What's the difference between Pozidriv and Philips Screwdrivers?

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  • Опубліковано 16 вер 2024
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    Pozidriv vs. Phillips
    For our friends who like to read, here's a quick overview of the difference between Pozidriv and Phillips. Phillips screw heads are designed so that the Phillips screwdriver will cam-out (slip) if too much torque (power) is applied. Pozidriv screws are designed to prevent cam-out.
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КОМЕНТАРІ • 136

  • @homersimpson6074
    @homersimpson6074 7 місяців тому +13

    Perfect! Great explanation. And in 2.5 mins without all other nonsense. Thanks!

  • @paulwhealy5243
    @paulwhealy5243 3 роки тому +25

    The other key reason i tell my guys to never use a Philips driver when it’s a Pozidrive screw is the actual shape of the four fins or wings.
    On a Philips driver tip - and in the Philips screw slots - the wings taper down to a point so when you turn a tight Philips screw, the driver immediately wants to slide up the slope and then jump to the next groove - ruins the screw head - and after a while the Philips tip will be worn and rounded.
    Look again at the Pozidrive -each wing is the same thickness right to the bottom - and the screw wing slots are parallel also - a perfect fit. No matter how hard you turn it, the tip stays tight to the bottom of the screw slot. Much stronger than Philips.

    • @sedgetool
      @sedgetool  3 роки тому +3

      Paul ... Thanks ....Great info !!!!!!!

  • @debonweb
    @debonweb 10 місяців тому +3

    Thanks for this ... I already knew about the difference after researching online some years ago as to why certain screws in the house I bought here in the UK were completely stripped and I had to buy screw extractors to be able to remove them! I just wanted to remind myself and came across your video ... very helpful and useful. I wish to goodness that some of the tradesmen who have come to do jobs for me knew about it too! Most of them seem to think that they're all Philips and I've now got even more stripped screws that I will need to tackle at some point. So frustrating. One guy came to quote for a job for boarding the loft and I offered him a screwdriver to remove the existing loft hatch to save him going back to his van. When I asked whether the screws were Philips or Pozidrive he said they're all the same. When I told him they aren't all the same he wasn't at all happy and obviously thought that me as a female wouldn't have a clue what I was talking about. He had a real face on him because I was trying to tell him something he should have known already. Needless to say I got someone else to do the job! Perhaps in future that will be my test of whether to hire somebody or not ...... the Philips v Pozi question ! :) :)

    • @sedgetool
      @sedgetool  10 місяців тому +1

      I can't tell how many folks , Pro or Hobbyist, that I have shown tis tip too and they had no clue there was a difference....

    • @debonweb
      @debonweb 10 місяців тому +1

      @@sedgetool I know !!! Crazy isn't it? lololol

  • @ralphiewigs2208
    @ralphiewigs2208 2 роки тому +5

    Now that I'm almost done with my kitchen remodel, I find this out. I knew something wasn't right!

    • @sedgetool
      @sedgetool  2 роки тому

      Whoops... thanks for watching !!

    • @ralphiewigs2208
      @ralphiewigs2208 2 роки тому

      @@sedgetool Thanks for all your useful, concise information. I still have some adjusting to do, and future projects to come. I'm picking up a pozidriv today.

    • @SE45CX
      @SE45CX 5 місяців тому

      whatever you do there are always more opportunities to spend money and effort into.

  • @TheNailSpecialist
    @TheNailSpecialist 2 роки тому +3

    Learned something today! I saw a review on a product mentioning they swapped the screws out for Pozi screws on a product so I went to investigate what the difference is and found your video very helpful. Now I know why the Phillips screwdriver slips in some screws and causes blunting of the head.
    Off to buy the right screwdrivers.

    • @sedgetool
      @sedgetool  2 роки тому +1

      cool !!! glad it helped !!!

  • @patrikhafstrom8954
    @patrikhafstrom8954 2 роки тому +5

    Nice explanation!
    IKEA brought Pozidrive to the most corners of the world 😀 Here in Sweden I would not by any screws that isn’t Pozidrive or Torx. Torx is the best and gets more and more common here. Phillips is outdated here but for some unknown reasons stil used in drywall screws and som special screws but that will change.
    Greatings from Sweden 🇸🇪

    • @sedgetool
      @sedgetool  2 роки тому +2

      Thanks Patrik ..... Great Info !!

