Fury wouldn't have survived in today's racing. He'd be forever having drive thru's or stop and go penalties. But, back then it was accepted practice and that lived through until at least the late 90s.
The crash in the first turn was caused by a fast starting Glenn Seton in the Nissan who basically just dive bombed the field under brakes like it was a future computer game and got it all wrong. Back then they forgave you for being young and dumb.
Brock and Allan Moffat were racing in the 500 KM FIATCC (ETCC) race at Hockenheim on the same weekend. They finished 5th and Allan Grice in his Commodore, who's race ended while leading when he came upon a spinning VW Golf and crunched the front of the car (he was having a great scrap with the Volvo's of Johnny Cecotto and Ulf Grandberg at the time), set the touring car lap record for the circuit which would not be broken until 2000, the year before it became the first of the Tilkedrome's.
Les Small (Gricey's team manager at Roadways) tells an interesting story about that Hockenheim race. Before the weekend he claimed that he had managed to get hold of some of the same fuel that the TWR Rovers raced on. Now in the FIATCC, all cars had to use standard pump fuel supplied at the circuit, but Small claimed that this special racing fuel gave the 420 hp Commodore another 20 hp and that on the long first straight the car was speed trapped at over 280, faster than the Group C Commodore's had gone at Bathurst. Apparently with the limited aero in 1986, that spooked Grice a bit as the car got a bit light at the front and with the straight curving slightly before the chicane it made it a bit hard to steer. The other funny thing about the fuel was that Small claimed it was from Shell, yet TWR were sponsored by Bastos (Texaco). Special (but illegal) racing fuel would go a long way to explaining how a 340 hp, 3.5 litre V8 Rover could hold off or pass a 420 hp, 5.0 litre V8 Commodore on the straights at Monza and Hockenheim.
@@Dave.S.TT600 I hope I'm still alive here too lol And yes Allan Grice was an awesome driver. A driver in Australia well before his time who was well suited to the more aggressive world of European racing, not to mention NASCAR.
So the hair dryers beat the boat anchors
Geroge Fury was always punting people off. Harvey/Parsons in 1984 at Bathurst. Drive through these days.
Fury wouldn't have survived in today's racing. He'd be forever having drive thru's or stop and go penalties.
But, back then it was accepted practice and that lived through until at least the late 90s.
The crash in the first turn was caused by a fast starting Glenn Seton in the Nissan who basically just dive bombed the field under brakes like it was a future computer game and got it all wrong. Back then they forgave you for being young and dumb.
Maybe a slight touch were all the commentators blind in those days LOL
Wow - apparently you could just rallycross people off the road in 1986.
Back then yes you could. Drivers could literally punt someone off the road and there would be zero penalty from the officials.
Thanks :) Did you tape this race?
Any idea why Brock wasnt driving??
Brock and Allan Moffat were racing in the 500 KM FIATCC (ETCC) race at Hockenheim on the same weekend. They finished 5th and Allan Grice in his Commodore, who's race ended while leading when he came upon a spinning VW Golf and crunched the front of the car (he was having a great scrap with the Volvo's of Johnny Cecotto and Ulf Grandberg at the time), set the touring car lap record for the circuit which would not be broken until 2000, the year before it became the first of the Tilkedrome's.
Les Small (Gricey's team manager at Roadways) tells an interesting story about that Hockenheim race. Before the weekend he claimed that he had managed to get hold of some of the same fuel that the TWR Rovers raced on. Now in the FIATCC, all cars had to use standard pump fuel supplied at the circuit, but Small claimed that this special racing fuel gave the 420 hp Commodore another 20 hp and that on the long first straight the car was speed trapped at over 280, faster than the Group C Commodore's had gone at Bathurst. Apparently with the limited aero in 1986, that spooked Grice a bit as the car got a bit light at the front and with the straight curving slightly before the chicane it made it a bit hard to steer. The other funny thing about the fuel was that Small claimed it was from Shell, yet TWR were sponsored by Bastos (Texaco).
Special (but illegal) racing fuel would go a long way to explaining how a 340 hp, 3.5 litre V8 Rover could hold off or pass a 420 hp, 5.0 litre V8 Commodore on the straights at Monza and Hockenheim.
@@Holden308 Gricey is awesome, a great Bathurst Winner too. Thanks for that info 308! Hope you're still alive haha
@@Dave.S.TT600 I hope I'm still alive here too lol
And yes Allan Grice was an awesome driver. A driver in Australia well before his time who was well suited to the more aggressive world of European racing, not to mention NASCAR.
@@Holden308 Thanks for the reply. Good point re Grice.
George Fury didn't stand on ceremony with Neal Lowe. In today's world he'd get a drive through for that.
rise of the turbos after the v8 gets pushed off the track
Fantastic variety in these early days before it become a Sierra cup!
The V8 was to slow...should have got out the way😁
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Wow you don’t hear cheers 🍻 like that anymore most people don’t want to upset the next person to them ffs let it rip like 86!
Volvos would have the water injection going....
And 4 years later...the Dinosaur v8s never had a chance
I cant watch 05 with out Peter Brock behind the wheel. 2024 Its same at the historic racing Amateurs driving ex Bathurst cars.
Much better to watch todays nonsense.
cheated, how turbo