loot boxes
Hey how come TotalBiscuit doesn't make videos anymore?
I know why, I just wanted to make you uncomfortable.
Fate/Grand Order is shit, Granblue Fantasy is much better
An Alecks episode never fails to make me turn off the video want listen to something else