    • @tonibaloni12
      @tonibaloni12 2 роки тому

      Torx is the worst for me, i need something that holds the screw straight so i can screw stuff with one hand, torx doesn't do that for me it always wobbles the screw, tried Bosch, Dewalt, Wera and a random cheap brand, always loose fit.

    • @rkhrd3211
      @rkhrd3211 2 роки тому +5

      @@tonibaloni12 Sounds more like you're using a wrong size bit.

  • @buildingnfixing7348
    @buildingnfixing7348 2 роки тому +2

    Thank you this was a really good insight. My hinges thank you as well.

    • @sedgetool
      @sedgetool  2 роки тому +1

      Glad it was helpful!

  • @pmelchman
    @pmelchman 3 роки тому +4

    keep them coming guys. Great video. Big D is going to Sedge School

  • @wittworks
    @wittworks 6 місяців тому

    thanks for clearing this up

  • @alfursan291
    @alfursan291 3 роки тому +1

    thanks from Malaysia very clear info

  • @danielcarroll3358
    @danielcarroll3358 3 роки тому +12

    The Phillips was designed to cam out if excess torque was applied. Nowadays you can set the torque on your driver and have no problem with Pozidriv screws. The Phillips profile of driver to screw is a ramp, while the Pozidriv is two surfaces at 90 degrees to the force. Having Sheetrock screws Phillips prevents the screws shearing off or going right through the plasterboard if driven with a driver with no torque control. Horses for courses as the British say.

    • @sedgetool
      @sedgetool  3 роки тому +1

      Thanks for sharing .............

    • @amitghosh6966
      @amitghosh6966 Рік тому

      I think Philips screws are better to use in Electronics like computers, televisions etc where we don't have to struggle to turn the screws but in case of furnitures like doors, windows etc it becomes difficult to turn them as they sometimes get jammed inside wood or plywood

    • @albertovaca6505
      @albertovaca6505 11 місяців тому

      I had to buy a phillips scrudriver, I need one. You know prices?

  • @gavinmason
    @gavinmason Рік тому +10

    Philips screws are used throughout manufacturing, from watches to washing machines and from computers to cars. Pozidriv screws are used exclusively in the construction trade where high torque is required.

    • @sedgetool
      @sedgetool  Рік тому +1

      cool

    • @MrFiction80
      @MrFiction80 3 місяці тому +3

      What?! No, absolutely not! You find pozidriv in all sorts of machines. Dishwashers, refrigerators, boilers etc. Your comment is just not correct. At all!

  • @boyibolomi2086
    @boyibolomi2086 9 місяців тому +1

    Very clear explanation

    • @sedgetool
      @sedgetool  9 місяців тому

      Glad you liked it

  • @billymanilli
    @billymanilli 4 місяці тому

    Great explanation! Time to show my son now!

    • @sedgetool
      @sedgetool  4 місяці тому

      Awesome..Thanks !!!

  • @user-lv2wu1uk5p
    @user-lv2wu1uk5p Рік тому

    Thank you guys 👏💪🔧🔩

  • @MikeStillUK
    @MikeStillUK 7 місяців тому

    Lovely, thanks lads

  • @NipponKiwi
    @NipponKiwi 3 місяці тому

    Thanks Mr Sedgetoo! I Learnt Heaps

  • @fotopdo
    @fotopdo 3 роки тому +20

    Exactly why philips screws are banned from my shop!

  • @revg2608
    @revg2608 2 роки тому +1

    Now I understand-thanks that was driving me crazy when you say pozidrive I thought you made that up

  • @rubengotz9758
    @rubengotz9758 Місяць тому

    Great explanation. Thank you 🙏

  • @thegingeredone
    @thegingeredone 2 роки тому +2

    Philips screws are mainly used in fastening metal panels on machines and where metal to metal fastenings are used. I assume that this is because of the low amount of torque possible. With metal, there is no give and so over tightening the screw with just either strip the thread, depending on the hardness of the metal, or sheer off the head of the screws. For example, if you put too much torque into a screw going into brass, the thread will just strip.
    So - Philips in a metalworking environment, Pozi in a woodworking environment.

    • @sedgetool
      @sedgetool  2 роки тому +2

      Thanks for the info Michael !!!

  • @MH3GL
    @MH3GL 2 місяці тому

    Thanks to that nice Boston accent, i felt like i was watching an wpisode of This Old House 😌

    • @sedgetool
      @sedgetool  2 місяці тому

      why thank you......

  • @user-jt4bv9xt1p
    @user-jt4bv9xt1p 3 місяці тому

    Thanks for this. I have ruined many a screw. Now I know why.

  • @chardelraconner7324
    @chardelraconner7324 Рік тому +1

    it works

  • @Gillysaurxx
    @Gillysaurxx 3 роки тому +2

    I watched this whole video twice because the first time i was thinking about that lead holder the time! Whats the name of it!

  • @albertovaca6505
    @albertovaca6505 11 місяців тому

    On this days we have to go with the flow or actual current of new and good things to accoplish more proyects in the residence one live.

  • @user-uh5qk5ku8i
    @user-uh5qk5ku8i 4 місяці тому

    Noting beats würth assy screws n bits❤

    • @sedgetool
      @sedgetool  4 місяці тому +1

      I used them for many years in my cabinet shop...I love them !!

  • @chardelraconner7324
    @chardelraconner7324 Рік тому +1

    orientation meaning togetherness in effort of to come ; phelps isn't traveling d'tonneau is in need of a follicle utensil adjustment tool american made

  • @DailyElectrician
    @DailyElectrician 2 роки тому

    great video thanks

    • @sedgetool
      @sedgetool  2 роки тому +1

      Glad you enjoyed it !!!!

  • @romeomeoful
    @romeomeoful Рік тому

    Amazing vid guys thank you

  • @leatherbydragonfly
    @leatherbydragonfly 3 роки тому

    Nice video and informative.

    • @sedgetool
      @sedgetool  3 роки тому

      Thanks !!!!!!!!!!!! Hope you are doing well !!

  • @ogotuwaobuto5366
    @ogotuwaobuto5366 3 роки тому

    Thank you.

  • @oregondork
    @oregondork 3 роки тому

    Great video yall

    • @sedgetool
      @sedgetool  3 роки тому

      Thank you very much !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • @thomasmFR
    @thomasmFR 2 роки тому

    Thanks for the video. I'm a little confused by the Pozidriv. I have two screws M4 and M5, both pozidriv. Only my PZ2 screwdriver works ( PZ1 too loose and PZ3 too big to fit in ).
    But, the pozi edges of my screwdriver ( Stanley brand ) are not touching the pozi cuts of the screws. There is like a fade off before the tip. So what's the point here? ( vs normal philips ) Why this fade off if the edges are meant to bite those cuts ?

    • @sedgetool
      @sedgetool  2 роки тому

      i have rarely encountered a PZ1 or PZ3 screw... I use a PZ2 all the time with no problems of seating or torqueing

  • @amitghosh6966
    @amitghosh6966 Рік тому

    What's the philips #1,2 & 3 tip Screwdrivers for? Where they're used & how to identify correct screws for them?

    • @sedgetool
      @sedgetool  Рік тому +1

      i have often wondered about the applications... #1 - #3 is for small to larger screw length and root of the screw

    • @edmundooliver7584
      @edmundooliver7584 7 місяців тому +1

      use it for wood work

  • @dharmendratatasky4121
    @dharmendratatasky4121 3 роки тому +1

    👌👍

  • @Mtaalas
    @Mtaalas 10 місяців тому

    Pozidirv gives you more trogue before camming out. Thus they're used a lot in cabinet and window hardware. But people just don't understand that there's no "cross head" screw and screwdriver... there are at least three different and incompatible cross shaped standards: Phillips, Pozidriv an JIS.

  • @macsan1234
    @macsan1234 2 роки тому

    Hi
    Wish i could send a picture. I have a inch circular screw at the base of my modular bed side plank which can be opened with an allen key and which connects to a screw which goes into wood inserts in my bed base planks.
    I tried the allen key and turned it this way and that. It turns and so does the screw but how do i remove both and replace

    • @sedgetool
      @sedgetool  2 роки тому

      sounds like your threaded insert is stripped out and needs to be reset with possibly some epoxy

    • @macsan1234
      @macsan1234 2 роки тому

      @@sedgetool hi. The threaded insert is fine . My malm bed screw with an arrow is connected to the bolt and im not able to detach it. It turns left and right . Isnt the bolt supposed to detach when the screw is turned?

    • @macsan1234
      @macsan1234 2 роки тому

      @@sedgetool anywhere i can send a picture of what im talking about? I dont know much about bolts and screws. Just trying to DIY

  • @kd5808
    @kd5808 2 роки тому

    Which model of the Blum (inserta?) is that? Checked the catalog and it's quite a few choices...

  • @mikaeremichellepeck1169
    @mikaeremichellepeck1169 5 місяців тому

    Now I know. All these years I've been wrecking screws lol.

  • @tommyharris5817
    @tommyharris5817 3 роки тому

    Like the closeup, what camera are you using?

    • @sedgetool
      @sedgetool  3 роки тому

      4K Panasonic HC-VX870 :)

    • @tommyharris5817
      @tommyharris5817 3 роки тому

      @@sedgetool Thanks, I thought it was an iPhone

  • @pauliebots
    @pauliebots Рік тому

    Dudes forget about the screws, what was that pencil you used? Where can I get one?

  • @EireFirst2024
    @EireFirst2024 2 роки тому

    Dunno why this is in my recommended, I'm a chippy 20 odd years, maybe UA-cam says I'm rusty 😂😂😂✌️

  • @Don-Coyote-De-Transylvania
    @Don-Coyote-De-Transylvania 2 роки тому

    What is that pencil you have? 0:25

  • @hethaerto1
    @hethaerto1 2 роки тому

    Why is it I can get so much more torque on a phillips screw with a Pozidrive bit than a phillips bit?

    • @sedgetool
      @sedgetool  2 роки тому

      there are 4 extra facet on the posi drive to give more surface area

  • @cottonbrad
    @cottonbrad 4 місяці тому

    Get Robertson. The best screw in the world, hands down. It's Canadian.

  • @MikeyDonna
    @MikeyDonna 2 роки тому +1

    You re correct as to which are the best for your application, but you Cheated with your demo to make the difference more dramatic ! You used the correct size for the pozy and a Phillips was way to small . I’ve noticed you do similar things when demonstrating Festool tools. Its not that you’re lying but it’s an exaggeration of the ease or speed things can be done.

  • @DejectedCat
    @DejectedCat 4 місяці тому

    So why not just use Pozidrive for everything? Doesn't seem to have a down side.

  • @markarita3
    @markarita3 3 роки тому

    Extra maaks for European hadwaya. Got it.

  • @life_score
    @life_score 3 місяці тому

    Had no idea about Pozi. Why the heck do they exist and so similar to Phillips and why is it not common knowledge???

  • @heptichd9393
    @heptichd9393 2 роки тому

    Will a pozi work with a philips screw?

    • @sedgetool
      @sedgetool  2 роки тому

      not really ..doesn't seat well ..cams out

  • @kusinanimadamrita8778
    @kusinanimadamrita8778 3 роки тому

    Full pack po regalo ko sa iyo

  • @CandyHam
    @CandyHam 2 роки тому

    is this guy *selling* PZ?

    • @sedgetool
      @sedgetool  2 роки тому

      nope ...just explaining !!!!

  • @jandudl74
    @jandudl74 5 місяців тому +2

    Both are the worst inventions there are! TORX screws are much better.

  • @gavinmason
    @gavinmason 3 місяці тому

    No, those are Phillips.

  • @matchpoint14
    @matchpoint14 3 місяці тому

    Whoever went out and invented another screw when one was not even needed has caused millions in damage and millions of people to have inconveniences. One of the worse inventions of mankind alongside traction control on my Chevy Colorado

  • @lvgio
    @lvgio 3 роки тому

    wu tang!

  • @Valet2
    @Valet2 Рік тому

    okay...
    But why is there PZ in the first place? That's one of the most hateful things in my life. I simply see no advantage having this over the simple and reliable PH!

    • @sedgetool
      @sedgetool  Рік тому

      its seems to me it gives better torque and less slippage / cam out